Is there anything more thrilling that the Russo-Japanese war?Anonymous2015-10-30 02:43:31Post No. 14287898
Imagine, some seemingly omnipotent European imperial power getting crushed at sea by the Japanese Navy and entering a national crisis as a result. It's perhaps the single finest moment in all of Japan's history.
>>14287898 It was impressive that Japan was able to modernize so quickly and to the point that it could take on a country like Russia, but at the same time Russia was at a serious low point and the whole war was marked by serious incompetency on the side of Russia.
>Japan spends $49.1 billion on defense, the sixth most in the world.
>Japan's military is fairly well-equipped. It currently has 247,000 active personnel with an additional 57,900 in reserve. Japan also has 1,595 aircraft, the world's fifth largest air force, and 131 ships.
>Sakhalin has been claimed by both Russia and Japan over the course of the 19th and 20th centuries. This has led to bitter disputes between the two countries over control of the island. Russia seized the island from the Japanese near the end of World War II.
Japan's single finest moment is a war they lost apparently.
>>14290401 Not really, the war still bankrupted Japan and they were not able to decisively defeat the Russian army in Manchuria, so they couldn't extract an indemnity from them to pay off their war debts, they also had to give back the northern half of Sakhalin they conquered.
>>14287981 Except that they totally could on sea. Their navy is, not just in numbers but also technology wise very impressive. Japan also has a pretty decent air force, the F-2 is one of the most modern planes in the world and probably the most modern F-16. Generally speaking, Russia would have to invade an island which is guarded by a great navy and capable air force. Not to mention that Japan is essentially made for defensive action.
The US would support Japan anyways so air superiority will always be on Japan's/America's side.
>>14290455 Russia has more worthwhile targets these days in Europe and Western Asia than dealing with Japan from whom they wouldn't get shit even if they attacked and won.
A better contemporary comparison would be a hypothetical fight with China. Even then they would likely have no opportunity to distinguish themselves at all as the States would do all the heavy lifting while they patrol for subs off Kyushu.
>>14290503 I'm not saying they would attack. Of course they wouldn't because they know they can't win with the US in the back.
I doubt China and Russia are going to fight each other either though. Sure, they're allies because it's currently convenient for them but China has the money that Russia needs.
They'll just strike deals with another. China has been trying to get some proper engines for the J-31 and J-20 for some time. China is just too important for both the US and Russia, not to mention the global economy.
This is quickly gliding into major off topic though.
>>14290555 >>14290503 Oh wait you meant China and Japan. Sorry, guess I was rather confused there. Anyways, the scenario is kind of similar actually. I doubt China would bother with Japan. Fucking even more with American patience isn't going to to happen I think and the US will never ever give up Japan.
>>14287898 Didn't commies just say something like: "eh, we're not in the mood to fight so here we'll gift you this small island or some shit and you can fuck off" And the prime minister was just like : 'k, I guess we'll call back the samurais, apparently cutting guns with katanas doesn't actually work"
I think I remember something silly like that from a history class.
why would you sail your ships 18000 miles away to try and get to the one friendly port in the Pacific that is also past Japan meaning you would have to pray they just don't notice you sailing past them to get there.
>>14293804 That's different from simply knowing how to use your technology. Who are they going to fight that also has recent combat experience? At the very least they'll know how to use their fancy new gear even if it's not in a real situation. America hasn't fought a real war in a long time either, it's all been these guerrilla type wars.
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