Art Career Cheat Code

>>3134101
I didn't know dogs had teeth on their tongue

>>3134101
Funny thing, I just came back from a trip to Gdansk, Poland and I thought the same. It's very cheap living there and "making it" should be much easier. It's not even that bad of a country

>>3134101
20k a Year is a decent salary

>>3134141
what about language issues

Lol

Good luck making it in Warszawa or Kraków with $20.000 a year.

>>3134101
Holy fuck the cost of living there is so low...why?

Too bad I'm a shitskin. It's probably a white country and I'd stick out like a sore thumb.

>>3134249
We hate niggers in Poland

>>3134210
I had a bit of russian back in school, so I have a base. And there are a lot of similarities between these languages. I found it really easy to learn new words when I was around people there. But yeah, other than in the big cities english isn't really spoken, so that's a bummer

>>3134249
Well when population is poor u cant charge much for costs of living

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>>3134101
I'd be over the moon if I made even 5k dollarydoos a year. I only get a couple of $60-80 commissions a month (though I'm grateful to be getting even this amount). Though my rendering is shit anyway, maybe I should get on that and make a lewd patreon or something. Though even pretty decent people sometimes only get pennies there. Why is life so hard?

I think moving to any shithole country while in the phase of getting good is an amazing strategy. Benefit from low cost of living, buying you more time to study over doing commissioned art, you get to be culturally enriched (unironically) and perhaps most importantly you get away from friends and family who might make you second guess you're lifegoals, tell you to get a job, demorelise you or just ask you to hang out and go party all the time.

if I didn't have a gf I'd leave to cambodia, colombia or poland in a heartbeat. Not permanently but for a few years.

>>3134191

Hahaaaa wait till you're 30

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how do you make your art global and what is the best way to take on commisions online

>It's another thread where /ic/ thinks a career in art is strictly working in fantasy/scifi/concept art or porn Patreons.

Don't be this person.

>>3134598
Well what else is there?

>>3134268
People hate my kind everywhere, even in Africa.

>>3134620
You really can't think of any creative work outside of fantasy/scifi/concept art?

>>3134623
No, all the rest is garbage. Comis and manga are another creative work but the chance of getting into those industries and getting big enough to where you don't to pander for appeal is almost as likely as a short guy making it into the NBA.

>>3134268
"we", aka the backwards dumbasses of Poland. You don't speak for the decent people of Poland.

>>3134623
Can you just answer the question in a civilized way? What else can you do as an artist on regular basis outside of

>fantasy illustration
>sf illustration
>concept art
>patreon/selling prints etc.

and not starve?

Just pls dont bring up some 0.001% lucky guy who randomly managed to make his own webcomic big and popular or shit like that.

>>3134675
Just off the top of my head:

>editorial illustrator
>motion graphics designs
>packaging artist
>mural artist
>art/creative director
>graphic designer
>children book illustrator
>apparel designer
>portrait photographer
>animator
>gig poster artist
>3d Modeler
>3d animation
>2d animation
>graphic designer
>web designer
>UI/UX artist
>book cover illustrator
>product/industrial design
>beer label artwork (I know multiple people who do this full time for breweries)
>video editing
>caricature artist
>packaging illustrator
>typeface designer

And on, and on, and on.

All of these jobs are done by artists, and each of them alone could provide a livable US income. Take a look around you -
everything you see that has artwork on it was created by an artist. Many artists will work in a few different fields to increase their likelihood of finding work. For example, an artist could have regular editorial work, but more work on top of that like an occasional book covers commission, a gig poster for a popular band every once in a while, a few graphic design odd jobs, etc.

There are too many people on /ic/ that think art & illustration only refers to digital painting and the likes. That's to be expected as that's the focus of this community, but it's alarming how many people are convinced that that's the only way to go. It's simply astounding to me how narrow some peoples view of the art world is. It's like you've all been living under a rock.

>>3134726
>>3d Modeler
>>3d animation
>graphic designer
>web designer
>UI/UX artist
there are boards for that and /ic/ isn't it
>video editing
even my mom can video edit
>animator
we have a general just for this
>children book illustrator
we have people who want to illustrate children and not in a good way

>>3134726
>>3134729
But you cant do all of these at the same time, you need to git gud at one thing or maximum two disciplines

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>>3134726
yeah, half of those aren't actually drawing and will require gitting gud at completely different things, and the other half will not offer you stable gigs unless you're very lucky or have worked specifically for this field before and/or have an actual design/3d/whatever degree. Large companies and studios won't hire a literal who without one, and some small time band/online shop/home brewery guy would rather get his nephew to design him a logo, so unless you happen to be this nephew you're SOL. And good luck trying to get your 'folio to be seen by anyone amidst the sea of hungry pajeets and ivans willing to do shit for literal pennies.
Commissions and patreons etc. are the esiest to get into, there's probably someone out there willing to give you money for his fetish pony drawings even if you're absolute shit, that's why most people on /ic/ think about getting into that if they want to earn dosh with their drawings. Also you don't have to actually talk to people.

>>3134767
See this post and learn what mentality you should NOT have.

>>3134767
>half of those aren't actually drawing
You're aware that you can be an artist that focuses on things other than drawing, right?

Everything else in your post is just complaining about how hard it is. No one is saying that it's easy to build a career in art, but these are all real jobs that real people have. It's all very possible, but I figured it went without saying that it is hard and competitive. Thanks for reiterating the obvious, I guess. Just don't blame the world for your own shortcomings and failures.

>patreons etc. are the esiest to get into
Absolutely in no way is this true. By my observations, the easiest creative field to get into is graphic design. The bar for entry is absurdly low. You can get entry level graphic design jobs very easily - far more easy than building up a devoted online following and monetizing them on Patreon.

>>3134726
As I thought.

>graphic designer
>apparel designer
>portrait photographer
>3d Modeler
>3d animation
>UI/UX artist
>animator
>graphic designer
>web designer

Wrong board.

>editorial illustrator

Boring as fuck.

>children book illustrator
>caricature artist
>mural artist
>gig poster artist

Might as well shoot yourself in the head right now and end it all.

>book cover illustrator

Drawn/painted illustrations are usually in fantasy/sf, so its still fantasy/sf illustrator

>video editing
>motion graphics designs
>packaging artist

??? You trolling?

>art/creative director

After x years of experience as illustrator or concept artist, yeah.

>beer label artwork (I know multiple people who do this full time for breweries)
>packaging illustrator
>typeface designer

Nothing/not much to do with painting/drawing.

>>3134268
even christian and brown one?

>>3134798
What a bunch lazy excuses & deflections.

>Wrong board.
This thread is about art careers, not 4chan boards.

>Boring as fuck.
>Might as well shoot yourself in the head right now and end it all.
Not an argument, just opinions.

>Drawn/painted illustrations are usually in fantasy/sf
Baseless and untrue.

>??? You trolling?
Useless comment.

>After x years of experience as illustrator or concept artist, yeah.
Or maybe after years of experience doing other types of art.

Your issue seems to be that you think the only jobs in art & design revolve around drawing and painting, which is delusional and out of touch. Art does not mean just drawing. It's embarrassing that you need to be told that.

>>3134813
> you think the only jobs in art & design revolve around drawing and painting, which is delusional and out of touch. Art does not mean just drawing.

Just because theres bunch of low entry jobs that have "artist" label on them doesnt mean actual artists and people who want to be actual artists want to do those. Being on this board you should have the understanding that the functional definition of art in here is much different than the normie one and we generally laugh when some web UI designer, video editor or some shit thinks he's an artist, and when someone asks about "art career" he means "how do I get people to pay me for me to draw/paint/sculpt".

>>3134141
nnnnnnnn

>>3134832
You really seem very inexperienced, have you ever have a job?