/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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ESSENTIALS:

>https://warosu.org/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>3135774
So /ic/ was the same even back then. Really makes you think.

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This is my lasr work.
This should be a combat robot, probably I won't finish it

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wow look at my stuff!

Is this fine to continue or is it going to end up a big wad of fuck by the end? also the puddle looks weird I don't know if it's out of proportion or if it will look better when I finish the grass over there also how can I paint decent looking realistic bark? I wanted smooth bark but couldn't do it in a way that didn't look like ass

quick thing, critiq pls

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>>3135792
forgot pic

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i haven't tried to draw since i was a kid, i saw sketchbooks for sale and got one one a whim. behold my first masterpiece. i fucked up drawing the hand which made it look more Italian which i like a lot.

#3135793
Cool but yo should make a better version of it, now it looks like a sketch or test

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Demon man thing.

>>3135815
Fuck, I forgot to resize, delete it.

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>>3135695

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Can someone point out my mistakes here? (Just the body, I just stuck a face on there just to have it.)

Trying to draw makes me feel bad since everything I make is ugly. How do I stop caring?

>>3135895
By starting to care.

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>>3135895
You have to draw so much that you stop caring whether the thing on the page is bad or good. Just keep going.

Also sometimes just copy sketches from artists you like just to remind yourself that it is possible for your hands to make cool shit.

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Can someone tell me what would be the best materials to achieve a look/style of coloring similar to this in traditional means? Copics? Pastel?

>>3135939
That's just cel shading with super saturated colors. Copics and pastel both can do that.

>>3135940
Thanks.
>cel shading
I've heard that before, how does it work/what is it?

>>3135942
It's simplifying shadows to highlights, halftones and core shadow.

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>>3135939
probably this?

>>3135946
thanks, that simple phrase is a lot better than what 2 minutes of google gave me
>>3135948
paint is too complex for me senpai, I care more about drawing than rendering anyway, I'll go for markers

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r8 my friend's art

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Man. I just. Are you supposed to start with a sketch for landscapes or not? Trying to draw from reference but hastily blocking in colours like this makes it hard to keep the correct proportions. Yet the artist youtubers just block in. Although they aren't using reference so I don't know if it makes a difference.

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Here is another I was doing earlier which I sketched first instead of blocking. It still wasn't turning out good so I stopped early. I really wanna learn landscapes, it's one of those things I always avoided.

>>3135989
>>3135993
The funny thing is the second one reads better than the first and just overall looks better.

>>3135996
The first one I just started whereas the second I polished a bunch, but it takes so fucking long and still looks really sketchy despite. (I mostly did the water)

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I updated my controller. If you're looking at this for the first time, my objective was contour lines and contrast of value.

Original

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>>3136009
Updated

I can't wrap my head around cast shadows. I understand the examples like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hxYypsq04
but how do you connect everything when you can't see the line or horizons, points are outisde of the canvas, etc?
Do good artists go through finding those points and lines everytime (they probably just eyeball stuff and get it right cause of habit?) or is there any alternative method?

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hmmm

https://www.thoughtco.com/portrait-sketching-lesson-1123112

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Deer-people... Deerple?
Cervitaurs?
...whatever they're called, I tried drawing a couple of them in a dramatic pose. :0

>>3136081
Better than 100% of absolute beginners

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>>3135785

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>>3136010
>>3136009
And a boot using the same objectives.

how do I discipline myself to practice?

>>3136187
Tell yourself to draw and start drawing.

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>>3135959
Spidey's missing most of his jaw.

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>looks up from art to reference with the same shocked disappointment as when homer simpson was trying to build that barbeque

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The reference, for reference.

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how am I doing

>>3136250
>tfw the thumbnail looks a lot better

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mm. yeah. that's a nice patch of grass.

am I doing this right?

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>>3136300
Maybe pushing the color of the atmosphere gives it a little more shape, idk

>>3135959
How did his right foot end up over the web/rope?

>>3136321
mmm, it does. thanks anon.
I just now, at this moment, started watching Maciej Kuciara's course on environment painting, so maybe I will learn something from it before I continue.

Most good artists have been drawing from childhood and i just got 24. Is it too late for me really?

>>3136329
Yes

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polished turd coming through

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>>3136376
forgot to resize

>>3135993
Finish it. Yes it will be flawed but you learn way more from finishing something.

>>3136321
The reference is still more blue. Also, that island that's roughly in the center of the image is not flat enough, it's throwing the whole thing off. I suggest adding in the clouds as well, because you need to have the complete image before you start refining. When you look at the reference photo, you gauge the terrain in relation to the sky, and it affects how you perceive the terrain. It will never 'look' right in your image because you're missing the sky.

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I drew a loomis face and decided to make a value painting out of it. I know I've got a lot more practice with the construction, but I don't know - I kinda had fun with this.

>>3136377
>turd
>much better than I can do

please don't make me feel this bad

How does the eyebrow work? Does it take shape of the upper eye socket and keystone? How does it work?

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crit pls

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>>3136454

>>3136410
you should use only hard edges while you're learning. soft edges are a bit too easy, you can be wrong and still have something that looks fine, whereas with hard edges you have to be right or it'll look bad, they also teach you a few lessons soft edges don't because of the lack of contrast.

you can always fiddle with the edges after you've done the painting of course, if you want it to look nice a smooth for a blog or something.

i'd also avoid covering up the contour of the face with hair, the cheekbones are one of those hard forms you should endeavour to learn early on.

and don't take my advice as gospel, i'm sure plenty of people get away with doing the opposite, but for me i think it's only logical that working in a way that makes your mistakes more apparent means you will notice them and learn more quickly.

good job overall, especially the lips.

can someone suggest a good figure drawing book, I tried "for all its worth" but the skeleton seems way complex (like the hips are difficult to put in perspective) and I want to try a different model

>>3136509
Post what your figures look like first

>>3136516
i dont have a camera

>>3136517
You have a phone. What the fuck is that excuse.

>>3136518
I don't have a phone I don't need one.

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tried to draw a witcher...

when still /beg/ should I never draw without ref?

>>3136522
you're arms are stilltoo short , the wrist starts at the groin and the fingers when extended go to middle of thighs

I've been doodling at random throughout my life and have done some art classes way back during school but it's debatable that I retained much. I decided to start off getting serious using the drawabox site. I was curious if I should keep pushing with it or try out other methods and guides along the way.

>>3136531
Same position as you and to be honest anon, we have a huge advantage because of all those classes. You just don't know it yet, but it puts you heads above the people here. You should draw a lot, anything, drawabox is just there to help you do that and so is every other book. If you don't draw, all those methods are useless.

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>>3136528
better?

>>3136548
I guess but why is he holding this axe at the top? why is he staring at it? what did it do? choose a better pose and add gesture otherwise it feels more like a drawing of a manequin wearing a witcher costume instead of a drawing of the witcher

>>3136522
Looking better.

Head is the main flaw imo. My suggestion: copy 10 loomis heads (books in q&a thread linked) really carefully. And then draw 10 of loomis style heads from imagination (not rushed, patiently) - when they're each done correct them by looking at original loomis material. Also pay attention to the hairline.

I bet it will make your heads way better, even if they're drawn with zero reference.

>>3136509
anyone?

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>>3136571
vilppu is your man.

Glenn Vilppu - the Vilppu Drawing Manual; Basic Figure

>>3136582
How good do you have to be at drawing before beginning this book?

>>3136582
pdf of this?

>>3136590
https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw
books & articles -> anatomy > people -> glenn vilppu

from here
>>>3122728

>>3136559
tnx, sounds like a fun exercise, I'll definitely try that.

>>3136584
works for absolute newbie baby boys

>>3136454
Really good but proportions are little bit wrong

>>3136614
>literally textbook example of a useless critique

>>3135786
This is the digital equivalent of a finger painting in kindergarden. If you're shitposting, find another forum, this is for people actually trying to learn art. If you're not, see the stickied posts, start at the beginning.

>>3135786
How are you so good?

>>3135793
leave /beg/

>>3136321
I don't understand what the problem is. You're refining the image over time, getting it closer to the reference.

Why are you painting this reference? Why did you choose it? Generally, when I choose a reference for a landscape, it's because .I find something interesting in it, or something about it is particularly challenging from an artistic point of view. What is your reason for painting it? If you don't have a good reason, stop painting it, and find references with something in it that draws your eye, that you feel the urge to show other people, like "hey, check this out, isn't it cool/interesting/beautiful?"
You just don't paint stuff at random. Have a reason. I wouldn't choose that image for the sky, alone. The lack of sunlight has flattened the colors, color composition-wise it's boring and lifeless, and washed out the water. What's the focus here? Why are people supposed to be looking at this? Even as a photo, I have issues with this shot.
Personally, I find painting from life to be the best for landscapes. Start scouting out places around you, look at it in different kinds of light (Morning, noon, dusk), take some reference pictures of that light, some detail pictures if necessary, and then do some pleine air sketches to capture the colors and basic shapes, to use as reference in the studio.
I just get the feeling you have no connection to this photo, and that's why you're struggling. Pick something that interests you, even if it's just cool shadows some trees are casting.

>>3135786
Holy shit, I thought it looked like trash but then I scrolled down and saw the grass, the stump, the mushrooms and the water. Love the effect. Reminds me of art from like ten years ago you would see on DA. I like the style, but it's no longer around as far as I'm aware. Really gives it that mystical and magical feel. Man, I really love this. Going to save it.

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>inb4 outlines look like shit
I know, the defining lines of clothes and arms are way too thick and not smoothed out.

>inb4 coloring is off
Still working on a direction, generally throwing coloring until I find somewhere an artist that does a good job in simplified, yet effective coloring.

>Inb4 shading
I tried to shade, but something seems a bit off to me.

But I really wanted to see what you faggots think about the lips, especially the white glint, and generally how to apply glint?

>>3136751
outlines look shit, colouring is off.
shading

>>3136751
imagine having the type of mind that would choose to create this post

>>3136782 what does that suppose to mean
?

>>3136788
It means you're an art genius. You're too good for this board. Get out of this toxic cesspool and never look back

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I attempted to draw from a different perspective. How did it turn out?

>>3136801
real bad

>>3136798
>>3136782
>>3136758

Iv'e been posting here for a long time now attempting to get constructive criticism, and all I get is snarky passive/aggressive comments about the art itself instead of how to improve upon.

This fuckin board, I swear to god.

>>3136805
you should leave now if you really have no idea why what you did is wrong.
posting your post is what is bad ideologically speaking.

>>3136805
just turn their shitpost into constructive crits.
>outlines look shit
turn into
>try working on making better outlines.

>>3136803

Real helpful you fuckin mongrel.

>>3136801
You should probably go back to the basics of perspectives. I suggest you start using guidelines and rough drafts instead of jumping straight into the coloring phase. Step by step.

>>3136806
>Ideologically speaking

Great, more obscure shitposting pointing to some generic "if you really don't know" instead of "here's what's wrong".

>>3136809
here's what's wrong

you haven't read the sticky

>>3136809
Your post is just extremely defensive when you could have just asked for help on the lips. You made yourself a target for no reason.

>>3136548

Stop. Trying to fix it bit by bit based on what other anon said is a waste of time. Go study the fucking basic then come back to it after a few weeks.

>>3136751
The lip glint looks too realistic. It's a lot more detailed than the rest of the character. Be more sparing with the shine and try not to draw every lip wrinkle unless you are gonna bring the rest of the character more realistically detailed too. Otherwise it sorta makes you look like you have a subconscious vore fetish. The rendering looks alright and the style isn't bad. Not my cup of tea but I can see where you're trying to go with it. If this is a style you want to move towards, maybe try doing some studies from Justice League or Aeon Flux. Not to copy their style but to guide you into the art style you're trying to develop.
Good luck anon.

>>3136582
wow thanks!! I can already tell this book is much more my style.
loomis? more like Ihateyou-mis more like jew-mis more like eatashoe-mis more like who?-mis more like poo-mis more like spew-mis more like notgotaclue-mis more like gobacktothezoo-mis more like boo-mis more like longqueue-mis more like screwyou-mis .
autism

>>3136865
More like pooinloo-mis

>>3136702
Hey, thanks a whole bunch for this, I think you're the anon who commented on my last (much more rushed) painting (the snow landscape). I just wanted to let you know that I love and try to soak in as much of your advice as I can, and that's what prompted me to get into more detail with this piece (I was getting frustrated and antsy to just make a nice landscape painting, before I started detailing this and realized I can have the patience to draw tiny bits of grass and rock).
You told me last time to find what appeals to me - with this picture, it is probably the icy, Nordic feeling I get and the potential for a story (I've just been watching Star Wars a lot and this looks like an area where machinery may have been). But yeah, I will probably choose something more appealing next time.
I hope to use your advice alongside this current environment painting course i'm watching to really get into it. Painting the details in this painting yesterday really opened my eyes to how much time, patience and attention to detail landscape painting requires, even if you told me last time about how long it takes (and that you love doing the little details - I'm starting to get it now).

Interesting that you talk about Pleine Air painting - i've been really getting into James Gurney lately, having read most of his book on colour & light and fantasy creatures, and been going through a bunch of his youtube videos - to be honest, I think his paintings are what sparked my sudden interest in painting landscapes and studying light & colour (or at least developing those undeveloped skills of mine). Pleine Air painting looks really tasty when he does it - but that would require I buy a bunch of things and start learning gouache wouldn't it? (Or at least I would want to learn gouache because he does it so nice).
Thanks again for helping me.

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>>3136751
This exercise _guarantees_ improvement in your shading that will be visible to anyone:
Animate a lightsource traveling over a scene with a cube, sphere and pyramid. See pic.

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How i into cast shadow?

>>3136927
to be clear, the light path is right above these objects

>>3136927
How many values should be used? 1-2? 3-4? 7+?

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>>3136928
shading and specular looks cool. shadow needs to be cast further

>>3136932
3-4

>>3136250
The back of the oblique is supposed to be further front from the butt. The butt transitions smoothly into the back muscles, so that line you made for the oblique shouldn't be touching the butt.

>>3136691
not me

>>3136936
THANKS. That light source diagram just made shit 1000x easier. I think ill make one for every single drawing I make from now on.

>>3136954
That's the power of Loomis ("Successful Drawing")

>>3136953
me

>>3136973
Probably not me

>>3136967
>tfw have yet to get to this book
It looks like a general book though as opposed to a book for beginners, as in, if you've been drawing for a while and this book will tell you what to keep in mind to have and make better drawings.

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>>3136977
>>3136973
not me
>>3136953
me

>>3136981
That ain't no sharingan.

>>3136980
https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw
books & articles -> loomis ->Successful Drawing

from here
>>>3122728 →

>>3136981
linework is starting to look tight.

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Trying to eyeball without measuring and no erase or anything warp/transform tool. Need to get rid of this bad habit.

Wonkkkyy

>>3137000
>chinese doctor strange

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Why is the illumati preventin me frI'm making a perfect pyramid?

>>3137005
from*

>>3137005
shade each face uniformly with one value. don't add gradients and bumps. It's flat! that is the reason it sucks.

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>>3135886
your linework is the worst offender.

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lmao my attempt at the sticky test

>>3137116
Flip it my dude

>>3136983

i was thinking water lilis but it kinda looks like fIDgIOT spinners.

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>>3137126
Head is way too small

>>3136104
>>3136010
>>3136009
I want your feed back

>>3137198
Redline NoseBro

>>3137198
leave /beg/

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Woo, cleaned up the linework and added basic coloring. Thoughts?

>>3135783
nigga use a ruler next time

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>>3137288
conseille hill

>>3137288
Crying guy's expression is very weak. Look up some reference for whatever expression you're trying to convey

>>3137312
Hm, you're right. Thanks!

What's the benefits of drawing a reference mirrored again?

>>3137360
Not symbol drawing.

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>>3135773
I tried. Did I do it right?

>>3137428
>>3130657

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Trying my hand at Ahegao stuff I did a couple today but Ill just post the one i finished. Any suggestions from hentai/lewd artists is appreciated

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Quick drawing with crayola markers and water.

>>3136086
yeah but not good. Why are people who suck trying to teach? Its almost hilarious how evil and disgusting he made the kid look. If he flipped his canvas even once he'd have an anyeurism

>>3136088
what the absolue shit is this supposed to mean?

>>3136548
looks quite a lot like a Bog brother

>>3137077
>redlining in black so you can't even see the original image

>>3137148
also it kind of looks more like gumby James Joyce with downsyndrome than Sravinsky

>>3137501
anyone who uses DBZ for reference should be shot on sight

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I never drew a front view of a person before and I just finished Drawing on the right side of the brain

what do you think? should I keep going or am I hopeless?

>>3137562
Looks good enough, keep going

>>3137562
looks good for a first try
now do side, 3/4, and start moving on to making things more 3d.

>>3137511
>open each image in a tab. flip between them.
if you can't even do that, ngmi

>>3137116
>>3137148
Why do I keep seeing this on this board? I sure hope people aren't starting with "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" instead of doing the Bargue drawing course instead.

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I feel like garbage. 4 hours spent on this shit. I wish I was dead.

>>3137608
is that the LCD Soundsystem guy?

>>3137625
Yes

>>3137626
well its not that bad so I don't know why you're so upset

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still need alot of work on anatomy. ;(

>>3137659
I like this one the most of the bodies I've seen from you so far, the thorax region seems disproportionately large tho

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any tips about drawing arms?

>>3137659
You don't need to namefag, you art is pretty easy to recognize at this point.

Keep pushing buddy.

>>3136009
>contrast of value.

literally none of those included in your work. its just an outline. we gonna skip the general wobblines of your lines. You gotta be concious about the contour lines weight, make them thinner where the light would hit. now its all over the place, its realy thick on the top of the nipples, and thin on the top of controller but again, thick on the bottom. you follow me?

>>3137659
it will be cool to see you improve.

- hips too small. Looks barely wider than his neck. Wrap your hands around your neck and hips to internalize the difference.
- his skull slopes down way too quick, same in your sketch. The top of a head is relatively even/flat!
- His nose goes down perfectly vertical. That's not how noses work :^)

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>>3137665
>thorax
had to google what that was for a sec, your right.

>>3137683
you're definitely right about the hips, skull and nose. I always dunno if it would be better to fix it or make a whole new drawing to learn.

>>3137679
kinda like the name though.

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>>3137676
I've compiled you some arm stuff
https://imgur.com/a/rqUa1

I find looking at stylized arms helps understanding them more easily.

>>3137688
Do a quick fix, to see how it looks. it definitely won't hurt.

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>>3137698
>>3137683
>>3137665
hips prob still to thin, but the nose and thorax region feel better.

>>3137706
yea. skull still a little low. And you're looking up at his face so you'd see more of the underside of his nose.

>>3137695
thank you anon, this is very helpful

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Critique and I also want to find a way to self teach art fundies.

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>>3137695
>imgur

>>3137780
What? It's just an easy way to compile images and share them. He's not in the community if it's private and isn't pandering to imgur users.

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>>3137708

>>3137645
I posted it on another forum and everyone there made fun of me for it

>>3137791
What a bunch of dicks
/ic/ would never do that

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>>3137608
here's the ref btw

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Thanks loomis

>>3137877
that's a big head

>>3137950
>>3137950
>>3137950
>>3137950

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What's the best way to copy and learn from an artist you really admire?

>>3137978
What a stupid question.
Draw their work dumbskull.

>>3137779
pleas reply

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>>3138010

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Will doing studies upside down make you stop symbol drawing or do you have to mindlessly ham out a ton of normal studies and chant "DON'T SYMBOL DRAW FAGGOT" to yourself all the while you do it

https://vitruvianstudio.com/course/portrait-drawing/

How is this course? I'm disappointed in my current ability to make my art look like whoever I'm trying to draw (I fucking HATE blocking in the head) and I thought this could be useful.

>>3138037
If you need handholding because the books in the sticky weren't enough for you, go for it.

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critique please

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how do necks work?

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Trying to get back into art after abandoning it 7 years ago. I used to be a lot better than this...

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Not sure if this should go in the porn thread, but critique would be nice.

>>3137288
super gay

>>3138103
>different sized tits
>meat wallet
>hand/feet hiding

>>3137779
please critique

>>3138119
loomis

>>3138103
the legs should be thinner, look at it compared to her body.

>>3138022

Study each feature anatomy and form will break your symbol.

>>3138022
How about you fucking read the book

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This is what I have so far...

Do I have what it takes? Will I make it?

>>3138298
That's a stupid question and you should feel bad for asking a bunch of strangers about your fate. It's up to you and if you don't think you have what it takes and you don't want to make it then go live your life with that in mind.

>>3138299
That's honestly a pretty helpful outlook, I'll keep that in mind.

Crit would also be helpful, tho

>>3138037

Personally I would just torrent some tutorials vids. From my experience they all pretty much teach the same way.

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not in the mood but forcing myself to draw something.

Gotta make it a habit...

>>3138298
blog?

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FUCK man

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As well as others in this thread, I was redirected here from the Porn thread, I am having severe issues with the anatomy in this pic, I am at a lost, what do you think?

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>>3138298
do you post work anywhere?

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would watching old videos of him help me with my painting and background design?

I never learned how to properly ink.
Before I'd always go through this long process of sketching it out then trace that sketch onto Bristol or whatever and begin inking.
Similarly in digital I ink on a completely separate layer.
A few days ago I heard someone said that when they ink the key is to actually refine the prexisting lines and not use a separate space entirely.

Does anyone know any good information on inking?

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I don't want to do art. I don't want to do anything. I feel like I have to do something though, so I do art.

People are like 'if you don't enjoy doing it, don't do it!' but I don't enjoy anything really, so I don't think that advice applies to me.

>>3138589
Obviously you should find advice that works for you.

I don't really believe that the "if you don't enjoy doing it, don't do it" advice works for some people either. Either way, you look like you have your life solved out, so there's nothing more for me to tell you except this.

how do u draw lots when u dont want to draw

>>3138596
By drawing. Nothing says you need to want to draw to draw lots except your illogical mind.

>>3138534
>>3138452
Blog is
Praski-blog.tumblr.com but unfortunately that's the only picture on it. I'm gonna pull a bunch of old pieces from my old computer because I think they're worth criticism, but like I said, I had a huge mental breakdown that put me off art for years.
>>3138072
Is the shit I'm currently doing. I'd like to get back to somewhat competent, even if it's for porn.

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>>3135786
This has potential, but your colours are really bad.
I changed the colours a little

>>3135786
Blog?

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I tried drawing again for the first time in several years

It went a lot better than expected. This is a lot better than what I was able to do before, despite not having practiced at all. What in the fuck?
Is it possible that my brain has matured a bit or something? This is really confusing.

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>>3138641

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>>3138643
This one was a bit more crap, but still better than the stuff I could draw before

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>>3138645
>>3138643
>>3138641
For reference: This is the last thing I drew, in 2015

>>3138648
How do i feel the forms?

>>3138654
What?

>>3138648
well the 2015 one looks like shit so maybe you acquired taste in the last couple of years

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>>3138666
Haven't read comics or seen animoo since then.
The only thing I've done is 3D and pixelart.

Maybe it helped me understand 3D shapes better?

>>3138641
>>3138643
>>3138645
How did you study before? Loomis? References?

>>3138671
Never used any kind of reference.
I know you should, to get better, but it's just not enjoyable to make stuff from references.

>>3138672
>enjoying art
NGMI

>>3138675
NGMI?

Drawing is something I only ever do for fun, because I never thought I could get good enough at it to use it for anything.

>>3135773
Did people chicken scratch back in Loomis's days?

>>3138692
Yes. loomis calls it "petting the line" though.

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>>3135959
I drew Spidey too. Was looking at McFarlane's art for reference

>>3138704
Cant even read your signature
Try again

>>3138704
you didn't sign big enough, people can still crop that out

>>3138705
>>3138711
I don't care about the signature, what do you guys think of it? I wanted to use pen but as a result it looks really messy

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>>3138589
No one likes doing work get over it and do something that makes money so you can do as little as possible.

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how long does it take to learn the basics of anatomy?

Currently on the Sternocleidomastoid and this shit is taking forever to learn how to do properly

>>3138719
Basics of anatomy takes like a month. Skeleton, muscles and skin.

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So uh here's mine.

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I can't figure out what's wrong

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>>3138733
My liquify powers are weak but this looked more appealing to me

>>3138730
Thank you for not drawing stars over the moon

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Progress of year one of drawing. I havent drawn as much as I should have and this year is going to be even worse because final year but here you go.

>>3138785
Good shit similar to mine. Saved.

>>3138786
Oh thanks for that. Care to share some of yours?

>>3138785
nice, i like the floof and the feel of the second one.

>>3138789
Yeah the first one is pretty stiff.

Anyone else trained with compass/setsquare but absolutely trash free-hand?

I can draw funky ass buildings and shapes in perfect perspective, but I couldn't draw a banana with a pencil to save my life.

>>3138800
Maybe you should start trying then. It's really not that complicated.

My professor told me to not draw from images only draw from life. She enjoyed my semiblind drawings and supported my choice to draw a bust of julius caesar. Wish me luck ic. I'm leaving the beg gen.

>>3138804
See you tomorrow

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>>3138733
>>3138758
here is ref

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anons pls help. something is off but i dont know what is wrong.

>>3138831
stop drawing animu

Why doesn't /beg/ have any references anymore?

>>3138837
because they were useless since i got them all from quickposes anyway, also choosing good refs is a pain in the ass

>>3138831
L O O M I S

>>3138831
-The eyes are too far to the left, when compared to the nose and the chin
-The mouth is too high, or at least make it bigger so that the chin isn't so big
-The nose is too small for the face, though is in the right place

>>3138817
She looks like she has localized dwarfism for her head, your drawing isn't even that bad other than the chin bulge too tall and eyebrows misplaced.
You also made her eyes look towards the camera which makes her look more intense/less aloof

>>3138842
I really liked seeing how other shitters were attempting the same picture.

>>3138882
>>3138882
>>3138882

Holy shit this. I miss seeing someone try the reference and challenge myself to do a good job too.

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flour sack sketching

>>3138900
looks like a fun excercise to do

>>3138900
Now put a flour logo on all of them

There is a chart about how to improve your art game the quickest.
It said something like 4h a day for a year and it listed a bunch of books. anyone have that, please?

>>3135798
yeah keep practicing, and loomis of course

>>3135939
guache, acrylic

>>3136081
shiiiiiiit, this is some next level photographing skills, you not only put one hand put two and one holding the reference WOW, didnt you forgot you starbuck triple makiato faggot
btw you drew the face in front view and straight the girl is not like that

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Looks like crap, but i will promise make better one next time

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I tried to draw a robot girl.

How am I doing?

I think the placement of her right arm is garbage.

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>>3138975
Pretty neat.

I think you could increase her appeal a lot with some changes. I shamelessly went ahead and adjusted her.

From top to bottom
>changes to hair (bangs start closer to forehead, bangs not as wide)
>changes to face (bigger/lowered eyes, face not as long, smaller nose)
>ribcage smaller and higher up
>thin waist
>rounded hips
>longer legs

>>3138990

Wow that actually is quite an improvement. I still have a lot to learn.

Thanks anon.

I was trying to avoid a huge-eyed kawaii uguu anime face but maybe that's the best option. I think it's probably always the best option.

why is Fun with a pencil so hard?

>>3139005
Part of it is taste, you don't necessarily have to go with the face I did. You could probably give her a less pointy chin, more defined nose and smaller/thinner eyes if you wanted to. I just went with a conventional anime qt face since that's got broad appeal, I guess.

>>3138946
Lookin cool. Think clearly about the lighting. It's really messily shaded. Where are the light sources exactly. Why is there a shadown on the right. Why a gradient in lighting on a flat surface? Draw something simpler (cube, sphere) and shade that accurately. If you need resources I will link them to ya.

>>3139015
I thought why i paint like that 1hour after finished this piece, especially gradient on flat surface

And i realize, i shouldn't paint with imagination this point, thanks

>>3139011
Hard how?

>>3137486
Please learn how to draw before even stepping one foot into porn (plus don't write in Japanese if you don't lnow Japanese)

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Drew some fan art. What do you think?

>>3139034
gave me hemorrhoids hard

>>3139041
How are you so good, Soda?

>>3139041
>draws it digitally
>it comes out looking traditional
what the fuck

>>3139020
no man draw from imagination, just scale it down and look at ways of getting it right (e.g. loomis).

>>3139054
Have you ever heard of a scanner??

>>3138975
>>3138990
These both suck.

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Something seems off in my drawing, concrit please?? I covered the other eye bc it looks retarded lmao (I know why it does though, so it's fine)

>>3139073

Y-you too

Anything in particular that's bad about them?

>>3139074
collar looks very flat. How are your skills regarding drawing cubes and cylinders in perspective from any angle? I imagine practicing that would deffo help.

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copied heads from jin roh, first time trying a style

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I tried to go sort of halfway with these changes >>3138990 , and also realised she didn't have any eyebrows before, is she qt yet?

I am sorry for being an awful weeaboo

>>3139136
Give the one in the top left a second attempt.

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did some loomis practice since fwap is all i have on my phone. what i see is i can't draw hair and the old man's head is too narrow to hold his brain

>>3135773
What books help out with understanding planes?

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>>3139170
https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw
books & articles -> perspective -> scott robertson - how to draw
p.124 - p.146

from here
>>>3122728 →

>>3139182
actually until page 155

>>3139163
idk how to fix it
whats wrong?
redline?

>>3139041
that anatomy is gross. like the legs are 3x the length of the torso.

>>3135783
sketch out the perspective you're using lightly before you start maybe, at the moment everything looks really flat and doesnt really look like a combat robot

>>3135785
haunting

>>3135786
needs to be rendered with correct brushes, maybe use harder/textured brushes for stuff like the trees fog and water. from afar the bottom half looks good

>>3135815
symbol drawing, if you draw the shadows to describe the face for demon man it would look alot more menacing, and it's unfinished! finish it and i'm sure it'll look good

>>3135908
line weight and not having such feathery strokes for the outline of the face and any 'hard' transitions would make it look x10 better imo

>>3135989
>>3135993
second one is really nice a little vague, maybe the top one could use softer brushes or a larger block in for the light lime greens

>>3136010
learn how to make sweeping long straight lines and curves, your line work looks too meticulous and rigid, to generate a realistic 'curve' you need a little looseness and flow or some shit, look at this product sketcher -> https://www.instagram.com/p/BS-SEAeh67S/?taken-by=sangwonseok

>>3136082
arms a little short for the darker deerson, could use some muscles in the legs

>>3136104
maybe your observation is great but your lines are so boring, no expression or looseness imo

>>3136377
smooth the light areas near the brow ridge and its pretty good, nice

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I keep trying to draw those heads at the start of Loomis' book but I keep failing and end up with stuff like this and I can't stop feeling autistic about it

How necessary is it to have all the recommend materials from Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain? Things like the clear plastic and making viewfinders. If I have to get it then I will but hoping to see what can be done with paper and pencil.

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excuse the weeb shit but I'd appreciate some critique. I feel like the pose is a bit stale, how fix?

>>3139248
>>3137834

>>3139248
git gud

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>>3139206
then you need to learn and practice how to draw boxes in perspective, and apply that to the entire head.

>>3139288
your construction is different
what was wrong with my construction?

>>3139248
both legs are dangling limply. lift one leg, and make the other stretch. give the hips some tilt.

>>3139291
it is a complete mess

>>3139295
what did i do wrong?

>>3139299
ngmi

>>3139299
show the heads you copied

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I'm having a tough time getting the front view of the head right. i can't seem to get the jaw line right for it any tips?

>>3139322
Loomis will help

>>3139324
i have a tough time with loomis are there any videos tutorials on it that are decent?

>>3139322
i recognise you from when you were still at the same stage 8 months ago

>>3139354
what?

>>3139316
they are gone
to sum it up they look somewhat like the ones i copied, but not very much. the top left downward one is probably completely off. how do i not make the same mistake again? what about the construction is wrong?

>>3139339
Jazza and Syrca have good face proportion videoes

>>3139339
Also, I think I know what your problem is
You're not trying to sketch in the correct way
you keep holding your pen trying to make line on one go
this isn't right
try to slowly sketch it by making small lines that you can correct as you go on

>>3139041
Get off /ic/ Sota. Go dick Magane or something.

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I want to die
why am I like this?

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>>3140400
maybe try traditional instead of digital?

>>3140471
it looks as worse

>>3140490
did you read the other book first? the right side of the brain or something?

>>3140492
I did

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How can I improve my faces?

>>3136377
Actually pretty good anon

>>3140930
Draw more faces.