The last thread? Fuggedabouit.
Spuds and Macaroni Edition
> What's this thread about?
As usual this thread is for the discussion and pics of tracked and wheeled AFVs of all kinds from MBTs to supertanks to self propelled AA guns. Please keep it civil and cite sources for statistics.
Marconi Command and Control Systems (of WWII radar fame) endeavoured in the 1980s to develop an entirely self-contained radar anti-aircraft gun suite. Designated the “Marksman”, one of its fundamental selling points was its ability to be transplanted onto almost any MBT chassis in existence at the time with very little engineering work required. The Marksman was comprised of the ubiquitous twin Oerlikon 35 mm and a Marconi 400-Series lightweight surveillance and tracking X/J band radar, able to surveil up to 12 km and track up to 10 km. The Marksman was famously accurate and reactive for its time, intended to engage aircraft at ranges of 4 km or less in a narrow window of only 20-30 seconds. A tracking speed of 60 degrees a second, and its 60 cm parabolic antenna’s wide beam allowed the system to achieve a documented hit ratio of 52.44% according to Finnish statistics. In spite of Marconi’s spirited attempts to garner a widespread export market, touting the Marksman’s versatility and very low cost in comparison to the Gepard or the prospective York, and some sporadic testing by the UK from 1985 onwards, only Finland became a buyer with an order of seven units in 1990. These early Marksmans were fitted onto T-55AM MBTs of Polish origin, being a vehicle design most accommodating to the near equivalent turret ring size of the Marksman. In 2010, however, these ItPsv 90 SPAAGs, as they were called, were moved into storage and replaced in 2015 with the ItPsv Leopard 2 Marksman, on a Leopard 2A4 chassis.
> Gun
Rifled 35 mm Twin KDA
> Dimensions (l w h)
9.3 x 3.7 x 4.82 m
> Weight
41 tonnes
> Engine
1479hp diesel
> Speed
72 km/h
>>32037349
OP: As always, feedback, suggestions wanted and appreciated.
New thread this week - apologies, once again, for the hiatus, as I expected the thread to last over the weekend, although I’m beginning to suspect that they have a strong tendency not to. The Marksman has been an AA system I have not covered even tangentially, and I thought it would be interesting to have a look at a system that was not a vehicle per se, but a self-contained AA suite marketed independently of vehicular accoutrements. It is perhaps a shame, that Marconi, with its reputation for quality and reliability in its radars, was unable to secure lasting export deals beyond Finland. Like the Otomatic, the Marksman was yet another nascent SPAAG design that did not see success in spite of its positive features. Considering Finland’s remarks on the effectiveness of the Marksman and their continued usage in the present even with more modern options available, it is a great shame that the G6 Marksman conversion deal between Marconi and Denel in 1994 did not go through.
Stats are for the Leopard 2 mounted Finnish variant.
Here’s an early Marconi brochure for the Marksman: (Album is private, so links are for individual pages)
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure1.jpg.html
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure2.jpg.html
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure3.jpg.html
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure4.jpg.html
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure5.jpg.html
http://s16.photobucket.com/user/hybenamon/media/LAND/ANTI-AIR/MARKSMAN/brochure6.jpg.html
>>32037357
More tank news, as per the new format.
If you have more queries regarding a news story, just point it out, and I’ll further elaborate and provide links.
In our first piece of post-election defense news, it appears that until March 2017, the Pentagon will be functioning on a stopgap Continuing Resolution budget until the transition to President-Elect Donald Trump’s administration is complete. With Mr Trump’s anti-sequestration attitude, it may be the case that there will be a marked increase in Department of Defense budgets in the near future.
Serbia is currently in talks with Russia to procure six MiG-29 aircraft and with it an undisclosed number of AFVs of miscellaneous type. As a prelude to this, Russia in the past had offered to sell Belgrade Buk SAMs, although budgetary constraints had scuttled the deal.
The field has narrowed for the British Challenger 2 Life Extension Programme, with only BAE Systems, GDLS and Rheinmetall being downselected in the Assessment Phase of the competition. The contract for the LEP is due to be awarded in December 2016, covering a maximum of 227 Challenger 2 MBTs, a figure liable for downwards revision due to restructuring. At the end of the Assessment Phase, one contractor will also be selected to be the Design Authority on Challenger 2s until the end of their service in 2035.
The Russian Ministry of Defense is reportedly planning to upgrade a number of T-80BV MBTs in military storage and bring them into service. Spearheaded by Omnsktransmash and SKBTM, the new tanks will feature the Sosna-U FCS and improved ERA, as well has receiving climatic suitability for the conditions of the Arctic, Siberia and the Far East.
The Republic of Korea has test fired a new upgraded K30 Biho SPAAG sporting four KP-SAM Shin-Gung MANPADS this week. Manufactured by LIG Nex1, the upgrade adds a much needed guided missile capability to the electro-optical gun based 30 mm Biho system.
And that’s all for now.
Germany should've continue gun tanks.
Anyone have any experience with Aguila ammo? Is it poop or is it meant for the range? Why is it the discount brand of ammo?
>>32034251
It's actually pretty good.
I didn't have very high expectations of Mexican ammo, but it's perfectly suitable for range use, same as any similarly priced brand as far as I've seen in 9mm and 22.
>>32034251
only stuff of theirs i've shot was subsonic 22lr. ran okay but why not support glorious usa ammo?
>>32034251
I use their .22 ammo and it works fine, a little dirty but hey it's .22
Does anyone have any experience with hogue p226 grips, specifically the ones with finger grooves vs the ones without? I got my P226 with the standard plastic logo grips but didn't like how slippery they felt when my hands started to sweat, so I got E2s. I like the texture, but the gun feels fairly small in my hands now, so I'm considering some Hogue rubber grips just to compare them. Any opinions on the best option? I know about the G10s, but are they really worth $100 compared to the other options?
Also, my groups shifted right when I put the E2s on, which leads me to think that the smaller size was right for my trigger finger placement, but I feel that I'm working harder shooting with the E2s.
>>32033211
Hogue makes good, quality grips and Sig actually contracts out with them for some of their OEM grips on different editions of their guns. The rubber overmolded grips will give you a longer trigger reach. If your hands are big enough, then that's fine. Me personally, I got my P226 with the rubber Hogue grips and I had to change it back to the factory plastic grips because the double action trigger reach was too far for comfort and good control.
The Sig E2 grips are known for shortening the trigger reach. If it gives you a point of comparison, I prefer these for my own hand size.
I haven't tried their G10 grips, but these might be too harsh to use for an extended period of time without gloves. It's a texture that's really intended to work together with gloves for maximum traction.
>>32033313
I have the DAK (have to use the DAK trigger unfortunately), so my reach would always be for DA. What size glove do you normally wear? I'm a large.
what does /k/ think of the Glock 19 for concealed carry and home defense?
>please, no glocknade shitposting
>>32036356
Good choice.
Certainly fits those roles.
>inb4 hurr durr 9mm
>>32036356
17 is mo bettah tho
Finallly got enough to get a nice .308 semi auto rifle for long range that have been battle proven and accurate. I've narrowed it down to three rifles but can't decide.
-Scar 17 with a 20in barrel configuration.
-LMT MWS
-KAC SR25 ER
Each cost about ~$3500. Should I get any of these or save up and get a SR25 APR?
No, stop now.
>>32032809
>he's falling for every meme imaginable
>>32032809
I suggest you go with a Savage bolt action, a Burris 4x12, and two thousand dollars worth of ammunition.
what is the gayest gun, /k/? Don't pretend you haven't given this some thought.
A Jiminez in .22lr
For some reason it has 2 safeties that work the same way.
>>32036053
Im having trouble coming up with anything, so... Springfield XD line?
>>32036061
>Jiminez .22 had to look it up
trigger pull 8-10 pounds. why the fuck. would this be a thing
/k/ what did french stratagy and tactics had to suck but their tanks and ships look sexy?
pic related french battle cruiser dunkerque
>>32032803
Pretty sure antman himself wouldn't upvote this picture
sorry boss was coming over and I had to look like I was doing actual work. Here's a better pic
Where can I obtain a 105mm recoilless anti tank gun?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/598329649
>>32030963
A 105mm gun is going to have recoil you retard.
>>32032192
Someone is gonna call you new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXe-jWY_3zs&ab_channel=lolbrbsoup
I saw this video a while back and wanted to see if anyone has information on what exactly the issue with the weapon was. Does anyone know if the malfunction was caused by the weapon or the ammo? I can't find more info on it.
Video background:
British soldier volunteers to fight with YPG Peshmerga against IS/ISIS/ISIL and gets to it. Gets into firefight, weapon jams as round fails to extract.
>>32030997
Bad ammunition. Looks like the case splits and gets stuck in the chamber.
>Powder made with match heads and piss.
>Primer made with amputated clits of kurdish women.
>Projectile made with hardened kidney stones of dead ISIL soldiers.
>Brass made with cornstarch and sand, spraypainted gold.
Such is life in Kurdistan.
>>32030997
no maintenance or shit ammo both are extremely possible. this fucks got a dustcover mounted scope so its clear he knows jack shit about the k
>>32030997
imagine if he had an m4/16 and had that problem he would not have been able to clear it as quickly
If you were to infect soldiers with rabies, and then unleashed them on the enemy with just their teeth and finger nails, in conjunction with regular soldiers as back up, could that give your side an edge in the battle?
>>32028262
Sounds like a one time thing, to be frank.
First, the soldiers have to get close to the enemy. Look up Banzai charges, and let me know how that works out for you.
Yes its absoloutly would! Thats why we still use swords and shit still in modern combats
http://www.nationalinsiderpolitics.com/2016/10/22/australia-admits-gun-control-failure-announces-change-direction/
Australia’s Justice Minister has all but admitted defeat and has called for an amnesty program that would enable people to turn in their illegal firearms without “fear of prosecution.” Aside from being prosecuted for wanting to arm themselves, of course.
MFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxXEPk3dzFg
The government's reaction when gun laws get pushed on for god knows how long now
The wind of change is coming.
And guns are coming with it, back to us.
>>32028673
>And guns are coming with it, back to us.
No they're not. They're really not.
MAC Cannon vs NORAD bunker
Who wins?
>>32027130
The bunker, because it's not fantasy weebshit.
>>32027140
Top Kek
>>32027140
kys famboni
Why do people hold rifles like this? It looks extremely uncomfortable.
>>32027404
Only useful if you're competition shooting and need to control the recoil to get more rounds quicker on target.
Is the rifle a Van de Graaff generator?
because they're fucking retarded Chris Costa wannabes
Sup /k/,
I know a bunch more of you guys do CAD on here. I've been working on this for the last couple of weeks and I will be sharing it soon. Post new stuff involving CAD/blueprints
>>32025832
I've got some models on here for free right now. Looking for more of the same
https://grabcad.com/oliver-137/projects
>>32025892
>>32025832
>https://grabcad.com/oliver-137/projects
Here's a repository of 3D printable stuff.
Not all of it is kosher, but can be used as a template.
Lots of models for shells,csing, brackets, rails ordinary stuff you might find useful.
https://github.com/maduce/fosscad-repo
Had to get a new computer after an unfortunate incident with a fire extinguisher. Post some stencils.
>>32024768
Ah shit mate. I would love to dump but am on my phone. Thanks for getting my boner for white guns up there. Take this bump and the few on my phone.
>>32024824
I think this is a stencil. It would work with a skilled hand and a good knife.
>>32024768
there are some decent (and not so decent) ones here
>http://imgur.com/a/0hs6h