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>>31954560

If you actually believe that civil unrest is about to happen, trusted friends and family are what's going to make the difference.

Look at how people survive in places like Somalia and Afghanistan, and you'll start to notice a trend.

Many sons, and a lot of guns.

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>>31954568

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>>31954143
Here's my take on the thing

>Common capacities
First and before all, they should immediately work on common projection, command and control capabilities.
Buying a bunch of A400M, some C-5 or C-17 and aircraft refuelers, is not a big budget and would tremendously reduce costs with economies of scale and negociating power.
A CC structure is nearly already built, one of its first mission could be to manage the new common capabilities efficiently. the goal would be to have an internal provider of transportation that countries or NATO could rely on. At term, some countries could start deferring part of their planes to this structure to let it be managed by them.

Next step is the coastal guard and custom/frontier agency. They have already been created now it's just time to give them men, equipment and budget. I think we can all agree this is highly needed and will provide great results rapidly.

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>>31954151
Now a bit more strategy
I think the major threats that the EU are the following

>A. Internal Terrorism
They did it several time and will do it again. Allah Snackbar motherfucker love to bomb/gun/run down free europeans,

>B. Mother Russia
Even if some detente with NATO can be hoped in a near future, Poutine and Russia in general still consider itself a rival of the West and oppose its valor/culture. Unconventional military operations are not to be discarded, even if full blown conventional conflict is very unlikely.

>C. Instability at its border (see Ukraine, transinistria, Yugoslavia etc)
Some eastern or central Europe countries could know civil war or turmoil, Which means refugees and weapons entering europe and instability in the close countries.

>D. Major mediteranean state failure
Today Libya and Syria have gone down the toilet, but tomorrow things could go south in Algeria, Morroco or even Turkey. Consequences are less direct to Europe (except for Turkey in terms of rapefugees) but it could affect it and its interests nonetheless.

>E. Piratery
It has been curbed down following Eufnavor Atalanta but the problem could surge elsewhere

>F. ONU intervention in foreign country
Our allies request our help, or the ONU decides a resolution. Think Afghanistan, or Centrafrica.

>G. Unrest or attacks in remote territories
France or the netherland for example have a shitload of islands everywhere. Some of them could be menaced by a neighbour, or be flooded by refugees following turmoil in nearby island. Some could also fight for independance or fall into civil war/ guerilla.

>H. cyberattacks orl attacks targetting infrastructures.
Power grid, confidential info hacking, satellite missiles etc.

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>>31954176
I personally think that some threats like G. should not be attended by a european military but rather by the affected country itself, unless it specifically asks for help. The lending of projection capabilites by allies or European agencies should be enough.
Some other missions, like A. should not be attended by the military at all. This is a mission for intelligence and law enforcement, not for soldiers.

Regarding H., I do think the military should somewhat be involved with cybersecurity at some degree.
Infrastructure defense should be organized and supervised by them too.

Naval defense against piratery or coastal surveillance are two things that would be better handled by a single european military.

Foreign interventions cause a lot of ethic problem, it is probably best to only supply logistics and let the countries decide, yet some peacekeeping or disaster relief should probably be done at long term

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>>31953927
>What would it be like if Spetsnaz worked in tandem with our special ops soldiers?
dead sand niggers, dead sand niggers everywhere.

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>>31953927

>>31953927
Remember how fucked up Germany got?

>>31953743
>Russia takes everything
>Sanctions lifted but due to years of corruption nothing is really gained by trading with them
>be known as the country that sold out our oldest allies
>no other countries willing to take a chance on us
>Putin laughs at Trump weakness
I mean, at least we'll have our actual Russian rifles so it's not all bad i guess

>>31953901
This. It's a black hole. It sucks and no matter how much shit you throw at it, it takes it all and gives nothing back.

Invade it? It will consume unimaginable amounts of men and material and return nothing.

Try to trade with it like a civilized nation? No amount of capital investment will get you a reasonable ROI unless you're dumping >50% into bribes, and if you're willing to throw that much money at criminals, why don't you go somewhere else where in Asia or Africa that same money will buy you so much more?

>>31953952
>Invade it? It will consume unimaginable amounts of men and material and return nothing.
Why would you ever invade Russia? They can barely feed themselves.

Blockade their ports and watch their "economy" work.

>>31953660
You fucking help them and don't black them out. This is your chance to turn them into people who will vote to preserve the 2nd amendment.

Stop acting like a baby back bitch.

>mom hates guns
>treats me like a serial killer
>homes start getting burglarized near her
>brazen daylight ones, don't care if people are home
>mom calls
>asks for gun advice
>"Dunno, google it."
>*click*

>>31953679
This.
My mom used to be super anti gun but I took her to the range to shoot my 10/22 once and she actually really enjoyed it. Don't be petty, help your family out nigga.

>>31953052
because its my constitutional right and i really like guns.

>>31953052
Because I can.

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Because they're fun and cool

nigga that's a $200 mauser

>>31952208
>mauser
>$700
Better hope those numbers match

>>31952208
>impulse buying milsurp

Don't do this if you don't know anything about the rifle you're buying.

>>31952096
>do you think he'll keep carrying while he's president? Can he? Has any other president carried?


Actually, pretty intredasting.

>>31952096

He really shouldn't need to. For the next four years he'll be surrounded by SS, and I promise they're more proficient than he is. A little .38 isn't going to do much for his safety when he's got a net of guards around him.

That said, he's perfectly entitled to if he wants.

>>31952096
Secret service generally forbids it. However Reagan carried a .38 revolver in his briefcase, according to one of his aides.

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>>31951337
MallNinjaDaryl/10

>>31951337

>doorstop baton
>that machete
>crossbow

you're trying too hard.

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>>31951337
"loadout"

>>31950243
>restore fully fledged relations
We never have had that.

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>>31950273
Shut up, Don't mess up my wet dream.

>>31950273
Thats what is so exciting

Will we actually be friendly with Russia for the first time ever?

Please god be real. $100 Dollar Garands would be fucking glorious.

Oh god I can only get so erect.

>>31950230
>HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
oh god please.

Condition fabric all day every day.

Appendix IWB. Have tried a few ways including strong side hip and 5 o'clock, appendix with a good holster and belt is just the best of all worlds.
>Good holster being Custom Carry Concepts or JM Custom Kydex, not most of the garbage ones /k/ got because of some celebrity endorsing them
Glock 19, one chambered, comfy and capable and I have never had it seen in 3 years of carrying at college.

IWB at the 4 o'clock position, condition one.

Traditionalism and fuddlore, mostly. The 1911 was outdated before the end of WWII, but people - especially gun owners - are resistant to change.

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>>31949585
Well that's gay.

>>31948306
Depends on the amount of troops and ordnance they send.

>>31948306
Probably for quite some time. Finnish defence strategy is based on wearing down the advancing spearhead for which the geography and terrain along the border and especially in southeastern Finland is perfect. Take a look at some maps and you´ll figure it out.

>>31948306
2 weeks
>>31948343
>the advancing spearhead
this isn't WW2

>>31948106
>Does this mean Overlord Trump and Comrade Putin are gunna shower me with $60.00 spam cans again?
No but we might get the sanctions lifted so we can get saigas again

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We can only hope.
>bakelite intensifies

>>31948134
You'd be better off having a hook up in Russia or Ukraine