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I wouldn't. If somebody attacked Poland, i would escape from it. I find fighting for this impoverished, depopulating and futureless wasteland completely pointless and i don't know anybody who would want to die for it.
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no
desu
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Yes, of course. Samurai must fight.
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Nukes will do it for me
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>implying a choice
More like armed men at your door telling you to go.

But yes, I would.
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You have to be a brainwashed kuckold to be patriotic 2bh. Why would I risk my life to keep some twats in power?
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bald neonazi neanderthals (narodowcy) would fight for it... and maybe some grandpas ;)))))
nobody normal, thats for sure
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>>51090634
Because if the twats that are in power in other countries win, you get Berlin 1945.
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Probably not. I'll leave the fighting to those who have insulted me my whole life for not being patriotic enough. Surely, the loud mouth patriots will be super brace and pick up a rifle to defend this land with their blood and the livelihood of their families. Just wait and see, all of the patriots will band together and defend everything forever.
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Yeah why not. I'd demonstrate greater preaence of mind than shitskins who run away from problems instead of dealing with them. Shitskins would also leave voluntarily from Finland if little green men pay a visit.
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>>51090472
>Would you defend your country?
I have no allegiance to this country. I feel no obligation to defend it and don't see why I should, unless it meant defending my family.
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Depends who attack.
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>>51090634
So you don't get sodomized by bandits in their absence
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>>51090971
Like you can't be sodomized by bandits in peace time.
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Sweden here.

This country is so full of shit now (social justice warriors, immigrants, politically correct facists) that I'm 50/50 about whether or not I would prefer to be made into a Russian proxy state insted.
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>>51090858
defending one's country means that you're defending your family

I'd rather have my family back at homefront relatively safe and far from enemy combatants rather than defending them after the enemy is already on the doorsteps

also if you're fighting the threat in an organized manner you have greater chances of repelling them and actually keeping loved ones safe.
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>>51091030
So you think anything would change?
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Polack here. The mere factthat ive fucked off from my country to make more dolla speaks for itself. Nah i wouldnt, nothing to fight for. Hence no.
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>>51091116

I am moving out too soon. Life here becomes harder with every day, although i can't complain about salary
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>>51090990
I'll take my chances
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>>51091085
Seeing as the last two governments have domesticated the military I'd say it would go relatively quick and painless with a large amount of airforce put in (wouldn't think about invading by land from the north).

The economy would most likely take a sharp downturn but atleast we could stop this gradual decline of Sweden turning into a third-world country within 20 years.

It's either the plague or cholera, really.
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>>51090711
Pleb
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>>51091140
Right, the thing is i havent even try. As soon as i got my ID that was it. Although i regret in a way losing all contact with me m8s , and not having ,,live" through the college , and working instead, but hey you gotta do wot u gotta do
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I'm skinny as fuck I need to protect my BP, I will just go to HK or AUS
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Probably would given it's my job already
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Hell no. I'm off to Chile the moment shit hits the fan.
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>>51091399

Why to Chile? It is a poor shithole
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>>51091422
Far away and behind fuckhuge mountains. Should be nice and quiet there, except for the reggeaton.
All the non-shitholes will get nuked and racewar'd.
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Honestly? No.
I have one shot at living and I wont spend it by dying in some hole, being killed by an artillery shell.
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Of course I would. It's full of shitskins, and it's native people keep being disappointing, but it's only normal that I defend it.

If you said no, know that your ancestors are crying in shame.
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>>51091527
I also think that military service should be an obligation, and that anyone that dodges it should not be considered a French citizen anymore.
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>>51091527
>>51091572
Ça
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>>51091527
>your ancestors are crying in shame
They fucking dead, they cant cry.
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Well if I knew my family would escape with my I'd run because there has to be someone smart and educated left after the war to rebuild the nation :3

If my family wouldn't be able to run I'd fight as hard as I can, I guess.
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why not
we have a great history of s̶w̶i̶t̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶s̶i̶d̶e̶s̶ winning wars
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>>51091077

>also if you're fighting the threat in an organized manner you have greater chances of repelling them and actually keeping loved ones safe.
This is false. Guerrilla warfare is the only way to fight the russian. You don't honestly believe we have any chance to resist their endless artillery barrages? When military experts say our "organized" defense can withstand invasion for a week, you ought to reconsider dumb statements like this.
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I would. Not sure if anyone would want me to since I'm overweight, myopic as fuck, flatfooted and can't run for shit.
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>>51090677
He's Russian. Chances are, Russia would get better if another country won the war.
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>>51091890
Occupation is never made for good of occupied people, but always at their cost. Russian government may be shit, but occupation would be even worse
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Depends on what the threat was. If it was something that could have easily been avoided, but other people within my country willingly exposed us to the danger of, then no. Fuck fighting for a country that does that to itself, I'd probably try to start a life somewhere else or just kill myself.
If it was something people weren't inviting into the country, though, then I might.
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>>51091463
>one shot at living

You're on 4chan, you've already blown it. Plus, it's not like you will care once you are dead.
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>>51091527
>>51091636

Just look at this brave frech surren.. I mean, soldiers.
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Where are all the jingoistic /int/-ards ?
Did they all leave for /his/.

Patriotic people confirmed as better educated and sophisticated
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Depends on the situation
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>>51091906
>Japan
>Germany

Russians need some civilizing and some uncorrupt (or less corrupt) people in charge. Besides, Russkies are used to foreign rulers as long as they rule with an iron hand. Stalin was Georgian, Khrushchev an Ukrainian.
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>>51091948
/his/ is full of leftists. Leftist are never patriotic, and would never defend their country.
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>>51091948
Jingoism is nice and all as long as it's not you dying in a trench.
Ask a question a more personal level and you get different answers.
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>>51091948
>Patriotic people confirmed as better educated and sophisticated

Here they are mostly plebeian primitive scum. Smart people are not patriotic about country where salaries are 3x lower than in Germany
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>>51091944
nice meme Ivan..
aren't you two together now on Mediterranean?
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>>51092031
>Patriotism is about money
What the fuck Pooland
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>>51091527
>If you said no, know that your ancestors are crying in shame

As if they already wouldn't be looking at the state of the French population.

Old folk really didn't give a fuck about being 'tolerant', you know?
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>>51092031
>the only thing that matters about your own country is it's economic situation

Kill yourself. Poland seem pretty based, and would be better off without you.
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>>51092037
>74%
Pretty good, especially considering 10% of the population is not Slovene.
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>>51092011

Stop talking shit, dude. Russia - empire, it's multinational by default. Even Rurik, the founder, was scandinavian.

Your country was part of empire too, so until the 20th century you had no czech rulers.
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>>51092034

No, there is now flying our missiles.
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>>51092063
Yeah, I know. As I said, my countrymen are disappointing, and my country is being invaded. You're right, our ancestors are already crying, and Charles Martel is spinning so fast in his grave he could produce electricity.

But I still hope that things will change. People seem to be waking up.
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I love my country. I honestly believe that Australia is the greatest place to live. It mightn't be the richest, nor the strongest, nor the most influential, but the Australian people are the greatest bunch of people you'll ever meet. I can walk down the street and start up a conversation with almost any person I see and chances are they'd carry a conversation with me.
The Australian spirit of mateship is still alive and well; it might be hard to see at the moment when there's no adversity to fight, but in an us-vs-them situation the camaraderie will reignite.
Fuck those poofs in the media, there isn't a single media personality who accurately represents the Australian people.
I'd fight, die or kill for any true Aussie. More than that, I crave the opportunity to do so.
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>>51092178
>I can walk down the street and start up a conversation with almost any person I see and chances are they'd carry a conversation with me.
Jesuschristhowhoriffying.jpg
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>>51092125
well they supposed rendvoues there i hear.

but yeah nice firework show...
those iblis state now realise whose they're fucking with.
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>>51091116
What are you doing here
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Of course.
Running is for women and children
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>>51092178

If your country has joined to the same number of wars, how much on my own (or any european cntry), you would not be so optimistic. It's WAR EXHAUSTION, sempai.
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>>51092178
>I can walk down the street and start up a conversation with almost any person I see and chances are they'd carry a conversation with me.
Why'd you want to do that?
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>>51090472
Zabij się cwelu

>>51090661
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091116
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091140
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091306
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091399
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091422
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091456
Zabij się cwelu

>>51091787
Zabij się cwelu

>>51092031
Zabij się cwelu

Yes I would fight for Poland until death.
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If it's the neighbors attacking it won't be even funny.

Now a military power, yeah.
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>>51092300
>It's WAR EXHAUSTION, sempai.

You quite possibly might be correct, but then again you Russians seem like a depressed, dreary lot with nothing to live for.
You live in a destitute, post communist shithole dictatorship. You have a country riddled with crime, drug use and poverty. Almost every single (relevant) country in the world hates your government. Your birth rates are some of the lowest in the world. The only redeeming factor about Russia is her history.

I have a country worth fighting for, senpai, you don't.
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>>51092178
Half the country would happily throw you under a bus for being this nationalistic. Why would you want to defend those people?
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>>51092333
>dawanie złapać się w sidlasty fortel anona-bejciarza
Czy to ten słynny anon-spierdolina?
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>>51092166
>But I still hope that things will change. People seem to be waking up.

The problem is that the 'people' are coming closer and closer to a minority for every year of leftist rulers. It's too late for Sweden to become truly 'Swedish' again and for France to become truly 'French' again.

Setting aside the ''multicultural'' aspect of the financial immigrants, economy-wise it'll be a permanent detrimental to the countries as well. Right now after 7 years of living in Sweden only 50% of the ''refugees'' have gotten jobs. Even if their descendants will become fully integrated into society within 100 years we'll still lose the financial advancements that could've been made without the constant bleed of money these 100 years.

Some people say that we need them for our aging population but I find that to be bullcrap. If the population ages, that means we're in 'working age' for a longer time which means we can mark the retirement age up without bringing a bunch of Mdongos under the guise of helping the economy.
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No.
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>>51091572
>I also think that military service should be an obligation
So are we to take it that you've served in the French armed forces then?
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>>51092407
>but then again you Russians seem like a depressed, dreary lot with nothing to live for.

Two world wars (both on our territory), three revolutions, few coup d'etat, seventy years of communism, thirty years of anarcho-capitalism, and all of that in one god damn century.

INDEED, WHY WOULD RUSSIAN BE DEPRESSED
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>>51092410
>half the country
I think you estimate wrong with this, I notice more every day, especially after the recent terror attacks, the silent majority.

>>51092520
I'm not saying you shouldn't be depressed, I'm just saying that because Australians have a lot more to live for that I believe we can keep the fires of enthusiasm going for longer.
Honestly, I feel bad for you guys, I don't hold any doubts that the average Russia isn't a good person.
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>>51090472
>Would you defend your country?
Pfft, no.

I'd cruise on that sweet sweet refugee status.
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>>51092049

I can die for top-notch high-income country that is placed in first 5th positions of prosperity index, but not for shithole like Poland placed in in the second ten
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I would only defend my race and I hope whatever that's attacking Malaysia genocide the Malays.
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>>51092559

Well, that's what you think. This gives us more reason to kill you in the next world war.
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>>51092658
I don't think you understood my post, how good is your English?

I was saying I believe the average Russian is a good person stuck in unfortunate circumstances.
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Of course.
If there's one thing I fear more than being poor.
It's probably being forced to emmigrate and becoming a Scheisspolacke like OP
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>>51092740
Bad goy
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>>51092495
I'm talking about conscription. We used to have 3 years of military service when turning 18, then it was slowly reduced to one year, and the entirely disappeared in 2001.

Well, now it's just one day where soldiers try to make kids join the army.

Sadly, I didn't do "military service". Instead I did it's replacement, the optional "civic service" (which was fucking bullshit, basically just playing boy scouts), and then joined the reserve.
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>>51092705

So I'm really sorry, m8, I got it wrong.

Btw, I'm a little jealous of how you started with a clean slate.
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>>51092728

We live in times of globalisation, so we can choose places to live. I refuse to live amongst fucking catholic subhumans who fight with police to prevent a theater play with elements of porn from happening. That's what happened yesterday in my city, a bunch of catholic-neonazi neanderthals blocked entry to theater because they found the show immoral. Why i should stay here amongst these idiots if i can live in civilized country like Denmark, Switzerland or Norway?
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>>51092802
Oh, it touched you.
Enjoy living as scheisspolacke for the rest of your miserable days.
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>>51092802

>a bunch of catholic-neonazi neanderthals blocked entry to theater because they found the show immoral

Wow, it looks exactly as in Russia, only need replace "catholic" to "orthodox".
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>>51092792
>Btw, I'm a little jealous of how you started with a clean slate.
What do you mean by that?

On the topic of jealously, I'm jealous that you have a country with more than 200 years of history.
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>>51092037
holy shit I thought japan would be 100% yes. Maybe if the military designs a few mecha
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>>51091841
Organized manner can mean organized guerrilla activity, dumb shit. The yank was thinking he can be some auperhero and defend his home alone from foreign invader
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>>51092867

Well, it's hard to explain, but your ancestors came to this country and built it from scratch, while mine were forced to endure the tyranny of the tsar, to effectively fend off numerous spiteful neighbors.

So we still do not get rid of many imperial complexes, the roots of which lie in a long and bloody history of conquests and defeats.
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>>51092802
I didn't know Poland had leftists. You kind of disgust me, to be honest.

Hopefully you are a tiny minority. With what you described, Poland seem like a lovely place to live.
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Of course. Denmark is one of the best countries in the world, and one of the last sane countries in Europe. Why wouldn't I fight to defend this gem?
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>>51092037
>Germany

......heheheh...hahahahaha

>Japan
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck these two got raped HARD,they're so paranoid about fighting for nationalism.
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>>51092963
My ancestors fled Soviet Russia during WW2, friend. You too can do the same.
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fuck no

I\d only fight for my family and our rights.

fuck the rest of this kike/communist garbage.
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Depends on who attacks it and why.
If it's Russians that want a bit more clay for their clay nation - I would.
If it's UN troops fighting our regime - I wouldn't.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlydR5S1E20
HAKKAA PÄÄLLE :DDDD
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>>51092985

I'm trying to do, my friend. But to escape from the second into the first world is not so simple. I'm not complaining, I just want to justify why still do not write under the american flag here, in /int/.
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>>51090472
I would defend my country to the end, as my ancestors have done hundreds of years ago. But not If the niggers keep pouring in
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>>51092802
>who fight with police to prevent a theater play with elements of porn from happening
It's fucking hilarious. They're protesting against porn at the theater while there are live sex show joints literally on the very next street.
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>>51092978

I am not so much lefist, i simply try to be openminded and nice to people, i am also half-Jewish from mother's side but i don't really give a fuck about it. Life in this shithole is a torture already, they hate everyone who is not a Pole. They beaten few foreigners in last days because of anti-refugee hystery. Millions of these faggots move out to Western countries for jobs and money but when they are about to accept a foreign person in their country they turn into xenophobic scum. And things will only get worse now after they elected these ultracatholic apes from PiS. There is no life for me in this country anymore, hence i plan to leave
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>>51090472
yes. Hell i would do it if WE were the invaders!
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>>51090472
Yes. As long if we win we can throw out the current governmen.
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>>51093099
>am also half-Jewish from mother's side
I hope you voted for the current government,
otherwise Auschwitz grand reopening soon
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>>51093058
Best of luck my friend. If you find your way to Australia, come find me.
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>>51090858
So much for "Muricaaa"
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lel no
I would escape or collaborate
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>>51093099
>I am not so much lefist

>Jewish
>hates his country
>pro invasion
>pro multiculturalism
>anti-catholic fedora tipper

You are a walking leftist stereotype. Leave Poland, go to Israel, or gas yourself.
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>>51093372
It's just bait anon
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>>51093372

What invasion? Who wants to live in this wasteland anyway? They should care about these few foreigners that were stupid/determined enough to live here, but instead they attack them.
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>>51092802
>I don't want to live among conservative Catholics so I will move to Caliphates where I can't be seen drinking on the streets or walking with women
heh Polska będzie lepsza bez ciebie
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Ofcourse
also this >>51092037
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no choice desu senpai
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>>51093459

> 97,2% want to fight for a shithole even worse off and less civilized than Poland

You guys are crazy.
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>>51091944
Last time you had to fight us, you ran away and burned every

Oh, plis this time we kicked your ass with Britain

So drink your precious vodka and shut up
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>>51093435
nice polish mate :^)
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>>51093621
It's correct
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>>51093621
topkek Janusz
Average IQ of UK diaspora is about 50?
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>dying for pooland
Kek, I've got much better things to do in my life. Even shitposting on /int/ is more reasonable.
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>>51093387
You're probably right. Or at least I hope so.

I've seen so many leftists here that say the same kind of thing, that it can be hard to tell the difference between trolls and genuine brainwashed leftists.
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>>51093705
Just read through this thread.
It's all rusemen baiting other rusemen who try to ruse back.
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>>51092333
Skisem z gimnazjalnej husarii, nie zesraj się tylko od tego napinania spierdoksie xD
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>>51093800

Yeah, KGB agents are everywhere. Let's hope that new Smolensk investigations will reveal them all
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>>51093677
i-it was just bait
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>>51090472
>I wouldn't
So now we can attack poland.
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>>51090472

Without a doubt. Someone who doesn't fight for his country, but rather flees it during the time of war, does not deserve to have a country to call home.
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>>51093875

I am afraid that you can't because NATO fags will get too terrified and they may finally counterreact instead of putting new sanctions. But i really doubt that anything would get worse in Poland if you conquered it, there is no much difference between current Polish government and Putin.
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>>51093862
sory zuchu
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>>51093839
>>51093912
told you >>51093800
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>>51093912
>may finally counterreact
for poland?
kek
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>>51093967
For themselves. It's better to fight against Russia on Polish territory than on German territory after some time.
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>>51093912
>they may finally counterreact
HAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>51093912
grass is always greener
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>>51093912
>may finally counterreact
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Yes, because while I hate its government I still love its people and nature.
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>>51093990
>>51094058

Poland is such a shit that even being occupied by Russia wouldn't change anything to worse, so you guys shouldn't be so excited. Anyway, if we look at it from strategic point of view, NATO would probably turn whole Poland into ash along with Russian forces, but of course you can argue with it and have your own opinion
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>>51094091
>war between nato and russia
Are you still baiting or just retarded?
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>>51090472
Yes.
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>>51094131

NATO is not going to attack Russia because of such shitholes like Georgia, Chechnya or Ukraine, but i am afraid that jokes are over when Russia dares to attack NATO country having a border with Germany. Also i don't claim that such NATO reaction will be good for Poland because it will be probably nuked by USA
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I would send my mother and little sister to Australia but stay here fighting because I think it's my responsibility.
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>>51094198
>Rosja atakująca NATO
Idź sięleczyć dziecko.
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>>51090472
>defend
Yes
>attack for
No
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>>51090472
Dezercja jest karana smiercią, ty bezwartosciowa kurwo smieciu.
I would obviously defend my homeland.
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>>51094248

Russia is really desperate now with low oil price and economy falling apart. It would want to test NATO by attacking a little baltic hole. It is impossible for NATO to defend baltic states from military point of view, so Russia risks close to nothing. Probability of nuclear conflict after taking over baltic state is near to 0% but probability of disintegration of NATO is close to 100%.
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>>51092037
Japan has it right.
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>>51094372
Tak tak tak.
Wracaj na wykop koleżko
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>>51093099
>half Jewish
>leftists cosmopolitan views
>hates catholics
>can only be patriotic towards a country when it provided him with lottsa money
everything checks out
/pol/ is always right
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Yes
I'd be glad to give my life for a higher purpose instead of living this miserable, senseless piece of shit of a life
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>>51092178
Why aren't you defending your country from these terrifying terrorists?
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>>51092037
Turkey and Vietnam, noice.
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>>51094469

You talk about your idol Braun?
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>>51092037
>Finland
>Norway
>Sweden
Why are scandis so based?
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I'm not french, I'm from south america and I just kind of ended up here after years of moving around.

If France was in any real danger of ending as a society, I would fight for France. I feel like I owe the country as much for all its given me.
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>>51094632
what has france given you
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>>51094576
I'm pleasantly surprised by Sweden, maybe there is hope for them after all.
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>>51094661
AIDS
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>>51090472
Depends. Defend against what?

>internal communist/left-wing revolution

A million times yes. Time to kill some pinko commies and possibly make this country a decent place to live in.

>MURRICA

No, I'd literally invite soldiers into my house for asado and fernet every weekend, and then ask them how things are going back in the States and if anything changed since I was there. And then suck their dicks. But only ironically.

>UK decides islands aren't enough

Invite to house for tea, ask to annex. Hopefully become one of the decent former colonies later, like the US or Australia, and not like India.

>Anything else

Depends.
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>>51094661
well, firstly it gave me a real shot at my career which until then it was mostly considered a longshot. it's been work, but at least i've been given the opportunity.

i'm so fucking happy here. i really found a culture that speaks to me, one where the person i am isn't weird but attractive and that my habits are interesting and just something to be tolerated. i really fit in here and i've done my best to go by unnoticed. giving me a real place i love is what france gave me.
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>>51094720

What a stupid comic art. Life in multinational and multiethnic society teaches how to be simply a human being, and not only a part of tribe having the same language and tradition. Nations are greedy, egoist and aggressive and they are main source of nationalistic and nazi ideologies promoting their supremacy over other nations and ethnic groups
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>>51094720
What hope, their military history is irrelevant after 1800's
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>>51090472
If the gov told me today go and attack and invade X country i would tell them to fuck off, but if someone attacked Romania i would fight for my cunt, as vad as things are i would fight not for Ponta or Iohannis but for the people who would otherwise die or suffer,Romania is not as rich as other cunts, but if all you care for is money you are less than a nigger poolish man, we have enough to live decently
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>>51094576
Because we have something worth fighting for.
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>>51094576
Residue from nationalism in the 60s and earlier. Numbers have most likely dropped since this poll and will continue to do so.
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>>51094904
Of course. If the shitskins wouldn't fight for their own country, why would they fight for ours?
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>>51094875
>>51094904
I also can see from internet that Norway spends so fucking much on defense if we compare it with other small countries
why? they are in nato defense should not be a problem for them, also there are only 4 millions people in norway
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>>51094946
They don't need to fight, they can be human shields
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Surely no. I will flee from Russia regardless of whoever attack on that shitty state.
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I wouldn't defend a multi cultural society any more than id defend a country in asia or africa. Which means I'd defend ireland for a few years yet.
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>>51090472
It depends on the situation.

If it's in a war against islam to defend my way of life i guess Iwouldn't hesitate.

But if it's to defend the actual status quo and the current elites that own the government, then no. They, and this place can go to hell for all I care.
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If I had to, but who would invade us? The only people I could see endangering America is its own military, and in that situation armed resistance would be futile.
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>>51094946
I mean that actual Swedes won't either. Because there will be nothing to defend soon.
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>defend putins throne and the oligarchs oil and gas
no thanks
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>>51093491

The last time russian cossacks founded a "bistro"-cafe in Paris, kek.

Then we twice saved you in the world wars.

Now we fighting for you in your former colony Syria.

So fill your mouth with baguette
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>>51094843
Of course their military is not relevant but if they are willing to fight for their country, it means that they are less cuc ked than I thought.

But didn't their minister of the army say that would use "feminist tactics" against Russia or something like that, maybe a year ago ?
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>>51094960
They pump up more money from the ocean floor than they know what to do with. Combined with protectionist policies and high taxes they have ludicrously high costs for everything.
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>>51090472
I'd fight for my people but I couldn't give to fucks about my country at this point.
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>>51095035
They'd only defend Muhammed's gibsmedats 2bh
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>>51095030
>Russia saved France in WW1

I'm sorry, what ?
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>>51095020
A Swedish man will always be willing to fight for his country. The filth that wouldn't deserve neither to be called Swedish nor men.
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>>51095061
This.
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>>51095073
A Swedish man should always defend the Swedes, which up until recently, but no longer, was the same thing as Sweden.
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>>51095035
No, the leftist foreign minister promised feminist foreign policy. "Feminist" is just a buzzword, though. There's nothing particularly feminist about the foreign policy being conducted.
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I'm pretty out of shape but if someone attacked Scotland I would do anything I could to defend it.
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>>51090472
citizenship should be granted through completion of service
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>>51095073
Swedes you have too much niggers and sandniggers in your country, do you really would fight for them?
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>>51091422
Rude
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aye
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>>51092559
>I think you estimate wrong with this, I notice more every day, especially after the recent terror attacks, the silent majority.
Well hopefully you're right and I'm wrong. Because I've been seeing that for years now.
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>>51095143
>>51095143

I'd defend Scotland too senpai
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>>51095154
nah only to anglos that complete service
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>>51094368
>Dezercja jest karana smiercią, ty bezwartosciowa kurwo smieciu.

They couldn't kill everybody.
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>>51095130
Ah, sorry, my mistake. Found a few articles on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/12/08/sweden-says-it-will-pursue-a-feminist-foreign-policy-to-counter-macho-russian-aggression/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/05/can-vladimir-putin-be-intimidated-by-feminism-sweden/

"And when Sverker Göranson, the supreme commander of Sweden’s armed forces, went before the media last month to present concrete evidence that a submarine had violated his country’s territorial waters, a Russian newspaper responded by calling the officer “unmanly.”

It was probably meant as an insult, but the writer behind the snub may have unwittingly paid the Scandinavian nation a compliment."
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>>51095071

Maybe it's a surprise for your level of education, but the unexpected onslaught of Russian on the eastern front (in Prussia) forced the Germans to redeploy some troops from the Western Front. Because of this, the Germans failed to take Paris immediately. Else, do not forget even about Russian expeditionary corps in France.
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>>51095115
This is the Kingdom of the Swedes no matter how much you may want to give it away to someone else.
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>>51095292
>but the unexpected onslaught of Russian on the eastern front
what is it with russians and human waves?
is it because of the shit weather?
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>>51095156
If by fighting for Sweden I'm also protecting some niggers and sandniggers, then so be it. At least they are not Russians.
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>>51095035

>that pic

who feels the need to write something like that?

fucking hell

some people are too jealous!!!

why can't they check their rudeness instead !
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>>51095317

Human waves - it's soviet and totalitarian invention. Not the same with Imperial Russian Army.

Just in 1914, the Germans did not expect such a hurried from the Russian. They almost took Koenigsberg. So they had to withdraw troops from the Western Front, which is why there are attack failed.
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>>51095030
Germans fucking destroyed you, dyring WW1
And America "saved" us during WWII, not Ivans

Try again
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>>51090472
hell no. I hate China and the US, fuck both. but my life is the most important thing.
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>>51095402
They thought they had to withdraw troops from the western front, but by the time they showed up at the eastern front the Russians had already been pushed back. No one expected the Russians to be as incompetent as they were and the Germans therefore responded too strongly.
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>>51095447
>Germans fucking destroyed you, dyring WW1

Of course, while we were trying to save the Entente against own interest.

>And America "saved" us during WWII, not Ivans

It is immaterial who. The main thing is that you unable to save themselves, Loui.
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>>51090472
you are a retard
if some homeless man right now came into your house would you fight to defend it or run away and let him live in your home just like that?
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>>51095295
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>>51095519

At the request of the Entente, russians began attack before the completion of their mobilization of economy and army. In 1916, russians began general offensive, which was interrupted due to sabotage bolsheviks traitors.
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>>51095565
>we were trying to save the Entente against own interest.
You wanted the great war and did everything in your power to get it. The Russian leadership knew that the European powers were getting more and more ahead in military technology every day. If there was to be a war, and it looked like there might, it had to be as soon as possible before the Russian advantage of superior numbers was completely negated by technology. That's why Russia chose to provoke a war with the central powers.
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>>51095706
Important thing is that Lenin was basically a german agent. The Revolution of 1917 was heavily perpetuated by germany.
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>>51095712

This is just your speculation. Internal turbulent situation in Russia does not promote war. In addition, on the contrary, with time Russia would have exceeded the remaining power in the military sense. For example, at the beginning of the war the country had the largest air fleet in the world and the only and first bombers.

>That's why Russia chose to provoke a war with the central powers.

In my humble opinion, Russia should enter into an alliance with them. At least, the Emperor Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm had a good family relationship.
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>>51095706
The terrible Russian performance was not due to incomplete mobilization. You still greatly outnumbered the Germans. The problem was incompetence and lack of modern tactics and technology. Russian commanders sent radio messages without encryption or code, as if it was a telephone call that was between two people and no one else would be listening. The whole "telling the enemy exactly what you were doing" thing led to the Russians being ambushed and annihilated when they split up to pass on different sides of a lake. The Russian artillery also couldn't shoot at things they couldn't see themselves, because they hadn't figured out how to use artillery observers to correct their fire. These and many other technology or tactics issues made the Russians absolutely useless during the early war.
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Has anyone noticed that OP stopped replying an hour ago when everyone got tired of his suddeutsche beitung?
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Yes, cause if I didn't I'd be a horrible person for saying the "refugees" should have fought for their countries.
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>>51095952

He бyдy cпopить, я нe нacтoлькo кoмпeтeнeн в вoeнных вoпpocaх. Ho coвepшeннo тoчнo знaю, чтo aвcтpийцы были eщё нeкoмпeтeнтнee нac, paз мы пpopвaли их oбopoнy.

I will not argue, I'm not so competent in military matters. But definitely I know that the austrians were still incompetence us, once we broke through their defenses.

In addition, a year later we were able to stabilize the front with the germans and turn into a positional war.
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>>51090472
yes
http://strawpoll.me/6065606/
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>>51095295

Götaland soon
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>>51096108
Only possible because you sacrificed that first army in a trial run. If you had waited until you were fully mobilized and then sent your army out without knowing of and trying to correct its glaring weaknesses, you would have been destroyed. It's the same as with WWII. If you hadn't been humiliated in the winter war, you would have been as weak against the Germans as you were against the Finns and wouldn't have stood a chance.
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Yes. I would be glad for the sense of purpose. What's the point in fleeing like a coward just to go on living an empty life? So you can get married, only to divorce a few years later? Have kids, only for them to turn into degenerates? This era is rotten, better to die with adrenaline surging through your veins.

t. edgemaster
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Fuck oath i would defend my country.
I would gladly give my life to defend the lives of the women and children of this great nation.
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I don't know I'm in a dilemma about this. On one hand I don't want my country to be the way it is (republika šumska), and on the other hand I don't want war. And then again I'm afraid of leaving and possibly allowing my country becoming part of serbia or croatia.
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>>51092037
>60% of people would fight under Cameron and his cronies

I'm disgusted tbqh
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>>51091820
RIP
>I cry evrytiem
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>>51090472
dunno not from any western power but from fucking ruskys and kebab probably yes
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>>51092069
Based Poland
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>>51090472
I wouldn't join the regular army for sure. I'd rather join a guerrilla squad.
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>>51098207
it's all a matter of perspective kek
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>>51090472
The question relies so much on context that it may as well be meaningless
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>>51095192
We're gonna need you in our next war of independence.
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>>51098338
I guess we still have Russia
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Nope, I'd ghost it so fast
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Depends who I'm fighting or who I'm fighting for, but I guess I probably would if I had to say yes or no. The country would really have to be threatened either externally or internally for me to take up arms for any government we've had recently though.
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>>51090472
You are a traitor, and treason shall be punished.
How can you left one of the countries you should be proud of? I would understand if you were from Belarus, Ukraine, FYROM, Luxembourg, Estonia; but as a pole I would proudly defend my motherland, as well as I would do for Romania.
Of course, nobody wishes a war to happen, but only traitors flee.
Chuj ci w dupe!
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>>51098483
russia is a fucking inbred nazi shithole to be honest
don't expect anything good from them
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>>51098529
HOLY SHIT
>>
I will defend my cunt even if it is shithole
because its MY SHITHOLE
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I'd fight for Poland but not for Finland.
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>>51090472
>he implies i have a choice in the matter
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>>51098993
>fucking inbred
>they have the greatest range of people, from Slavs to inuits, tatars and mongols

Nice try, László; you're still a tremendous idiot.
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>>51090472

I would motherfucking *consume* my country like a one-man locust plague if I had the ability to.

However I might participate in the defense depending on if it aids me somehow.
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>>51098338
>>51098483
Look at Japan Tbh
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>>51099218
i meant inbred socially mentally and politically mostly not in the strict genetic sense
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I feel like if my country were smaller somehow and less relevant I would like it a lot more, a sense of togetherness is made like that I think. We're so big and we've gotten so many immigrants through the years whatever culture America had at the start is kinda wiped away. We're not like you euros with individual countries having their own unique languages, you all are kinda tied to very old cultures; I think that would give a bigger sense of national pride than Americans. So I don't know why Americans are so jingoistic and are stereotypically nationalistic.

I also don't think I would particularly need to fight for my country. Nowadays we only get into stupid petty wars. It's always claimed that it's for defence and freedom and blah blah, but seriously the idea of a full scale invasion or even anything similar against us is ridiculous. I mean, if that were to happen I think I would fight beculause I'm kind of depressed and it would give me an excuse to have a unique life experience before death.

Still though I do want military experience. I don't see my path in life having any but I just feel inadequate without it. Oh well.
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>>51100022
feminism would be the least of japans problems m8
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>>51095952
There were more locomotives in the Ruhr area alone than in all of European Russia. Also the Germans had much shorter distances to transport things through. The main reason for the Russian defeat is probably the incredibly superiour German logistics.
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>>51093488
>even worse off and less civilized than Poland
We have a near history full of patriotism , heroic figures , you don't.
We have legends , stories about the men who fought off the Allies out of Anatolia with sticks in their hands , you don't have much of a thing against Axis.
Also check your statics again , Turkey is more developed than Poland.
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Yeah sure why not
but like a real war not in some goatfuckistan country
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>>51090472
I'd gladly fight for my state, but never for the federation
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>>51090472
Nope. This country is filled with complete retards. They're not worth defending.
I'll just move to another country.
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>>51101277
Pretty much this
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