IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
>screenshot the image and post that instead
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint
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TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
OLD THREAD: >>3133029
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.
>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.
This is my lasr work.
This should be a combat robot, probably I won't finish it
wow look at my stuff!
Is this fine to continue or is it going to end up a big wad of fuck by the end? also the puddle looks weird I don't know if it's out of proportion or if it will look better when I finish the grass over there also how can I paint decent looking realistic bark? I wanted smooth bark but couldn't do it in a way that didn't look like ass
i haven't tried to draw since i was a kid, i saw sketchbooks for sale and got one one a whim. behold my first masterpiece. i fucked up drawing the hand which made it look more Italian which i like a lot.
Can someone point out my mistakes here? (Just the body, I just stuck a face on there just to have it.)
You have to draw so much that you stop caring whether the thing on the page is bad or good. Just keep going.
Also sometimes just copy sketches from artists you like just to remind yourself that it is possible for your hands to make cool shit.
Can someone tell me what would be the best materials to achieve a look/style of coloring similar to this in traditional means? Copics? Pastel?
r8 my friend's art
Man. I just. Are you supposed to start with a sketch for landscapes or not? Trying to draw from reference but hastily blocking in colours like this makes it hard to keep the correct proportions. Yet the artist youtubers just block in. Although they aren't using reference so I don't know if it makes a difference.
Here is another I was doing earlier which I sketched first instead of blocking. It still wasn't turning out good so I stopped early. I really wanna learn landscapes, it's one of those things I always avoided.
I updated my controller. If you're looking at this for the first time, my objective was contour lines and contrast of value.
I can't wrap my head around cast shadows. I understand the examples like that
but how do you connect everything when you can't see the line or horizons, points are outisde of the canvas, etc?
Do good artists go through finding those points and lines everytime (they probably just eyeball stuff and get it right cause of habit?) or is there any alternative method?
...whatever they're called, I tried drawing a couple of them in a dramatic pose. :0
>looks up from art to reference with the same shocked disappointment as when homer simpson was trying to build that barbeque
The reference, for reference.
mm. yeah. that's a nice patch of grass.
am I doing this right?
Maybe pushing the color of the atmosphere gives it a little more shape, idk
The reference is still more blue. Also, that island that's roughly in the center of the image is not flat enough, it's throwing the whole thing off. I suggest adding in the clouds as well, because you need to have the complete image before you start refining. When you look at the reference photo, you gauge the terrain in relation to the sky, and it affects how you perceive the terrain. It will never 'look' right in your image because you're missing the sky.
I drew a loomis face and decided to make a value painting out of it. I know I've got a lot more practice with the construction, but I don't know - I kinda had fun with this.
you should use only hard edges while you're learning. soft edges are a bit too easy, you can be wrong and still have something that looks fine, whereas with hard edges you have to be right or it'll look bad, they also teach you a few lessons soft edges don't because of the lack of contrast.
you can always fiddle with the edges after you've done the painting of course, if you want it to look nice a smooth for a blog or something.
i'd also avoid covering up the contour of the face with hair, the cheekbones are one of those hard forms you should endeavour to learn early on.
and don't take my advice as gospel, i'm sure plenty of people get away with doing the opposite, but for me i think it's only logical that working in a way that makes your mistakes more apparent means you will notice them and learn more quickly.
good job overall, especially the lips.
can someone suggest a good figure drawing book, I tried "for all its worth" but the skeleton seems way complex (like the hips are difficult to put in perspective) and I want to try a different model
tried to draw a witcher...
when still /beg/ should I never draw without ref?
I've been doodling at random throughout my life and have done some art classes way back during school but it's debatable that I retained much. I decided to start off getting serious using the drawabox site. I was curious if I should keep pushing with it or try out other methods and guides along the way.
Same position as you and to be honest anon, we have a huge advantage because of all those classes. You just don't know it yet, but it puts you heads above the people here. You should draw a lot, anything, drawabox is just there to help you do that and so is every other book. If you don't draw, all those methods are useless.
I guess but why is he holding this axe at the top? why is he staring at it? what did it do? choose a better pose and add gesture otherwise it feels more like a drawing of a manequin wearing a witcher costume instead of a drawing of the witcher
Head is the main flaw imo. My suggestion: copy 10 loomis heads (books in q&a thread linked) really carefully. And then draw 10 of loomis style heads from imagination (not rushed, patiently) - when they're each done correct them by looking at original loomis material. Also pay attention to the hairline.
I bet it will make your heads way better, even if they're drawn with zero reference.
vilppu is your man.
Glenn Vilppu - the Vilppu Drawing Manual; Basic Figure
This is the digital equivalent of a finger painting in kindergarden. If you're shitposting, find another forum, this is for people actually trying to learn art. If you're not, see the stickied posts, start at the beginning.
I don't understand what the problem is. You're refining the image over time, getting it closer to the reference.
Why are you painting this reference? Why did you choose it? Generally, when I choose a reference for a landscape, it's because .I find something interesting in it, or something about it is particularly challenging from an artistic point of view. What is your reason for painting it? If you don't have a good reason, stop painting it, and find references with something in it that draws your eye, that you feel the urge to show other people, like "hey, check this out, isn't it cool/interesting/beautiful?"
You just don't paint stuff at random. Have a reason. I wouldn't choose that image for the sky, alone. The lack of sunlight has flattened the colors, color composition-wise it's boring and lifeless, and washed out the water. What's the focus here? Why are people supposed to be looking at this? Even as a photo, I have issues with this shot.
Personally, I find painting from life to be the best for landscapes. Start scouting out places around you, look at it in different kinds of light (Morning, noon, dusk), take some reference pictures of that light, some detail pictures if necessary, and then do some pleine air sketches to capture the colors and basic shapes, to use as reference in the studio.
I just get the feeling you have no connection to this photo, and that's why you're struggling. Pick something that interests you, even if it's just cool shadows some trees are casting.
Holy shit, I thought it looked like trash but then I scrolled down and saw the grass, the stump, the mushrooms and the water. Love the effect. Reminds me of art from like ten years ago you would see on DA. I like the style, but it's no longer around as far as I'm aware. Really gives it that mystical and magical feel. Man, I really love this. Going to save it.
>inb4 outlines look like shit
I know, the defining lines of clothes and arms are way too thick and not smoothed out.
>inb4 coloring is off
Still working on a direction, generally throwing coloring until I find somewhere an artist that does a good job in simplified, yet effective coloring.
I tried to shade, but something seems a bit off to me.
But I really wanted to see what you faggots think about the lips, especially the white glint, and generally how to apply glint?
I attempted to draw from a different perspective. How did it turn out?
The lip glint looks too realistic. It's a lot more detailed than the rest of the character. Be more sparing with the shine and try not to draw every lip wrinkle unless you are gonna bring the rest of the character more realistically detailed too. Otherwise it sorta makes you look like you have a subconscious vore fetish. The rendering looks alright and the style isn't bad. Not my cup of tea but I can see where you're trying to go with it. If this is a style you want to move towards, maybe try doing some studies from Justice League or Aeon Flux. Not to copy their style but to guide you into the art style you're trying to develop.
Good luck anon.
wow thanks!! I can already tell this book is much more my style.
loomis? more like Ihateyou-mis more like jew-mis more like eatashoe-mis more like who?-mis more like poo-mis more like spew-mis more like notgotaclue-mis more like gobacktothezoo-mis more like boo-mis more like longqueue-mis more like screwyou-mis .
Hey, thanks a whole bunch for this, I think you're the anon who commented on my last (much more rushed) painting (the snow landscape). I just wanted to let you know that I love and try to soak in as much of your advice as I can, and that's what prompted me to get into more detail with this piece (I was getting frustrated and antsy to just make a nice landscape painting, before I started detailing this and realized I can have the patience to draw tiny bits of grass and rock).
You told me last time to find what appeals to me - with this picture, it is probably the icy, Nordic feeling I get and the potential for a story (I've just been watching Star Wars a lot and this looks like an area where machinery may have been). But yeah, I will probably choose something more appealing next time.
I hope to use your advice alongside this current environment painting course i'm watching to really get into it. Painting the details in this painting yesterday really opened my eyes to how much time, patience and attention to detail landscape painting requires, even if you told me last time about how long it takes (and that you love doing the little details - I'm starting to get it now).
Interesting that you talk about Pleine Air painting - i've been really getting into James Gurney lately, having read most of his book on colour & light and fantasy creatures, and been going through a bunch of his youtube videos - to be honest, I think his paintings are what sparked my sudden interest in painting landscapes and studying light & colour (or at least developing those undeveloped skills of mine). Pleine Air painting looks really tasty when he does it - but that would require I buy a bunch of things and start learning gouache wouldn't it? (Or at least I would want to learn gouache because he does it so nice).
Thanks again for helping me.
This exercise _guarantees_ improvement in your shading that will be visible to anyone:
Animate a lightsource traveling over a scene with a cube, sphere and pyramid. See pic.
shading and specular looks cool. shadow needs to be cast further
The back of the oblique is supposed to be further front from the butt. The butt transitions smoothly into the back muscles, so that line you made for the oblique shouldn't be touching the butt.
>tfw have yet to get to this book
It looks like a general book though as opposed to a book for beginners, as in, if you've been drawing for a while and this book will tell you what to keep in mind to have and make better drawings.
Trying to eyeball without measuring and no erase or anything warp/transform tool. Need to get rid of this bad habit.
Why is the illumati preventin me frI'm making a perfect pyramid?
Woo, cleaned up the linework and added basic coloring. Thoughts?
Trying my hand at Ahegao stuff I did a couple today but Ill just post the one i finished. Any suggestions from hentai/lewd artists is appreciated
yeah but not good. Why are people who suck trying to teach? Its almost hilarious how evil and disgusting he made the kid look. If he flipped his canvas even once he'd have an anyeurism
I never drew a front view of a person before and I just finished Drawing on the right side of the brain
what do you think? should I keep going or am I hopeless?
I feel like garbage. 4 hours spent on this shit. I wish I was dead.
still need alot of work on anatomy. ;(
>contrast of value.
literally none of those included in your work. its just an outline. we gonna skip the general wobblines of your lines. You gotta be concious about the contour lines weight, make them thinner where the light would hit. now its all over the place, its realy thick on the top of the nipples, and thin on the top of controller but again, thick on the bottom. you follow me?
it will be cool to see you improve.
- hips too small. Looks barely wider than his neck. Wrap your hands around your neck and hips to internalize the difference.
- his skull slopes down way too quick, same in your sketch. The top of a head is relatively even/flat!
- His nose goes down perfectly vertical. That's not how noses work :^)
I've compiled you some arm stuff
I find looking at stylized arms helps understanding them more easily.
Critique and I also want to find a way to self teach art fundies.
What's the best way to copy and learn from an artist you really admire?
Will doing studies upside down make you stop symbol drawing or do you have to mindlessly ham out a ton of normal studies and chant "DON'T SYMBOL DRAW FAGGOT" to yourself all the while you do it
How is this course? I'm disappointed in my current ability to make my art look like whoever I'm trying to draw (I fucking HATE blocking in the head) and I thought this could be useful.
Trying to get back into art after abandoning it 7 years ago. I used to be a lot better than this...
Not sure if this should go in the porn thread, but critique would be nice.
This is what I have so far...
Do I have what it takes? Will I make it?
That's a stupid question and you should feel bad for asking a bunch of strangers about your fate. It's up to you and if you don't think you have what it takes and you don't want to make it then go live your life with that in mind.
not in the mood but forcing myself to draw something.
Gotta make it a habit...
As well as others in this thread, I was redirected here from the Porn thread, I am having severe issues with the anatomy in this pic, I am at a lost, what do you think?
do you post work anywhere?
would watching old videos of him help me with my painting and background design?
I never learned how to properly ink.
Before I'd always go through this long process of sketching it out then trace that sketch onto Bristol or whatever and begin inking.
Similarly in digital I ink on a completely separate layer.
A few days ago I heard someone said that when they ink the key is to actually refine the prexisting lines and not use a separate space entirely.
Does anyone know any good information on inking?
I don't want to do art. I don't want to do anything. I feel like I have to do something though, so I do art.
People are like 'if you don't enjoy doing it, don't do it!' but I don't enjoy anything really, so I don't think that advice applies to me.
Obviously you should find advice that works for you.
I don't really believe that the "if you don't enjoy doing it, don't do it" advice works for some people either. Either way, you look like you have your life solved out, so there's nothing more for me to tell you except this.
Praski-blog.tumblr.com but unfortunately that's the only picture on it. I'm gonna pull a bunch of old pieces from my old computer because I think they're worth criticism, but like I said, I had a huge mental breakdown that put me off art for years.
Is the shit I'm currently doing. I'd like to get back to somewhat competent, even if it's for porn.
This has potential, but your colours are really bad.
I changed the colours a little
I tried drawing again for the first time in several years
It went a lot better than expected. This is a lot better than what I was able to do before, despite not having practiced at all. What in the fuck?
Is it possible that my brain has matured a bit or something? This is really confusing.
This one was a bit more crap, but still better than the stuff I could draw before
Haven't read comics or seen animoo since then.
The only thing I've done is 3D and pixelart.
Maybe it helped me understand 3D shapes better?
I drew Spidey too. Was looking at McFarlane's art for reference
No one likes doing work get over it and do something that makes money so you can do as little as possible.
how long does it take to learn the basics of anatomy?
Currently on the Sternocleidomastoid and this shit is taking forever to learn how to do properly
My liquify powers are weak but this looked more appealing to me
Progress of year one of drawing. I havent drawn as much as I should have and this year is going to be even worse because final year but here you go.
Anyone else trained with compass/setsquare but absolutely trash free-hand?
I can draw funky ass buildings and shapes in perfect perspective, but I couldn't draw a banana with a pencil to save my life.
My professor told me to not draw from images only draw from life. She enjoyed my semiblind drawings and supported my choice to draw a bust of julius caesar. Wish me luck ic. I'm leaving the beg gen.
anons pls help. something is off but i dont know what is wrong.
-The eyes are too far to the left, when compared to the nose and the chin
-The mouth is too high, or at least make it bigger so that the chin isn't so big
-The nose is too small for the face, though is in the right place
She looks like she has localized dwarfism for her head, your drawing isn't even that bad other than the chin bulge too tall and eyebrows misplaced.
You also made her eyes look towards the camera which makes her look more intense/less aloof
shiiiiiiit, this is some next level photographing skills, you not only put one hand put two and one holding the reference WOW, didnt you forgot you starbuck triple makiato faggot
btw you drew the face in front view and straight the girl is not like that
Looks like crap, but i will promise make better one next time
I tried to draw a robot girl.
How am I doing?
I think the placement of her right arm is garbage.
I think you could increase her appeal a lot with some changes. I shamelessly went ahead and adjusted her.
From top to bottom
>changes to hair (bangs start closer to forehead, bangs not as wide)
>changes to face (bigger/lowered eyes, face not as long, smaller nose)
>ribcage smaller and higher up
Wow that actually is quite an improvement. I still have a lot to learn.
I was trying to avoid a huge-eyed kawaii uguu anime face but maybe that's the best option. I think it's probably always the best option.
Part of it is taste, you don't necessarily have to go with the face I did. You could probably give her a less pointy chin, more defined nose and smaller/thinner eyes if you wanted to. I just went with a conventional anime qt face since that's got broad appeal, I guess.
Lookin cool. Think clearly about the lighting. It's really messily shaded. Where are the light sources exactly. Why is there a shadown on the right. Why a gradient in lighting on a flat surface? Draw something simpler (cube, sphere) and shade that accurately. If you need resources I will link them to ya.
I thought why i paint like that 1hour after finished this piece, especially gradient on flat surface
And i realize, i shouldn't paint with imagination this point, thanks
Something seems off in my drawing, concrit please?? I covered the other eye bc it looks retarded lmao (I know why it does though, so it's fine)
copied heads from jin roh, first time trying a style
I tried to go sort of halfway with these changes >>3138990 , and also realised she didn't have any eyebrows before, is she qt yet?
I am sorry for being an awful weeaboo
did some loomis practice since fwap is all i have on my phone. what i see is i can't draw hair and the old man's head is too narrow to hold his brain
sketch out the perspective you're using lightly before you start maybe, at the moment everything looks really flat and doesnt really look like a combat robot
needs to be rendered with correct brushes, maybe use harder/textured brushes for stuff like the trees fog and water. from afar the bottom half looks good
symbol drawing, if you draw the shadows to describe the face for demon man it would look alot more menacing, and it's unfinished! finish it and i'm sure it'll look good
line weight and not having such feathery strokes for the outline of the face and any 'hard' transitions would make it look x10 better imo
second one is really nice a little vague, maybe the top one could use softer brushes or a larger block in for the light lime greens
learn how to make sweeping long straight lines and curves, your line work looks too meticulous and rigid, to generate a realistic 'curve' you need a little looseness and flow or some shit, look at this product sketcher -> https://www.instagram.com/p/BS-SEAeh67S/?taken-by=sangwonseok
arms a little short for the darker deerson, could use some muscles in the legs
maybe your observation is great but your lines are so boring, no expression or looseness imo
smooth the light areas near the brow ridge and its pretty good, nice
I keep trying to draw those heads at the start of Loomis' book but I keep failing and end up with stuff like this and I can't stop feeling autistic about it
How necessary is it to have all the recommend materials from Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain? Things like the clear plastic and making viewfinders. If I have to get it then I will but hoping to see what can be done with paper and pencil.
excuse the weeb shit but I'd appreciate some critique. I feel like the pose is a bit stale, how fix?
then you need to learn and practice how to draw boxes in perspective, and apply that to the entire head.
I'm having a tough time getting the front view of the head right. i can't seem to get the jaw line right for it any tips?
they are gone
to sum it up they look somewhat like the ones i copied, but not very much. the top left downward one is probably completely off. how do i not make the same mistake again? what about the construction is wrong?
Also, I think I know what your problem is
You're not trying to sketch in the correct way
you keep holding your pen trying to make line on one go
this isn't right
try to slowly sketch it by making small lines that you can correct as you go on