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>Is the people in your country, self-haters or patriots?

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>Is the people in your country, self-haters or patriots?
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Everyone here is self-haters
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>>51206128
Anime.
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I hate your country. Why can't you be a banana republic.
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I dunno
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both desu baka senpai
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both
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>>51206128
Self haters, because there is no real reason for this country to be this pathetic.
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How did i like this fuckin shithole?
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>>51206128
kind of both lol
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>>51206680
brazil's pretty much 'banana republic: the country' senpai
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they are either one thing or the other, there's no middle ground. people is too passionate and irrational here.
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>>51206335
>>51207560
>>51207561

Proven, self-haters
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Both and both are retarded.
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>>51207689
I bet you voted for Dilma, thanks for destroying the economy for the next 20 years.
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>>51206128
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>>51206680
FODASE AMERICANO TROXA HEUHEUHEUEHUHEUEH YUO BI FAGGUT HAHAHHA BRASIL IS THE BEST 11/9 BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

>>51207560
I CAN FEEL D BUTTHURT FAGGOT\

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T. FAVELADO
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None of them Tbh,if anything we dislike our government but not the country itself
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both at the same time
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>>51207806

It's 9/11 you idiot.
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Comparing only with south america, i wish i were born in Argentina or Chile.
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>>51207796
Brazil único país que torce pro avião cair porque não gosta do piloto
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>>51208420
se muda pra la então bostão, ninguem te quer aqui
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>>51208420

Why would you want to be Argentinean?
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>>51208420
You are the reason why Brazil is so shitty.

Can't you even make such a small move?
Do you need god to take you there?

Impressively out of touch.
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Why is it that shitty countries that have no reason to be proud are the most patriotic, while actually good countries with a lot to be proud about are the least patriotic?
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>>51206128
The people of my country are chinks, shitskins, and old decrepit white people

Canadian patriotism is dead
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There used to be lots of self hatees on here, but haven't noticed it for quite some time. I think they went back to school or just couldn't handle our shitposting.
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>>51208632
>chile aways did better than Brazil economically and is currently the country in latin america that sends the most students to international unis.
>they are not seem as filthy monkeys by foreigners
>they are not hated by Israel
>their leadership is less retarded
>A LOT less crime
>they were not utterly completely and permanently humiliated at their national sport
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I don't think /int/ understands what self-hate actually is. Self-hate only applies to something like patriotism if someone literally role-plays as a country or anthropomorphizes a country as a self.

If you hate the area you live in, that's environmental hate, or hatred of the other, not the self. Usually it coincides with an elevated sense of self love if anything "I'm better than my environment, I deserve more than this shitty area"
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>>51206128
Self-hatriots 2bh. We hate Ireland when we're in it but suddenly can't stop extolling the virtues of the country and people the second we sit down on the plane out.
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>>51208918

They are irrelevant as fuck. Everyone thinks there is only Native Americans in Andes or they are just another Mexico.
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>>51206128
they are patriots toward the republic therefore they hate their own country
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>>51206128
One does not exclude the other desu. I can be a patriot and not be delusional or blind about the glaring problems of my country.
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>>51208701
You don't have to prove to someone that you are a good country when it's a established fact already
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Why is every thread about self-haters full of brazilians?
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>>51208701
because patriotism is a ideology only low educated folks buy, just like religion
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>>51213181
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>>51213249
>being this christianboo
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>>51213249
Vc no devia ta na missa parça?
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>>51209159
theyre pretty much the least latin of the continent, the least fucking crazy and the most organized, Chile could actually get us out of this latin misery
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>>51211802
Your country's a fucking mess? It's just at that middle ground between being a good country and being a buttfuck retarded one where the people are too dumb to even lament their situation.
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>>51207546
>>51208141
We can all agree on this
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>patriotic about the first half of the 20th century
>try to make everyone forget about the second half
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>>51213460

>the least latin

They are just Mexicans for the rest of the world. Or Native andeans
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>>51213181
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>>51206128
Brazil is a shithole, so it's not self-hate, it's realism.
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>>51206561
I don't know , can you repeat the question ?
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both, of we talk with another spaniard self haters, if a foreigner say shit about our country then we are patriotic.
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>>51213758
This.
>>51213777
Good god good trips
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yes to both
we are very proud and will instantly fling shit at eachother too
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>>51206128
Patriots but Sardinians are self haters
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Both.
Not sure how.
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Brazil is the country with most self haters

People LOVE to talk shit about this place, its incredible
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>>51213927
Say to me 1(one) good thing about Brazil.
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The only time you will see a HINT of patriotism is during world cup
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>>51213961
Next world cup there won't be that much patriotism after what Germany did. People will be less eager to put all their pride at our shit soccer team.
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>>51214017
I hope you're wrong

I dont like soccer, but the sentiment that borns during world cup is beautiful.

Its for an stupid reason, but its the only period people actually feel they are in an country


I would say the opposite side of this is USA, i have never seen people more crazy in loved for their country than those guys, its insane
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>>51207626

I don't think you know what "banana republic" means.
12 seconds in google, all you need. Why is it so difficult for you?
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>>51213812
Pretty much the same for Mexico, self-hate among Mexicans but if some foreigner attacks Mexico people become very patriotic.
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>>51214244
>Banana republic is a political science term for a politically unstable country, whose economy is largely dependent on exporting a limited-resource product, e.g. bananas. It typically has stratified social classes, including a large, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy of business, political, and military elites.[1] This politico-economic oligarchy controls the primary-sector productions to exploit the country's economy.[2]

Brazil fits perfectly into the term "banana republic".
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>>51214519

Nah.
>largest export:
iron

Politics are NOT controlled by the iron mining industry.
The economy is actually pretty diverse too.

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/bra/
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>>51214244
Brazil IS a banana republic.
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self haters maybe
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>>51214836
Japan has nothing to be ashamed of other than creating a legion of virgins worldwide.
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>>51213951
your racemixed women are sexy as fuck
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>>51214884
>has white girls in his country
>wants anything else
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>>51214519

Since apparently you can't understand english wikipedia, read the portuguese article.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rep%C3%BAblica_das_Bananas

>>51214747

[citation needed]
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Canada is very patriotic. Not as retardedly so as Americans, but close
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I have always lived in cities, and it's mainly self hate and guilt. What with all the shit we've done to the environment, the Middle East, dindus, etc.

Most of the rhetoric is about changing America though, not about leaving the country or anything.

So I suppose it's a hate for our own culture, but a love for our country.
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>>51215070
A
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>>51215070
>Canadians will literally always be obsessed with proving they are better than us
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Self haters should just move elsewhere, or kill themselves tbqh
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>>51214884
I dont like them very much des but this lady here make muh dicks diamonds everytime desu
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>>51215199
what
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>>51206128
Half and half.
Republicans and libertarians are patriots, democrats and communists are idiots (self-haters).
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>Toronto
>Vancouver
Self haters
>Everywhere else
Patriots
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>>51215295
Would you describe yourself as a patriot?
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Definitely self hating and insecure when it comes to what the other world thinks of Finland.
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growing number of self haters, shrinking number of uber nationalists, shrinking number of rational people
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>>51214973
>Since apparently you can't understand english wikipedia, read the portuguese article.

Are you mentally retarded?

Let me post it again.

>Banana republic is a political science term for a politically unstable country, whose economy is largely dependent on exporting a limited-resource product, e.g. bananas. It typically has stratified social classes, including a large, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy of business, political, and military elites.[1] This politico-economic oligarchy controls the primary-sector productions to exploit the country's economy.[2]
1. Brazil is one of the most unequal countries on earth
2. Brazil's main export is iron ore and soybeans
3. Brazil's major companies have full monopoly over the economy

Brazil is the 21st century banana republic.
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I guarantee you 90% of people would turn patriotic if they heard people from other countries talking shit about their country, for the same reason 90% of people will defend themselves from insults from people they don't care about.
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Self haters
They get patriotic after they emigrate
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>>51208918
>>chile aways did better than Brazil economicall

kek
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While we don't really have a right-wing in this country, the left are extreme self hating faggots who belong in Canada.

Everyone else rightfully loves their country.
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>>51215721

>1. Brazil is one of the most unequal countries on earth

Does not define a banana republic.

>2. Brazil's main export is iron ore and soybeans

Chile's economy is over 50% based on cooper
yet every day I see people sucking up to Chile for its "strong" economy.
Again, Brazil's economy is very diverse.
The agriculture and mining sectors are the most profitable, but the others aren't very far behind either.

>3. Brazil's major companies have full monopoly over the economy

The country's national industry have great control over the economy. Shocker.

Brazil isn't even close to a banana republic.
Real banana republics have like 80% agrarian economy based on a single product.
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>>51216155
Don't waste your time arguing with him, he has no idea what he's saying. He's just another dumb self-hater.
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>>51216155
>>51216291

This

The major problem of Brazil are those fucking self-haters
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>>51216480
The problem with Brazil is leftist politicians. Do you think anything would change because of the opinion of a channer?
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>>51216155
>Real banana republics have like 80% agrarian economy based on a single product.

That's because the term was coined in an era where agriculture was the main economy of more than half of the world.

The term originated from this:
>The history of the first banana republic begins with the introduction of the banana to the US in 1870, by Lorenzo Dow Baker, captain of the schooner Telegraph. He initially bought bananas in Jamaica and sold them in Boston at a 1,000 percent profit.[7] The banana proved popular with Americans, as a nutritious tropical fruit that was less expensive than fruit grown locally in the U.S., such as apples. In 1913, for example, twenty-five cents bought a dozen bananas, but only two apples.[8] Its popularity among Americans was also spurred by the American railroad tycoons Henry Meiggs and his nephew, Minor C. Keith, who in 1873 began establishing banana plantations along the railroads they built in Costa Rica to produce food for their railroad workers. This experience led them to recognize the potential profitability of exporting bananas for sale, and they began exporting the fruit to the Southeastern United States.[9]


These days, any country that doesn't have a strong national brand is a banana republic.

American workers are too expensive for Ford to have a factory in USA, Brazil is poor, so Ford opens a factory in Brazil and Brazilians produce the car at 1/10 the cost.

Americans workers are too expensive for Apple to have a production line in USA, China is poor and has plenty of workforce, Apple opens a production line in China and produces the Iphone at 1/10 the cost.

The thing is, while China is making those Iphones, they're also developing their own global brands such as Lenovo, Huawei, Chery, Zotac. Meanwhile Brazil spent the entire last decade selling iron ore to China and now Brazilians are asking what happened to the Brazilian economy.
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>>51216547
Although I also don't like PT I have to disagree with you.

Some of the worse decades of our history were under rightwing measures. Because they are just as corrupt. In fact, the rightwing parties nowadays are not only the most corrupt by number of politicians involved in schemes but also in total of money stolen.

Corruption is the real problem. I don't mind and I even believe it's healthy to have left and right alternating the power, as long as we tackle the main problem of corruption.
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>>51216714

>let me copy and paste this I found in wikipedia

lad...

>These days, any country that doesn't have a strong national brand is a banana republic.

m8

what is taurus
what is embraer
what is petrobras
what is jbs
what are countless other international companies from brazil that i don't remember from the top of my head right now
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>>51216291
>>51216480
>b-BRAZIL STRONK!

>Brazilian economy will shrink 3% in 2015 and 1.5% in 2016
>BUT IF WE ELECT AECIO BRAZIL WILL GROW 25% PER YEAR!
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Por que vocês não discutem isso no /luso/, em mulherzinhas dramáticas?
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>>51216842

>what is taurus

Pic related.

>what is embraer

American engines, Japanese avionics, Portuguese fuselage.

>what is jbs

What is this?

>what are countless other international companies from brazil that i don't remember from the top of my head right now

Because they don't exist.
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>>51216952

>Pic related.

>what are defects

>American engines, Japanese avionics, Portuguese fuselage.

Nah.
The components can be from anywhere.
The design and development is brazilian.
>portuguese fuselage
actually, the company that builds the fuselage in portugal is owned by embraer.

>What is this?

Pretty much the largest meat processing company in the world, and one of the largest food industries in general.
ever heard of friboi?

>Because they don't exist.

Yes they do. If you care about it so much, go google it.
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>>51217165
>The components can be from anywhere.

USA is the only country on earth that produces commercial-grade engines.

Brazil doesn't and will never produce an engine. Even Gripen NG uses American engines.


>Yes they do. If you care about it so much, go google it.


So in conclusion: Brazil is a banana republic.
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>>51217594
I agree with this anon

USA is the only country on earth that produces commercial-grade engines.

Every country but USA is a banana republic. ALL OF THEM.
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>>51217821
China, Russia, UK, France, Japan, Germany all produce military-grade engines. And all these countries have smaller population than Brazil.

Brazil is a banana republic, deal with it or commit suicide. I don't care.
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>>51217594

>USA is the only country on earth that produces commercial-grade engines.
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>>51206561
>t. The Town Rapist
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>>51217954
>And all these countries have smaller population than Brazil
>China

Where are you hiding the other billion?
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yeah, both
but i'm 1/45 german so no problem
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Fuck all you self-hating little bitches
Brazil is awesome and I love my country
I know it has some (or a lot of) flaws and it might not be the most relevant, educated, and corruption-free country in the world, but this is where I was born and I love this place

t. white brazilian
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>>51218109
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why are brazilians so hard themselves?
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>>51218323
Im hard for u tb'h
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>>51218323
because most of them tend to justify their misery relating it to these country flaws
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In Brazil:
Patriots - Left-Wing
Self-Haters - Right-Wing
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They are mostly uneducated shitposters
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We're huge self-hate patriots. :D

Kinda like Stockholm syndrome.
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>>51220917
you better have a girly penis and a cute but hole
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>>51206501
>>51206533
>>51206561
I don't know
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>>51221182
>because most of them tend to justify their misery relating it to these country flaws

Self-haters aren't born, they are made.
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>>51206128
I like my country, but I hate the people. Or perhaps I'm just tired of the city.
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>>51206128
Both
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>Non-ironically wanting to live in this shithole at the state that it is in

Fucking retards

Give full autonomy to states to govern themselves and tell the federal government to fuck off,aka a true federation

Also fuck this retarded constitution what the fuck

Revolution when

Civil war when
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>>51206128
PATRIOTS, ALL HAIL EMPORER MACRI THE RULER OF HOLY ARGENTINIAN EMPYRE
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>>51213622
yep, pretty much like that
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>>51206128
Italians are probably the biggest self haters in the world, how we managed to remain pretty much unkeked by European standards is a mistery
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>>51214286
your waifu a shit

>>51225063
Because of us
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>>51225098
wut
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self-hating patriots to be 2bh (2bh = to be honest)
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lalilulelo
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>>51206128
The majority is made up of patriots who don't know why they're patriots. Ask them why they're so passionate and they'll begin boasting about the freedoms this country has to offer (even though most developed countries have the same rights & can often exercise them to a greater extent).
Self-haters, as in apologists? It's common practice for them to oppose everything the nation stands for cuz' it's too damn oppressive (+ white guilt & whatnot). These anomalies refer to themselves as "progressives", ofc equally as stupid.
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you're not the boss of me now
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