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>>30173853
>Cont.
There are three major future missions that a bomber platform like this would be most suited for that a B-21 might not be best when it debuts and the older platforms begin to retire:

>Saturation attack on enemy surface navies
- Future potential adversaries have weaker naval air forces and are pivoted towards using surface vessels or submarines to strike carrier battle groups before they can launch missiles or aircraft to combat them.
- US doctrine is to combat these enemy vessels with saturation missile strikes, but even the massive combined ordinance of a CBG may not be enough to break through the equally massive enemy air defenses.
- A quick response from a large bomber to launch stand-off missiles can put the tide of the battle in the US Navy's favor, either by attacking enemy vessels from additional axis or absorbing enough enemy countermeasures for Naval anti-ship weapons to get through.
- The B-21 can possibly fill this role as well, but a supersonic bomber can respond to the conditions of the battle much quicker, launch weapons that will get to their targets faster, and then GTFO when weapons are depleted.

>Saturation attack on enemy air forces
- Future potential adversaries may finally be able to produce stealth aircraft in large numbers or attempt to counter US stealth air forces with large squadrons of conventional fighters.
- Inventory of US stealth fighters is expected to be limited even with mass production of F-35s. Even with full payloads of air-to-air BVR missiles, significant risk is placed on the fighters and limits what missions the fighters can do after they get past enemy fighter screens.

>>30173872
>Cont.
- This role is that of the proposed B-1R, but that project appears to have died. This bomber built to replace the B-1 can conduct this mission in a more capable package.
- Bomber loaded with long range air-to-air missiles enters battle space and saturates enemy fighters with weapons. Onboard avionics lock on to hundreds of targets and engages all at once, or launches in the general direction of the fleet and bomber flees which tactical fighters use data links to guide 80,000+ pounds of missiles to their targets.

>Deliver heavy air-to-air or air-to-space payloads at targets at high altitudes or low Earth orbits.
- Future potential adversaries will invest in satellites for their own uses. Bomber can have persistent presence at high attitudes to engage multiple targets or make multiple attacks if necessary.
- B-21 is not expected to be designed to fly over 50,000 feet nor required to launch air-to-air weapons. Tactical fighters can operate at high attitudes and perform anti-sat mission but with more limited armament and fuel. Companion supersonic bomber can deliver heavy ordinance at higher altitudes.
- Bomber can also be used to shoot down large, fast targets such as ICBMs, space debris, or even alien space craft during entry into atmosphere.

I wanted to know what /k/ thought about any of this. Speed is life in the Air Force and I really think the supersonic bomber/missile truck mission has a place even in a future full of hypersonic missiles and stealth fighters. A previous thread on a future naval battle simulated on CMANO really opened my eyes to the fact that future war needs MOAR guided missiles, and the US Air Force is falling short. I can’t see the B-21 contributing to that kind of battle without putting it in unnecessary risk.

>InB4 Listerine, glider-fag or any other fag
I’m not those guys nor am I dead set on this idea. I just wanna know what I’m missing or if there is something being planned that offsets this problem.

>>30173886
>InB4 Future Bomber 2037 Project.
I dunno too much about that project, and it could very well be the kind of plane I’m outlining here. But if that were the case, a supersonic stealth heavy bomber sounds like an easier and more desperately needed project than the B-21, so why is the B-21 coming first?

>>30173824
Then they're probably going to do the first field tests of the railguns on you

>>30173824
You gonna use your magical metal bending to get those containers from one ship to another Magneto? Do you see a fuckhueg crane anywhere in the middle of the ocean? Gonna re-paint the ship and hope that that is enough to deter the US Navy from chasing you?

Summer everybody.

>>30173824
Even if you did get a ship with a crane mounted on it for this to work, and a large enough crew to have a large enough boarding party to basically operate the entire other ship so that it stays still for your container-switching, you'd still have tons of trouble with port authorities when you'd go to unload because shipping containers are tracked and inspected.

Yes definitely, I shoot my Buckmark all the time for fundamental practice. Furthermore I learned even more shooting my walmart co2 pistol. That's how I learned to shoot with both eyes open.

I have a really bad habit flinching if I haven't been shooting in a while. And I will spend 50 bucks on ammo just to get relaxed again. So I think I will go ahead and get a good 22 pistol. Any suggestions?

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This is what I am probably going to buy. The Browning Buck in green. Good price for me.

>>30173741
Sorta.

Went to the Sports shooting fair in southern commiefornia today.

>>30173741
Tikka tikka! Tikka-ti!

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>>30173741
>shooting guns

>>30173569
Guy I know bought one, had striker problems or something right out of the box.

>>30173633
i find that extremely hard to believe. sounds like user error, its an iso 9000 factory made weapon, the striker is solid as fuck.

>>30173569
turks are the scum of the earth but >$399 for a double stack 9mm is pretty good. I might get one when I move to Arizona

a katana.

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Jihadis

Bottom row 4th from left, is color sample I thought had a circle edited on pic

sell it and buy an ar

/thread

>>30173536
Right, ok. Because after all this thread was about which rifle was better.

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blamp

I've heard carabiners work but I'd bet most cops would know what you're really carrying them for if they shook you down.

>>30173579
i saw those suggested somewhere, but someone else said they'd fuck up your hands. never tried them so not really sure.

i think all these weapon-carrying laws are horseshit. they dont want you to shoot someone defending yourself, but they dont want you carrying anything else either. i guess pepper spray is pretty much the only thing thats mostly legal everywhere.

>>30173228
The one with the best pilot.

>>30175596

false

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>>30173228
How about both flying together?

I shot this yesterday at a WWII airshow.

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>>30168363
hms nelson and rodney were literal sex.
inb4 buttharmed wehraboos crying about muh scuttling

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The Pride of the Second Roman Empire, reporting.

>>30168427
The only ship scuttled in WW2 was HMS hood.

I mean a hang a long a black person got killed does this not I ean I have yo go throuh a ling arml

>>30172928

dude what

>>30172871
No, it's /asp/ material.

>>30172801

I'VE GOT SPURS THAT J IN GLE JANGLE JINGLEEEERR

>>30173609
JINGLE JANGLE

god this game was so shitty compared to fo4, why do you faggots like it other than to be contrarian

There is also a lot of talk about zombies coming about and killing everyone. Doesnt mean it has any actual basis in reality or will happen.

>>30166216
> ISIS like groups will now rape their way across the OPEC nations and Europe now has no gas.

I'm not seeing the problem here.

>>30166243
>thinking that a civil war has no basis in reality and compares it to zombies
God damn you're retarded

Depends. If it's one I've shot IRL I'd have to say the S&W Model 69/67, they're both the same just different calibers and cylinder capacity. Love it.

I would like to shoot/own a S&W R8, mainly just because I'm a CS:GO faggot

But my favorite from fiction has to be the Ambassador from TF2.

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>implying there's another option

>>30172582
>At least 1200fps.
Really?

>>30172582
I have a gammo whisper shoots around 1250 when using light PBA ammo. its a great gun and a blast to shoot with a scope I have repeatedly hit a target at 100 yards the size of a quarter. Also velocity isn't as important as you think, but if you want it gammo has some monsters in .17 shooting at 1600 fps with special ammo. Also make sure you son has respect for wild life ex wont shoot cats and stuff, iv seen videos of kids shooting peoples cats makes me sick

>>30172599
Is that too fast for the price range?