>>12706509 >>12706526 There is VN induatey in the west. Just look at Clannad kickstarter. And with more translation vn will be more popular right? If vn become more popular the industry will vastly improve
>>12706535 >And with more translation vn will be more popular right? So more shitposters who intentionally come to shit up unrelated threads despite their own being on first page? Uh, suuuure man, totally good thing to donate your money for.
>>12706594 >Why ? You are not in japan right?Then why do you read vn?
What? The last thing I want is visual novels being butchered when it gets translated. The less popular it gets in the west the better considering the fact that means it will also attract more faggot EOP shitposters.
>>12706962 Its there, >>12698919, but our dear autist-"oldfag" is intentionally shitposting here. Its not first time he's doing this, he's just sorrow that he's only one who still couldn't learn japanese after so many years and does this as "revenge".
Mostly, the entire eroge genre is pretty niche. I'm a huge fan of the community both here and in Japan when it isn't spouting hatred, but its very small nevertheless.
However, I'm really not against funded, formal translations done on quality titles. Mostly because, even though translations can't ever match or accurately convey the source material since its an adaptation, I don't see the need to deliberately alienate people trying to get involved in the medium. Or at least shut people down and spew hate just because they don't speak Japanese. If they're cool that is. I acknowledge entirely that the /v/ side of the community can be ridiculously obnoxious, but I try to take that on a case by case instance.
Of course >>12701975 nailed it. Maybe this thread is naturally exclusive because we have so many more titles and genres to talk about.
My main complaint though, is that I wish people would actually buy more titles to support the industry instead of just playing their games, but at the same time imports are an expensive hobby. I myself put 30 into Clannad for the tapestry and passed news of the release to a few friends, since that's a title I really want everyone to play. Think that its one of the baseline rites of passage to get into the medium.
Currently playing Koisora+FD. God, Hisashi is one of the best bro character ever. At first i thought he's just another "ドバカ変態" type which its existence is nothing better than comic relief but he's actually more than that. Definetely one of the best charage i've ever played, I wonder why Koisora is not included in any recommenation chart.
>>12706686 Not great, but not bad. Common route is kinda fun and enjoyable, but the heroine routes are nothing but h-scenes. As I said in last thread, they should make something between fucking h-scenes, like ichaicha time or a date or something else. 10 h-scenes in 3 hours is nothing but pain.
>>12707230 >I wonder why Koisora is not included in any recommenation chart. I thought the common route lasted way longer than it should have, and that the actual routes were pretty disappointing. It was fun at first, but it just got tiring.
This scene in Nanairo Reincarnation was extremely powerful, to the point where it even brought a few tears to my eyes. This kind of heartfelt and meaningful drama is quite rare. I really wasn't expecting this from an imprint of a studio like Silky's.
Hey /jp/, I was wondering if you could help me. I've started translating Oiran Rouge. It's a stylish Edo-era brothel sim. I've got most of the UI and menus translated already, but then I realized that I didn't know how to actually edit the game files. So for the past 18 hours I've been trying to open these .xfl files with various adobe programs and absolutely nothing is working. It's getting pretty frustrating. Could somebody help me with this shit? This game is really cool and I don't want my, well, two days of translation work going down the tube for nothing.
>>12708848 >>12708849 >>12708860 How conflicting. Thanks for the advice, though. I might as well post my plight to the other thread. I knew there was usually a TL thread hovering around, but I couldn't find it in the catalog. Whoops.
I can't into moon. Anything similar to Majikoi that is translated I could read? I'm also into more deep stuff but whatever is being / completely translated and isn't shit would be nice. I'm starting to get into VN now.
Finished ランス９, I thought it was a pretty good eroge despite the mandatory RPG gameplay elements being a bit weak but by no means terrible. It sort of rekindled my enjoyment of the series from way back playing the English translation of Sengoku Rance with its good storytelling and a surprisingly likable male cast in a game where banging girls is such a major aspect.
Could I get a few opinions on 11eyes? I feel like a playing a battle eroge after my Denpa sweep this month. I keep on seeing chuuni show up in the EGS reviews, which is cool by me, I liked Dies Irae, but I can't get into it if it doesn't have awesome power speeches thanks to Masada.
On that note, does anyone have recommendations for some awesome action/battle eroge that are maybe a bit underplayed? It's really the dialogue and characters, hero or villain, that I look for in these games.
Minor spoilers are cool, but please avoid plot spoilers.
No, the "translation" is a disaster and completely failed to convey the original writing style, which is quite nice considering it's Sakurai. That is not a good thing, it is worse in every conceivable way.
>>12709400 >>12709449 >>12709446 Whoa, so i guess this Clephas guy is lying about how he know japanese then? I thought it was weird that he finished 50 hours long vn in few days. Why would i waste my time to read his review all of this time..
>>12707713 Yeah, the common route is insanely long. But i think it redeemed itself since the plot is actually moving. >>12708803 I don't consider koisora a comedy game but comedy is certainly one of its strong point >I get the impression a lot people don't like comedy games though.. I think lots of people here liked Hitoren and Ren'ai0 so i'm not sure what are you talking about.
>>12709489 Being on Fuwanovel should be enough to doubt his credibility. That statement is ridiculous. I haven't read Ignanock and probably never will but there is no way in hell an english/translated version would be better than japanese version in any way.Once you start to grasp japanese you will realize there will be so many things that will be lost in translation when japanese converted to english.
>>12709624 >>12709681 If a VN is translated well, I do think it can compare to the original Japanese version, but it does make sense to say that a translation won't capture the original version entirely. Some things most probably will be lost, whether they be subtle or large.
>>12710197 Probably people who played it with atlas or whatever, at the same period people in /jp/ also thought that Dies Irae was a cheap FSN rip-off. I remember the threads, "OMG IT HAS A PRIEST SUCH A RIP-OFF", "OH THAT BLOND HEROINE IS MARIE ANTOINETTE SO SHIT" etc... People often complain about agth users here but before it was worse
>Dies Irae is basically FSN gone wrong. If you think FSN has too convenient twists and power ups, I can't fathom what you'll think of Dies Irae. And it's obviously a huge, blatant FSN ripofff. Ahaha going through the archive and damn Dies Irae was hated in old /jp/, even after the Acta est Fabula release.
>>12709271 If you want good action eroge thats underplayed there's Amatsukaze and Kikaijikake no Eve which is bit less focused on action but you want to read it before Amatsukaze due to their connections.
>If you want good action eroge thats underplayed there's Amatsukaze
I went with this upon some mentions in the thread some months ago, and damn I didn't expect it to be that long. Some of the card battles were sure screwy with the difficulties. Whoever starts this should expect to work in quite a bit of time.
>>12710626 I sure hope the various 亜人間 would this time around have endings/routes, biggest mistake kamidori did. Dat dragon-loli too delicous. Plot atleast seems more interesting than Kamidoris, mainly due focus on god related stuff, so it will be nice to know more about them which I sure hope we get here.
>>12710762 >I don't think it's better than average
Opinions, i think it's better than random moege #2423 that get released every month which still isn't saying much. It would be silly not to milk something that retains a high level of popularity over multiple years, but it looks like they are almost finished with the series anyway
>>12710758 I also think it's better than average, but i don't understand the hype around it.
Granted, it's really enjoyable. But to be honest none of the heroines gives a strong impression and the story itself is nothing memorable or give a great emotional impact. If i would compare Majikoi to a good moege, let's say Fureraba. I would give Fureraba higher rating since both are equally enjoyable but Fureraba heroines are more charming than any of Majikoi heroines. Well, that's just my opinion but Majikoi is really weak in heroine department.
>>12710771 I agree being better than average, but its not as good as making 7 games - 27 routes + 8 after stories about it. I mean what the fuck are 27 route? MC fucked almost every pussy in the city. Just a fandisc would be enough for this.
>/jp/ hating on kamige like Majikoi Knock it off please, Majikoi is a masterpiece even Japan agreed. comparing it to some shitty moege ? Give me a break . Im sure you only hatingnon it because it's popular and partially translated.
>>12710538 You've mentioned the near-impossible. Nana & Kaoru is one of the manga I still avidly follow after all the switching around with the publishers because it deals with BDSM in such a perfect way.
I kind of want to say Noesis' Love es M but I've not personally tried it even though it's somewhere on my hard disk. So I'm unsure if it deals with the heavily emotional and interpersonal aspects of BDSM instead of just being an outlet for the fetishes.
If you find something please make sure to tell me, too.
Can you guys recommend some moege which have mature heroines and not nukige? I'm bored with classic high school heroines, I'd like to have some ichaicha with office ladies, or teachers, or someone 20-25 years old. Btw I already read the damekoi.
>>12711354 It's been a very long time since I played Zero but didn't he start getting called the godslayer because some nun or whatever saw him kill the pope of the baruhart church and called him that? Him killing Astraea probably added to the legend too
>>12711318 I really liked it too. It actually got me genuinely interested in rockets. Arisa was a fun character too. The true route was great and the OP was addicting as fuck. Certainly one of the strong contenders of the year.
>>12711318 >>12711434 I'm glad you guys liked it too. It definitely is my favorite game of the year, but I guess I am really biased since I love the core concept of the history of space exploration and Per Aspera Ad Astra. I've said it before but it felt like one of the few times I could hear the VA of a game (for Arisa) genuinely enjoying her role. That or she's really good at it.
I liked the common route, but only the common route. I disliked the Crusaders arc, but otherwise really enjoyed it.
I hated the character routes though. I played through Sera's, which had the amazingly stupid plot of a battle tournament with the school's land held hostage.. But Kayoko's route really took the cake for pantsu on head retarded, I just had to stop reading.
>>12711639 8/10 It's a pretty important eroge in general and definitely impressive for a title released in 2004 in term of production value or scope but if you put it at the light of 2014 the flaws are pretty apparent I actually like Nasu so I don't want to appear as someone who is just hating on him just for the sake of it but the writing in FSN in general really is quite mediocre with only a few shining scenes here and there, it really felt like the execution doesn't catch up with the concept most of the time. But in another way I can see why it became so popular so he did do a lot of things right and as an entry level eroge, which it was for me like 8 years ago, it really is quite impressive
>>12711729 I like Nasu too, but Nasu falls into subpar pacing and weird moments. I have to admit he is the best at creating a universe that can vary so well. It's why people with better action sense like Urobuchi could make something off it that was pretty good in itself, too.
If Nasu was just director and he had someone else with a better sense of pacing writing the bulk of the story it might make for a really interesting experience.
>>12711354 For someone judging other people, you sure are too retarded and most likely didn't even read the game. Just like other EOPs.
Reason for being 神殺し: Serika's opinion on the matter: その剣でサティア――アストライアの胸を引き裂いた。俺を生かそうとした女神の胸を。 「俺は……神を殺した……神殺し、だ……」 「そうだ……俺は、神殺しだ……」
Legend at Macl region: 身体は女神アストライアのものに相違ない。 我ははじき出される形で、元の魔神ハイシェラ本来の身体に戻っているのだから。 女神の存在は、我が身体を保持していた時にはまるで感じられなかった。 だから――そこに立っているのは、女神の身体を最初に奪った、“神殺し”――。
Mizu Miko explanation (note that she clearly says he didn't manage to actually kill any gods): 「貴方が如何なる理由で神の体躯を得ようとも、古神に、そしてバリハルトに剣を向けました」 「“殺害”には至らずとも“神殺し”の意志を持ったことは事実。故に“神殺し”と呼ばれるのです」 「……そしてこれからも、神に剣を向け、生きることでしょう」 「貴方自らが、その定めを選んだように……」
Barouhart temple, BEFORE Serika even reached it: 〜バリハルト神殿 某所〜 「……邪神の使いが、侵入を果たしました」 マクルの街の様子を映し出す、遠見の鏡を見つめていた司祭の言葉に、その場の面々に緊張が走る。 「オレノ大司祭よ……」 「致し方ありません」 「……信仰を喪った“神殺し”を止めるため……神の力をお借りしましょう」 「……オレノ、大司祭……」
And there's not even single case when 神殺し was associated with anything but Astraea.
>>12710356 Will do, both games were on my back log. Didn't know Kikaijikake no Eve was a prereq, appreciate the tip.
>>12710364 It was mostly catch-up, so you've probably played all this. Replayed Sayonara wo Oshiete, then played the three leaf games, then finished with Sayonara Utsutsu. Sayonara wo Oshiete is an absolute must play if you like denpa and I can't recommend it enough. Shizuku, Kusari, and Kizuato are all super dated, and not really good, but I think they're worth playing for the history since they're very orthodox. Sayonara wo Utsutsu was surprisingly good, not great, but definitely worth playing since it was all of like 5-6 hours long.
Talking about chuuni stuff, I guess I should try Fortissimo again. There is a new game in that series that will be released on Vita soon and it looks cool so I want to read it but it's a direct sequel. Everytime I start Fortissimo I always end up dropping it one hour in but I guess I'll steel myself and at least get an ending
I can't deal with the second protagonist, I forget his name. I dropped it shortly after he appeared. Everything about him pisses me off, he just looks so stupid. Please report back if it's any good, though I have very little hope.
I've just finished Shizuku. Ruriko's route was good. The other two don't really add anything to the story. All up it took me about ten hours. The ending were you rape Ruriko and let your denpa go out of control was my favorite ending. I read all of Tsukishima's lines in Midorikawa Hikaru's voice.
I'm not sure if I fucked something up but there was no music, just sound effects.
>>12711928 Both Kikaijikake no Eve and Amatsukaze are pretty long so it's quite an investment but they are definitely worth it. Eve is the closest to what I would call pure chuuni, despite how it looks and its setting it has some incredibly crazy fight scenes full of powers who would be right at home in DI. Amatsukaze is very very long and pretty much has the most fight scenes out of any eroge but it's more traditional ninja stuff and special ninja power, though it does get really chuuni toward the end too. Both have excellent writing, Onikage is pretty much one of the best eroge writer in term of writing pure action scenes
So yeah if you have time try them, if you want something shorter and "obscure" try some of the lesser known of Propeller like Tokyo Babel or Evolimit (the newest one Sougeki no Jaeger suck though)
I mean at least it's partially realistic because just because you've slightly influenced them they're not going to fuck you off the bat like in 90 percent of other VNs. Yet at the same time there does come a point where you think "Who the hell you talking to tubs?"
The fact that if you jump the gun and get down and dirty too early will result in either the stimulus being too strong and waking them up or (in Keika's case) her friends kicking your ass should be enough
>>12711667 But the Crusaders arc is literally the whole point of common route itself. To be honest, I also got tired of it after chapter 18 ( when MC got suspended from school) and starting to ctrl most stuff.
Well, about the Sera's route i'm actually more bothered about no one fucking try to stop Serizawa earlier when he go nuts, seriously you can just sneak behind him and sweep his leg .
Nevertheless, i really enjoyed it. Just play the character routes for ichaicha and you won't be dissapointed.
>>12711639 7.5 I think i'm a little alone in this, but i think Rin and Saber are bland mary sue character. I don't understand why people like them so much . Shirou " girls shoudn't fight yadayada" is also annoyed me to death. The only character that get my symphaty is only Caster, I wish there is an alternate route when she win the grail
>>12712333 >>12712402 Yes, the set up made sense, I still thought it was too fucking long. Felt like years before you actually get to stick it inside, not to mention how fucking mild the initial sessions were.
>>12712343 What's her name purple hair really should have a route, such a waste of decent design. They ought to scrap the tan and chubby scenes altogether.
>>12712535 I could only find Chinese sites like baidu that downloads at 50kB/s and confusing so I'm uploading it now. The stuff I googled last year doesn't seem to bring up jpddl which I got a link from I think. The song titles are all in hiragana though, if that bothers you and it's in MP3 V0.
>>12713180 I didn't misquote anyone. At >>12710722 I've said that Serika is god-slayer because of Astraea-Satia event. At >>12711354 he said that I'm "wrong". At >>12711911 I've provided quote from the game where Serika explicitly states that he calls himself god-slayer because he killed Astraea-Satia, and where Barouhart believers call him god-slayer before Serika even stepped inside temple. At that point Astraea was only god he ever fought. At >>12712926 that retard tried to cover up his blunder using some nonsensical remarks.
Starting chapter 5 of chusingura, besides a couple of overly long history infodumps in chapter 4 (I found the rest quite interesting), I'm enjoying it a lot, it has some really great moments here and there, shouldn't have had it for so long in the backlog.
>>12713540 I'm very sorry that you've come this far for Chapter 5.
Non plot-related minor spoiler in case you want to go in fresh Chushingura should have either had a different ending, or ended with chapter 3. I liked Chapter 4 as well, but 5 left the worst after taste, it's genuinely bad.
Well, at least the Shinsengumi is awesome. Even if it's just amazing speeches, I'm excited for the FD.
No, you've come this far so you might as well finish it. Chapter 5 deals with History and the unknown overarching antagonist. Just the ending is so bad and so out of nowhere that it eclipses a lot of the highlights of the previous chapters. At least for me, that was the games major flaw.
It's essential particularly because the fan disk happens after and between two of the major ending events in the game . If you liked what you've played and are interested in the FD, you can't skip anything in the original.
>>12713654 Because this is better than having an "EOP General." You know just as well as I do that it would consist of a few people trying to discuss stuff and a ton of non-EOP guys shitting all over the thread.
>>12713842 Just to follow up as well. The fan disk probably won''t address the ending, rather, it can't but as kind of an "episode" with the Chushingura characters, the author's pickiness for respecting the setting and the historical entities he depicts, I think its going to be pretty great as long as all of the new ero scenes are kept separate from the main dish. The power speeches in the preview at the end of the demo sounded awesome.
I really think that if you've played and like the original that you don't have many reasons not to be excited for the FD.
I made a thread about it a long time ago but it didn't really work out. So maybe it would be better to ask here: Can you guys give me an example of a troped dating sim with pretty much everything you could expect but still being enjoyable?
I don't really care whether it's translated or not, I'm gonna learn some hiragana and katagana anyway.
>>12714072 >a troped dating sim with pretty much everything you could expect but still being enjoyable? Lovely x Cation games are awesome, Pretty x Cation was at least decent and there's a second one coming out next year. First LxC has some drama in routes, but LxC2 and PxC are almost completely drama free. They don't have a continuous story or anything like that so pick the one that seems to have the most appealing heroines to you.
Me too. But the writer didn't explain the bloodline element that pulled Suguha into Edo period in Chapter 3. If they just made him come back with a protagonist with a different name, they probably could have avoided that explanation entirely. Introducing new villains and stupid whatshername final boss was just a bad idea, they could have kept it to history as a force without much detail and been good.
It's just such a shame because 1-3 are really good, 4 is hit or miss depending on how interested you are in the conversations, and 5 just disregarded every good part up to that point because of theme spamming and "plot".
Speaking of infamous CGs, does anyone remember the one of a before and after picture of some girl's doll house being destroyed, with her crying in the second panel? I never did find out what game it was from, looked like a Xuse title though.
>>12714304 Hetare man is great. I like a game where a man dont do nothing and pass on activity and difficult thing to people around him making him a sort of burden but he have a good handle on life so people kind of like him for that reason.
愛妹恋愛 is actually pretty cute & lewd. I like how the game tries to make the heroines appear more, I dunno, alive? They aren't just copy pasted tsundere/derere/etc collection of tropes. Pretty rare for a borderline nukige. It even manages to be funny at times. The feet are still terrible though.
>>12714502 I also wasn't blown away. However it really capitalized on all of its selling points. The game was outright beautiful, the setting, characters, relationships, dialogue, really everything just radiated beauty. The other thing was kind of inherent. The game was really genuine, pure, and sincere. That sincerity came through crystal clear.
Whether or not its the greatest thing ever or the best Shumon game or whatever, I can't really deny that its 100% of what it was trying to be and what it was aiming for.
I honestly think it has a lot to do with whether or not what it has to say resonates with whoever's reading it. Some of the things that happened really hit me hard and made it a very personal experience, this probably biases my view of it quite a bit.
Shuumon's writing is also wonderful all the way through and the underlying message is also really touching if you just look at it in the context of the story. Like >>12714561 said, one of my favorite things was also how 'complete' the game felt both in all aspects, everything kind of played off of each other and made for a really solid experience.
I don't think it's something everyone will enjoy like I did, though.
And yes, 青姉 had my favorite scene in chapter 2 that didn't make make me cry.
>>12714614 Here are two versions I downloaded from archive.org. https://mega.co.nz/#!WkJDCIIL!3jqN0VNurHzIZfu0qPiwBFcjkASt9bh7LeDO2BM3lAM https://mega.co.nz/#!isZ1jLiK!h8FpUGjJiFWnyVUXLnA-I-nd2BgennIQHNXOSf_Vat8
>>12715027 Anything you've played and liked, then. Or something you haven't played by a writer/brand that you like. I would say prioritize smaller brands, but really it doesn't matter as much when you're talking about older games.
Ever since playing Rakuen I've really been craving games with either convincing or really intricate characters. Maruto and Jackson and the guy that wrote Masaru have all done a really good job of this, though I worry they set the standards too high.
What are some really good charage? Avoiding archetypes as much as possible.
>>12715027 I'm personally gonna buy Sayori's Nekopara LE this month, since I love her art and this is her first dive into eroge. The artbook and calendar look like they will be fun too. It also costs half as much as a standard A release. https://nekoworks.booth.pm/items/54594
>>12713215 Because he bercame kown as Godslayer for his hole in destroying Barouhart's temle and Astraea was added to his legend later. Don't pay attention to >>12713200, he is too stupid to even realise that he is stupid.
>>12715027 If thats your current pre-order list it lacks the new VenusBlood for notable releases unless that isn't your thing. Of this year somewhat notable release was Nanairo Reincarnation that might have slipped past you.
>>12716210 I can have a mediafire link in about 15-20 minutes, if you're fine with that.
Anyways, the English seems pretty legit so far, though I can't really make sure since I can't read moonrunes. Also, it seems to be able to detect your system's language and automatically set it to that.
>>12716437 >Sorry, I don't go /vg That's a good thing, their VN thread is fucking horrible. It's all right to post about whatever you like, especially if you were nice enough to make a mirror for the game
>>12716237 >the English seems pretty legit so far,
Just taking a look at it myself aside from a few mistranslations (The "I hate you" one stood out like a sore thumb) they did a pretty damn good job with the English translation, can't comment on the Chinese unfortunately. I don't know why they put so much effort into the English when oversea sales are generally terrible however
Senshinkan has a pretty big vocabulary and used a lot of words that I hadn't really seen before either. You just sort of have to roll with it and look up what you don't know, because it gets a lot worse as the game goes on. The prologue is actually one of the easier sections imho.
>>12717805 You forgot your picture of a piece of shit in the "got" section. age has churned out a lot of mediocre games these past several years under two different brands, but I'd easily consider TE to be the worst of them.
Going to have to thank you for recommending Euphoria /jp/. I really didn't find 98% of the ero scenes to be particularly enchanting, but the protagonist's for lack of a better word, 堕落 dialogue was excellent, and the most memorable lines came at just the right time. The ending portion was absolutely exquisite.
I really do recommend this game. Not the best thing I've ever played of course, but it's really quite good. The ero is going to be hit or miss, but I'd imagine at least some will hit for most, but the narrative and ending route really made it worthwhile.
Pic related (HEAVY SPOILER) was fucking terrifying, but the protagonist's response when you didn't go for the bad ending was so perfect
>>12710258 Looseboy himself is hated because of the recent scandal and shit, his games don't receive nearly as much heat.
VN generals opinion on Type-Moon mostly varies on the "not so good - OK - pretty good" axis, the most intense hate comes from EOPs just moving past the entry level stage who want to look like eroge experts.
In short, there was a game (Juukishi) that was released in a poor, unfinished state some months ago. The people who bought it were more than a bit disappointed and massive backlash happened.
An Effordom Soft employee issued an apology and excuse for their failure, but then some info was leaked and showed that this employee was a scapegoat for Looseboy to prevent his reputation from going down the toilet. This because Looseboy was the one who pushed for the game to be released in its unfinished state and because he has his own game (Taiyou no Ko) on the works.
Search the archives for "Effordom" and "Juukishi"/"銃騎士" if you want more info.
>>12718960 Honestly, I have no proof so I'm not going to ask you to believe it. I think there was a photo of the leaking employee's documents that showed he was an Akabei Soft employee, but I don't have that image saved.
>>12718853 >Mizuki not well received Is there a particular reason why? I've gone through 3/4 routes so far and I like all the characters. Only issue I have with Mizuki is that she's been completely useless in all the routes thus far except parts of the common route (but so have Akira+Ayumi outside their own).
I kinda like all the villains too, except maybe Seiji and Yurika who need to be seen by psychiatrists.
Partly in what you wrote >Only issue I have with Mizuki is that she's been completely useless in all the routes And also she's very overwhelmingly passive, and her mess of reason in her route about strength in man vs woman.
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