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Non-standard Caliber Edition
Old thread here >>29298160
Centruy Arms M70 ABM
>>29318165
That bayonet mount Mmm
The last thread dug in
101 Dalmatias Edition
> What's this thread about?
As usual this thread is for the discussion and pics of tracked and wheeled AFVs of all kinds from MBTs to supertanks to self propelled AA guns. Please keep it civil and cite sources for statistics.
The most important precept in keep in mind regarding the role of the tank arm in the Great War, is that it was by no means, a war winning weapon. As stupendous of an achievement as it was in terms of technological progress, the tank was but in its infancy, as were the tactics to use them. The end of the First World War, came not as the result of a single panacea employed by the Entente - be it the naval blockade, the overwhelming success of the Hundred Days Offensive, the effects of Allied attrition on multiple fronts against the Central Powers, the tank, the plane or victory against Bulgaria and the Ottomans - but with a strangled gasp by both sides over the finish line. Unlike the Cabinet Wars of Enlightenment fame, there were no clearly identifiable diplo-military aims, and in any case, the wherewithal to establish and put them into place. Germany was effectively fighting, by 1918, not for a disputed claim or imperial war goal, but to secure its status as a great power; its allies Austria-Hungary and Turkey were fighting for the means of their very own survival in the post-war order. To lose the conflict, would mean the disintegration of their restive, sprawling empires, being unable to rely on nationalistic interests to secure the stability of the state, and in the worst, but increasingly likely scenario, outright partition. The Ottomans, were the most acutely aware of this, having faced the predations of European imperial ambitions in the past, and Enver, Cemal and Talat Pasha knew that to suffer further partition would finally kill the sick man of Europe. Therefore, it appears quaint, but appropriate to accord the humble telegram more strategic impact in the war’s end than a weapon.
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>The Birth of the Land Ship (1/3)
The idea of a mechanised land vehicle on tracks predate the war projects of the First World War, stretching back to even the 19th century, as inventors of all stripes built upon their expertise regarding steam propulsion and locomotive technology to envision vehicles of a more versatile sort. However, the most concrete start to the evolution of the tank in the shape that it would see the battlefield is undoubtedly the formation of the Landships Committee by First Lord of the Admiralty Winston Churchill in February 1915. Soon after an initial phase of organisation and experimentation with various existing frames of wheeled and tracked reference, its operations were soon taken over by the general authority of the War Office in July, leading soon after to its renaming as the “Tank Supply Committee”, a codename for the vehicles in development. In August 1915, crawler tracks manufactured by the Bullock Creeping Grip Tractor Company of Chicago along with full sets of rollers, frames and sprockets, stretched versions of the company’s agricultural products, arrived in Liverpool for assembly. William Tritton and director of the William Foster & Company of Lincoln and his colleague Walter Wilson, a naval liaison with engineering expertise were put in charge of the construction effort of what would become known as the prototype Number One Lincoln Machine. Said machine would finally finish construction in September and achieve mobility at Wellington Foundry. It was not exceptional looking; a riveted steel body with a drum-shaped turret ran on a conventional series of tracks. It incorporated a British Daimler engine and transmission, also derived from agricultural machines. However, performance was subpar, with the roughly 16 tonne weight and shoddy track quality being severe detriments, especially in trench crossing trials.
>The Birth of the Landship (2/3)
It was here while development was stuck in a rut that an enterprising Army officer, Colonel Ernest Swinton, came on behalf of the War Office to observe the proceedings. Tritton and Wilson confided in Swinton of hitherto unrevealed plans for an even more ambitious design, one where tracks appeared to run all around the tank’s body. The advantages would be enormous, especially where mobility was concerned, yet the biggest hurdle was the lack of an adequate British crawler track design, where the Americans led the world in design quality, yet only for agricultural purposes. With the tacit approval of Swinton, the pair furiously worked on a British military grade crawler track design, completed and announced by the 22nd of September 1915. Freed from the constraints of commercial tracks, they were ready to embark on the next phase of design, spearheaded by the curious prototype, now nicknamed Little Willie. Little more than a box on tracks its primary purpose seems to only have been to be able to achieve mobility – there was very little consideration for space in the crew compartment, although understandably so. Even so, performance was meagre, with the mighty Daimler engine producing only 105hp at 1000rpm. In terms of combat applications, it was slated to mount a Vickers 2pdr and a Vickers-Maxim machinegun located at the front of the hull, but plans for weapons did not advance much further than hypotheticals. While its wheel-based steering offered substantially improved control, there was little to no springing in place, which meant a lot of potential shearing along where its components scraped along where its tracks contacted the ground. A “perfected” Little Willie in the form of a wooden prototype was sent to London for inspection, although it is unclear what the proposal looked like at that stage. Nevertheless, it was approved and arrived in Hertfordshire, 1916 for trials.
>The Birth of the Landship (3/3)
From this point on, the biggest debate and point of contention was on what kind of armament to put on the tank. In the end, the Admiralty settled upon existing stocks of weapons, namely the Six Pounder, Single Tube, a 1915 modification of the Hotchkiss 57 mm. It was characterised by a long 2280 mm barrel and a maximum range of 7500 yards at a muzzle velocity of 554 m/s. Two problems confronted the designers regarding the placement of the weapon: the conundrum of how to add a turret to house the gun without affecting the tank’s centre of gravity adversely and the fact that any gun would have to be placed directly above the engine, without room (or even suitable conditions, being next to a white hot engine) for the crew. Upon directive from Eustace d’Eynecourt (a familiar name to those aware of The Old Gang), the designers adopted side sponsons, fitted to a pedestal base offering 100 degrees of fire. To prevent the crewmen (a loader and a gunner for each sponson) being crushed against each other, there were slight differences in the layout of each sponson station, consequently with the port one off by 5 degrees ahead, while the starboard gun could fire straight ahead. The tank in question had many names; the Admiralty still called it Little Willie; it was officially known as HMLS Centipede, but it has also been known by Mother. On 29 January 1916, it gave a live demonstration in front of Hatfield House, conquering marshes, trenches and barriers, to the delight of everyone present, and the peculiar indifference of War Lord Kitchener. 100 machines were immediately ordered, and the Ministry of Munitions now took on the responsibility, along with personnel and advice from the Admiralty.
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>Quebec LGR petition has wrapped up with a reported 58k signatures (42k digital). Public hearings on the bill to start March 23.
>Quebec Premier has said there will be no free vote on the matter, what a surprise.
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/2016/03/16/couillard-rules-out-free-vote-for-liberals-on-long-gun-registry.html
GG, QC, remember that you're helping to keep illegal guns out of the hands of criminals when you register that SKS.
>>29316861
First for glorious Canuk smg.
>>29316957
Second for confusion. How bad does Bill C-230 fuck us?
>>29317011
I was under the impression that it could potentially result in prohib status for any gun that had a prohib version, but I was informed it didn't work that way. Supposedly it only counts for OIC prohibs. Still, it will result in a fairly large number of guns becoming legal again, including the SVD.
SPR edition
old thread
>>29308660
>>29315018
in
>>29315025
>>29315025
Can I get some advice /arg/
Cumrag Edition
>>29313799
>ccu pants for 2.50
JESUS.
>>29313907
Yessir.
Now, to buy the shirt? Or sell these trousers?
>>29313928
A is for Adidas
B is for Balaclava
C is for Cute Jeans
>>29311420
Nice, I was gonna say concealment
...or C-cups
Reticle edition
Old thread >>29305313
>>29308660
>reticle
Someday
>>29308694
>you will get your back ordered scope before gc changes his gb
you can't make this up
upper, coffee, knife edition
old thread >>29298526
>>29305313
first for normie groups
>>29305313
First for nighttime innawoods with no weapon light
/brg/ Battle Rifle General
Snow edition
Previous thread:
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>>29304583
snows gone fampai
>>29304667
No?
>>29304583
There was never any snow in South Central Texas to begin with.
Post your girls with your guns
That chick lean though.
>>29304356
Whiskey Tango/10
>>29304356
Check the catalog dingus
>>29303367
Old bread went stale, so here's to a new one.
Old thread here: >>29236700
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I can't keep up with the exploding patch market.
>>29301816
Yeah, it has really grown in the past year or so. Especially in the past few months when /k/ alone has started quite a lot of patch shops.
post your plinking ammo edition
old thread >>29296183
tfw not in stock anywhere
all I've got in a couple of boxes of that left
>>29298535
iktf i can only find cases for sale
Now that I have 1K it has become my plinking ammo.
post what you got /k/
>>29298408
>>29298408
>>29298933
AK General /akg/
Milled Edition
Old thread >>29273080
Milled is life
>>29297233
where the fuck did u find a sar3?
>>29298239
Local pawn shop traded me for my PSA freedom AR kit gun
what does /k/ drive?
If no car, what is your ideal SHTF vehicle?
>>29294104
'13 Jetta TDI, '10 Golf
>>29294104
>>29294104
Volvo V70 '01 in commie red.
A tank of a car even if the offroad capabilitys are a bit questionable.
Not an ideal SHTF vehicle, ill probably just take a Bv 206 from the Homeguard if I ever end up in such a scenario