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https://warisboring.com/so-was-tom-clancy-right-that-the-soviets-couldve-invaded-iceland-7fc6be41c128#.wnvj4cn1x
by ROBERT BECKHUSEN

So, Was Tom Clancy Right That the Soviets Could’ve InvadedIceland?
Yeah, probably

Tom Clancy’s 1986 novel Red Storm Rising depicts a conventional war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It’s one of Clancy’s best books and, interesting for a story about a Third World War, doesn’t involve a nuclear apocalypse.

It does describe a ground war in Germany, naval and air battles in the North Atlantic and—central to the plot—an invasion of Iceland by a regiment of Soviet troops. Clancy, who died in 2013, was known for his realism and extreme attention to technical detail.

In Red Storm Rising, the Soviet troops overwhelm a U.S. Marine company in the Nordic island country after sneaking to shore inside the MV Yulius Fuchik, a civilian barge carrier loaded with hovercraft. Before the amphibious assault, Soviet missile target and destroy NATO’s F-15 fighters based at Naval Air Station Keflavik.

Iceland was an overlooked by highly strategic location in the Cold War. Were the Soviet Union’s attack submarines to break out into the Atlantic and threaten NATO shipping, neutralizing Iceland and penetrating the “GIUK gap” would be of vital importance.

But that doesn’t mean the Soviets really could’ve invaded Iceland… right?

cont.
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>>32932329

For a possible answer, let’s consult The Northwestern TVD in Soviet Operational-Strategic Planning, a 2014 report by Phillip Petersen—an expert on the Soviet and now Russian militaries for the Potomac Foundation.

In December, the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment made the report public and available on its website.

Petersen’s analysis is a revealing blueprint for how to defend Scandinavia from a Russian attack. Much of the report is comprised of military-oriented descriptions of remote rivers and sparsely-inhabited valleys—pictures included—which the word “obscure” can barely describe. Obscure, except in case of World War III.

“Faced with a predominantly sea-oriented NATO coalition dependent on control of the [sea lines of communication], there can be no question but that the Soviets would have liked to capture or at least neutralize Iceland,” Petersen wrote.

“Soviet operations against Iceland could have theoretically covered a wide spectrum of means, ranging from air and missile attacks to troop assaults.”

Supporting the theory that the USSR could have pulled off a Clancy-style surprise attack, the Soviet Union possessed the exact equipment in Red Storm Rising—reflecting Clancy’s attention to all-things hardware—suitable for landing troops in Iceland without the need for a major port.

In fact, the Soviets trained to use such repurposed “roll-on/roll-off” vessels like Yulius Fuchik for precisely those kinds of missions. Meanwhile, NATO kept its military presence in Iceland minimal because of the country’s heated political divisions over its participation in the alliance.

Iceland has not had a military since 1869.

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>>32932338

Thus, in the event of a war breaking out, NATO would have to rush troops to the island and shore up its defenses to raise the costs of, and hopefully deter, a Soviet attack.

Iceland’s remote location and ruggedness—and the Soviet Navy’s comparative weakness—meant that a surprise attack by a small and relatively light force before the Western alliance could respond was Moscow’s only feasible strategy.

The Soviet military had experience with similar operations in World War II, including deploying small teams to Norway to spy on German troops. In 2014, Russia carried out an almost-bloodless surprise attack on Crimea which occurred too quickly for Ukraine to respond.

Iceland would’ve been a far more difficult target. For one, there was the problem of distance. The country is also windy and rough, making an airborne drop an exceedingly hazardous proposition. Paratroopers might have been swept away by winds and dashed into rocks, or broken their legs upon landing.

And any Soviet operation would have faced challenges at sea. The Kremlin would have to bet on basically perfect weather and skilled navigators to make it through Iceland’s narrow fjords and around its numerous reefs.

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>>32932343

However, “even if the Soviets had attempted a lower-risk effort such as inserting a naval infantry company by submarine,” Petersen wrote, “such a force might have been sufficient to attack the Kevlavik airbase, while special-purpose (spetsnaz) forces, in teams of five to twelve men each, attacked outlying facilities like that at Hofn.”

Hofn was the site of a Cold War-era NATO radar station which tracked Soviet bombers heading south.

So the Soviets could’ve taken Iceland. Or at least caused a lot of chaos and disruption if the United States did not bolster the defenses beforehand.

But that would just be the beginning. A Soviet occupation force would probably face a NATO counter-attack, likely supported by at least one U.S. carrier battle group, without having Soviet warplanes backing them in comparable numbers—and little cover from NATO aircraft flying overhead.

Which is pretty much what happened in the fictional battle for Iceland in Red Storm Rising. NATO won.

FIN

Ok poor fag here in need of a rifle recommendation.

Here's what I'm after...pretty simple really.
-A semi auto rifle
-At least 20 round capacity
-A decent cartridge...556 Or 7.62 preferred but I can go as low as 5.7 or equal...as long as it's effective against humans.
- I need no tacticool bullshit...just a durable rifle


I would prefer the following...
- A stock solid enough to beat something to death with and if possible a bayonet or bayonet lug (although if I can add one later that's fine also). If it can carry a clean8ng rod and cleaning kit that would be nice but not a deal breaker.

IT MUST BE REASONABLE IN PRICE. Maybe 500 USD or so...

So /k/ what do I want?
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Sks
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>>32932014
>go to armslist
>put whatever shithole you come from as location
>type in AK47
>buy whatever trash shows up first from a weirdo in a taco bell parking lot
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>>32932032
I'm seriously considering an sks and a tapco mag...just thought that maybe there might be a reasonable U.S. company I could support with my money
>>32932036
Dude AK's sell for like 600 plus for a piece of shit these days...short of assembling one myself from a parts kit (i have no means of riveting it together) I don't think that would work...

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I have fallen in love with this knife
Is this normal?
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>>32931881
put it up your ass
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>>32931881
The Companion is a great knife. It's normal.
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>>32931881
How can you say you love a knife if you won't even have sex with it?

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Let's say I wanna buy a Jap gun but not one used in WWII,
what are my options? I know I can't get a Howa unless I sneak on a JSDF base and ship it to America in parts, but are there ANY Jap guns to buy in the US?
I heard of a shotgun manufacturer that works with Browning or something, Japanese made. More shit like that?
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>>32931690

I once had a police surplus Smith & Wesson 3000 shotgun. It is practically a copy of a Remington 870, but was made for S&W by Howa in Japan. Solid shotgun OP
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Howa still sells bolt actions but tbdesu I don't know shit about them and if they are made here or there.

Some of the AR18 rifles were made by Howa, I saw one on GB sometime last year for around 1500 I think.
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>>32931741
Same anon, check it out, OP.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/618924376

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Alright, /k/, we're all familiar with the .22 Loudenboomer, now where's the round at the opposite end of the spectrum? What round has the highest projectile mass and smallest charge while still being capable of causing damage to a target?
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.45 ;)
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>>32931535
The you fucking suck at threads .556 millimeter caliber fuckyou thread of shit.
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.510 whisper
A 300blk style suppressor round scaled up about as far as possible under burger laws. A 50 bmg slug in a cut down .338 lapua case. Ammo is wildcat and the guns pretty much are too. Neat idea though.

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Guys I am a 5,6 manlet with a small penis and need a carry gun that will make me feel like a man.
I currently carry either a 4 inch sp101 in 357 Magnum (muh q shot stop percentage) or a Beretta 92. ,(muh recognizable action movie gun with high capacity)

Now I recently was diagnosed with erectile dysfunction and now I feel the need for something more powerful. I am thinking 44 Magnum carry guns!
Currently I am considering the Smith and Wesson model 69. It is an L frame so should be easier to carry. Any other 44 Magnum carry options?
>inb4 deagle
I hate those things, they are unreliable, and are too big.
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>charter arms bulldog: .44 special only
>charter arms boomer: .44 special
>smith and wesson 629 stealth hunter
>smith and wesson model 69
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if you wanna feel like a man, wear a leather vest with gun pockets inside the vest can carry almost anything, just don't make the barrel to long,

it looks bad ass
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>>32931396
Get a Jericho aka BabbyDeagle
Or get something in 10mm

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Let's honor the East Coast getting slammed with snow by having a comfy ATF thread. Post 'em if ya got 'em
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>>32931205
I'm not getting out of bed to take a pic. But, you're drinking bourbon like me, so you get a reply. Cheers. Can't wait to get up tomorrow and shovel more snow.
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>>32931205

> Total snowfall amounts of 20 to 30 cm are expected. Strong northeasterly winds gusting to between 80 and 100 km/h will give extensive reduced visibilities in blowing snow.

Gonna be cleaning my guns all day, fuck work. Can't make it from where I'll be.

Wheee.
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Texas coast here, it was in the low 80's today. Enjoying my sunshine and some barrel aged local rum.

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We all know the MG42 had the nickname 'Hitler's Buzzsaw' given by the Allies. Did the Germans have any nicknames for Allied weapons like the Thompson and Bren?
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>>32931201

They called the DP 28 the Plattenspieler , or Turntable in English, because of it's pan magazine.
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>pic related was nick-named "the woodpecker"

>Corsair was nicknamed "the whistling death"

>Aal, German for eel, was a slang term for torpedoes

>Bola: German slang term for flexible gun mounts on bombers

>Hummel, German for bumble bee, referred to a mobile artillery piece

>Jabo, german slang for fighter-bomber aircraft

>Luchs, german for lynx, referred to the Panzer II

>Ronson: name given by the British to the Sherman. It refers to the lighter company due to the Sherman's tendency to explode or catch fire upon being shot at.

>Flugpanzer (flying tank) and Schwarzer Tod (black death), referred to the Soviet IL-2 fighter plane
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>>32931201
They called most US weapons scheiße

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Looking to get my first handgun soon, and I saw the makarovs on SOG going for $300, song with the holster. Should I get it as my first pistol? Namely looking for something that is cheap to feed and reliable.
Also as an 18y/o in Cook county, I need to have a parent sign off on it or something? Already went though this a while ago with a long rifle, but I'm not sure how it'd work with pistols.
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>under 21
need to be a gift or private sale
>Makarov
>$300
>$.20 per
Just go get a canik tp9 or one of those polymer frame EAA cz clones.
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Makarovs are stolen German designs. This thread is rightful deutsch clay
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>>32931281

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Has there ever been a vehicle as heavily armored as a tank but armed only with ATGM's?
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>>32931077
"pereh"
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Some '60s missile tanks were as heavily armoured as contemporary tanks,
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>>32931077
>>32931191
If you were curious what he named is an Israeli missile carrier built out of the hull of a Magach-5 and disguised as a normal tank. Carries a box launcher holding 12 Spike ATGM's and even has a dummy main gun to fool goat herders. Dumb thing was classified until 2015.

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I need a squirrel gun as a backup to my fishing pole for a trip this summer. I'm thinking pic related. I've never owned a gun before, but I've hunted a little and I'm a pretty good shot. Weight is a priority, I'm not afraid of bears.
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>>32931025
10/22 Takedown

They're slightly less portable, but are actually decent-working rifles.
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>>32931025
>32931047
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>>32931047
The Ruger 10/22 Charger Takedown with an arm brace would be as effective and more compact than a standard 18" rifle

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/k/ is also brother to /out/, so the two of you garner similar respect.

If you are a Traddie-aussie, an anon is vetting other anons to work and build a project on his property to form a community. If you are interested, you could come work and live in the community and get your own piece of land.

If interested, inquire.

Aussies only! If you're skilled, you're wanted!
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>>32930815
Bump, we've got lots of interested anons.
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this is a bump, you've been bumped.
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>>32930815

HM

THAT ISN'T SUSPICIOUS AT ALL

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Is this accurate?
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>>32930686
>Guns for people with money

>Guns for poorfags
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>>32930686
>Colt Snakegun in tactical dipshit category

You can fuck right off OP, Dropped.
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>>32930737
only because of walking dead.

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>""On October 8, Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir authorized the assembly of thirteen 20-kiloton nuclear warheads on Jericho missiles and F-4s, which were prepared for action against Syrian and Egyptian targets"
>mfw Cairo and Damascus almost got glassed

What's your favorite "We almost started a nuclear war" moment?
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>>32930637
>implying glassing Cairo and Damascus would've been a bad thing.
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>>32930658
I'm not implying it would be. :^
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>May 23rd, 1967
>NORAD BMEWS radar stations in Greenland and the northern US go dark
>Military interprets this as indication of a Soviet nuclear strike and begins making preparations for retaliation
>Just a few days earlier, on May 18th, NOAA's Solar Forecasting Center put out a prediction for a major series of solar flares to occur anytime within the next 36 hours, with a coronal mass ejection to be expected to come close to Earth, if not hit us.
>SFC scientists were able to confirm that it was, in fact, a CME that knocked out the BMEWS
>Missiles and bombers were within hours of launching
>Mfw the sun almost started a nuclear war

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I can not get the spring back in the notch. What the fuck. It keeps piping out.

Please help
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It's backwards
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>>32930610
Get stronger hands.
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Its in backwards, put the flat part of the rod in that notch.

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