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During the 80s while developing the MX "Peacekeeper" missile, the intention was to arrange the silos in a "dense pack" configuration. The system would work where the silos would be far away enough from each-other that one warhead couldn't kill two or more silos, but close enough that the ground burst from one warhead would blast abrasive dust into the air which would destroy additional warheads targeted at nearby silos.
The plan was eventually abandoned because the Soviets would only need to make an "easy" modification to their targeting where every warhead targeted at the field would detonate simultaneously.
To me this statement seems incredibly dumb for several reasons:
Firstly is the fact that multiple warheads must be targeted at silo to reliably kill it. Given that warheads would be required to detonate only hundreds of feet from each other the warheads would need to detonate within microseconds of each other. Prompt neutrons from adjacent detonations would possibly cause weapon fizzles at those ranges let alone the issue of the weapons being vaporised.
Second is timing. How the hell do you get your missiles to arrive within seconds of each-other let alone microseconds? Slight variations between missiles (even down to how much paint it has on it or slight temperature variations in the fuel) mean that the travel time between launch at impact will vary slightly between missiles. This problem also can't be solved with MIRVs either as MIRVs can only release warheads sequentially due to the nature in how the MIRV bus aims warheads.
Were the critics of dense pack talking out of their asses?
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bump for interest
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>Were the critics of dense pack talking out of their asses?
Yes, but that's not the point. All nuke critics talk out their asses.
That said.
By the 80s, everything about the nuclear weapons programs was primarily intended as treaty bait. You say dense pack. They say easy mods. You say something else. They counter. It's not about what was actually viable. It's about what they believed they needed to have an answer for, either on the battlefield or at the negotiating table.
And by the time the MX came around, most of these battles were being fought at the negotiating table. Dense pack didn't need to work. It just needed to look plausible enough to force a counter-move.
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>>32919225
Except that no treaties regarding dense pack basing were signed?
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Cheapest Guns Available 2017-02-08 01:54:38 Post No.32917691
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What is the cheapest gun you can find for sale? Must be in stock to count.
I got $209 right here. Who can beat this? I've heard that this specific Taurus isn't too bad.
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$99 and free shipping
>https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549889
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>https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549889
Don't buy this. I have the 9mm version and the trigger is very very difficult to operate.
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Savage Rascal. They cost about ~5 Daisy Red Ryders
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does COD Black Ops have any basis in reality?
seems like it could be based on true events
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Panama?
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my uncle was in special forces in vietnam and said his LRRP group tailed soviet advisors through the bush for 2 weeks
didnt say what they were doing
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What does /k/ think of the Schofield?
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Like all break top designs, It's a piece of shit.
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>>32917683
True but sad, because it's overflowing with style.
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>>32917748
I agree, it's aesthetic as fuck.
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GUCCI failures (also, problems with my DD5V1) 2017-02-08 01:40:35 Post No.32917520
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GUCCI failures (also, problems with my DD5V1)
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ITT, EXPENSIVE THINGS YOU BOUGHT THAT PERFORMED WELL UNDER EXPECTATION
My Story. Pic Related
>be me, getting muh first 308
>Get DD5V1 based on dat dere DD street cred (own M4V11 before this)
>Get Rugged Surge cause dat dere minimal POI shift
>Get LANCER L7 25rder cause dat dere
>__A E S T H E T I CS__
>Went to range yesterday
>MASSIVE POI SHIFT WITH RUGGED SURGE
>FtF WITH CBC NATO AND TURKISH AMMO. 100% FAILURE WITH TURK AMMO, SUPPRESSED AND UNSUPPRESSED. 50% FAILURE WITH CBC. (Gun was definitely short stroking)
>LANCER MAG DOESN'T EVEN LOCK BACK ON EMPTY
>MFW MY 6000 DOLLAROO SETUP PERFORMED WORSE THAN A POVERTY LEVEL M&P AR10
Share your stories, k/unts.
NO JUDGING, NO SOUR GRAPE. THIS IS A SAFE SPACE THREAD!.
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Have you talked to DD about it?
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>>32917535
wrote them an email today. Let's wait and see.
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>>32917520
>be gunshop employee
>always think colt is faggot brand for faggots living in a meme world
>faggot buys colt
>faggot can't into inspecting firearm before shooting
>gun shop doesn't need to inspect before selling because colt ;^)
>faggot comes back as mad faggot because his le 6920 doesn't into working :^(
>open and inspect
>faggot shit brand confirmed when pic related is the case ;^)
Glad they staked the gas key screw that wasn't even there.
Also, Colt says
>"Omg111!! So sorry it happened we will send u new BCG"
>1 month later tiny package arrives
Maybe they just sent new gas key screw
>mfw faggot shit retard brand sent new bolt
Call retard CS
>7 weeks later BCG arrives
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Bring Back the Military Glider 2017-02-08 01:35:16 Post No.32917449
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Bring Back the Military Glider
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We need to bring back the glider to enable air mobile light armor & stealth insertions of troops. Helicopters are loud as fuck, so you either end up landing hours of hiking away or you give away surprise.
See: What happened just recently in the Yemen raid. Surprise was lost, V-22 shitpile had to be destroyed because it couldn't fly away, wouldn't happen with gliders. Nor would they have suffered casualties from being outgunned if they had brought light tracked armor with them.
Gliders can be snatched up to recover them, or abandoned if necessary. Will be a hell of a lot cheaper than throwing away 100+ million dollar helicopters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgu5yh0HkgY
The problem with US airborne operations is that they physically lack the ability to deploy armored vehicles, or even deploy troops safely & steathily. Gliders can achieve that, require no lengthy development or new technology, could be built immediately.
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Derailing the shitpost here.
What happens if you mount engines on gliders, is it possible to convert them somewhat or is it really difficult to get all the avionic systems and other shit to be installed first into the glider body.
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>>32917449
>What is a deathtrap
>What are HAHO jumps
Seriously these things are worse than the ospreys. Wrong wind conditions incliment weather, bumpy landings, no ability to accelerate and manoeuvre if they come under contact.
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>>32917449
no we don't
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Slide Release vs Overhand Rack 2017-02-08 01:34:26 Post No.32917438
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Slide Release vs Overhand Rack
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So I'm in the firearms portion of my police academy and the instructors are pretty emphatic that we shouldn't use our slide releases to chamber a round. I've been shooting for a while and have never encountered a problem with this method or found it difficult at all. If this is a fine motor skill isn't pulling a trigger also one? Is this essentially fudd lore or tacticool BS?
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Fuddlore
>it produces unneeded stress on the release
Yeah, no shit, and after 10k rounds you'll probably need to replace it. That's the intention.
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theres multiple arguments both ways, such as fine and gross motor skills, consistency, ergonomics, weapon design and control placement, etc. you likely get 6 different answers from 5 different people.
tl;dr, do what works for you 99% of the time.
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>>32917438
It is not fudd lore. If you take advice from /k/ over police instructors you are retarded. Both will work but it is easier to pull a slab of metal than flick your thumb over a little lever that you may be too sweaty or shaky to hit correctly your first time
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How about instead of advocating gun rights by talking about things that don't yet exist (UN black helicopters, SHTFWROL) and exaggerating things that already exist (knockout gamers) we focus on a problem that does exist, and can only be solved by the AR15: the feral hog epidemic.
Listen. These hogs are disgusting. They are a disgrace. They are a mess. And all it would take is a few misguided /k/ommerades to take advantage of their liberal immigration laws to bus in some of these hogs from the southwest under an inappropriate named "operation mohamed drop" to create a situation that could only be solved by loosening these ridiculous "assault weapons bans" and allow some good natured hillbillies to work their magic.
Just sayin
https://youtu.be/OUvj3ZZRpco?t=2m35s
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There's only one thing needed to advocate gun rights. Say it with me.
SHALL
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Friend nabbed this last weekend. Pretty heavy and learned how to skin pig and what cuts are good.
I agree the boars need to be taken care of
>with extreme prejudice
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>>32917241
Nigga, the kind of person who wants to ban guns is also the kind of person who goes to hunting videos to bitch about how hunters are horrible people, they don't understand how fucking destructive boars are to the local ecosystem.
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Colt 1900 2017-02-08 01:05:53 Post No.32917116
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The Colt 1900 was one of Brownings first giant leaps in handgun designs and served as the cornerstone to the eventual development of the unforgettable 1911.
Introduced along with the .38 caliber it was chambered in around the turn of the century, it incorporated many design features that can be found in nearly every handgun on the market today. Production ran from 1900 to 1902 with 4,274 models being made.
As with most of Brownings designs, its absurdly simple. Taking it apart requires very little tools or time. Keep note of how familiar some of these parts look to parts found in the later 1911.
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>>32917116
that is one ugly gun
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The most distinguishable feature of the 1900 was the rear sight safety. It was flipped up and down to block the firing pin.
Later models phased this out and included new features. They are designated the 1902, 1903 and 1905.
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I prefer striker-fired
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how many enemies could one soldier take out in a close quarters firefight?
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>>32917065
Enough.
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>>32917065
About tree fiddy
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Asking for a group of friends.
What are the expected results of a war between Iran and NATO/ Coalition/ ISAF forces?
>Is Iranian armor any good?
>Is there a credible air threat?
>How is their infantry and is the Basij /Quds a larger threat than the regular army?
>Does their Navy pose a threat?
>Ballistic missile capability, especially the ones being tested and whether or not there is Iranian reticence to CBRN
All the news lately might be hinting to another flashpoint with arguably the major player in the Middle East.
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Probably roughly analogous to the Invasion of Iraq in 2003
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>>32917053
So can they be expected to surrender en masse and then wage insurgent tactics?
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>>32917018
Nothing will happen. 1 v 1, NATO(USA), would roll over Iran.
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Looking to get an SBR, but the info I read is odd
1) 7.5" barrel, pointless because it's too short and the flash will blind you
2) 10.5" barrel, pointless because an 11.5" barrel is much superior in performance and accuracy and it's only an inch longer
3) 11.5" barrel, pointless as you're only a few more inches away from a 16" barrel and then you don't need to SBR
So what barrel size is a good SBR for a 5.56 AR?
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14.5 inch milspec m4
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8.5" 300blk SBR
Why do you want an sbr? Fun? Hunting? Just because?
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>>32916882
4) 14.5" barrel, pointless because it's only 1.5" shorter then a 16". When factoring in OAL you're only saving like 5% in length
Let's make a list.
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Ruger Mark series
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They're all basically the same.
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Where you at Beretta fags?
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I fuckn ordered one. In 5-6 weeks I'll have my Leon gun.
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>>32916802
Found a place that will Cerakoat my frame grey but I don't know if I will do it. The all black setup does look just as sweet.
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>tfw too intelligent to buy from italians
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lets have a music thread. Music to operate too. ill start.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQHsXMglC9A
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>>32916703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeZL2R9jDJM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cWo2-IgMg