Why is Sig's P22X line of handguns so expensive? I get why an all steel gun would carry a premium over all the plastic wonderguns but even their polymer-framed ones are costly? What do they do that handguns that cost half as much don't. Is it really as simple as some kind of faggy SEAL fanboyism? I'd love to own a P226 but the price is absurd.
>>28570773
Then don't buy one. 226's were cool before the mk25. They are priced the way they are because people are willing to pay that price for them
>>28570773
I would also like to hear legitimate reasons for the price
>>28570773
Except that's wrong. The P22X pistols (220, 245, 225 226, 227, 228, 229, etc) have METAL frames, hence the price premium. The SP2022 is polymer and you can get it for less than a Glock, around $400. The P320 is polymer and it's priced competitively with Glocks, from $475-575, depending on if it has night sights.
What should the US replace it's aging Bradley fleet with?
I don't see why would spend tons of money on research when we get an just get some fine export IFV's.
>Muh American made American developed
This needs to stop. I bet it's the reason they shitcanned the C-27J
Canadian LAV-3's. The firepower of a Bradley and the mobility of a Stryker.
>>28570602
>This needs to stop
yeah, creating jobs and expanding know-how needs to stop
#feelthebern
>>28570620
Couldn't they just use Stryker weapons platforms if they wanted that?
Or "How I wasted my Saturday"
Hey /k/ you ever deal with somebody that didn't know about gun laws?
Somebody who logically should have known?
>>28570387
>doesnt even greentext what happened
good job, faggot
>>28570387
maybe you should have gone to a real smith instead of billy bob the part time plumber
>>28570387
Here is the story about how my saturday was wasted
>I won a bid on gunbroker for an antique (pre 1898) H&R top break revolver
>I'm under 21, but because of legal shennanigans antique guns are not legally 'firearms'
>I recieve my gun in the mail and the gun has a few problems
>The hammer wouldnt engage the sear but it would work in DA
>My normal gunsmith wouldn't touch it, he only works on 1911s
>I asked around and the closest smith that'll work on it is a guy working out of garage 25 miles away
Was the F-4 Phantom II the best aircraft ever made?
It may have been, but now the F35 exists.
>>28569930
Stealth F4 phantom.
>>28569901
Define "best".
why?
>>28569663
What ask why?
Drink Bud Dry.
ARs aren't some special snowflake guns. Who cares?
>>28569663
Because retarded movie with the ugly blonde singer chick with a shitty haircut and voice.
>2016
>he doesn't own a west german p226/228 with an srt trigger yet
Umm...why? I got time to kill so let's hear that excuse. This should be interesting.
Sigs are super overrated imo, most of their value comes from marketing
>>28569648
Hey bb, want sum fuk?
>>28569648
Because I don't. I am thinking about the srt trigger for my 220 though.
Would this work? Or do I need an extra 2-4 inches past the gas port.
Comments, picture edits or similar obsession of making ancient funs uglier and useless.
>>28569256
Son, you're 8 ways of retarded.
>>28569256
This is a good thread
>>28569299
;_;
Whats best in the 4 inch "compact" range? Give ups and downs and why you would carry it.
So far
Sig p320
Glock 19
Walther PPQ
HK VP9
>>28569181
I'd go with the PPQ, it has a really nice trigger and a super short reset.
PPQ and VP9 feel pretty much the same to me. Though I prefer the PPQs mag release.
Sig P320 feels more or less like any other sig in the hand but doesn't have that DA/SA trigger, and it has a higher bore axis over the PPQ and VP9
Theyre all really nice but if just one of them was offered to me, I'd grab the PPQ
G19>ppq>p320>vp9
P30SK>M9-A1>FNSc>G19/26>VP9>P320>PPQ
It's no secret that the ATF is staffed by a bunch of incompetent dickheads, but my old man (en ex LEO) told me about one time some ATF agents almost got him killed.
>Be my dad in 1989
>Clock in, get my assignment for the day, start my shift
>I have the paddy wagon today, I hop in with my partner and the day begins
>Get a call on the radio, it's my sergeant
>"Car 9, we got in touch with some feds that are going to case a house, they asked for a wagon and some guys in uniforms"
>Hell yeah, let's go.
>Meet up with the feds, they're both wearing jackets with ATF on the back
>Oh shit, here we go
>"Hey gents, thanks for the help, we have an interest in a guy in the area that's a part of one of the local biker gangs, we think that he way be in possession of automatic weapons and that he has intent to sell them, so we're going to poke around and see if we can't get anything out of him."
>"Alright, where does he live?"
> Fed points to the house in front of us "That one."
>jesusfuckingchrist.jpeg
>"So you mean to tell me that there may be a guy with automatic weapons in there, and we've been standing out front of his house in uniform for five minutes!?"
>ATF guy gets all flustered and says "well what do you think we should do officer?" (He put a lot of emphasis on the word officer)
>"Whatever, fuck this" I get my partner and we walk up to the house and knock on the door.
>Some old dude answers the door.
>"Good morning sir, does so and so live here?"
>Old man raises an eyebrow and says "Warrant?"
>"We don't have a warrant, we just wanted to-"
>"Then have a nice day gentlemen" old guy shuts the door. Probably was the guy's dad and was in the fold at one point as well.
> Walk back to the wagon, but not before chewing the ATF guy out.
>"Your lieutenant will hear about this" The ATF guy says
>"Yeah sure, blow me."
>Rest of he day goes smoothly
And that was when Dad learned first hand that the ATF ain't shit.
>>28568280
ATF was especially shitty in 1989 since that year they also tightened the "sporting purpose" clause and banned over 40 sport guns from import because "muh assault weapons".
>>28568280
No surprise there.
I wonder where they find those guys...
>>28568324
The saying goes "If the FBI won't take you the DEA might, If the DEA won't take you, the Marshalls might, and if the Marshalls won't take you, the ATF most definitely will.
>"I'd never open carry because a badguy would just take the gun away from me or I'd be the first person he'd target in a shooting!"
Is there a single, recorded event of this ever happening or is this just a fuddlore meme?
Probably happened some for people without retention holsters.
Has probably happened almost zero times for retention holsters, especially type 2 and above.
>>28567760
It's so fucking obvious that statistics aren't even necessary.
OC puts you in danger
>>28567760
Logic is hard
You lose the element of surprise that is so critical for a CHL carrier
ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT
SEND IN THE BIG BOYS
A big plane. For you. Why does it wear the dildo.
>>28567268
So if you were to have a plane like that and stick a bigass missile in that tube like one of those Chinese Anti ship missiles, would it destroy the plane when you launched the missile?
>>28567268
What am I looking at
How strong is the Turkish military?
>>28567003
Pretty strong on paper, suffers from kebabisim however.
>>28567012
>kebabism
>>28567003
Easily in the top 10 most powerful militaries, would be higher if they could keep their soldiers from committing suicide
Did they operated hard enough for you, /k/?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3401845/Reports-explosion-gun-battles-upmarket-tourist-hotel-capital-Burkina-Faso.html
dem 416A5's
famas replacement when?
>>28566237
>>28566228
>>28568404
Apparently one American guy was with them, rest were frogs, I wonder which one the American was :^).
So Sig's released an air gun version of the MPX.
And from everything I can tell, it'll be legal in Australia.
http://www.airgundepot.com/sig-sauer-mpx.html
Discuss.
I'm sorry you cant have the real toys.
>>28565700
SIG has released a live fire version of the MPX and it's legal in the United States.
>>28565700
Nigger it's an airgun those are classed as firearms in Australia and you need a license for it
I suppose this is the best board for this...
How would someone create a building/structure to prevent effective and secure room clearing tactics as much as possible?
I think long hallways without cover are the usual nightmare scenario...
Also, I like bunkers.
>>28565012
murder-holes, and no dead ends are very good as well.
>>28565012
MC escher levels of design must be considered
after that vertical sliding doors, false doors, bricked off rooms, rooms hidden behind walls, secret hatches and passages everywhere, and a few30 foot deep ballpits help too
>>28565012
now fuck off