The year is 2018. You're the captain of an American militia staging an uprising against the government. You're in a deserted urban environment in downtown Austin Texas. There is a tank patrolling the street, it's alone but fully manned. You're going to launch a raid on it. Your mission is to disable, destroy, or capture it taking minimal casualties.
You only have the munitions that you've scavenged from the local gun store and the supplies you've found in the local homes and businesses. What tactics/weapons would you use to surround and neutralize it?
What beats a tank? Could you jam the barrel? Fog up it's sensors? Clog up the exhaust ports? In Saving Private Ryan they constructed a sticky grenade and blew it's treads off. Would this really be effective?
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>>28543456
Urban environment, you say?
-Smoke it
-Spray paint its optics
-Clog all vents
ENJOY, FORTUNATO!
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>>28543456
2 tanks
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>>28543456
Light it on fire, that'd be annoying.
Try making an EFPIED.
The best way to destroy enemy tanks in that scenario is sabotage or denial of fuel to where they are coming from. Or getting the crew to defect.
Fighting abrams with nothing to feasibly knock them out is suicide and would be a waste of time and effort.
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New Russian SU-35 order 2016-01-14 17:23:32 Post No.28543203
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>MOSCOW — The Russian air force is expanding its Sukhoi-35S fleet with a 100 billion rubles ($1.4 billion) order for 50 more of the twin-engine fighters, according to a Russian industry ...
http://m.aviationweek.com/defense/russia-places-new-order-50-su-35s-fighters?NL=AW-05&Issue=AW-05_20160114_AW-05_807&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_7_1&utm_rid=CPEN1000001478899&utm_campaign=4697&utm_medium=email&elq2=30dd13b492f94fb29cbbfc1d3acb283b
The long awaited order is finally here.
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>>28543203
PAK-FA is BTFO?
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>PESA radar
already outdated
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>$28m a pop
Why are other countries not buying any?
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IT: Why you don't buy century shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCBNPLBWeJ4
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>>28543077
That still looks like the least fun gun to shoot, malfunctions aside..
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>wannabe operator hat
>wannabe operator shades
>wannabe operator gloves
>wannabe operator hearpro
>wannabe operator shirt
>nutnfancy titlecard
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>>28544142
How dumb are you?
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guns are banned in my country
it is hard to build my owns weapons?
can i make firearms with airsoft guns?
doesn't matter if it's expensive
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>>28542483
if you want firearms that badly, move to a not shit country
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Building simple firearms is pretty easy, and just about anyone can learn how to do it. You can build a "Luty" SMG if you have some basic tools and are capable of following simple instructions. There are some components which require more specialized tools and real skill (such as rifled barrels), and you need to acquire a good supply of ammunition for your gun.
Anyone who is smarter than average moron can build a "four-winds shotgun".
However, airsoft toys are almost useless in firearm building.
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>>28542483
Where do you live OP?
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Pat MacNamara on InRange 2016-01-14 15:34:05 Post No.28542284
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Pat Mac interview on In Range TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFjyYm61nOI
That guy is fucking awesome. I really like how he said "I'm just a civilian now" he seems to have completely avoided the Larry V. and other fucktards blunder of insisting he's THE final word because of his experiences. Seems like an incredibly wise guy.
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>>28542284
This is where the quote on the wall is from BTW. Before someone asks.
Also, more Pat MacNamara video.
>Does your range drill include pushing trucks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq-hQYcoVmw
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No love for Pat? The guy did spoopy shit during the cold war and rappelled out of helicopters with an M16A1.
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>>28542284
He comes off as very level in his videos, and definitely has an imposing physical presence.
I bet he's seen some shit too
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Syria/Middle East thread 2016-01-14 14:19:45 Post No.28541803
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>Islamic State regains control over Ghazal Village in Northern Countryside of Aleppo
>They also claim to have taken 6 prisoners near Kweires airbase
>ISF claims IS may have launched some type of offensive Salahudeen Province, several VBIED attacks
That's all I got for now, looks like this is going to be a slow day.
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>>28541803
I missed the last thread.
Does anyone have a link back there?
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>>28541918
>>28493322
Next time, use the archives.
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>During the final stages of his U.S. Army Special Forces Qualification Course in December 2005, Gene Yu was in the Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) phase of the program. In accordance with the requirements of the training, Yu only carried his military ID card and a knife. Yu and his classmates were also expected to learn to live off the land, and as such, ate very little. In the final days of the evasion portion of the school and motivated by hunger, Yu left the boundaries of the exercise and came upon a group of Guatemalans in the North Carolina forest. Using Spanish skills acquired during extensive foreign travel, Yu was able to convince them to give him a ride to the nearby town of Aberdeen. After reaching Aberdeen and being rejected by a convenience store, Yu directed the group to a Papa John's Pizza's location he knew he could pay of and he then ordered pizzas and other food at the restaurant. He knew he could pay without an actual physical credit card, and with a memorized credit card information and his ID card because he had done it in the past at other Papa John’s restaurant locations. Yu returned to his classmates with the food. Though they destroyed the evidence of the pizzas, Yu was later found with the receipt during the resistance phase of the school during a strip search that was part of the training. Yu was initially forced out of the U.S. Army Special Forces Qualification Course, despite only being short one day of graduation, but was later able to repeat the class and receive his Green Beret. While some saw the incident as a typically creative Special Forces-type of solution to the SERE challenge, and his story is still reportedly told as a cautionary tale to incoming students to the SERE program by its cadre (albeit without Yu’s name and with the consequence of having been being forced out of the school).[2][5]
TOP KEK. I have an opportunity to goto SERE, should I do it?
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>>28540719
Which level of SERE? Go for it, have fun.
That dude deserved a coin, ARCOM, and a blowjob from the commander's daughter.
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>>28540719
>guy successfully survives, evades and escapes
>fail him
fucking wat
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>>28540719
This fucker should've been given the CMOH and command of at least three SFG teams
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What does /k/ think about SQUAD? Seems to require a lot of coordination and teamwork. Also the weapons are supposed to be super realistic.
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>>28539647
Early access :^)
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>>28539647
FORTY DOLLARS
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Looks stupid, the action seems very slow. Also the getting shot once kill you like in Ghost Recon is kinda dumb.
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Can Carl Gustav take out modern MBT? What about modern MBT with era?
It seems like the direct Western counterpart to the RPG-29, which can fuck up an M1 abrams right good.
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>>28538361
>carl gustav
>direct western counterpart to RPG29
LOL
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>>28538384
But really, the gustav is outdated garbage from 1940's that is useful as a general purpose rocket launcher, whereas the RPG-29 is a much more advanced AT launcher meant to engage MBT's.
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>>28538420
>Carbon fibre
>Still in mainstream production
>Still in service with many, many countries
>Entering service more and more with the US military
>outdated
>garbage
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Freedom aint free edition
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
Resources:
>Armyranger.con
For Ranger info, obviously.
>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.
>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.
>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
OP template
http://pastebin.com/sb5Gv1dW
Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga
Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters. Just keep it contained to this general
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>>28537512
It's really hard to answer that question, because there's lots of different SOF units and there are some differences between them.
For example, if you're in a special mission unit, you don't really play by Army rules at all, and your performance evaluations are classified. Those types of units do their promotion boards in house, completely separate from normal Army promotions, and I don't know what their promotion rates are like.
More "normal" SOF units play by Army rules... for enlisted it's easy promotions up to around SFC, then pretty average above that. Officers, from what I've seen, are about the same as in other branches.
If you're actual 18 series SF, you're going to stay in SF units unless you get a really unusual job. For SF support, it's just a duty assignment for you, and the next time you PCS, it's probably going to be to a conventional unit.
For non-18s, you don't want to stay at SF units too long. Promotion boards want you to have a wide variety of assignments and units, and you need some "real Army" in there with the cool stuff, or else you won't be competitive.
TL;DR Not very different
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>>28538115
What opportunity/purpose does an officer interested in SOF have?
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does the Navy have an equivalent to CI Agent?
Favourite varmint caliber and why?
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God_of_MUAR (ID: !!zChevKPVdJz)
2016-01-14 02:28:44
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>>28536875
5.56, cheap and effective.
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Hornady 55 gr v-max
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Are main battle tanks now obsolete?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_battle_tank#Cold_War
>The United States's experience in the Vietnam War contributed to the idea among army leadership that the role of the main battle tank could be fulfilled by attack helicopters. During the Vietnam War, helicopters and missiles competed with MBTs for research money.
>Though the Persian Gulf War reaffirmed the role of main battle tanks, MBTs were outperformed by the attack helicopter. Other strategists considered that the MBT was entirely obsolete in the light of the efficacy and speed with which coalition forces neutralized Iraqi armour.
I think so, and the role of the attack helicopter itself will soon be superceded by low-flying urban combat drones, maybe even small robots with guns that can fly through doors to replace ground troops, as we put ourselves further and further away from man-on-man combat.
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>>28530119
You won't be asking that if there's a line of them parked in an open field while supported by AAA and artillery, OP.
They work just fine when supported. The Russians even used them in urban areas in Afghanistan before Drozd came about. I don't remember the exact details of the vignette, but it's in "Bear Went Over The Mountain" if you want to read about it.
The author said something along the lines like "if it is stupid and it works, it is not stupid."
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There will always been a need for MBTs, how they will look 20 years in the future i dont think many can say accurately, the same goes for attack helicopters.
The only reason i wouldnt say that attack helis will replace mbts is how fragile and maintenance heavy helis are
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Helicopters cannot take or hold ground. Tanks can.
Its essentially the same reason as to why you need an army to invade and conquer territories. An Air Force can do a great job of supporting an invasion or defending against one. But to own real estate, you need boots and treads on the ground.
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How would you fight a war against an army like this?
Note : Tanks/Missiles/Planes/Artillery is not an acceptable answer for the same reason that one line answers get you half a mark at best in high school.
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>>28523451
Tanks/Missiles/Planes/Artillery.
Next question please.
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>>28523462
you trying to be funny kid?
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what movie is this? 80ies Soviet army vs aliums?
Also fight them just like they do in that clip.
No living thing can stand up to 20mm+ cannon fire
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California Meetup Thread 2016-01-11 16:36:18 Post No.28507202
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California Meetup Thread
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I'm back from the 5th dimension edition.
> When is it?
January 30th - 31st.
> Where is it?
Roughly in the middle of California near Fresno, along I-5. There are currently carpools being organized departing from the Bay Area and Orange County. Our Slack channel has the details.
> How do I get involved?
E-mail [email protected] to join our slack channel. There you'll get access to the carpool spreadsheet and more information.
> What do I bring?
Food and camping supplies to sustain you for as long as you intend to stay, the meet will last from Saturday morning to Sunday evening.
You are not required to bring your own firearms, myself and some others are bringing rifles and ammunition for those who don't own their own and wish to join the fun.
Unfortunately we can't bring clays around this time, lead and tannerite are both fine.
I'd like people to bring tables, shade, and targets as these are things I can't personally supply for everybody, we have a spreadsheet floating around for who-brings-what.
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>Near Fresno
Finally a meetup I can actually go to
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Since my old computer was spirited away somewhere, I lost all my meetup pasta and info. I can get the email list back, but I can't recover all the photos of old meetups. Post em if you got em.
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>>28507272
I don't have any photos, but OC Kommando checking in!
>I still have seats to offer
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Howdy partners,
I'm nobody special, but I thought it would be cool to have a USA veteran thread.
Hell, any nationality. Post here.
God bless.
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3rd id here OIF V vet here, class of 07-08. Sledgehammer!
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>>28549745
How'd you get the V device partner?
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Glorified welfare queen reporting sir!