Why can't our generation find well paying jobs, afford to

>>55000107
because they're too busy having sex to rap music and whatnot

>>55000138
not this 2bh

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>>55000107

Probably because you're lazy fucks

>>55000138
haha alri grand dad

>>55000107
Because most members of this generation, like all generations, are dumb and lazy. Unfortunately, many traditional blue-collar jobs that paid well got transferred offshore where dumb people worked for pennies.

You really should've gone into investment banking or something like your parents always wanted.

Because you're fucking lazy go outside or search on the web.

>>55000138
And your grandparents were busy listening to rock and roll, having sex, and doing drugs. Yet they managed these things just fine.

>>55000107
boomers fucked it all up

>>55000221
I will also add that most semi-skilled jobs decline in their relative productivity as technology improves. And technology has improved quite a bit.

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>>55000107

how did job searching work back then?

did they write their CVs? Did they use a type writer? Were resumes even a thing? Was a firm handshake and a determined gaze enough to land a job?

>>55000107
Service economy

>>55000385
Look at the stats. In the 70s,you had a 50% chance of landing a tenure track academic job in STEM. Now it's like 10%. It's worst in biology.

>>55000385
Back in the 90s you would fill out an application and the manager would call you up the next day.

Today you apply online and 99.9% never get a reply.

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because of this guy

>>55000107

They're lazy and they spend all their money on useless shit.

My brother is this way. Makes $60,000 a year. Spends his money on partying, taking trips, and then complains that he can't afford a house.

Because the jobs are increasingly requiring college degrees or are disappearing due to automation.

>>55000726
>>55000228
>>55000138
>le new generation is somehow shittier than the older ones even though in every way they have proven to be superior meme xD
>le wrong generation somehow I'm above all these """sheeple""" meme
xDD

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Support Israel goy.

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>>55000107
because you're just a goyim here to serve jews

jews have no problem with what you mentioned.


sucks being a kike's slav dont it?

>globalism is bad because it means less jobs because we live to work and not the other way around

>>55000107
Because they're lazy and choose to major in something stupid while in college. Rather than studying something useful like STEM, accounting, or tax, they choose some useless liberal arts field. Not only that, but they also think jobs will just fall into theirs laps upon gradation. You have to actively find internships throughout your undergraduate years to build up experience. But many won't do that. Instead, they'll just say it's Wall Street's fault and blame all the corporations for their own shortcomings.

>>>/wsg/937180

>>55000763

Boomers had it easier than millennials, but don't pretend like millennials aren't shitty.

Saving every penny you earn and not wasting it goes a long way.

Millennials can absolutely afford a house and a car if they saved up for it.

But they need a new computer, a new iphone, a new clothes, new video games, new action figures and useless japanese figurines, a new guitar, etc. The list goes on.

Compare pictures of a millennials bedroom to a boomer's bedroom. Notice the millennials is filled with just useless shit that they bought and put on a shelf

>>55000894
>but don't pretend like millennials aren't shitty.
We're not, objectively every generation is better than the last.
>Saving every penny you earn and not wasting it goes a long way.
Not exclusive to any generation.
>>55000894
>Millennials can absolutely afford a house and a car if they saved up for it.
>
>But they need a new computer, a new iphone, a new clothes, new video games, new action figures and useless japanese figurines, a new guitar, etc. The list goes on.
Nothing to do with the generation, young people statistically spend more on fashion and entertainment than on household goods because of different interests.
How about you learn some facts before you spew bullshit?

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>>55000763
we are fucking it up by not killing leeching boomers and creating a tecnocrat anarchist society, to be honest

>>55000943

LMAO. Remember how your mommy would tell you how they got a fruit in their stocking? Yeah that shit was true.

I see millenials buying their fucking 9 year olds ipads and shit.

What did kids get in the 70s? An action figure. What do kids get now for Christmas? An ipad, 10 action figures, 3 sets of legos, etc.

Go look at pictures of christmas and birthdays of then and now. You'll see 1/10th the amount of gifts.

Millennials are spoiled little bitches, which is why they don't want to save for anything.

>>55000885
Liberal arts are great. You just need an angle with it. I read and talked about sweet books for four years. Then I went to grad school. I feel like I'm a pretty well-developed person.

Whether or not it's a good idea to get a liberal arts degree also depends on where you go to school. The guy graduating from Princeton with a liberal arts degree will have no problem getting a job. The guy graduating from some shitty state college will struggle. But of course part of that guy's problem is that he's not smart enough to go to Princeton in the first place.

>>55000890
>jews pretending they're not jews trying to paint stereotypical image of a jew for the goyim


how kosher

>>55001044
>What did kids get in the 70s? An action figure. What do kids get now for Christmas? An ipad, 10 action figures, 3 sets of legos, etc.
>
>Go look at pictures of christmas and birthdays of then and now. You'll see 1/10th the amount of gifts.
>
>Millennials are spoiled little bitches, which is why they don't want to save for anything.
DO you have any facts to back that up, or are you just going to spew anecdotal nonsense to feel better about yourself?
If the latter, then I suggest you go to >>>/pol/
>>55000885
>Rather than studying something useful like STEM, accounting, or tax, they choose some useless liberal arts field
University isn't supposed to be job training, it's where you go to learn and grow intellectually and as a person.

>>55000894
No
Wage inflation < real inflation

Means the average person has much less disposable income than in the 50s

>>55000890
kek

>>>/wsg/937273

>>55001084
>University isn't supposed to be job training, it's where you go to learn and grow intellectually and as a person.

And this is why you'll be a barista at Starbucks.

>>55001115
Confirmed for not knowing the job market, but nice generalizations.

>>55001137
Please tell me what good job you'll get with a philosophy, sociology, or communications degree.

>>55001044

Boomers were one of the first generations with expendable income abd as such were one of the first to be able to afford spending money on stupid shit.

And while spending money on stupid shit, they were still able to buy a house easily. It isn't the same for us.

Milennials aren't great tbf, we are objectively more : narcissistic, lazy, lacking in critical thinking skills, lacking in social skills, delusional, beta and whiny than previous generations.

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>mfw i've burnt money in front of a jew

>>55001184
Sales
Corporate
Any job not requiring technical training because the majority of them will require a degree anyways by 2018
Are you going to post anything factually correct or are you just going to keep on pulling shit out of your ass?
>>55001189
>narcissistic
A virtue

>Communications
Not related to a career.

>>55001189

No you just think we're worse because you grew up with us.

>>55001208
>You
>reading

>>55000107
Get a trade you lazy shit I'm 21 and have 2 vars and almost Enuf for a deposit on a house in west Sydney give me a break with this our generation can't afford shit or get a good job that isnt true you just want to go to university and fuck around for 4 years get a useless degree and complain that a job that pays 100K a year with no work involved will just fall into your lap I worked hard for everything I currently have no help from parents /rant over

>>55001208
>Any job not requiring technical training

Exactly. Those jobs don't pay well.

>>55001184
communications gets jobs easily from any fucking company because every company sufficiently big needs to communicate to its peers and stakeholders

sociology gets employed in HR and gets paid good money for it

philosophy can talk bullshit about the implications of nietzsche's thoughts to company X*s performance and get the job because the interviewer certainly doesn't know any better or even cares

I'm a millenial who has worked hard to be successful. I have older people working with, under, and for me, and I have to say that all the stuff about my generation being "spoiled and entitled" goes doubly for Generation X.

They're used to an employment environment where jobs grow on trees and everything you need or want is affordable with a little bit of smart saving. I'm used to an environment where you have to fight just to get a job you're incredibly overqualified for, that barely pays for food and a one-room apartment.

If you want something better than that you fucking put in the time at that job to git gud at it and make sure everyone in management likes/respects you. The older people who work with and for me really resent me for being a "kiss-ass," for "stealing their hours," for "pretending to speak Vietnamese" (which they don't know a word of, despite having lived in the country for years). That's the Westerners, anyway. My Viet friends and coworkers just think I'm a good businessman and a hard worker.

>>55001208
>Sales
>Corporate
Exactly.
One Burger with cheese pls.

millennials will be the heroes of the new age

>>55001257
Those you memtioned are the most jobless academics.

Damn man even an artist gets easier a well payed job.

Please, if you guys grew up in literally any other generation (especially with baby boomers) you would hate your own generation as well.

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Because the manufacturing sector has gone to China. It's a shame, really. Used to be anyone could raise a family if they weren't a total fuckup. Now you need to go to university to do that. But not everyone can. Therefore the price of university goes through the roof, and we all suffer for it.

>>55001236
If I didn't read I wouldn't reply.
>>55001249
Average pay for a corporate job is ~$50,000/yr
>>55001271
Cashier positions aren't office jobs.

>>55001257
>every company sufficiently big needs to communicate to its peers and stakeholders
You'd want someone who is actually well-versed in finance and accounting for that.

>philosophy can talk bullshit about the implications of nietzsche's thoughts to company X*s performance

And the manager will just laugh in his face. That's not what managers want.

>>55001208
What if your useless degree is also from a shit university?

>>55001337
>useless degree
Nice insinuation.
>shit university
Even associate's degrees from community college will start to be required for most jobs.

>>55001084
What is this supposed to be, a thesis?

Chill out goy.

>>55001330
The last taxidriver I've met had an PhD in phylosphy.

>>55001378
>>>/pol/
>>55001379
Where did I say anything about taxi drivers?

>>55001376

>will
>will
>projecting

please tell me your sources for all this, and not your "gut" feeling

>>55001278
You're a bunch of homos.
And your adopted autistic children will be cannon fodder for the New World Order and it's Skynet monster we're building.

>>55001378

>spew shit
>hurr durr why do i need to provide sources

>>55001290
that's because no one knows shit all about performance in job interviews, you can absolutely score a job with philosophy at least in some big ass blown up corporation that hires constantly and in which HR doesnt give a shit anymore, just use big words and be charismatic in the interview

>>55001335
>You'd want someone who is actually well-versed in finance and accounting for that

ideally you will have communications degree doing the communicating and have some finance people check his posts, at least in finland because communications people certainly write better shit with better language than some dusty old accountant

>And the manager will just laugh in his face. That's not what managers want.

you won't believe how easy it is to argue with any degree in your favour and get a job and it's not always the fucking HR manager who does the interviewing

for fuck's sake i scored my first summer job at the age of 16 with nothing as a trader's assistant, i'm still with the company and i'm now doing proper trading with still no degree

do you seriously think HR only stares at the big words of P.h.D in your resumë and ignore the personality sitting in front of them?
.

>>55001396
You really are entitled, aren't you?

Guess somebody struck a nerve.

Make sure to tell mommy and daddy the mean man wouldn't leave your thread.

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north is a rotting civilization

have a close look at russia


that is your future , precious , delusional goyim

>>55001396
Some of those people with such a degree will get well payed jobs.
Most won't.

>50k
How much is this after taxes, insurances and debts?

>>55001437
Some score. Most not.
And to have parents somewhere is a very succesful secret.

>>55001437
I actually was shocked.
He had a PhD in philosophy, once something that was seen as something valuable and great in this country.

Those humanistic shit has never been as worthless as it is now in history.

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>>55001456
>And to have parents somewhere is a very succesful secret.

lol thanks for suspecting me of nepotism but i'm not fennoswede nor do i come from a particularly rich family, my dad is a plumber and my mum is a secretary at some gubment office

>>55001223

For the most part, the older people I've worked with (my job is training adults)

The 40+ are nicer people, they don't have this "you're paid to train me, so you are my servant, spoonfeed me so I never have to solve another problem again" attitude.

Our generation wants to live in a delusional little bubble where they never accept the real world for what it is and think they are great at everything.

Fat isn't beautiful bitch, you only have one job - do some cardio. (men have to do cardio, earn 6 figures, be smart and funny to be attractive to you).

Nobody's persecuting you anymore for being gay, its still weird to see two guys kiss - we don't have to think it's magical.

Being ethnic makes life a little harder, less girls want you, the police keep an eye on you, you have to be better at you job than a white person to get the same respect.

The world isn't fair, we are animals that have invented an idea because it makes us feel fuzzy inside. Emotions aren't reality, see the world for as it is or stay in your 'gender studies' hugbox and blame the patriarchy for your inability to make somehing of yourself.

>>55000107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9bVnQPaj48

>>55001399
https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/fullreport.pdf
https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Recovery2020.ES_.Web_.pdf
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/education/2018-60-percent-job-openings-will-require-college-education

How about you educate yourself before you shit up this board with your ignorance?
>>55001440
The only thing that struck a nerve were your uninformed posts complaining about people superior to you.
>>55001456
Of course most of the population won't get a good paying job since they're limited.
>How much is this after taxes, insurances and debts?
Depends per personal situation.

>>55001456
About $44,000 after federal taxes, assuming you took the standard deduction ($6,300) and personal exemption ($4,000).

>>55001529
>Depends per personal situation.
What will I be able to afford from this?

Proper car?
House?
A travel once a year?

I'm not even studied and can afford all those as a young man already.

I often think why do people even put efford in those degrees, having a proper aprenticeships pays clearly more and makes it easier to find a job (german situation I know you don't have this aprenticeship thing).

>>55001335


>>55001335

You're ignorant but you don't want to admit it

Google 'stakeholder/investor communications' - look at the salary, and then kindly stop posting

>>55001573
>I often think why do people even put efford in those degrees, having a proper aprenticeships pays clearly more and makes it easier to find a job
For the last time, university isn't supposed to be job training, it's not about the pay.

>>55001565
So how much is the part i can use for my life?

>>55001576
>Investor relations jobs can allow a finance-minded individual to work within the industry without having to crunch the numbers themselves. Publicly traded companies often make use of relations specialists to pitch investment opportunities or explain standards and practices to would-be investors. For this job, you need twin talents: you need to be a "people person" with strong public speaking and outreach skills, but you also need the financial knowledge necessary to sell individuals on the benefits offered by your firm.

I'm not ignorant at all. I have an MBA and masters in tax.

Its depressing that university used to be free (to create a more educated population, allowing you to pursue a love of Chemistry, literature, or French).

Now we pay £10k a year to get chastised for liking something

>>55001691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGx3TAj7qwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOeLUCeDsA

>>55001691
isn't the free market education wonderful

>>55001676

Did you know you can get those jobs without a degree in either communications, finance or a degree at all?

The degree is less important than the professional qualifications along the way.

>>55001676
Who the fuck even offers a master's in tax? Did you go to San Jose State or something?

>>55001741
you can also just as easily get it with pure communications degree compared to some finance degree or accounting or tax because the company is more than willing to train you the basics if you present yourself as a professional relations expert

>>55001751
Oh, you silly child. Tax is incredibly complex, and it's great to get a masters in it in tandem with an undergraduate degree in accounting. It gives you the required 150 hours to become a CPA and prepares you for the tax service line.

>>55001719
>worthless degree
Oxymoron

>>55001788
I've just never heard of a reputable school offering it is all. I figured it was like a degree in criminal justice. And I think you must overstate its benefits. I know multiple tax professors, CPAs, and CMAs. Not a single one of them has a master's in tax. Universally, theirs is in something like "Accounting and Finance" or plain accounting.

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Something something people don't get you can't afford all this nice stuff even while you work a minimum wage job

>>55001860

You made the error of implying that an academic is the best source of up to date skills.

>>55001776
>pure communications degree
There are people doing this?
Well maybe in Finland you can get a job with this, here you are a studied long term jobless dude.
Never heard of anyone with such a degree tho.

>>55001860
You don't need a masters in tax to become a CPA--it's just a specialized degree and is very helpful if you know that you want to go into the tax service line. You can just get a masters in accounting, especially if you only want to be a management accountant. Also, your professors aren't a good example, because standards have changed quite dramatically in the last few years. You used to have enough education credits to become a CPA with just an undergraduate degree. Now you need 150 hours, so most people go for their masters. Some are lucky enough to somehow fit 150 in their undergrad, but it's rare.

>>55001906
>Skip parties to fit 150 hours into their undergrad program
>Luck

>>55001906

I'd ask you to kill yourself but I'm going to wait until you fuck someone's taxes up and they sue you so hard, jews build a monument to it

>>55001891
You made the error of not being able to read. I know practicing CPAs and CMAs. Nobody did anything but a master's in accounting (if that) to get to their 150.

>>55001947
1.) You're not personally liable for someone's tax return. If the IRS determines that there is a deficiency (i.e., they're underpaying), that's the taxpayer's fault.

2.) I don't plan on doing individual taxes. I'm more interested in consulting for pass-through entities and corporations.

>>55001184
Philosophy is the highest paying of all the humanities when it comes to out of uni jobs. All governments, hospitals and large corporations have ethicists on good pay rolls. Not to mention philosophy is an incredible useful degree for anything about psychology or counseling. Plus philosophy is an extremely versatile subject that can be crossed with enormous amounts of other disciples to create a really attractive CV. It's no wonder that in my country so many people in ministries have some sort of philosophy background.

>>55001981
You're not liable to the IRS. You're still guarantee to get sued by the taxpayer if you do something completely catastrophic.

>>55000894
>Millennials can absolutely afford a house and a car if they saved up for it.
Try saving up for a house in London on a £20k a year salary m8. The average house price is more than 25 times my annual wage.

>>55002009
Minimum wage in London is 27K I thought?

>>55000808
Poland should serve the Jews because they're too stupid to have any kind of economy on their own and still have a shit quality of life anyway. Plus they're always so booty blasted for being Jew free. #genocidepoles

>>55001984

We are too far removed from the society in Plato's Republic for everyday people to see value in it.

>>55001246
The only reason you get paid so well is because your trade is in demand. If everyone took your advice and got a trade you wouldn't have any work. You're just lucky that you thought of doing something that for some bizarre reason young people think is stupid.

>>55002004
See #2.

And even if I did do individual returns, the odds of me fucking it up would be incredibly slim. There are plenty of controls and reviews.

>>55002038
Point #1 is still clearly wrong, even if you never plan on doing taxes.

>>55002038

in response to >>55001981, I sincerely hope some 25 year old with no tread left on her tires gets drunk and hits you going 80 MPH since every accounting major who actually gets somewhere is so fucking smug

>>55002031
That has nothing at all to do with anything I said. Everyone is far removed from the society in Plato's republic because it never existed. Also it's simplistic to think of Plato's ideal state as to actual refer to a state.

>>55002028

£20k is standard grad job money here.

Minimum wage is closer to £15k

>>55002028
>Minimum wage in London is 27K I thought?
I wish, unless that's in dollars or something. Minimum wage is £6.70 an hour, it's not any different for London.

Some companies agree to pay a "living wage" though, which is what the government decided is the minimum a person needs to live on (£9.15 in London). It's not mandatory though, and it's mostly ignored.

>>55002038
I will also note that PwC and the like get sued on a constant basis by their clients. I guess you won't personally get sued, which is nice.

>>55002058
It's not wrong. You're not personally liable if a taxpayer withholds material information. Sure, if there was a serious fuck-up, they could sue for malpractice, but that's the beauty of LLCs and corporations. I wouldn't be sued personally.

>>55000107

Participation trophy generation.

Basically we were told we were special, that our happiness is above all, that we have to do something we love and something magical for the world.

The issue is that most of them are unaware that doing something for 40-50 hours a week is going to kill passion for most people, and otherwise people with opportunities for mid level office jobs that might be a bit mundane pass it up because they want their "calling in life"

>>55002063
Get fucked liberal arts major. Maybe Uncle Bernie will get you all the free stuff you're too lazy to work for.

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I just want to live in a small rural town and ride dirt bikes and have bonfires in my back yard.

I can't though because the FUCKING BOOMERS DESTROYED RURAL AREAS

NOW THERE ARE NO JOBS OUT THERE THANKS TO ALL THE FREE TRADE BULLSHIT YOU SUPPORTED

FUCKING CUNTS

>>55002113
>Participation trophy generation.
That would create poor workers not lack of work.

>>55002111
It's 100% wrong. Yeah, you're not personally liable if the taxpayer withholds information, but where in the original post did it say anything about the taxpayer withholding anything? You're liable like you would be liable in most cases: when you're at fault.

People are spoiled nowadays. Our parents did shit jobs to reach the level they are at today, while we refuse to do a shit job because of pride and being spoiled.
Even a prince has to bow to a king, we're no better.

>>55002163
No, I wouldn't. Learn about how LLPs, LLCs, and corporations are structured. A client wouldn't personally sue me. If it were especially egregious, maybe I'd get fired, but that's all.

GET OFF 4CHAN AND DO AN ONLINE COURSE - START A SMALL BUSINESS - MAKE THINGS HAPPEN

>>55002032
I thank you for the kind words and you are correct in saying that my trade is in demand (butcher) but it is also in demand across the world I can go and get a good job anywhere like someone else said in this thread Alot of Youngsters lack thinking skills

>>55002111
I will also note that most accounting firms are LLPs rather than LLCs.

>>55002113
>Basically we were told we were special, that our happiness is above all, that we have to do something we love and something magical for the world.

>tfw your father is a cynic that called everything you do useless, makes fun of it, and never showed any forms of acknowledgement towards you

;_; please give me this bright feeling

>>55002212

I hope you make enough money to open up another site anon.

>>55002192
Man, in your original scenario you're just a guy doing taxes. Now you're working for some accounting firm. I know perfectly well how liability works.

>>55000107
republicans.

>>55002256
No one does that though. Maybe if you want some side money, but a tax preparer working under a sole proprietorship is unlikely.

>>55002212
>butcher
>tfw we have a horrible lack in butchers here
>tfw it was once a high respected traditional German craftsmenship that expressed the german love for meat
>tfw hipster kits are vegans and shit on our long and various tradition of meat arts

>>55000107
i really like her chin

>>55001086
Underappreciated post

>>55001086
it isn't much less.
Here it makes about 5% that we have less.

Anon has right, back then there were less consum goods that you (really absolutly need and are forced) to buy and people concetrated more on the important things.

If I just think about it: In 20 years of work I earnt around 500k € and a comfy house costs 300-400k €.
A comfy car comes with 15k-20k € (of course not new, I'm not retarded)

I can stretch this aims and go around teh world for vocations. Just think about it. It's actually only an earning of 25k€ per year.

Also: All numbers after taxes.

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>>55002301
yes thankfully we love the meat crafts down here in aus

Legit question,

I know of a business for sale (strip club) for about £100,000 + yearly rent it would be ready to go.

Is there any way to get a sort of business mortgage?

I'm young and would rather buy that than a flat desu

>>55002397
do you really think we are going to take a german seriously when they talk about the economy?

>>55002420

don't do it.

clubbing is dying

>>55002420
yes there is just go talk to your bank about it but do you have the knowledge on how to run a strip club have you scoped out eh club to see if it makes enuf $$$ to be worth it

>>55002420
how hot are the girls?

>>55002440
>clubbing is dying
u wot

Capitalism is dying and it's because we have been humanizing capitalism. And when we humanize something, it automatically means that humanized entity will die eventually,

>>55002438
I'm considered poor after German standards.
Middle class is 40k/year.

What is with you High_Salary_Muhrica?
Where is Uropoor meme?
Is living really that expensive in the USA that you can't have a nice living with your 20 Trillion $ per hour earning as a store clerk?

>>55000107
Wage inflation <<real inflation
House prices tripled
Jobs are in China now
10 million Pedro/Abdul to compete with one the few jobs left
Taxes skyrocketed to pay for the jobless

I am not making excuses for the millenials, they are shit, but with the culture they received and the conditions they live in, there is not much they can do.

>>55002454

>Between 2001 and 2011 the number of discotheken in the Netherlands fell by 38%. In Britain there were 3,144 clubs in 2005 but only 1,733 ten years later, says the Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers; in 2015 revenues were £1.2 billion ($1.7 billion), down from £1.5 billion in 2010. In Berlin, although the number of music venues has been stable at about 350 (120 of which are clubs), several long-established night spots have closed their doors.

>As cities gentrify, local politicians are getting stricter about clubs. Madame JoJo’s, a burlesque bar in London’s Soho, had its licence revoked in 2014 after two bouncers brandished a baseball bat at a rowdy crowd. In December the owners of Fabric at last won a year-long court battle against Islington Council, the local borough, which wanted to introduce drug-sniffing dogs. Last year in Berlin two clubs were closed down for fire-code violations.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21685519-lights-are-going-out-night-clubs-all-over-europe-less-ecstatic

t. economist reader

>>55002501
Why don't you come here?
We really have a lack in working population.
To many jobs here...
I do so many overhours. Pls halp ;_;

I strongly regret going to university to get a fucking language degree.

>>55002491
sucks to be poor.

>>55002522

because it's fucking shit living in Germany. Oh well, still better than Asia...and i like the language and recent history.

because everyone under 25 is autistic and has the attention span of a gnat

the idea of waking up at 6am, working from 9am til 5pm, and repeating this, simply does not compute for these people

i will say that older generations had something to work for (a family, wife, children etc) when divorce wasn't so easy and your wife couldn't walk away with 50% because of feelings, but there you go.

there's only so much motivation someone can have to work for money to be used on anime pillows and video games

>>55002512
Huh, I didn't know that.

I would have assumed the business was going strong.

>>55002524
I understand, brother. We're on a same boat.

>>55002491
40k€ a year after all the taxes is the equivalent of $75k per year in the US because everything is free.

>>55002557

9am 8pm masterrace. I hate it.

>>55000107
more women in the workforce clearly

>>55002522
Is this what you say to the refugees? I am sure unemployment is a problem in Germany too.

>>55002567

oh, you don't even remotely know the irony of you replying to my post.

>>55002524
What language did you study at uni?

>>55002557

I love to buy things a lot and I'm working hard to get them but it's just retarded to alienate yourself to buy a BMW if you can alienate someone else to buy yourself a BMW.

>>55002593
All I know is that we need to destroy capitalism mostly because capitalism no longer serves the masses.

>>55002621
agreed you cant trust people that have cheated and clawed thier way to the top to be decent human beings anymore. Its nothing like it was in the 1950's.

>>55002595

a fucking asian language. Wish i did english, german and russian instead.

>>55002648
lol, were you stuck with a bunch of girls obsessed with kpop?

people want more money without giving it away. so now you are competing work with rat people of pakistan. he needs 1 dollar to pay his house and shit son. you need 5k. who do you think they wanna pay?

>>55002522
4.5% of your active population is living off welfare.
Are you SURE you have so many jobs left?

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WHO DIS?

>>55002587
Unemployment is relative.
Some regions and some professions have it difficult, but of they really want to work they will find it in another branche or region.

The biggest ammount of our jobless people are single mothers (no time to work) and people 50+ (too old to be profitable to give a save job).
that's already like 90% of jobless people.

>>55002666

it was drama at first. The kpop shit started immediately afterwards.
Oh well, at least i've found a job. I just wish i could work just fucking 8 hours each day.

>>55002685
you guys have bigger problems than unemployment thanks to your progressive gobment. Enjoy habeeb shitting in the streets.

Because people nowadays value themselves way to high up in the scale. My mother worked as a cook in a restaurant while my father was making his Master degree in Chicago.
People nowadays only want jobs that are oriented towards their degree. A job is a job, is either that or living like a naked hippie in the forest while flaunting yourself over the tesis you made about Carl Marx and his views over flip-flops or whatever.

>>55002642
America's Founding Fathers fought for liberty, not (crony) capitalism.

>>55002707

look who is talking about progressive government, it took your great democratic president and the USSR to bring down Europe when it was beautiful and blonde.

>>55002670
here >>55002685

Minimum wage is 8,50€/hour (Bavaria 10€)
21 holydays per law (in most companies more), average working weak is 40 hours.

Pls join a labour union.

>>55002700
I apologize for destroying your life. I'm a Korean who also fights against Korean pop culture.

>>55002718
no they fought to keep people that had money in power. Everything they wrote was meant for the rich. Luckily in this day and age it can be interpreted as for the people.

whats the point on having a bad paid job. i rather kill myself

>>55002441
I was asst manager at a bar few years back.

Would check the numbers before buying, but I wanted to see if it's even possible.

>>55002453
5 Solid 7s, but I've got ways to find a couple new girls.

>>55000221
>Because most members of this generation, like all generations, are dumb and lazy
>by far the most educated population in the history of this country
Yes, there is an excess of skilled jobs in various fields and an entire generation of college graduates just refuse to work, that's the problem.

I know you think you're cool that you put yourself above your peers by regurgitating grandpa's rants, but it's comments like that which tell everyone that you're a dumbass.

>>55000107

All low paying jobs were moved to Ching Chongistan. The only solution is to elect Bernie Sanders to end our suffering.

>>55002783
I mean the whole reason america became a sovereign nation was because rich people didnt want to pay taxes.

>>55002548
>because it's fucking shit living in Germany.
We are special people. Learn to love the difference.
I like it here, the people are nice and funny.

>>55002746
Single mothers can work too. They did that in all history of mankind, they can do it again. Want to know how the magic work? get a single mother to keep the kids of some other single mothers, get them to work and pay the one that keep the kids. If they want to break the notion of family that is what keep them away from working, they should enjoy the consequences.
50 year old people are stubborn but they have experience. They could do any job they want if they were not so proud of themselves.

And if no one want to be a butcher or a plumber, the pay for this job will rise and you will see a single mother doing it.

If you have job undone and unemployment, no quantity of immigration can help you, it's your culture you have to change.

>>55002885
This world needs more socialism. I don't hate capitalism, but if capitalism cannot sustain billions of average people in the long run, then it's better not to support capitalism.

>>55002677
Soe Gschwind-Penski

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>>55002905
funny.

Here for people who think new generations are more degenerate http://www.vox.com/a/teens

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Because the wage growth here has been lower than the growth in house pricing for decades. When my parents bought a house it was a significantly smaller purchase relative to their income.

>>55002718
If they fought for liberty why did they have slaves? Why did they commit genocide against the indigenous population? Why did they discriminate against Asians? Why were women not allowed a say in government? Why were women discriminated against in law? How come people who didn't own land allowed a say in anything? How come only 1% of the population being rich, white and land holding before the revolution that they started ended with that same 1% being the only people allowed to vote?

>>55002804

you all say "i would kill muhself" but you never do it. Do you think i wouldn't do it if i had the balls? I just want to be inside a pretty girl and have monies to buy things.

>>55002913
trusting people that ruined peoples lives to get where they are is just about as retarded as you can be.

>>55002935
they didnt fight for liberty thats the narrative they want you to believe though.

>>55002913

i can understand your thirst for social welfare but you have to understand socialism has nothing to do with welfare and decent pensions.
Socialism is mass starvation.

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I've got a home and it's bitchin'.

Can someone go on vocaroo and see if it works? It's not working for me for some reason.

>>55002978
free market is legalized slavery though.

>>55001054
>I feel like I'm a pretty well-developed person.
You're most likely only well-developed within your niche

>>55002906
I don't think you understand that unemployment means people are unable to find work not necessarily that they are sitting at home watching anime crying about how hard life is. In the case of people over the age of 50, businesses are often reluctant to take on older workers because they are likely to retire soon and are less likely to be able to put in the hours or overtime that a 30yr old can. As for single mothers it depends but here at least childcare costs thousands per year which will bring the income of a single mother below what it would be on welfare+ they do not get the quality time with children as much.

>>55002906
The thing is not the ability to work.
Single mothers can afford a comfortable life on welfare due to the children + former husband/father of children paying thewm out for them being whores.
Our system don't forces them to work because: dem keeds need da mudda - meme

those 50 years dudes are often looking for jobs but mainly get only something for short term if even. Their experience doesn't counts much since their are mainly low skilled or with a humanist degree (pretty much same as low skilled).

You would have great chances of a good life here.
But well, when you want to stick to complains.

One negative aspect is that the women are maybe one of the lowest tier on this planet.

>>55002978
>Socialism is mass starvation.

Or mass stability. It depends on one's view.

>>55003003

you wish you had a white master whitening your people and providing you with clothes and an house.
Too bad. Thanks to ol' Abe no more slavery.

>>55003042
Capitalism is slavery and/or Soviet style concentration camp.

>>55002978
>Socialism is mass starvation.
You don't see very many people starving to death in these wealthy, socialised European countries m8

>>55003012
Its a known fact that if you want to be treated fairly and get paid well that you have to work for the government these days. The government is the only emplyment where laws are in place to make sure you dont get fucked over. Capitalism is for the ultra rich and anyone with half a brain realizes this. Luckily there are government jobs to offset this madness.

>>55002917
thanks bruv

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>>55003012
The formation to become a butcher is one year. If you become an apprentice you can get money from month one.

If you have a physical handicap so severe that you can't type on a keyboard or a mental retardation that make you shit in your pant, they you can't find a job. Otherwise, the fact that you are fine living on welfare play a part.

A potato tard can wash the floor. That guy in a wheelchair can work from home on a computer.

Pic related, this guy have a job. What is your excuse?

>>55002885

Careers guidance was terrible when I was at school desu. We had one assembly where someone told us about apprenticeships, didnt explain much and our only choices were builder or mechanic.

In sixth form there was one session they called 'job interview training'.

When I started in year 7, my school had a "careers counsellor" for people in year 10-11.

When we got to year 10, funding had been cut and he was gone.

Nobody ever asked what I enjoy, and said - have you thought about ___?

I'm only finding out now

>>55002938
I will probably do it this time

>but you never do it
at least 4 people kill themselves every day

>>55003073
That weird feeling that Italy historically had vibrant Communist movements, including Left Communists (Communists who opposed Lenin to this day).

>>55003000
>vocaroo
it's working on my side fampai.

>>55000107
cause you life in murica, no offense

>>55003201
fuuuuggggg.....

>>55003167
That feeling when the USA rigged an Italian election because they didn't like one of the parties.

>>55003023
50 years old don't need long term jobs anyway.
Philosophers make good programmers and developers because they have a logical way of thinking. At least it was the case 10 years ago, I hope it is still about the hunt for mathematical truth.
Sociologists don't need much time to learn how to build a roof or anything in demand.

>But well, when you want to stick to complains.
You can't see my flag or something? Of course I will complain for the rest of my life.
German women are wife material and often above 8/10, you could get worse.

>>55003213
That feeling when South Korea's Conservative pretty much rigged recent elections.

>>55003213
goldman sachs got caught trying to do the same thing they successfully pulled off in america in greece after the fact here in america. Capitalism is not a viable economic theory when people have enough money to buy and sell countries.

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>>55003228
>German women are wife material

>>55003253
That feeling when your country helped create the TPPA.

>>55003309
Want to try French feminist?

>>55002593
Why, you graduated in fucking Korean or something?

>>55003335
german women are pretty feminist as well

>>55002925
huh
I was certain this would be the amplification company

>>55003335
>implying german women aren't worst

If you want to find a cute french woman just go to the countryside tbqh.

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>>55003335
Yes please

>>55003073
heh just wait until greece/finland is continent wide desu

>>55003303
Democracy isn't a viable political theory.

Because you fuckers want everything now.

I save a little and by the time my parrent croak, I'd have enough to buy myself a very nice house. What's the point of owning a house when you're still in your 40's or younger anyway? You might find a better job located in the other end of the country the next month!

>>55003426

don't judge me.

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>>55000107
Because that the market now is filled with women that accept working for slave wages and they happen to lower everybody's wages aswell

>>55001257
Nietzsche barely gets read in the anglo-analytic tradition, just sayin' senpai

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>>55000107

for a whole generation of people to work, have their own roof over their heads and raise a family, there has to be a system in place that functions that way

this was so back in the 1950is maybe, but by 1980is its basicaly over

once upon a time the average guy was useful to the system as a actual producer, meaning there were lots of jobs, but low living standards
as this came to a stall it became obvious the production capacity is fuckhuge, but theres just not enough people to buy shit, so consumerism was invented
that way the average guy became useful as a consumer, and for a while the whole system revolved around geting people to work hard then spend money on crap and higher living standards
however this too came to a stall, since all the jobs went somewhere else, destruction of local industry being a typical result of liberal capitalist logic in any and all places it was ever aplyed, and continuous rise in production worldvide made shit realy cheap, so simply selling people shit, especialy unemployed people, became less and less profitable
for a while this was controled trough shit like credit cards, artificialy inflating peoples capacity to buy shit, but eventualy you had to get people more and more in debt for this to work cause theres just so much basic shit people will buy, so you had to sell them 'meta-shit' like credits/mortgages and other financial derivate bullshit
so today we have this retarded situation in which the average guy is useful to the system as a debitor, simply, as someone who owes money, not a worker, not even a consumer, just a guy that owes money

in other words the capitalism no longer has interest in you or me owning anything realy, all the cicles and bubbles that were about selling people shit are over, the ones that were about organising people to work are even farther away in history and probably wont come back

the whole conception of society and economy no longer makes any real sense, probably never did

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>>55001257
>nietzsche
>philosophy

A 6 years old can read Nietzsche.
Come up with some serious shit lel.

>>55003841

so, basicaly, the story is over, the game has been played out, theres nothing left to gain, we should all just pack up and head for the country, grow pot, raise pigs or wathever, drop acid every day and breed like rabits with kalašnjikofs

thats pretty much it now, nothing else is left, except maybe wars in the near future, other than that the ride is over, even the population is dying, its all done

>>55003978
Please explain why nihilism is not a rational viewpoint?

>>55000107
Because the net energy available to society is decreasing, therefore complexity decreases along with it. A decrease i complexity means less jobs. More people are born every day than die every day. So basically in a nutshell, society is very slowly (couple of hundred years) moving into a dark age, and every second that passes it is statistically harder to get a job than the second before it. Read some John Michael Greer for the inside scoop.

>>55000107
Short term.
http://www.ianwelsh.net/the-economy-has-not-recovered-with-graphs/

In the long term, it had to do with the Reagan revolution where Reagan refused to enforce the laws protecting unions. This prevented labour from having collective leverage.

Other thing was the Greenspan Put, where Greenspan would lower the rates whenever bankers needed a boost, but raise them again and crash the economy when the workers' income started to rise.

The bailouts and the crash were foreseen by Wray et al and in ended up making the rich richer and the poor poorer ust like he said.

>>55004210
Sort of. But I think it'll be faster. Have you checked out Gail Tverberg, who might just be the most brilliant woman alive?

She has looked at how the financial system functions and expects the whole thing to collapse in a few years. There was a famous Iron Age collapse which happened like that, it is a function of complex, interlocked systems.

Still, the state could for now create demand to help people get decent jobs.

>>55000107
>Why can't our generation find well paying jobs, afford to buy homes or buy new cars?

I knew this post was American before even checking the flag.

Most of my friends in their mid 20s already have the whole package. Rural home, multiple cars, well-paying jobs from academic degrees.

>>55004431
>There was a famous Iron Age collapse which happened like that
Does it have a name? The idea of some sort of early historic economic collapse sounds interesting.

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>>55000107
My only car has been brand new and I'm swapping it for another this year

Never even had a job lel

>>55004464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyry8mgXiTk

Fugg, I thinks it's still bronze age. Sorry, it's early.

>>55004431
>financial system functions and expects the whole thing to collapse in a few years
I guess you can't create money out of thin air forever xD :DD

>>55000107
Because:
>we are spoiled idiots and fucked ups
>we dont have an economy like baby boomers
>generation x spent it all on rubbish.

>>55000107

Because of the transport and information revolution, aka globalization

Rich people can hire 3rd world slaves instead of paying for your cars and homes.

>>55004489
During the Ceausescu era everyone in Romania, had an appartement, a job, and 0% debt. What have you done to your self.

>>55000107
Boomer generations fault.

Made the job market nearly impossible for people with no experience to get even an entry level job at anything outside of bar work/retail.

You have to drop incredibly lucky, or know someone in a business that's in a position to give you a chance.

I don't think our generation is any more lazy than previous generations. It's demoralised from the lack of opportunities. Still no excuse for many of the NEET's here.

>Uni is damn near unattainable
>Can't get a job with a degree
>Small country so only very few well paying jobs available
Life here is suffering,but I have a job until March I guess

>>55002501
This. Except for the taxes thing for us tho.

>>55002524
fucking retard

t. tax lawyer