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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>1.70 and prior versions changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Discussion:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Chat server back online:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19535#107

>Previous Thread
>>17586400

Current Version: Elona+ 1.70 (7/24/2017)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.70.1

Try setting the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7 if you encounter errors.
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Who is your character? Not just stats but their story/motivations/relationships.
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>>17605964
The profile backstory generation is pretty good for that, a character sheet should tell you a fair bit.
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>>17605963
Its good to have a teleportation rod in your inventory to deal with annoying NPCs standing in your way and certain enemies.
Except for obviously useful stuff like domination and wish rods, it all depends of your playstyle. For example, I also carry mana rods with me because I burn my MP it a lot.
You can recharge rods with two special actions you unlock eventually, so you don't need to carry multiple copies of them like you do with scrolls and potions (though both of them have spells/effects that you won't find in rods).
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>>17605964
My character was an old but smart wiseman who thought he deserved to be the town's elder. He was a pretty resourceful person. If something went wrong he always found a way to make profit and if something went really wrong he used his simple knowledge in magic to put his enemies to sleep. And so he set forth in a journey to become indispensable for the townsfolk. He learned magic and run errands here and there knowing that the villagers would find his resolve useful. His overconfidence and greed was what caused him to die. Overburdened and tired, a hungry demon got the best of him.

Now I rolled an overprotective farmer mom. Holy shit the little girl is a psycho.
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>>17606013
That's a nice face. What portrait set are you using?
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>>17606013
how are you training your attributes? I feel like mine are low, seeing others
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>shitposted my heart out last thread
>didnt make it into op image
d*ng it
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>>17605964
They're a cute angel (male) who fell to earth in an accident and are trying their best to survive in the mortal world while also trying to impress Kumiromi-senpai. He just seems so sad all the time so my character is determined to find a way to cheer them up.
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>>17606043
I make portraits myself by cropping art. I made the sprite with parts from multiple others

>>17606046
Always keep potentials above superb, eat herbed food, efficiently train skills. I think mine are kinda low actually. I've since started playing a new character and am quickly overtaking the one I posted
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>>17606069
how does the herbed food thing work?
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>>17606073
-blend herbs with food in a fusion pot
-eat food
-get a lot of exp in all ur attributes
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>>17606073
They added a feature to share food (cooked rank 5+ only), giving the same boost to both eaters. Since herbing food adds the herb trait (trains every stat -luck) to the food, you can get twice the benefit for the cost of one rare herb. Herbed curaria also gives a massive boost, but you can't share it.
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>>17606082
>>17606086
and I guess a healthy supply of herbs is up to farming?
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does the herbed food quality change anything? (is an herbed apple the same as an herbed hamburger?(other than the base stat gains of the apple and the burger being different?))
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"magical field prevents from teleportation"

huh ?
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>>17606097
I think the bonus stat training from being herbed is independent of the food quality and flatly added on top, but I don't have the numbers to back this up
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>>17606102
some monster closeby has an ability which is preventing it, you have to kill them to stop it
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>>17605964
This dude. Proficient in martial arts, throwing grenades/panties and despite being 25 feet tall he's extra sneaky and likes to teleport to things that need smashing.

I made him after I got jelly to my fire dragon pet on my mage's file.
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>>17606102
Or location itself forbids teleportation (for example pyramid and jail).
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>>17606124
He is probably equipped with a piece of equipment that prevents teleportation
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>>17606102
Or you wear artifact "of silence". (has "it prevents you from teleporting" attribute)
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>>17605964
An aspiring mage who lost an eye in an incident that was a mixture of an unfortunate accident and setup. But sometime after heading into South Tyris, he forgot all about this and his goal of getting strong enough to mess up whoever was responsible for it. Often solves problems with copious amounts of violence. Travels with a young girl (well, she was a young girl at the start, she's a lot older than that now) who got dragged into this world during a mistaken magical experiment, and they've stuck together ever since then. Somewhere along the line, the two of them got married, and are happily turning everything they see in dungeons into fine red mists together.
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>>17605964
>roleplaying careless but good natured hothead thief
>One-life mode.
I'm gonna die soon, am I not?
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>>17606193
https://pastebin.com/EdZjcgPf
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mfw some random miner in vernis drinks potion and tranition into being a female nurse.
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>>17606278
Adventurers have much greater resistance to mutation potions than the common folk.
At least they seem to stay sound of mind after being mutated.
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>>17606278
h-hote...
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>>17606066
This is cute

I like this

pic related for when you finally make his heart go doki doki
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What the fug?!
How do people even know I'm pickpocketing if there's literally no one to see me?
Is this Oblivion or what?
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>>17606278
mfw said nurse attacks me for whatever reason and gets shot by vendor i invested in.
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>>17606420
It makes noise, so people can hear you through walls.
You're only completely safe if nobody is inside the sight radius, visible or not.
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>>17606420
In case you try in the wilderness nearby monsters count, a skeleton or rabbit can and will report you to the authorities
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Are there any unowned fountains like there are a few altars?
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im gene engenering slaves into my little girl but none of those shmucks have cooking skill. where do i get it ?
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>>17606534
rogue wizard has it
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>>17606534
I think one of the "sheep type" enemies have cooking for some reason. You can discover the weirdest things with scrolls of ally and a gene machine.
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The Monstergirl no cameos sheet is meant to have no anime etc characters, right? It still has Iskander from Fate/Zero.
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what level gardening is required for a sustainable herb garden?
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>>17606534
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Easy_Gene_Engineering
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>>17606611
You get best odds at 41 gardening onwards, assuming you always plant and harvest in the rain.
Odds of regrowth will always be worse when harvesting when it's not raining until you get Kumiromi's Scissors, a late game item.

Aside from that, your herb farming really depends much more on your supply of herb seeds, so Kumiromi Statues (for herb seeds) and Kumiromi's gem stones (for reviving dead plants). Once you have earned these items you can get duplicates from the Little Sister quest.
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>>17605964
He is generic self-insert adventurer. His troubled past is that he started at level 1. Truly, he was dealt a bad hand at birth.
His motivation is to get to level 9999.
He has a budding Roran entourage. Their motivations are to enforce the superior master race. And also get the player to level 9999. But in order to do that, they'll have to outpace him first to ensure his safety and their self interests.
Of course, generic adventurer doesn't really know or care about anything else but grinding to become the strongest adventurer, like no one ever was.
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>>17606674
where can I get these character profiles
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>>17606679
informer in town > investigate one of my allies
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>>17606681
I mean uh, the profile pictures. Like the faces I mean, my bad.
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>>17606699
http://scrapiuna.blogspot.nl/2013/11/blog-post.html
Remember that you can also always make your own out of any art
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>>17606699
oh
probably a portrait pack in the pastebin
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>>17606704
Ok cool, so how do I install all this? Just drag and drop? I've really got no idea where to start.
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>>17606723
https://pastebin.com/uAVqeTbz
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I am having a bit of trouble with the pet AI. Left is my oldest pet and right is some random fairy I recently started training. My little girl seemed to ignore orders so I gave them the same simple commands to see what's up.

When encountering a monster the fairy starts to frenetically go back and forth, she acts as expected. The little girl doesn't give a shit about what I say, she always runs up to it and beats it to death regardless. Please don't tell me she broke or something.
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>>17606801
No entities checked for in 3-5.

>Alright, Player is 3 spaces away from me I'll walk towards him and be 2 spaces away.
>Ok I'm not 1 space away from him so I'll ignore that.
>What's next....ok well fuck I'll do whatever. I'm going to charge down that enemy bitch
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa
>Wait one second monsterkun I need to check my AI orders. I'm greater than 1 space away from the player. Let me move one space towards him and I'll get right back to you since I can ignore order 2.
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How can I get an altar? I've got hundreds of flying scrolls but game always says they're too heavy to pickpocket and get in my inventory.
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>>17606842
You can find one in some of the story dungeons.

>>17605078
Press * on the numpad on the instructions you want to swap.
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>>17606859
>Press * on the numpad on the instructions you want to swap.
This changes EVERYTHING
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>>17606859
>Press * on the numpad on the instructions you want to swap.
Holy shit!
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>>17606859
>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4
>ctrl-f "*"
>1 result
>"The maximum energy for any specific ability is 5 * (stamina cost/10), with a cap of 20."
>ctrl-f "asterisk"
>0 results
>nothing related at all
>not even in the comments
How did you find this out? It isn't documented anywhere.
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>>17606876
Read about it somewhere, forgot it existed until I needed it, then kept pressing buttons until one of them did what I wanted.
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>>17606859
>Press * on the numpad on the instructions you want to swap.

WHAT
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>>17606830
I thought they would ignore them if they were incomplete, since re-initialize actions does just that. Still, don't they have to prioritize orders each turn?

>are 1's conditions true?
>yes
>move
>next turn
>are 1's conditions true?
>no
>are 2's conditions true?

And so on. Anyways I set up everything else to No Set to make both of them identical and the same thing keeps happening.
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>>17606882
Anything other ancient arcane secrets you can tell us please?
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>>17606895
yeah if u type "im gay" in the chat u get a secret item, try it adn see
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>>17606904
holy shit!!?
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>>17606893
Do you have Preserve Entity As Target set for moving toward/away from the player?
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>>17606904
BIG IF TRUE
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>>17606909
Yeah, same for both of them.
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>>17606876
They check each line regardless of true and false and cycle through each line once the last statement is read.
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>>17607115
This meant for >>17606893
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>>17605964
I'm a big guy
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>Roll "Hammer Threat" as Alias.
>Decide to stop making weaklings such as wizardshits and pussyl iches and make a real tank dwarf warrior.
>Rogroth Hammer Threat is born
>Some of the characters I created didn't even make it to the town, having barely enough to eat and running away from wild beasts.
>Rogroth Hammer Threat strolls all the way to the town stopping on each step on the map, slashing through hordes of kobolds, giant crabs, thieves and all sorts of monsters.
>Other characters arrive to the inn and ask for a meal.
>Rogroth Hammer Threat walks in, puts a dead kobold on the stove and eats it, even though it's poisonous.
>Then, without uttering a single word to anyone in the town, sets forth for the nearest dungeon.
Holy shit I just played the chaddest character of my life.
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>>17607201
i'd make a "the virgin warmage/the chad dwarf" meme if i wasnt lazy
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That's weird. The game just crashed on me for the first time in months while shuffling through my inventory trying to decorate my house.

>HspError 13 WinError 32 Ver 2950 Mode 0
>efId 619 efP 2220 Area 7/1
>ci -1#128 ti -1#128 cc 0#0 tc 0#0 rc -1
>3. main_init:Begin ct:245
>2. main_init:End ct:0
>1. pc_turn_init ct:0
>0. com_inventory2/0 ct:0
>* rc is below 0

>Sorry.
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>>17607249
Do you have ElonaExtender? The "backup on any save" option (instead of just "backup on save & exit") is a bit bugged, every now and then it crashed my game, giving me a similar error message.
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>>17607281
I do not, I just back my saves up by hand.
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>>17607227
nevermind im doing it anyway
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Had a rod of wishing on me so I decided to have a little fun. Wanted to know how a god would do deep down in the void. Summoned Ehekatl thinking that she would scale but she did not. While the monsters around her were lv 6,666 she was only lv 350. One carbuncle was enough to take her on and win. When she was in inner god form she ended up aggroing the entire void floor with mewmew and eventually Ragnarok occured. Unlike Ehekatl, the dragons and other creatures were scaled up to lv 6,666. Took me awhile to kill the creatures that appeared due to all that HP they had but it was all for naught since Ehekatl just kept triggering more Ragnaroks. The enemies were having issues just reaching Ehekatl and Ehekatl wasn't doing much damage to the enemies in the void. Eventually I had enough of all these dragons and giants flooding into the void. Decided to put Ehekatl down and princess carry her out of the void.

To think I had the idea of summoning all 8 of them at once in the void. The Ragnaroks wouldn't end I imagine.
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Gonna try a magic character for the first time. Should I go with Elea as the pastebin suggests, or is it worth it to go for the more specialized races like Fairy or Lich? Also any other advice for starting a new wizard I should know?
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>>17607201
>>17607227
>>17607329
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>>17605964
Accidentally created golem after guild of wizards that did not know right from wrong blew up their golem factory they set up in a dungeon.
Residual energy/magic after a while bundled up and gave life to my character who slumbered for 500-ish years.
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>>17607385
Kek. Nice.
Dayum, I was doing one too
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>>17607407
do it anyway
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>>17607355
Poor Ehekatl, bullied to death by a "puny" void-engineered carbuncle.
>and princess carry her out of the void
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I'm preaching in the Machine Dome, converting the people there to Ehekatl, while Mani himself is standing in the next room over.
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>>17607385
this gave me a good chuckle I tells ye
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>>17607355
So Kai is your party done or are you going to add more pets?
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>>17607439
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>>17607355
>Decided to put Ehekatl down and princess carry her out of the void
Nice.
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>>17607471
He seems to be more concerned with his crush.
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>>17607439
Convert him too while you are at it.
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>>17607385
Done. Stole your shield joke because it was to fun.
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>>17607484
>god has a crush on another god

C U T E
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>>17605964
I used to think of this, but then I've been lazy and just been considering using vidya gaem characters so I have ideas of pets to use.

Need to start my Velvet run proper again, from Tales of Berseria, and have my starter little girl as Magilou.
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>>17607495
yours is a lot better than mine tbqh
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>>17607355
I haven't ever played elona plus. Why doesn't mewmewmew instagib everything? Do they have too much HP?
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>>17607492
He was not amused.
I think I'm going to need more Faith for this.
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>>17607532
NO MORE
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my game keeps intermittently freezing at the part where I design my character's appearance what do?
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>>17607597
You make sure the custom files you were planning on using are actually the right filetype
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>>17607608
All I'm using is Elonaplus and Elona Custom

http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/
https://mega.nz/#!txBSyDxQ!CB-S175ZQvzF0DBAEVFbGLzIeTSjT2yfztIRfTH1qCk
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>>17607518
Last time I used it in debug mode, Mewmewmew! did exactly 99,999 damage to everything.
Note the log in the screenshot. Multiple critical hit punches doing 800K+ damage each. 461,576 melee damage "slightly wound"s the enemy.
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>>17607484
>>17607502
He doesn't have a crush on him. He really doesn't know what's wrong with her.
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>>17607458
Party is done. Kai has 4 pets that regularly help him out. Don't have the willpower to bring up a 5th pet as it took me quite awhile to make the 4 I have void capable.

I haven't run out of pet ideas though. One pet idea I had on the back burner was having my own interpretation of the wish goddess accompany us. She'd be a Roran in a white summer dress wearing a small chalkboard like a necklace. Being the wish goddess made manifest in Irva, it can be dangerous to speak whatever comes to mind because it will be made real. So to help prevent that yet still express herself, she writes stuff down on her little chalk board and holds it out for us to read. Probably would need to make my own sprite of her and make heavy use of a talk file to express all of that.

As for how she would attack enemies, I would love it if all it took was for her to open her mouth and say some word to cause catastrophic damage to the enemy or wipe them from existence. Maybe have to use a talk file for that or see if the dojo can let an unarmed or magic attack do something similar. No idea if that's possible though.
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The Chad dwarf died after getting ambushed by several strong monsters. He killed most of his enemies but the last one got too lucky.
Now this is the next roll I got.
The knight is the little girl.
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>>17606066
This character is actually very new and I finally booted up the game again and got to the first town. I have since been joined by a hapless mortal adventurer. Surely this will go well.
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Guys, can you recommend me a good mod with improved graphic on the last version of game.
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>>17607678
>it can be dangerous to speak whatever comes to mind because it will be made real. So to help prevent that yet still express herself, she writes stuff down on her little chalk board and holds it out for us to read.

>As for how she would attack enemies, I would love it if all it took was for her to open her mouth and say some word to cause catastrophic damage to the enemy or wipe them from existence.
You enjoyed Kore wa Zombie Desu Ka, didn't you?
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>>17607809
Younger Sister Pack.
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>>17607817
I'd say the best graphics pack is the one you make yourself. It's a bit of work upfront, but then you get to include what you think is the best from each existing pack.
Elona has more or less been the reason I know everything that I know about GIMP
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>>17607817
Is that where that concept came from? I vaguely remember a long time ago someone telling me about some character and thought the concept behind it was neat at least.
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I read the new player pastebin

im scared
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>>17607879
The best way to learn is by playing.
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>>17607724
>Make strong independent guardian crusader to save you from bosses.
>Raid several dungeons together, defeat bosses and enemies.
>He dies by falling into a well and drowning.
Well shit.
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>>17607952
Why did you drink from my well?
I had just finished refilling it with [cursed younger sister vomit].
Now I can't take this year bath, I'm upset.
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>>17607871
The female lead doesn't talk or show much emotion if possible because whatever she says has the ability to happen and emotional outbursts cause other disastrous effects. She communicates by writing things on a notepad usually. (although she's not the only or even remotely first character to communicate through writing things or even to have horrible voice powers [e.g. Marvel's Black Bolt])

It's pretty much the exact concept you have, yes. Even her saying something like the word "die" is enough to kill everything within 'audible' range.
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>>17607871
>>17608231
It's a pretty common anime trope to be honest, I remember a girl from NEEDLESS did it.
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>>17608231
>>17608248
I see. Thanks for the heads up on that. Reminds me that I really should go through my backlog of anime I promised myself I'd watch but haven't gotten around to.
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>>17608004
>cursed younger sister vomit
Has science gone too far?
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>>17605762
Your character got heavily exposed to the etherwind during the intro. He developed chronic problems.

>>17606581
Maybe the guy didn't see or know him.

>>17606859
>>17605954
That sort of info should be in the pastebin. Please remember to backlink this kind of thing to the OP.
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>>17608290
What's the ai of your pets?
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>>17608536
Top left and right are my vanguard and top damage dealers Saya and Akeno. Both of them use martial arts and buff themselves before seeking out enemies to kill. Akeno has one extra command that provokes enemy so that they mainly attack her. Isn't a problem due to her having the metal bitflag and since all the monsters get fury we do more damage to them.

Mai is my witch that acts as healer and AOE support. I have her set to heal if people start falling below 90% HP. She can comfortably do this due to the amount of MP she has. Before it was set to a much lower percentage. Her main duty is healing and she rarely gets the chance to cast magic storm. If an enemy gets close to her she'll poke them with the piledriver. Last pet is an archer. Nothing really special about her AI. Having her learn zeroshoot though.

I know I can make my AI for my party members more robust but for now, this simple setup has worked well for me. Nobody is dying and my pets are helping me kill things quicker.
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>>17608675

better just trade in ap for zero shoot?

For the pet
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>>17608721
That definitely would be the right thing to do however sadly Mina is very close to AP cap if not there already. I can't really refund anything because I pretty much used all her AP for bonus points. I have to learn it the slow way with her. I learned about the AP cap a bit too late with her.
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How often enemy buff themselves in higher levels?
I'm curious if Megid Flame is something almost mandatory or just a very useful bonus, considering it apparently is a rare special action.
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>>17608833
Mainly seen them use fury/rampage/etc, boost, and bound in blood if they have access to it. Think the Arktouros can cast hero but rarely does it. Knight of Elea can cast speed. Magic Archer can cast concentration but rarely does it. They sure love their debuffs/hexes though and those can last for a very long time and can be crippling. Element scar, nightmare, silence, mist of frailness, and slow are favorites of theirs. Also like special actions.
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>Elona+ 1.71 changelog
>egg weight effect on prices has been nerfed

Welp, time to avoid posting neat tricks and tips in this thread.
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>>17609082
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:26639
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>>17609082
Do we have a snitch in this thread telling Ano to shut it down? Remember, the thieves guild says snitches get stitches.
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>>17609082
>>17609090
>Reduced the effect of materials and equipment attributes on equipment prices.
So who's gonna bite the bullet and find out how bad it is?
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>>17609090
Jesus christ, those are some massive changes to equipment crafting.
This may be one of the most mechanically complex updates we've had in a while, and hopefully looks like it'll make getting Miracle items of uncommon base types less painful.
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>>17609090

You can now talk to guards hired at your home to kick out an NPC. Pets, NPCs hired by you, and adventurers cannot be selected. The ones that you can kick out include guests that don't seem to want to go away, monsters spawned from spellbook reading failures, and inner gods. The time for guards to actually do their job has come!
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>>17609259
A guard can kick out an inner god? Hot damn how powerful is this guard?
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I as wondering why I was stuck at !Burden for awhile.

Part of me wants to keep this thing around for a item quest or something, but I never see NPCs ask for shits nowadays
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>>17609287
Guards have a secret skill called asking nicely, something that adventurers unfortunately can't learn due to their murderous habits.
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>>17609090
[New gauge attacks for each ammo type]

magnum: Inverts the target for 2 turns if the target is not already Inverted

bullet: lowers PV (this is 75% as effective as Pulverization)

energy cell: line attack. Blinds target for 2 turns if target is not already blinded for more than 2 turns. Colour of the visual effect depends on the element that the user has the most resistance against.

bolt: Paralyzes target for 2 turns if target is not already Paralyzed for more than 2 turns. Also has a chance to decapitate.

arrows: 3x3 tile area-of-effect attack. Applies 2 turns of Wince if target is not already Wincing.
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>>17609090
The real question is whether to update now or wait for the inevitable bugfix patch.
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>>17609551
We gotta wait for custom anyway.
>>17609505
Trying to teach concentration to my dragon loli, I feel your pain
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>>17609505
Taught Shadow Step to my Valkyrie and then tag teamed her with my Defender.
Holy shit I love this custom shit.
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>>17609082
>The equipment attribute that protects you from thieves will now work against Scavenge like it works against getting pickpocketed.
I imagine this means no more food getting stolen? Thank god, I lost like 50 herb seeds I had on me when I went into the void once.
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>>17609757
why were you carrying 50 herb seeds around in the abyss?
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>>17609827
Why not? I have the space, not like I'm using it for anything else.
I carried Kumiromi statues with me too, now I just stuff everything in the 4-D pocket.
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>>17609895
>Why not?
because they'll get scavenged by hungry sea lions
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>>17609904
Mine got stolen by some shitty hamster, I play a mage character so usually nothing gets a chance to steal from me, I just wanted to take advantage of the high hp, high regen of the hamster to train some attributes.
But instead I lost all my seeds, all my herbed food, everything.
Now I just instantly focus on and kill those fuckers as soon as I see them.
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Does anyone have a picture of all the tile types for house decorating? The ingame one is too tiny, and I'd rather ask if someone made one already so I don't have to.
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>>17607678
Why is there two itzpalts?
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>>17607597
This is happening to me too.
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>>17609090
>Nurse, fallen soldier, thief/robber evolutions
>Upgrading gear type/changing equipment class, crafting random artifacts, rerolling rare items
I am going to start hoarding materials+gain material scrolls until 1.71 hits. And it's going to be my nurse's lucky day as well
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>>17610110
I've never had this happen, my guess would be it is somehow having trouble reading the portrait/sprite files. Similar to how if you try to use something with the wrong dimensions/color space information, opening the appearance menu crashes the game.
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>>17610144
But I've never changed anything relating sprites and the like
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>>17610148
Do you run the game from a USB or external HD or something?
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>>17605954
why the html doe?
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>>17610152
I'm using a laptop
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>>17610174
Where is your game folder at
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>>17610195
D
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>>17610207
You tried moving it to a different drive? Try a fresh install? (keep your character by copying the sav file). Could also try using only E+ and see if that changes anything
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Holy shit, you can complete Party Time! quests by preaching.
I wish I had known this sooner, so much missed gold and platinum...
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>>17605954
Anyone playing on multiple saves? How do you manage your time with them?
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>>17610350
I got a nasty habit of cheating whenever I can slither my way into a game, so whenever the urge hits me I switch out to my 3rd character to bullshit around.
Somehow the 2nd character I use for testing that's in wizard mode just doesn't scratch the itch at all.
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Name my character.
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>>17610350
Me, I've got four. What ends up happening is no matter how much I loved my previous character with 100s hours invested, I spend all my time on the new one. Switching back and forth in lategame would involve too much stuff to keep track of. Now that I'm playing on loss mode, the older ones are to fall back on
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>>17610426
Bonezilla.
Bonelord
Bonetobewild
Stubbone
Bone
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>>17609090
>The equipment type of the piece of equipment used as the ingredient will be changed to another one in the same category.
>All equipment attributes including those intrinsic to the equipment type will be conserved.
So you could turn a chainsickle into a scythe or sickle, or a whip into a staff or longstaff? And I guess stone fans (if there are any) could turn a panty into a stone.
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>>17610426
Talus
Patella
Thorax
Clavicus
Humerus
Vomer
Palatine
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>>17610426
Bones
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>Buy shitton of storage houses
>Build them in a path between cities
>Bandit/Ambush free path
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>>17610480

alternative option, murder their entire party in cold blood and eat their remains to deter any other bandits
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>>17610471
>>17610470
>>17610441
I may switch to Humerus or Bonezilla depending on how I progress.
It's gonna be good. I can feel it in my bones.
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>>17609090
>You could also change equipment to a type that has a better intrinsic equipment attribute or sell price then use it in the equip making recipe.
So, you can turn random boots into seven league boots, and then reroll them so they have the +travel effect?
>This is available in early game, but it's rather expensive in terms of materials. Being rich can somewhat help though.
I guess seven league boots might still be a good wish for a newbie whose little girl drank from a well, though? Just how hard is it to make materia, anyway?
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What are some good Astral Light Pen targets?
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Is an electric cloud worth keeping around, or just gene fodder?
Got one through a scroll of ally.
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>>17607840
Can you give please a direct link.
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>>17610670
Gwen so you can complete your roran harem.
Yacatect so you can have her as your shopkeeper.

>>17610797
Nothing special about them, I guess. They are basic magic users.

>>17610806
Mod pastebin on OP.
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>>17610797
You can make any pet strong so if you like it, any pet can become worth keeping, but some things to keep in mind:
-some may have bitflags (traits specific to the creature) that you can't add otherwise, like bells having the damage-reducing metal flag
-if it uses breath and doesn't have control magic, you will get friendly fire
-same for ball spells
-it might have few/shitty limbs or bad life/speed (possible to fix with scientist+sister quest)
-it may only have a few skills (although you can remedy that with gene engineering)
-pets that can evolve have an extra incentive to get them, check the list on wiki
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Imagine if Elona had full multiplayer, it'd be so cool.
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>>17610919
imagine waiting for other players who have 5 times more speed than you and just gone afk

it's be so cool.
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>>17610954
It could be done like how Tomenet does it
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>>17610919
Nah it would be a nightmare because of the reaction time and connection problems.
I see an Ascend: hand of Kul+ Dragon's Dogma-ish system working though.
>You can summon other people's companions for a fee.
>While going outside, there are random events where you may find another player's home.
>You can invade it, raid it or just casually chat with the player, as you're sharing the same map in different "dimensions" (not really together)
>You get to fight through a player-made dungeon and kill player-made servants.
>The final boss is an AI controlled avatar of the player or a designated boss
Now THIS would be fucking neat.
But still not as cool as meaningful AI interaction and b/romance and nemesis system.
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>>17610962
I mean that's definitely cool and all but then I wouldn't be able to roleplay like the autist I am.

>But still not as cool as meaningful AI interaction and b/romance and nemesis system.

This would be good also though.
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>>17611002
>Invade house.
>Player set up a series of events, traps and npcs that may demand quests or be hireable
>You may spawn at a dungeon map full of enemies, an arena where you have to fight to the end or a wizard academy where people may give you wizard-related quests such as casting a high level spell or winning a magic duel.
It would be a HUGE expansion pack by itself.
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>>17611037
Sounds a lot like >>17610962's idea and when you put it that way it does seem pretty neat.

Other than multiplayer though the main thing I want is more in-depth AI behavior and Mount and Blade type stuff where NPCs can do their own crazy shit even if you don't.
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>>17607201
Ok, you made me want to play as warrior again.
Well, my first character was a Juere warrior, but she ended up being quite shoddy at fighting stuff and just shot at enemies most of the time, I probably fucked up somehow.
The Elea warmage that I made seems strong, being able to wreck shit with magic missile.
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>>17610962
>open game
>see your wife in the corner of your house, on low HP and high insanity
>interacting with her gives the message "Raphael the Aged Pleasure hired [wife]! She brought back 3000 gold, [wife] blood and panties -10!"
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>>17611205
>not whipping and leashing your wife before sleep
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>>17610962
I'd be fine with some adventurers being other players' characters.
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died.
dropped Yacatect's gem stone in the dungeon. dungeons reset.
tried changing gods.
only got a cure corruption from Yacatect.
help.
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>>17605964
He got bored and decided to travel. That's what started the mess. Ever since he had just been stumbling around Tyris helping out with town errands, talking to people, and getting drawn in WAY over his head. He has absolutely no aptitude for book magic, but tries to be prepared for any situation by carrying items that could be relevant to even the most unlikely situations.
His current ties are the little girl who claimed to know him then held a knife to his throat when he tried to say she was mistaken, a military putit mercenary with ptsd he recruited, a golem he built that is trying to figure out what it means to be alive, and a Defender that is trying to manage the insanity the others create without yanking his hair out.
Current goal is to gain all the god artifacts to build a giant altar to Jure to present to her as a gift when he finally converts back to her during the festival in Noyel.
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http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)
>shoes -> boots -> heavy boots -> composite boots -> tight boots -> armored boots -> seven league boots -> shoes -> [loop]
>decorative ring -> engagement ring -> ring -> armored ring -> composite ring -> aurora ring -> speed ring -> decorative ring -> [loop]
One less reason to visit Noyel.


>>17611358
Siscon scientist in cyber dome may have it in her inventory, if you rescued enough little sisters to get a reward from her.
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>You can now talk to guards hired at your home to kick out an NPC. Pets, NPCs hired by you, and adventurers cannot be selected.
>The ones that you can kick out include guests that don't seem to want to go away, monsters spawned from spellbook reading failures, and inner gods.
>The time for guards to actually do their job has come!
Fucking finally.
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>>17609090
>Reduced the effect of materials and equipment attributes on equipment prices.

on the one hand shops are now worthless but now you can actually buy cool shit from random vendors and black market
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>>17611443
Also balanced eggs a bit, now weight has a x8 multiplier on price rather than x20.
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What is the best way to gain Kumiromi's favor until I can get a farm?
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what the hell am i supposed to do with all those veggies and fruits i grow on farm i cooked it but my freezer holds only a bit of them. theres no containter ?
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>>17611530
Complete puppy quest to get the cooler box as a reward, put corpses you find in your adventures inside of it (the heavier the better) so they won't rot before you find an altar.
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>>17611555
Oh, thanks then!
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>>17611534
Stop roleplaying as an cannibal and start eating them, or at least share/give them to your pet(s).
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Testing out the new item creation. It seems that weapons and gear you used to be able to craft (such as lightsabers, spears, etc) are gone from the carpentry and tailoring menus, but now you can craft ANY type of equipment from pot for fusion, so long as you got a copy of the original equipment type. The reign of spears as the best two-handers are now over! Also, the quality still varies, so it's possible to get the good ol' godly time-stop living weapon if you can afford the materium and stardust to craft them.

I'm actually really happy with this change. The multiple artifacts per craft helps offset the ingredient requirements, and the higher skill level + the ingredients themselves means you can't start rolling out good quality lightsabers and spears early in the game. The fact you can create ANY item now is the best part. Kai can now make a super bow for his archer, the dorfs here can eventually craft an axe, rather than having to settle with spears, and so on. Good on you Ano.
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Who do I need to go to to identify stuff? I can't remember and for some reason I haven't been able to find out using the wiki.

>>17611583
Is Elona Custom compatible with this update yet?
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>>17611530
healthy leaves and edible wild plants both count as vegetables and healthy leaves will not rot so you can just enter any spot outside of a town and pick those up
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>>17611583
>and stardust
>unknown shell drop rates reduced
It all makes sense now.
But it sounds like a really nice change. Not that it will ever change my negative luck with living time-stop weapons but at least we have more options.
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Where can you get Herb Bit exactly?
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>>17611606
E+ 1.71 is not even out yet

You can check the custom discussion page from OP link, if the version number does not match the latest E+ version it is not yet updated
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>>17611644
All right, I see. I haven't played this game in a year or so and I've more or less forgotten everything.
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>>17611656
You missed a lot of cool shit, you're in for a treat
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>>17611663
What are some highlights?
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>>17606133
lol, the rock
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Looking to choose a god, which one has a smile most in need of protecting?
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>>17611386
Holy shit speed rings for days
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>>17611668
-Ton of evolutions/creatures/items/special actions
-Nefia Fever event that gives lots of material spots
-Huge potential gain increase (100% per training) but potential loss increase as well
-Crafting recipes (dairy items from milk/tea to heal MP or lose weight/feed to gain weight)
-Rare loot trigger bonus for not save scumming (huge increase in rare item drop rate)
-Living weapon spawnrate quintupled
More autosaving
-Garok's hammer adds fixed bonuses now
-Craft repair kit item to max weapon dice
-Living weapon levelup choice list is fixed order+changes every month and every enchant
-INI reset feature at the oblivion palace
Seeds from kumiromi statue/fairy fixed depending on day
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I found Ragnarok's long lost brother. What happens if you wield two weapons that both have "it brings an end" attribute? Does it cause 2 Ragnaroks?
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>>17611756
Oh, that does sound cool.
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>>17611624
Not like the shell drop rate matters when the meta is still to just farm Party Time jobs.
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>>17611779
Double the odds of it triggering, probably.
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Seriously though who do I pay to identify things, I can't find them. Did something change about it?
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>>17611830
Town wizards. Not to be confused with any magic vendors.
They usually hang out with the informer.
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>>17611644
E+ 1.71 is out. Check the wiki forum page and use the axfc downloader.
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>>17605964
My character is basically me, fulfilling my fantasy of marrying a pure-hearted virgin Amish girl and owning a farm in rural Pennsylvania.
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>>17611725
Which of these sounds better to you?

>You know, you've made a right choice. I will treat you with great love, little kitty.
>Oh my little puppet, you serve me well.
>My dear little kitty, you deserve a reward, don't you think?
>Serve me to the end of this pathetic world, for you are my dearest slave.

>Weee! You really have faith in me? Do you really?
>Weeee! I'm so happy. I like you! I like you!
>Here's a gift! For you! Mewmew!
>My heart aches! I think I like you...I guess!

>I-I don't expect you to be my servant...I-I r-really don't, you silly!
>W-What? I'm not gonna praise you. I'm not!
>I-I'm not giving it to you as my gratitude. I-I r-really am not! Silly!
>N-No! Cut it! I-I don't love you. Stupid!

>OK! OK! I'll look after you!
>Good job, just like that! Keep it up!
>Yeah~! I'll give you something good!
>Alright, awesome! You're the best!
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>>17611865
The idea of an incredibly powerful deity acting like option 3 amuses me greatly.

On a totally unrelated note, could you marry a god(dess) in this game?
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>tfw white
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>>17612009
Yes, you definitely can.
However, you need to be at least Level 175 to do so.
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>>17612009
You can make a copy of any creature with an astral pen if they like you enough and marry them
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>>17612018
checkmate, white devils
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>>17611992
The only correct choice is Yacatect. She is a hard-working girl that won't notice Lulwy visiting you in your bed every night since she is working 24/7 on your shop.
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>>17612088
>not wanting best boy Kumiromi
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>>17612141
that's gay
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I got a wing snail, should I assign it to be a breeder at my ranch?
I'm currently using a rabbit as breeder and there's 3 rabbits running around the ranch now.
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>>17612243
Wing snail will give you random shades which can be useful for gene engineering. You don't have to replace the rabbit, you can get another ranch if you want.
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>>17612253
If you don't need shades, you can store it at the Doujou. It'll be safe there indefinitely and won't occupy party space.
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>>17611817
Shells are the low level meta.
PT farming needs a higher level to be productive, since you have to kill NPCs that have uniques.
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I'll share my findings about 1.71 once I gather some pics. Had a lot of things I needed to test with Kai.

>>17610100
Sinaha in Act 3 reveals a little bit about the gods past. As a side note, the playback disk which you can buy at the Cyber Dome allows you to play cutscenes you've already seen. Anyhow, pic related shows why some people may have depicted Itzpalt as female.
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>>17612449
So let's say Kai really did become the new opatos? What would your domains be?
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>>17611992
The tsundere attitude is a sign of emotional immaturity, this means as she matures (assuming she matures) she will mature around her partner.
This is good for relationship stability, one partner is the foundation, the other forms around the foundation.
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whats the best way i should use "bio printer" ? whats the easiest best figure i can get
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>>17612568
>whats the best way i should use "bio printer" ?

Decorating your gene engineering laboratory.
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>>17611534
lunchbox all day everyday, why do you eat anything else?
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Am ready for the new materials
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>>17612742
How come yours are orange? Do players get different colors?
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>>17612770
each character will have a different color scheme for certain items. It's not all the same for every character.
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>>17612770
Yep. Spellbook, potion, and scroll appearances are randomized, with the exception of a few potions like sulf that always look the same.
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>>17612770
It's the rogue-like nature of the game.
Each playthrough, most potions have a randomly assigned color so you'll need to identify them before you start knowing what they are.
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>>17612784
>>17612848
>>17612875
That's a pretty sweet feature, I like
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After getting my ass kicked by Utima along my pets, I went to clear Lecimas and got to the 16th floor of Rehmido before attempting the Forts of Chaos again. I just curb stomped the three of them in quick succession with my character alone. Felt good.

Is it better to hoard chests from dungeons and wait for lucky days to open them all?
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CHALLENGE:
Quickdraw one of your last scenes in Elona during the past day. Doesn't matter if you suck. I believe in you.
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>setting up custom AI for black angel
>AI complains and won't shoot further than 5 squares even though the long bow she has can shoot up to 10 squares http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons
please
please
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>>17613008
That's just the way ranged NPCs work.
I don't even know why that page goes to 10 since absolutely nothing sees further than 7.
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>>17612887
Note that certain things (notably bottles of water) are always the same color.
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>>17613008
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4#In_Use
>If you tell your pet to use ranged attacks on a target that is more than 5 spaces away, then despite that tactic being chosen, your pet will perform no actions and the error message will be displayed.
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>>17612018
What map file are you using for this?
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>>17613005
You asked for this.
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>>17613085
Lel nice. Close enough. That's pretty much mine too. IS your character a lich? Why is he grey
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>>17613073
I only "Elona Plus Beautify" and with overwriten character sprites from "Monster Girl Sprite Sheet (no camaeos)"

Sadly both are outdated and some sprites are missing.

Does anyone have some intel about an update for them?
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>>17613114
Yeah, just figured it out a moment ago. Seems like a real pain to try and fix everything by hand. Bunch of stuff on the map files seems to be missing too. I really liked the warmer color scheme.
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>>17613109
Golem
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how do you refresh who you can hire in your house? my hiring options are always the same people and even when they are cycled out its the the same 6 - 7 dudes instead of a magic or black market vendor
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>>17613262
I think its just passage of time.
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>>17613005
>Summoned a little girl, taught her a bit and turned her into an succubus helper who adored me.
>Got a sickle, turned it into a magical chain sickle.
>Skeletoning around I found a cool set.
>Pretty much any monster would die against me.
>Suddenly, I thought it was a good idea to confront the bandit raid boss
RIP, mr. Bone. You had a nice run.
Shit, mouse drawing on paint is the worst.
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>>17605954
Completely new here. Any recommendations for a very simple starter character that I can use to get an idea of how the game works? I've fucked around for about an hour and I still have no clue what's really going on here.
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Starting to warm up a bit to 1.71 but overall I saw my usual gold earnings take a major hit. I made a lot of gold crafting things and putting them in my shops but due to how the crafting system works now I probably can't mass produce and sell stuff like I did in prior version.

Lightsabers, panties, spears, vindale cloak, and almost all the armors have been removed from the craft lists of the tools. In its place are materium items that you create from those tools. The materium items are used for pot for fusion recipes. One of the recipes calls for a weapon of your choosing, materium, and stardust to create 3 miracle or godly weapons of the initial weapon you chose as an ingredient. The other recipe calls for a weapon of your choosing, materium, and an evolution heart to change said weapon to a different weapon of the same category(Ex: long sword to claymore).

The main bottlenecks to mass producing weapon and armors through crafting is stardust Due to this, it has been hard for me to craft tons of stuff for sale. Instead I've stuck to selling various cooked foods from the corpses of monsters I kill in the void and have sold all the junk I find on the void floors in my various shops. Top left picture is how much I made in one in game day. Around 2.6 million with around 500k of food in a freezer to sell the next day. A mere sliver of what I was making before but a decent amount of gold.

Living weapons are harder to get now due to the stardust bottleneck. I was getting around 1 living weapon in a stack of 50 crafted weapons prior so I'm guessing it will take around 16 stardust or more to get 1 living weapon in 1.71. On the flipside though, getting a living weapon of a specific weapon type is easier. You can now get living guns, bows, and if you're dead set on a living claymore you certainly can try to craft one.

Surveying my options in getting stardust I did stumble upon some good sources of stardust. First, the void is a good place to gather stardust as there is a boss every 5 floors and some of those bosses carry precious weapons. Just need to keep said precious weapon in your inventory and the next time you fight the same boss you'll get stardust from him. Parties can also have NPCs that carry precious weapons. Finally, and probably my preferred method, will be buying stardust for music tickets. Stoke carries the necromantis for 7000 music tickets so all I would have to do is buy that once and all further purchases of the necromantis will turn into stardust. Since I can make up to 2000 music tickets each party time quest it's feasible for me to in essence buy stardust from Stoke for 7k if I so wish.

Now that I got what I think is the bad news out of the way there are some things I really like about this update. My favorite addition actually is the exp increase, up to 10x, for killing enemies that are higher level than you. The void is an excellent place for this so my pets are really enjoying this and my character would have in the past. Surprisingly some of the new crafting recipes can net you some decent gold. Like fur carpets can net you some solid gold. In my top right picture I sold 50 fur carpets for just shy of a million gold.

I was pleasantly surprised by the new log cabin recipe. Bottom left and bottom right of my pic. Here I thought it would be some house deco but you're actually making a shack deed. Also it is surprisingly easy to make. Just need 10 axe skill to get the cut tree special action and 50 con and 50 carpentry to create the log cabin. Then all you need is a bardish or the negative edge to start cutting down some trees. I got like 115 wood from cutting down trees in 10 random wilderness maps and got 23 deeds of shack which I sold for around 745k. Cutting down the trees was quick but making the deed takes like 50 turns or 12 in game hours. A blessing in disguise as such an activity makes you sleepy which is perfect for restoring spell potential if you're a mage and due to the passage of time easily resets timers on statues and vendors.
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>>17613473
Dwarf warrior. You won't have to worry about most of your enemies that way.
>>17607495
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>>17613508
Thanks! What sorts of weird shit should I expect out of this game? Going in mostly blind.
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>>17613473
Juere Farmer. Take the Exorcist, Dimensional Move, and Magical Plant Knowledge feats, and try to train your Gardening up to 30 in Yowyn.
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>>17613473
Juere is the only bad class because they get hungry slower which limits character progression. Class doesn't matter end game.
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>>17613522
Went in blind a few days ago.
Expect weird dreams, curses, adventure, questing, farming, fishing, house-building, necromancy, magic, thievery, vampirism as well as all sorts of alchemy, witchcraft, sulphuric abortions, godly cuckolding, child molesting festivals and organ-selling among other things. And that's what I've discovered in the 4 days I've been playing and lurking.
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Does Contingency protect against Death Word?
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>>17613285
Good shit, RIP mr bone he died (can a skeleton die?) a hero
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>>17612472
If I decided to ascend the throne with Kai and become the new Opatos I fear for Irva. My domain would be power but unlike Opatos which is just physical related power I would extend my domain to include magical power as well. Which would mean I would kickoff another godwar in my attempt to force Itzpalt's domains to become my own. Normally when gods go to war their followers go to war as well so maybe the mortals will go to war as well. It can only get more messy if allies and factions with the gods and also with mortals start entering the mix.

There was a picture awhile back showing the opinions the gods had for each other. Overall, I would ideally like to have cordial relations with Jure, Ehekatl, Kumiromi, and Yacatect. I'd probably be on bad terms with Lulwy, Mani, Itzpalt, and Eyth though.
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>>17613005
This was an unpleasant surprise
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>>17613596
Boy howdy, wait until you encounter the joy that is a danger room of elemental hounds.
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>>17613608
Or a hand of chaos on low-ish level with perma death mode on.
>SHIT WHAT IS THAT FUCK RUN SHIT FUCK
>*teleports back next to him*
>SHIT FUCK RUN I HAVE TO ESCAPE FUCK SHIT
>*teleports back next to him*
>OH PLEASE GOD NO SHIT FUCK!!!!
Eventually I died.
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>>17605964

Wizard who ran away from home to study cool magic. Generally horrified at almost everything that occurs in Tyris, but morality and his increasing wealth and prestige prevent him from just legging it out of the place.
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>>17613632
Reminder of the ability everyone in Loss mode needs early on.
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>>17613473
If you want to test the waters on everything I'd say a Juere warmage.
Juere have no real bad stats starting out and have to eat a bit less than other races to help you ward off starvation while learning the ropes.
Warmage is good for testing out magic and melee.
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>>17613473
I'm going blind right now too and I made a catgod predator. I have no idea if it's a good or a bad idea, but at least I hope it's going to be fun.
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Has anyone tested out the last story bit of act 3 yet?
I don't really want spoilers I was just wondering if it seems to be any closer to the "end" of the story or whether I should be prepared to wait for another 3 acts over 40 years.
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>>17613473

Yerles Warmage. You've got no bad stats, you get an extra skill point every level and you eat normally.
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>>17613473
No snail, no fairy, no extra race anything else is ok.
The race aren't so important even by mid-game.
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wat do
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How do I add items using Elosnack?
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>>17613917
Hit "No."
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>>17613996
All right. I know it was probably obvious but I didn't want to fuck it up somehow considering all the legwork I did.
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What's the most efficient way to farm enough music tickets for capped life/mana?
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>>17614009
load up an earlier version of elona and perform for high level summoned spirits in party time quests
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>>17614015
Is it even possible to downgrade versions?
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>>17613505
>stardust and evolution hearts as crafting mats
rip
Also, you don't really need to carry the precious items, you just need keep them stored somewhere. When you get a new copy, just drop it near the old one (or anywhere on the same map) and pick it up again to turn it into stardust.
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>>17614025
your save is compatible with most versions of elona
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>>17614015
Honestly this seems like the only viable way to cap life. I need over 10 million tickets and I'm barely getting over 500 per quest. I don't know how many you get with spirits but this is ridiculous. I can't even play this game anymore because there's no way to proceed without exploiting mechanics of a previous version.
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>>17614157
>I need over 10 million tickets
Why the hell do you NEED that many cheeses?
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>>17614185
So I can become the strongest.
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>>17614157
>i cant even play the game anymore because i can't have 10000 hero cheese
quoting you btw
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>>17614111
Yup. I usually keep a lot of my precious weapons in my museum and just pick them up to cause copies in my inventory to turn to stardust. In the void however I usually just loot the precious weapon and keep it on me since doing 50 floors I'm usually bound to run into repeat bosses with copies of the precious weapon.
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>>17614288
Do precious items increase museum rank or is it just for flavor?
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>>17614292
Just doing it for flavor.
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>>17614157
Did you include pets in the calculation?
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>>17614300
No, I don't tend to use pets at all but I've taken a liking to one so I'll end up needing enough for him too down the road.
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>>17614111
Weren't people complaining they had too many evolution hearts to know what to do with though?
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>>17614421
I dunno about other players, but I'm sitting on hundreds of em with nothing to do with them yet
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>>17614421
Can you not sell them in a shop?
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>>17614427
Must be why Ano invented a new use for them.
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>>17613505
Does luck still have an impact on fusion crafting?
If not, this could really make crafting suck.
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>>17614157
Isn't it better to increase CON and raw levels instead? Max HP is 20 million, you don't need max Life to get to that.
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What body parts should i add to a bell?
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>>17614421
Does it look like to you that we can gain enough heart and dust to craft correctly without exploiting the game?
Ano is is likely nerfing the game based on player like kai, potentially wrongly thinking he isn't a singularity in this community. The last five or so patches have been give one, nerf four.
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>>17614157
Are you using fascination dance and have pretty good charisma? I can net around 1,500 to 2,500 each party time quest.

>>17614432
Luck probably still plays a role in what kind of stuff you can get. Probably the item generation part concerning miracle and godly. At least that's what the coding suggests according to an anon in a past thread that posted this for what luck influences.

http://codepad.org/rSGtFQ9b
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>>17614556
>I can net around 1,500 to 2,500 each party time quest.
...at level 7176
I'm not sure your situation is relevant. The gap is too wide.
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>>17614592
Probably started farming hero cheese around lv 1000ish and was making around 2k back then as well. Not sure level really factors much into it. I find my ticket fluctuations are more based on what named NPCs show up and how many. Also the amount of multipliers on the job board quest means little in how much I can expect to get in tickets. I've gotten 2k from x60 as I have from say x177.
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>>17614474
arms for accuracy boosting gloves if you're going for the standard "give them a bow and let them go wild" strategy
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>>17614592
I'm like level 70 and I can get ~1.2k per party on the higher parties.
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How do I check out what feats my pets currently have? I tried to give Exile the Barrier feat with Leold and it turned out she already had it and he refunded the 2K AP.
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>>17614652
For real? You can make lots of tickets off of low multi? Those still spawn for you?
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>>17614592
Pretty sure the only stat that matters for fascination dance is charisma, and it's pretty easy to train if you have a lot of money.
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>>17614810
Every now and then I'll find a really low multiplier job board quests mixed with the really high level ones. Here's an x12 party time quest where I got around 1,800 music tickets.
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>>17614592

fascination dance is charisma base unlike others is a mix of charisma/willpower+skill
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assuming the same potential, does raising a skill from 1 to 2 takes less experience than raising it from 22 to 23? im assuming it does
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How do I get a healer for my party if I'm not gonna use Jure?
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>>17615031
just get the familiar and ditch jure
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>>17615055
B-but that's mean
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impossible to actually get to the God's Prison?Talk to Leold does nothing and I can't open the trapdoor in the middle of the room.
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E+C update when
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>>17613085
Lichman leaving early game and having more platinum than you know what to do with
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I kinda wish some maps offered you more than the typical square full of grass, like some rocks you can mine or something. It would make adventuring much more interesting.
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Why can't you invest in cargo merchants, but can invest in everything else, even useless shops like food and inns.
And you can only buy everything once per cooldown to increase it.
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>>17614157
Ghahahahaha
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>>17615456
You can mine rocks in dungeons, in the field junk, flowers and nuts are all you're gonna get. Compared to earlier versions there is more to find (flowers are new) but it is still not much. There aren't any interesting generated wilderness maps either, like you don't have a chance to stumble upon a little flower garden with stone arches around it or anything since every wilderness map is just empty with random items sprinkled around it.

Actually it's like this with dungeons as well. While they draw from a selection of layouts, there are no fixed themed rooms to make things interesting. To compare with say DCSS, in there most maps are indeed randomly generated, but scattered around are also ''points of interest'' or ''vaults'' such as a room that looks like a little shed and always generates tools, or one that looks like a storage with food, or a dirty kobold den, or an arena-type room with one out of depth monster in the middle, a themed room with altar to a god etc.
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>>17606859
Adding to the replies spam because holy shit this is useful.
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>>17613662
I can't actually enter the final room, even after talking to Leold. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or Ano needs to fix his shit. So that's still a mystery.

I don't think they've answered who that Oblivion fellow Norne was talking about is, or what the AU Larnierre and Lomias are all about. So I expect there to be an Act 4.
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i can dump items anywhere and they wont dissapear,right?
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>>17616303
No, only in static locations and your home. They will disappear after a while in towns, and on maps that get rerolled every time you enter such as the puppy cave or the wilderness they will be gone the moment you leave the map
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>>17616318
there this is mining tiny dungeon on the right side of the first town filled with slimes,should i be worried i dumped stuff there?
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>>17616358
That place is static I think. So no worries
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>>17616358
Yeah the puttit cave and thief den are safe zones to store loot.
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>>17616402
The Cyber Dome is static too, isn't it?
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I'm getting there! Should I change class from Claymore to Predator once I maybe find a business card? 10% more crit chance sounds tempting.
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>>17605964
She was a good-naturedyoung girl who had been a servant all her life and couldn't do anything on her own except basic cooking. She gathered plants to prepare food she could sell.
Her only companion was a faithful dog who died to protect her. That gave her the willpower to continue on her own and follow her dream of opening a restaurant
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I really enjoyed the Etrian Odyssey music pack in the Elona mod pastebin, but was thinking of swapping out some tracks and also figured the music mods could use more up-to-date variety.
So I decided to cobble together my own custom music pack, featuring the BGM from a game called Granblue Fantasy.

https://mega.nz/#!Z6h2DAgL!Xy3T7E1gO5CZhjEj1EJ-zJF10Uxpe9lwaRRwgNr2q_4

You know, that game that everyone is making porn of recently. But other than sexy whores, it also has a kickin soundtrack (at least I think so).

Some stuff to note beforehand though:
- The archive is 670 mb in size
- I still left some Etrian odyssey tracks in there from the other pack for a few reasons. The GBF OST doesn't nearly have as many tracks, or it doesn't have many subtle ones for laid back dungeon diving. But mostly because Etrian Odyssey sounds that good!
- It still needs extensive testing since I haven't reached Act 2 far enough yet. I mostly derived the BGM list from the wikia
- you tastes in music may vary
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>>17613640
>Raiding dungeon.
>Suddenly 2 moderately strong monsters and a strong creature I've never seen appear.
>Try to run, but they're too fast.
>Decide to avoid taking risks and teleport away with a scroll.
>Teleport next to a boss and two strong enemies.
T-thanks Elona.
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>>17616530
>You know, that game everyone is making porn of recently.

Pretty sure that porn has been getting made since it came out.
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Where do I get instruments?
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>>17616698
Mass destruction?
Derphy.
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>>17616727
N-no I mean like a lute or something.
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>>17616732
Goods stores and the furniture vendors at the embassy stock them sometimes I think.
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All my characters have been pet heavy, whas some good shit to go to be a legend on my own without pets?
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>>17616868
Necromancy is different and less babysitting. Other than that you can be anything you want just a lot less effective because no pets.

Personally I don't like managing an army of pets so I limit myself to a select few.
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>>17616974
>MFW I rely so much on my pet that I become its support.
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>>17616988
It's the opposite for me. Bringing them to dungeons felt like babysitting them, always having to look after them and praying they didn't step on a trap. Now they are ridiculously weaker so it's even harder to train them.
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Rate my uniform
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>>17614544
Heart and dust are for different recipes, the one using hearts being much less important and therefore used less frequently than the other. You definitely won't have to "exploit" the game to have enough hearts.
And you must think too highly of these threads if you believe Ano browses them or knows about one of its posters.
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>>17616988
I recently decided to finally do the quest to take down Estork the Doggod in South Tyris. On my way into the forest, Estork showed up a floor earlier than I expected and caught me unawares.
Before I even realized that he showed up, my wife teleported behind him and crit him to death.
It was at that point that I realized that I was not the hero of this game.
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>>17617084
There's probably several Kai-level players in the Japanese community. If there are several of these OP guys explaining how they get their power, I'm sure Ano would do something about it to stop others from exploiting their way to the top. Remember; his save-scum crusade was inspired by 1 guy suggesting to a newbie to save-scum for the blue spirit.
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Does the plot ever get good?
Is there any memorable characters?
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>>17617053
Kinda got a "Dilbert new guy" pose goin on there.
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How much do I have to invest into a blackmarket
shopkeeper before they start stocking any Godly stuff cause I've invested around 10,000 rank into them and I ain't seeing shit yet
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>>17617170
I'm at like 1000 rank and I've seen some.
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>>17617173
whaat
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>>17617192
No foolin'.
I do follow Ehekatl though.
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>>17617152
Fair enough
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I'm sorry if it's a dumb question, but I've managed to get a happy bed off a cupid of love.
How significant is the effect of bed value on sleep? Because I've been carrying a blessed eastern bed around which is a lot lighter. My weight lifting isn't that high yet, and I don't know if I can go around adventuring/questing with a heavy bed on me.
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>>17617234
>read scroll of inferior material
>happy bed now weighs 3.1s with no downside
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>>17617238
That's pretty good.
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>>17617234
It influences the average potential recovery you get from sleeping, which is a pretty big deal early game when your options are few.
Do what >>17617238 said and make it into paper or some lightweight material.
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Finally captured a male one.
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>>17617313
Why do you want a male? Also nice name.
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>Make ghost knight RP
>Go straight into the first dungeon
>rape everything
>Get to level 6
>Hungry ghost appears.
>My trusty sword which has never failed me goes full Morrowind and misses all the time.
>Hope to hit it once to kill it.
>I don't.
And I thought I hated performers.
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>>17617327
What's with the hate about performers? I almost always one-shot them and I've never been killed by one.
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>>17617327
hungry demons are fucking awful if you miss
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>>17617335
All they do is run and they do a decent amount of ranged damage at low level.
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>>17617430
Ah that explains it, since I'm a gunner that running away doesn't save them.
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>>17617430
>>17617435
They also have a high crit chance if they get the first shot, which they will if you're melee.
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Oh my god being a hooker trains charisma sooo fast. I should have sold my boipucci waaay earlier.
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>>17617482
Just make sure you have a way to recover that potential.
And blessed healing potions in case of Sick.
P.S. shopkeepers pay quite a bit, especially ones you've invested in or bought from recently.
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>>17617313
I didn't come up with the name, it's from Dragon's Dogma.
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Which God is the best to start with as a Warmage?
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>>17617518
The cutest one (Yacatect).
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>Roll count of Darkness
>Make notdracula, the lich with hypno and blood drain as abilities.
>Get hungry
>Feed on little girl who I turned into a MILF
>Still hungry
>Still have to feed normally
IT was too good to be true.
>>17617511
That's why it was a nice choice, anon. It's my favorite vidya dragon. Will he grow into an adult dragon?
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>>17617524
Is there a good god for edgelords who want to dominate the world?
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>>17617533
Lulwy probably
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Damn it Sophia. Why can't I choose C, D, E, and F?! Kai wants C,D,E, and F for his reward!

A) wealth
B) fame
C) strength/power
D) harem
E) seat of the god
F) you
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>>17617499
prostitution lowers potential? Shit. At least I have my two followers to help me out.
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>>17617528
Oh, I saw you asking why a male and thought you didn't know about it.

Eventually, but for now it's fun watching the little thing say "Their ilk serves no role in what is to come" after killing something.
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>>17617518

Lulwy can basically make Act 1 a joke once you hit decent Favour levels, since the Jewel and Trick can shove you into 500-600 speed range, which completely overpowers most enemies.
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>>17617551
EVERYTHING that increases attributes lowers potential. It's just how the system works.
Potential is a multiplier on incoming experience, for attributes "Good" means at least 100%. Whenever a skill or attribute increases, its corresponding potential decreases.
Increasing attribute potential is a big challenge for early game players, and I'd say is the first major milestone to overcome.
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>>17617589
Ah, I see. I guess I'll have to figure something out then.
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>>17613005
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>>17617528
Drain Blood is actually special action designed for married couples to show their love for each other while doing daily "slice of life" things like cooking and reading books together.
But, back to DARKNESS, you can use nether damage to recover HP and eat the raw flesh of your enemies (human too, if you have the trait) to fill your undead belly.

>>17617551
Everything lowers potential as you level up your skills, but if you are getting crazy stat boosts you will see crazy potential losses.
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>>17617597
The solution is usually:
1. Get Investing
2. Get enough money so you can Invest 50 in a couple Magic vendors.
3. Hope they stock Potions of Potential
4. When you get some potions, mix a blessed bottle of water into the stack, then drink as needed.

Invest 50 is expensive early on, which is where the hurdle is. Bottles of water (you can bless them on altars) are also a bit uncommon.
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>>17617150
Yes, yes
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>>17617610
very cute/10
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How's that other game the creator of Elona is developing going?
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>>17617819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkl0dgaJfk
Last video was 5 months ago, says it's not a RL but looks turn-based. I really like the visuals.
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>>17615840
Story should work fine. Was able to access the trap door after I talked to Sophia and got the heavenly jewel which looks yellow. Artifact allows you to raise dungeon danger levels it seems. As far as I'm aware, Sophia's dialog and events related are untranslated so you may want to hold off on doing them until translations catches up if you care about what is being said.
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Oh shit. I put my pet at home and now there's no way for it to follow me again. Did I fuck up? The wiki says nothing.
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>>17617916
Use houseboard, check allies, select the pet
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>>17605964
She was a good and well-meaning knight set on a journey to fix the world through the power of stabbing things really hard, but its twisted and amoral nature got to her in the end. Nowadays she spends her time plundering the roads and selling the goods by stabbing things really hard as a six years old
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>>17617548
>gives "you" option
>can't use it
This should be considered a crime against humanity.
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>>17617923
Well, that was silly.
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>>17617933
I ended up choosing harem and I'll leave it at that. So sad that I couldn't choose multiple options.
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>>17617953
Wait, you do get what you pick and you were just sad it can only be one? Is it time to roll a dapper solo squire and go on a 300 hour quest to earn Sophia's hand in marriage?
>>
On Act 2, anything special to do that I can't get back to or whatever or can I finish it and start Act 3?
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>>17617548
When I get a quest reward I'm lucky to get some gold and halfway decent rewards. When Kai gets a reward gods offer up their seats, harems get made, and a country goes into debt to pay a kings ransom. I feel like I just got chaded. Well at least I have my maid mansion.
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So uh
This is a thing.
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>>17618043
Yup you get to pick but only get to pick one thing out of that list. I have no idea how Sophia reacts to the other choices but I imagine it can be amusing.
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>doing such terrible thing with a small (dragon) child
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>Use a spell because I need to kill a performer fast
>It's an AOE spell
>And AOE spell around me
>I kill everyone around me, even my companion, who was a good friend.
>Spell had only 7% chance of success. Literally never get it to work again.
>Performer runs like a bitch while throwing knives.
>Kills me.
I swear I will learn the most overpowered spell I can get and blow these motherfuckers in such a gruesome manner that it will make all the gods crawl under their beds and my karma will skyrocket to minus and reset back because that was just too fucking much.
>>
Is there a way to get to lost irva without getting ether disease every other trip?
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Are life, mana and luck also reseted when you use Maile's services?
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>>17618079
Once upon a time Anon adopted a cute little baby dragon. It followed him around and always tried its best to help. One evening before bed, he hugged its tiny body and it was soft and warm. Suddenly a monstrous urge overcame him and he accidentally its cloaca as it tried desperately to resist. Shrill echoes rang throughout the cave and the surrounding terrain as it squeaked in sheer terror, but nobody came to its aid
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>>17618173
After you reach the 7th floor of the Cradle of Chaos.
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>>17618155
Deal mind damage to them and they their will kill themselves, or nether damage to send them straight to hell.
As a bonus, use a sand bag on one of them to torture them eternally.
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>>17618155
Learn magic dart or use rods of it if possible. Hang around doing board quests in town until your armor slots are filled and you can enchant a couple pieces before going into e.g. puppy cave. Find oracle scrolls when there, and sell them or trade them to adventurers for valuable gear. Go to palmia and hit the casino if you ever get a lucky day.
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>>17618079
>Be adventurer
>Oh, boy! My first serious hunting mission. I can't wait to face whatever dangers lie ahead and become a true hero!
>Villagers tell me about a nearby cave where terrible growls and shrieks come out every night, frightening the cattle and making them feel uneasy.
>I grab my trusty sword and I say, confident, "not a problem!"
>Little I knew where I was heading.
>So there's the cave at last.
>The entrance is quite narrow, maybe the monster isn't that large
>Suddenly I shudder as I hear the most horrifying howls and shrieks I've ever heard.
>Chilled to the bone, I think about turning tail, but the villagers depend on me. I will not let them down!
>Advance through the claustrophobic passage following the increasing sound of that beast's roar.
>There's light ahead. A torch? That must be it.
>It is my duty to face any peril, confront any foe! I shall not fear.
>Advance a few steps and widen my eyes out of sheer terror, for what my eyes behold was not meant to be seen by any mortal creature.
>Before me there's a naked man, hugging a dragonling in a small bed. The poor beast tries to resist but the man is just too strong.
>The man, cries as well as he rapes the poor noble beast. With every thrust he cries: "I'm sorry! I didn't know I could! I didn't know I could do that!!"
>Come out of the cave, head to the town.
>When the villagers look at me I just deny with my head.
>I've seen some shit man.
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>>17605964
Tsundere mad scientist that regularly abuses and experiments on his unwedded soul mate the young girl.
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>>17618241
At least he's not as bad as Raphael
>>
>>17618087
What does harem get you if I might ask?
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>>17618181
No
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I'd love to post an update on elona# progress but
>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
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>>17618277
Oh now it fucking works, I'll bet it's because it was too long before with my obsolete paragraph on spells.
And yeah I know race shouldn't be a struct that was stupid.

in over my head and kind of enjoying it
Based on my experiences modding civ 5, I'm planning to put all the game's text, and some other things, into a sqlite database. Localization will be handled by having a separate table of each language. So when you talk to Jortnort the citizen (female), the game gets that this NPC has generic dialogue and generates a random number to pick one of the many things it can say, so maybe getText("TXT_KEY_GOSSIP_"+"1","en-US") passes the params into a sql statement that selects the row with TXT_KEY_GOSSIP_1 from the English table and comes back withScut is short for "that's cute".The localization options will be populated by a table containing all entries in a Localizations table. This way any elona community can localize the game. As to whether a talk function will be a member of Character or be a public function in the game object and take the NPC as a parameter is TBD. That ties into quests, and how I'm going to represent quests remains to be seen.

A similar system will be used for NPCs, each NPC type and named NPC will have an entry in a Characters table with their default levels, skills- oh fuck, how do I represent skills?

Many things are interrelated circular dependencies and it's hard to find a place to start when writing. For example a dart spell needs to check if there is a character on the targeted tile, so character needs to exist for intellisense not to yell at me, but the character needs to be able to cast spells. How I define one might affect how I define the other. VS has refactoring but it still is kinda unsettling to leave all those red squiggles all over.

>>17614474
rings for melee martial artist, necks for sniper
no hands
rubynus gloves regardless
>>17614556
thanks for the snippet
>>17615456
noted
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>>17618286
How many decades do you estimate your mod/rewrite is going to take?
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>>17618286
actually, maybe it should be a struct...
polite sage for talking to myself...

I am basing all my math on what is on the wiki because there is no way I could dive 12 million lines of decompiled assembly-tier hard to read BASIC. If you have intimate knowledge of formulae used in the game I'd appreciate it if you'd check the relevant wiki page and update if needed. Even if I burn out at least you'll have helped kepp the wiki up to date.
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>>17618313
depends on how fast I can pirate SEB albums
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>>17618323
Maybe running in the 90s will take on a new meaning when we revisit this game as shriveled old raisin men in our 90s
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>>17618274
Alright, thank you.
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>>17618330
Maybe when I'm 90 years old my character will be maxed.
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>>17618268
Sophia pretty much says, "I see, I'll keep that in mind for your reward. I would like to continue this conversation but I want to talk about the chaos god and this artifact I have."
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>>17618286
Is there a practical reason you're doing this or is it just for memes
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Why can't my new character rub? It was fun to do it at parties.
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>>17618568
You need to level up with a whopping 5 charisma.
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Hey guys I'm having some trouble with saverestore. My save got corrupted or something so I'm trying to restore an old save, but it's giving me this weird message. I have no idea what it means and I can't find anything regarding this message and how I can go around it.

What does: "cannot create file when that file already exists" even mean? Of course it already exists because the save is still in the save folder. I tried deleting the sav file, save folder, and trying different backups.
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>>17618595
Well shit, I'm a rich so I'm fucked.
I guess it's true undead can't into sex.
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>>17618614
Don't worry too much, it turns out throwing money around makes you just as attractive.
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What happened to the gravity control feat?
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>>17618277
Is Character a general template for both the player character and NPCs? If so, why would NPCs need a cart or god field?
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>>17619059
I forgot that NPCs have an associated god for preaching purposes. But I'm still curious about the cart field.
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>>17618601
Have you tried to manually move the save files from the backup folder to your current save's folder?
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>>17619133
The save backups from custom are incomplete files. Yeah eventually I tried that and it worked, but I got a save penalty, which I am totally fine with compared to losing my save.
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>>17618936
What version are you on?
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>>17619190
1.71, is it character creation only?
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What do different colored unknown seeds mean?
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>>17619242

nope any time you have a feat point for it
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Is it pure chance which gender of God Pet you get?
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>>17619389
Weird, it's the only one that seems to have disappeared. Time to see if I can add it in in EloSnack.
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>>17619389
>>17619403
And I just realized it's mislabeled as Sexy Dance, I'm blind.
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>the early game grind to get enough money to invest to get potions of potential

I forgot how not fun this was.
>>
>gotten the male exile, male cat and male android

AAAAAAH
WHERE IS MY (NOT-GAY) HAREM

REEEEEE
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>>17619397
I believe some pets have fixed gender (like black angel), but yeah it's random.
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>>17619454
This is the God's way of telling you to be loyal and marry your little girl instead of their divine sex slaves.
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>>17619454

>get to hang out with bros

What are you complaining about? There's plenty of girls to bang.

You've got a dragon, tiger and super robot gang of friends, and you can use your little girl or some other girl as your waifu.
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>>17619454
They're your wingmen to help you land cuties. Girls love cats, buff androids, and the dark and brooding type.
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>>17619425
I bought shop first chance I got and just loaded it up with all the weapons and armor I could find, making multiple trips per dungeon if I needed to. Before long I had 2 mil in the safe and I was pretty much set for life. In the past I ran escort quests for early money but my shop method is probably faster with the plus side of having a high ranked shop as early as possible. Of course I still had to run quests for bronze and plat coins but the grind was nearly non-existent.
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>>17619495

The shop takes at least 200,000 to set up.

You could just invest two magic vendors up to 60 with that money. That said, getting a shop is essential to keeping a healthy flow of money.
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>>17617533
Either Mani or Itzpalt.

>>17618241
>"I'm sorry! I didn't know I could! I didn't know I could do that!!"
Okay, that got me.
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>>17619507
You could, yes. Whatever gets you potions of potential by the time you're done with early game. Personally I bought an estate with quest money and later spent the shop money to invest my personal vendors up to 100.
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>>17619454
>complaining about getting cute fucbois
>>
Can i use custom with new version?
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>>17619564
When the update for Elona Custom for this version comes out, yes.
>>
>1.71 changelog
>Removed the Life penalty for Icolle's body part removal service.

I can finally shove as many genes into my pets without having to worry about how many cheese it'd take to make up for it now?
While it's too late for my current pets it makes it feel worthwhile to create gene with a soul spindle to start over now. My zombie girl waifu can now follow me to my next life without having huge life penalties from me playing Frankenstein with her!
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There needs to be some sort of spell-blending or macro support unless I'm not supposed to be casting a lot of buffs at once on myself and my pets.
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>>17619901
Only cast buffs you really believe you need. Most of the time you can finish a fight earlier and just as easy by just attacking instead of wasting time buffing later on.
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>>17618277
INI = Attribute INI / Speed INI

The two INI values are determined when the character is generated. For the player, this is at character creation. For pets, enemies, and other NPCs, this is the first time you see them. These values will never change over the course of the game, as the character gets stronger, changes equipment, evolves, or gains speed by spending AP.

The Attribute INI value is equal to the sum of the 8 attributes from STR to CHR, plus 2 x Life, plus 0.5 x Mana. If 2 x Life + 0.5 x Mana is greater than 500, then the Attribute INI will be the sum of attributes + 500.

The Speed INI value is equal to the character's speed at the time of creation.
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>>17619901
You can hotkey them, I always use cheer before a fight. And as you train the spells they start lasting really long
>>
How do I find how out much luck I have?
>>
>>17620268
You go to the mirage tower in the third continent and ask Sinaha
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I found a longsword with a "It brings an end" attribute is there any neat tricks or exploits, i can do with it?
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>>17620388
You can cause ragnarok in high level dungeons and get treasure from the dragons spawned by it, which are scaled to the level (and their treasure too). But I'm not sure if this was nerfed (maybe around the time summoned monster drop rate was nerfed into the ground).
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>>17620430
Been trying to do this for the last 20 minutes and haven't been able to proc ragnarok even once.Either inside or outside a dungeon. Are the odds that low?
>>
>>17620594
it's a rare proc, keep trying
rome wasn't destroyed in a day
>>
>>17620594
ahh it just happened i got insta gibbed by consecutive dragon breaths something to try again in the future i guess
>>
>>17619564
I tried it, it works somehow. Are there consequences for not waiting for an update?
>>
>>17620935
Something is will break horribly eventually.
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>>17620935
Don't complain when you suddenly encounter savefile corruption.
>>
>>17620969
>>17621002
I'll back shit up just in case then
>>
>>17620935
Just dont tinker with the A.I. for Custom and you'll be fine
>>
PAGE 10!!!
SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!!!!111
>>
>>17621208
Yeah yeah don't get your panties in a twist, there is 14 threads not counting gaps from deleted threads between this one and falling off, giving us like half a day to 24h before 404
>>
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>android loses boost when evolved
What the shit, who thought this was a good idea, can you teach it to them again? Maybe using Custom AI?
>>
>>17621356
Android hasn't had boost at all in Elona+ in forever, instead having the armour bitflag.
>>
Why can't I unlock certain special actions even when I acquired the necessary stats required?
>>
>>17621466
You get them on your next level up.
>>
>>17621466
>>17621476
Also gear bonuses don't count.
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>>17619088
Work in progress, some items are just there to remind me I need to implement them
Currently brooding over how C# handles attribute inheritance, ie it doesn't. So something like pic related doesn't work. Instead I need to create a property, which is an anonymous variable implicitly declared by declaring it's accessor or mutator in shorthand like
public readonly uint baseCost {get;}.
set could be in there as well were it not read only, and set could have validation logic inside it. Nothing about that bothers me, but the fact that properties are accessed and updated as if they really were public variables like uint i = Spell.baseCost; pisses me off because I have situations where I can't use a prop and places where I can't not use a prop, so I have this mishmash of Thing.getValue() and OtherThing.value notation that really mean the same thing and this rustles the fuck out of my jimmies.
>>
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So many names, so little characters.
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Okay this is new.
The food was grown on my farm. Does it increase speed because of that, or is that now on anything?
>>
>>17622091
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29#1.70
>Made food train Speed attribute by an amount dependent on their +enhance value. This applies even if the food item does not usually train Speed.
>>
>>17619088
Maybe it is for determining how much stock trade vendors (the cart-only items only for selling between towns) can carry, since you can't invest in them
>>
>>17622100
good thing I started out by heading straight t Yowyn and picked up gardening as my first skill then...
>>
>>17622122
You made a good choice, Yowyn is *the* town for safely training stats and doing quests while gaining levels early on. It's a comfy place to spend your earlygame, especially if you are playing permadeath.
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>>17622122
My wizard has more Gardening than Casting.
Farming just levels so damn fast.

You should look into the "Magical Plants" feat.
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this shit is so vague, does anyone have a clue where it is?
>>
>>17622166
2 spaces north, 1 space east of the Ancient Castle way down south.
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>>17622146
I like it. Not sure if that's the next feat i'll chose but it's definitely in "the plan" now.
>>
>>17622179
you're incredible!
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>>17622166
Use this next time, if you narrow down possible places (e.g. how many places on the map have 6 of the same tree group in a row with three single trees underneath) you can always find it
>>
>>17622192
Mate that map is laughably out of date.
Like, "old Elona" out of date.
>>
>>17622200
Yeah I realized it right after posting, it should have been the E+ version, which is over 4MB limit but easy to find with a search
>>
>>17622190
Eventually you kinda get an eye for how each of the regions is themed as far as the environment tiles go.
One very important thing to remember for treasure maps is that locations like dungeons, towns, etc DO NOT APPEAR. It'll just be a blank spot on the treasure map.

Here's a more recent map without locations.
>>
Anyone happen to know why the music mod (Studio Ghibli Music Pack 2.0) wont work? I replaced the a in musiclist and the file already had a normal a
>>
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>>17622207
Another thing you should know is that random dungeons appear as empty fields on treasure map, not as original tile.
>>
>>17622343
They can potentialy appear under your home too.
>>
okay so why the fuck is a skeleton following me everywhere?
>>
>>17622351
Yeah, I had one on one of my farms before.

>>17622355
He just wants to be your bone buddy.
>>
>>17622355
This may be a cnpc you downloaded, other wise, I don't know.
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>>17622355
He has a bone to pick with you
>>
>>17622382
And he's making no bones about it.
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>>17622365
>This may be a cnpc you downloaded, other wise, I don't know.
I have no idea what to do
this bony prick has been one shotting me
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>>17622396
>this bony prick has been one shotting me
use "*" to ID it, please.
Can't you just kill it if it's an enemy?
>>
>>17622396
Is your character's name He-Man?
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>>17622396
Make your character do some kegel exercises anon, you need to last more than one shot when getting boned
>>
In my time of playing theres something I never knew, what do the $ mean on job boards
I assume the more there is the more difficult, but they are also color coded, do they both mean difficulty? Then whats the blue that randomly shows up?
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>>17622557
Green: Faceroll
Blue: Actually have to stay awake to do it
Red: Maybe do something else
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I went into wizard mode, made some adamantium weapons (and used repair kits on them), and fed their damage dice into anydice.com. I hope this helps people wanting to use Equip Update. Here are the values I used:

output 3d21+29 named "claymore"
output 4d12+22 named "katana"
output 2d24+14 named "long sword"
output 2d15+3 named "lightsabre"

output 1d60+18 named "bardish"
output 1d54+26 named "battle axe"
output 2d27+18 named "hand axe"

output 2d15+29 named "sickle"
output 3d9+18 named "chainsickle"
output 1d51+14 named "scythe"

output 3d12+26 named "club"
output 2d39+14 named "hammer"

output 1d24+11 named "staff"
output 2d15+14 named "long staff"
output 4d9+11 named "whip"

output 2d30+3 named "halberd"
output 3d15+14 named "spear"
output 4d12+11 named "trident"

output 2d15+14 named "dagger"
output 3d12+11 named "scimitar"
output 4d12+18 named "wakizashi"
output 1d42+3 named "kitchen knife"
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>>17622698
That's neat
>>
>>17622698
Do you have the accuracy bonus/penalty for each as well?
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>>17622752
Didn't think anyone would be interested in the other stats, but I'll list them. Again, these are for adamantium, which has low values for these particular stats (except the spear's PV):

claymore: (1)
katana: (0)
long sword: (9)
lightsabre: (1)

bardish: (-1)
battle axe: (1)
hand axe: (7)

sickle: (3)
chainsickle: (13)
scythe: (5)

club: (7)
hammer: (-3)

staff: (7) [4,0]
long staff: (5) [4,0]
whip: (15)

halberd: (-1)
spear: (3) [0,22]
trident: (5) [3,0]

dagger: (17) [4,0]
scimitar: (13) [2,0]
wakizashi: (11) [1,0]
kitchen knife: (9)
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>>17622783
Ah, thank you.
>>
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