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These are some weird characters I'm making, I'm planning on making a few more and hopefully smashing them all into one picture which might not work but we'll see. They're supposed to be gods, but of what specifically I'm not sure

I don't know, are they too weird or boring?

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>>3111140
Fucked up the file

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>>3111142
looks nioce m8
>>3111158
good feeling of speed and motion

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>>3111135
What do you goys think of my tan/personification/mascot/anthro/etc. ?

>>3111318
One of the most boring, uninspired personifications I've ever seen

Even /v/ does better with their console-tans.

>>3111142
I think they a weird in a cool way. Maybe the silhouette could be better.

>>3111318
A bit unimaginative perhaps.

Here is a horse from imagination

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>>3111328

>>3111135
>you can delete it there and repost it
Unrelated question, how to delete a post more than a 10 minutes old?

>>3111334
I don't think you can. Also I don't think anyone cares if you have the same post in both drawthreads. Whoever wrote this sticky was a Melvin

>>3111330
I like the colour palette but the horse looks stiff and like a doll or something

>>3111407
I agree, i'm just recently learning how to draw horses. Next time I will challange my self with a more dynamic pose. thank you for the feedback.

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>>3111158
Great detail, looks amazing. I think the left hand should be a bit bigger, since it's closer than the right hand, but I'm just nit- picking.
>>3111330
The anatomy is really good. It would probably be enough to change the positions of the legs a little to make it look less doll-like

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>>3111135
doing doodles

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>>3111434
I love the pose and folds, blog?

>>3111135
i woulda made a new one but i have a horrible habit of putting my own work in the op

>>3111597
is that... norm macdonald?

looks like it could be his brother horm mcdonalds

>>3111645
Lol yeah it's supposed to be the face he does at the beginning of the Gilbert Gottfried podcast

>>3111651
How do you like the new season so far? I found the bobby lee and david letterman ones unwatchable but mike tyson and sarah silverman were great.

>>3111662
Norm either respects the guest too much or is way to xanaxed out in the new episodes. The fact that he doesn't fuck with the guests kills the amazing vibe the first two season had to them. Also the opening remarks and jokes sections have been cut way short, and the jokes themselves don't seem as funny as before.

The worst part though is the fact that Egret is now 'in' on the joke that he's a holocaust denying punching bag, which makes it much harder to have genuine moments of him being bullied by Norm and the guests.

>>3111682
the moment in the british guy episode where norm forgets adam's name was choicely vicious.

but yeah some of the best moments in the show are from opening remarks, and I think some of the pressure is that the guests he's got now are HUUUUGE celebrities, so he doesn't want to step on their toes. When he had nobodies like Todd Glass on he had no problem making fun of him.

I think the most interesting moment out of all of the new ones was Mike Tyson making fun of Norm the whole time. When he grabs his arm and norms like "please don't snap my wrist like a twig" it reminded me of how i dealt with big rough-housey guys at school that wanted to be my friend. Just laugh and jokingly tell them not to beat the shit out of you.

>>3111691
During the part where Tyson was slapping Norm with the card and yelling "SAY IT HONKY" I was honestly scared for Norm because a few days before that I'd just watched an episode of the Mike Tyson Mysteries show where the character Norm voices says to his buddy that Mike Tyson could kill them at any time.

The scene is at the 9:05 mark
http://watchcartoonsonline.eu/watch/mike-tyson-mysteries-s3-ep05-foxcroft-academy-for-boys/

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Any ideas on how to paint texture more efficiently?

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>>3111754
I like that brushwork a lot. Fuck textures, let the forms speak.

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>>3111597

It is all animu style drawing. You probably won't like it since /ic/ hates weeb shit

http://andreclemente.tumblr.com/

>>3111780
Your pic really motivates to learn texture.

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My first time working with color, only worked with grayscale up to this point. looking for crit on everything.

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What's the problem with this painting?

>>3111903
The brow ridgesare wrong, draw the center line.

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>>3111142
An update.

>>3111429
No feedback for me? :(

>>3112453
go back to your corner, gayboy.

>>3111429
It's a flat pose and the proportions look off. Keep going though.

>>3112463
Can you give me some advice about the proportions?

>>3112465
There is a chart from loomis on proportions, try compare it, But it seems to me that the head is a bit to big not sure. But that might not be the biggest flaw, The silhouette is super straight, you should show a bit of the bum and the arch back. the hand is also wierd, try looking up some reference for that.

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>>3111903
Was the low contrast intentional? If not maybe you would like to adjust it.

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You guys are much better than this than me, do you have any advice? I'd like to add more edges and render this more but I'm lost.
I'm trying to paint a geyser, I'm looking at references but decided to make my own instead of a study because most of the pictures of them are really dull and ugly looking.

>>3112548
Nice colors although they look a bit saturated, it reminds me of a disney cartoon. Whats going on in the back of the house?
>>3111903
show the ref and we can tell you. It looks like there should be a stronger shadow to outline the overall shape of his face, but it may have been a bad photo.

Nosebro what do you think of this acrylic painting?

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Nosebro!

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Warm up doodles. Found I can break out of my "same creature body type" funk by drawing forms fast and scribbly and building on it. These were fun.

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drew my hand

>>3113055
Is that charcoal with pencil?

>>3113055
>isis

>>3113157
just pencil

>>3113055
very nice photorealism!!

>>3113023
stop muh styling. the eyes arent in focus and thats the best part of your drawing.

>>3113023
you clearly only draw that face, cause that's the only thing that looks confident

not sure what those acute angles on her neck are, think you just saw that in another painting so you think that's what necks look like, and the boobs are perfect circles, which is incredibly generous to women's breasts.

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should have picked something easier to do my first study

>>3113302
looks nice anyhow, anon. are you giving up here?

>>3113303
will finish it once i stop wasting time drawing anime girls

>>3113302
keep going. you can learn a lot from a challenging study, and it's turning out interesting so far.

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The wide angle lens made her hand look weird as fuck so I omitted it. Just a value study anyways.

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drawing a cute spacegirl. her spacesuit kind of looks like a condom, which wasn't intentional.

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also drew these guys.

>>3113030

These are really good.

>>3113292
>not sure what those acute angles on her neck are

cmon faggot, its terrible but its obviously the sternocleidomastoid

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I need your help guys, after flipping too much i don't know which side is better now. Help me decide pls

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CRIT MY FUCKING STUDY?

ref
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>>3113536
I was inspired by this artist, nbekkaliev. But I cannot fucking figure out how to get such a smooth, soft looking finish.

This artist is the only reason I'm bothering to learn how to paint. The softness. I want it for my own. Please, someone who knows what they're doing, clue me in? I'll seriously be your slave

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>>3113556
i tried a quick study. im not as confused anymore. but still willing to hear advice.

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>>3113563
tried my own with random shapes. am i the only one awake?

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whee

>>3112291
Can you post your blog, I like your designs.

>>3113556
>>3113563
>>3113592
It's just a two value system. One value for lights, one value for shadows. Use a soft brush or smudge tool to soften the terminator line. Soften it more on rounder forms and keep it harder on more sudden plane changes.

>>3113556
https://gumroad.com/l/IYgMb

>>3113898
thank you, kind stranger. its really easy to tell for you?
>>3113903
thanks for this, i should buy it

>>3113601
dark, I like it

>>3112291
I like your style a lot.

>>3113872
Seconding this

>>3113556

This would probably help you:

https://mega.nz/#!6cgXiJ4I!XVTZBHHA-WFvVz0YrZZdQHdnI2lx9uSV-HOOUOizodo

Sam Nielson's smudge/blend brush. Never found a better way to get a smooth finish.

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Starting to play around with GIMP
I ain't got no tablet or anything fancy, so I've gotta sketch with my mouse.
Old skool.
Used a couple outside sources +++

>>3114007
Thank you senpai. You're kind.

I downloaded this and two other brush packs, I'm starting to have trouble organizing it. I'm not even sure which brushes are the new ones. Is there a more efficient way?

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>>3111330

>>3114005
>>3113872
themichaelmacrae

>>3114023
Your art is awesome, do you have a process example it would be great to see it.

>>3114081
I have one in my gallery, And I've got a few clusters of progress jpgs from a few pictures but they're a bit messy. I might upload them some time.

>>3112291
With shitty drawings you do, I'm surprise your on somewhat "decent and getting job Cryptids level", thanks to digital media and good rendering skills. You should focus on drawing more, thou, I remember all your wips were lackluster (and this one too).

>>3113030
i really like these

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never done much in the way of enviroment studies, so here I go. this is a wip

>>3114246
looks half-assed

i hope the finished product looks better

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>>3114258
hopefully. I haven't done any of the snow or details yet. just been working on values.

>>3111135
>tfw the only time you see your art reposted on ic is to make fun of it

:/

>>3114298
h'haaaaaaaaa

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Do you like my girl?

>>3114169
Oh well, can't please em all I suppose

But could you elaborate on what exactly you mean by focus on drawing more? That's such a broad statement it doesn't help at all.

>Wips are lackluster

Again, could you be specific?

>>3114023
Holy shit, I remember obsessing over you like 6 years ago when I didn't even draw. I liked that girl with the flying stick. (not so) small world!

>>3114169
Also since I have your attention

Here's another lackluster wip

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>>3114500
fuck me

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>>3114225
Study these, I learned a lot about drawing hands from them

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>>3114507

>>3114501
Actually, don't listen to me, I'm just being mean and I like some of recent of your works.

>>3114507
>>3114510
>Studying from studies
Am I the only one to which this raises red flags?

>>3114641
studying from a study is fine so long as it a good one

>>3114641
It can help clarifying how another artist has chosen to engage and solve a problem.
If you're able to see and understand parts of their process you're able to take it and apply it for yourself.

>>3111876
Would really appreciate crit on this.

>>3111876
The frog anatomy isn't very convincing. And the red strap i think should be more stretched. Other than that it's a fun portrait.

>>3111876
Way too much soft brush, no occlusion shadows, values aren't dark enough, it looks like your randomly smeared orange so you need to place colours more thoughtfully, the frogs back is in shadow for no reason.

>>3114795
>>3114804
thanks.

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I drew this in the photoshop, but don't finished.

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Could you please help me with my work here? I would like to learn more about concept art and I don't know how to even start or what should be my next step.

>>3114628
I swear to god I've talked to you before

>>3114641
This: >>3114677

I find it difficult to figure out the intricate details of how say, a hand is shaped but when you see another artist tackle it, you see what they emphasize and as you study their drawings and start to look at the original reference (your hand) suddenly all those things you picked out in their drawings are much more obvious.

>>3114817
in thumbnail the dark bit on the neck looks like the inside of his mouth and he's screaming

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Does anybody know why this looks sort of off?

>>3115207
Now that I look at it, I realize the vanishing points aren't really at 90 degree angles when they should be, so it winds-up looking fucked-up.

I didn't want to compromise the composition to fix it, but I should've.

>>3115207
>>3115209
Fuck, god-damn.

I just realized I broke the perspective once again on the right side of the wall, so it's no wonder everything is wonky as hell.

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I did this yesterday and can't help but wonder what I could of done to make it better other than polishing it up more.

>>3115349
There's no contrast to this shit at all.

You need to darken your darks and lighten your lights.

It's ugly, and it's totally detached from reality.

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well this is tiring me out. might start over with a ref that has less twigs. not a 3rd of the way done with this but eh.

>>3115349
Observe your reference more closely. You got some incorrect proportions, made the helmet way too small, painted values as you imagined them instead of what is in front of you etc. You don't need to add more detail or polish, but get a higher degree of accuracy at the stage you are at.

>>3115364
Careful with overusing that grainy texture brush. Right now it is flattening the image/ruining scale, and also making all your materials look the same. Be more selective in where the texture appears, and use it sparingly only when needed.

>>3115370
thanks for the advice, i'm new to using texture brushes.

>>3114859
Nope, you didn't. I wasn't on /ic since november 2016

>>3115364
A good attempt, but now, go back, and try again, and this time paint what's actually there, and not what you think is there. Actually draw the shapes of the trees, with lighting and texture, instead of these Bob Ross "happy trees" symbol painting. Paint the actual forms and textures of the mountains - a shot like that, you should have more than enough detail to work with. Work at a larger resolution, so you don't get the pixelated effect, which is ruining the work.

>>3114847
Concept art is about concept - obviously. To be a good conceptual artist, it requires good painting and drawing skills, but also good ideas. You're fleshing out a reality from references or ideas from other people. Illustration, in the general sense, is the same thing - you're painting ideas, not still life or landscapes. If you look at "Art Of..." books for games, you'll see the artists exploring ideas, concepts, themes, moods, color schemes, every part of the decision making process of designing a game.
Your path right now should be continuing to develop your drawing and painting skills, and your conceptual skills. Design characters, settings, moods. Pick a couple of your favorite albums, and design covers for them. Pick a couple games, and design characters/settings. Pick a couple favorite books, and do some illustrations of the story, and work out what the characters and settings look like.
Conceptual art is training your hand, your eye, and your brain. You can't rush it, and you can't cheat it - you either have the skills to do it, or you don't. There's nothing wrong with not being able to do it, your strengths may be elsewhere.

>>3115428
I may redo this one then, thanks. To be honest I stopped drawing the exact trees because there were so many, and in environment drawing there seems to be so many ambiguous/"random" shapes to draw that drawing them exact felt like the "wrong" way to go about things. Especially with this picture, because there are soooo many dots of snow in the reference that I would never be able to draw. What do you think?

Also, I was working at 2000px as per usual - too small or no?

>>3115478
2000px, at what dimensions? I generally work at 2x the final output size (or just a basic size, like 11x17) at 300 dpi - printers don't need more than that.

As for drawing details - that's one of the things about landscapes - the details can take forever. Maybe it's just not your thing - I like doing it. You don't have to be 100% accurate - who's gonna know? - but you should be painting more accurate forms of the trees, not the symbol painting you're doing. Yes, it can be tedious - but again, maybe it's not going to be your thing. I love painting rocks. I love the shapes, the cracks, the textures, the colors - other people would be bored to tears. And, I love landscapes, and making them, nothing better than firing a movie or podcast up, and painting for a couple hours, losing myself in painting trees, trying to make each one unique, and realistic. Each kind of tree has it's own look - how the leaves are bunched, how the limbs grow, how the light reflects off them, how they grow in relation to each other. If that's not your thing, it's fine - but it's how you have to approach it, to do it well. Make sense? If you're doing this just to get it done, and not enjoying it, then I'd say move onto something else. Landscapes are probably not your thing. Or, find other landscapes to paint - you could certainly find an easier one to do. Or, try this again as a drawing, and just capture as many of the contours as you can - the shape and outlines of the hills, rocks, and trees. Then paint on top of that.

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>>3115368
>>3115351
Noted, I guess.
Here's the ref.

>>3115494
Well, I'd like to make it my thing, as i'd feel weird having practiced all other aspects of art except for landscapes. I feel that's important if going into concept/creature design like I plan to. I want to "make it my thing" at least somewhat. I've been reading "colour and light" which is what got me inspired into practicing some landscapes this week, as well as being more aware of light effects in environments.

I can see where you're coming from and I think you worded it really well. I will try to take more care and re-draw this scene and try to get myself interested in the forms and details. Might choose an easier reference, I don't know yet, this one is just kind of daunting with the tiny sticks and snow.

The width is usually 2000px with 300 dpi.

>>3115503
Sounds good. Approaching a landscape is like any painting - what is it about this scene that's important to you to show to other people? Is it the dramatic lighting? Is it the rocks? Is it the way certain leaves look? You can just treat it as an overall "mood" or "feel", but landscape is more than that, it has components, all playing off each other. Start digging into those components, and figure out what really attracts your eye, what is compelling to you. It's easier to sell a landscape if there's something in it that gets you off, personally - you're saying "Hey, check this out!" to your audience. In that respect, reading what photographers see when they take the photos we copy helps break into that mindset.

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>>3115508
You are fantastic at teaching actually, I truly appreciate it. It's given me a lot to think about in terms of appreciating landscapes.

Also, since someone mentioned the over-use of texture brush in my landscape... Here is a study I did earlier but didn't finish (the eyes and surrounding orbits are the only "finished" parts, although he looks cross-eyed), I was wondering if there's an overuse of the texture brush here, and if there is, any suggested method to help balance it?

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experimenting with a brush pen

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>>3115207
In a few words: Your foreshortening is bad and as you've pointed out, you placed your horizon line in the fucking sky. You're going to have to redraw most of this if you want it to look good unfortunately. I'd have done a draw over if I had my tablet but alas this is the best I could do with a trackpad

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WIP for some videogame concepting

>>3115713
Rad. Really reminds me of designs from Okami, the motifs and colour scheme are similar.

>>3115717
Thanks, reminds me that I still haven't played it.

>>3115607
The grip for the weapon is way too wide. When you grip a pistol grip, your thumb rolls forward, not back. The pisto grip is designed to fit between the roll of the thumb and the knuckles and is slanted to fit the angle of the knuckles.

Draw weapons the way weapons are made: to fit the hand. Do not make the hand fit the weapon.

figure from imagination.

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>>3115944

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>>3115947
lol come on dude

>>3115713
Blog? How do I get as good as you?

>>3115947
>>3115960
The power of makeup

>>3115960
l,ao, good edit, makes it clear how ridiculous my face was.

>>3116001
*lmao

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>>3115960
The issue was mostly with how the features related with the frame so i just scale up the features and that seemed to solve the weirdness.

>>3116069
if you say so

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a tattoo request i made for someone

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Thoughts on the rendering so far?

>>3116095 quite an idiotic design. The nozzle wouldnt fit through the gaps. Try wrapping the hose around not through the centerpiece. If someone is dumb enough to scar themselves for life at least try to think about it a bit ffsa

>>3115964
https://exitmothership.deviantart.com/gallery/
That's where most of my stuff is at.

I don't consider myself that good and I think my art still flunctuates a lot in quality, depending on how much time I can put in. And I'm not afraid to use 3D in paintings. One wise anon once said to me: The technical process shouldn't hinder the creative. But at the same time I'm schooling myself each evening in skills necessary for creating art for entertainment. I'm basically going through Scott Robertsons and James Gurneys books as well as "The Skilled Huntsman", "Framed Ink" and anatomy books. It's hard but it seems to pay off. And I have a huge passion for a personal project which this artwork is for.

>>3116432
I like the values but you need better edgework

>>3116852
Sorry for the shitty quality picture

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>>3111434
>>3111847

another doodle

>>3116448
>If someone is dumb enough to scar themselves for life
mate, shut the fuck up you edgy cunt

>>3116864
Nice. What's she holding up? Post the ref?

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did a self portrait

>>3117391
POO IN THE LOO

>>3117391
Why do you draw so many self portraits, you think you're cute or something anon?

>>3117718
no models. im pretty average looking.

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Destroy it. Especially interested in anatomy

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A little progress on this one

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>>3116864

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>>3117379
some kind of silk scarf.

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unfinished fanart

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did a landscape today

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Got the flats, and most of the shadow shapes down today, planning on putting some extra shadows in the creases and and softening it up tomorrow unless there is anything sticking out.

>>3118379
Can you paint anime, Brian?

>>3117952
Do you have a blog?

>>3113556
>all this cursing and self-deprecation

quit talking like a faggot and just get it out

>>3118467
i wish. maybe i could get a cute girlfriend if I could paint cute anime girls

>>3116803

Thanks!!!!

>>3118379
How much do you spend on paint supplies, if you don't mind me asking Brian?

>>3118788
about $3000 a year

>>3118812
how much do you make from selling your paintings per year?

>>3118816
anywhere from nothing to $3000

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Still plugging away at this

>>3118026
This is pretty good. Though I'm sure you've gotten out of it what you needed to, It'd be perfect if you darkened and saturated everything a tad.

>>3118897
sick, really cool
How do you come up with ideas for your paintings?

>>3118918
Inspiration comes from a lot of sources and out of them comes simple ideas that I mull over for a long while until something clicks and the simple idea turns into a more complex one. times I'll have a few simple ideas that on their own aren't much but I'll have an epiphany and combine the two making something worth while. I never just sit down and come up with something out of the blue.

This picture all started with the idea of a vampire like character, who lived in sewers that could spawn multiple limbs from underneath a shawl that I came up with a few years ago, its' only recently that I started combining other ideas with it. Now it's turning into a weird fantasy/folklore thing due to other inspirations

>>3118931
Interesting
Thanks for answering!
Can't wait to see the end result.

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>>3111597
i liked the face so heres my try

what yall think?

>>3118897

I wish I could paint like you. Anywhere I can see more of your work? How did you learn?

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Please, critique

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What do you think of this? I drew a morning sketch then decided to spend a little more time on it. Am I polishing a turd?

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sad portrait

>>3119555
yes

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>>3119040
I'm flattered that you liked the face so much, it looks decent but you'll have a much easier time with the original reference pic

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Hey /draw/ i know there's some oil painters in here. Brian, if I set up the background to a Painting, how long do I have to let it dry before I do the second layer? Or does it not matter as long as I obey fat/lean and am comfortable with the bottom layer's tackiness?

Trying to achieve a parrish-esque effect like 'at close of day'. Doing it on cheap chipboard though, hence the fucked up drippy texture.

>>3119697
what's the medium? are you thinning with turps or linseed oil?

either way if the first layer is thinned enough it should take about 2 hours for turps and 3 or 4 for linseed oil if you plan on painting opaquely on top of it as quickly as possible.

Texturally, if you want absolutely dry, dragged brushstrokes wait a full day. If you want the paint to mix and push around the paint you could wait as short as 20 minutes. If you want to paint thin on top of thin wait a full day as well.

>>3119697
also: shitty canvases like i use cost like $7 a piece if you buy the bundles of them. idk how far a drive it is to the nearest store for canvases, but any canvas is superior for representational work than cardboard. Unless you're planning on doing some kind of youthful, rebellious "I use cheap materials" look.

>>3119707
Thanks for the input! Thinning with linseed, but it was still wet to the touch at 2 days (see lower left corner). Though, maybe wet to a finger means I could still paint on top? It's on there pretty thin, I brushed a lott off.

As for the cardboard, I'm just using it till I have a little confidence with the handling of the medium. $7 puts too much psychological pressure on for experimentation, at least compared to $0.50 cardboard.

Any advice on prepping hardboard perchance?

>>3119264

This looks like my ex girlfriend.

>>3119736
If there's no pressure for experimentation you should just try painting on top of it now. See what is dry enough or wet enough for what you're trying to do

>>3111318
>The pose is awkward as hell
>Your line quality is poor.
> Your anatomy is poor.

>>3111330
The proportions here are off, this looks like a pony, not a fully grown horse.

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>>3119697
If you want a Parrish effect, you need to try and paint like he did. You really can't get close to what he did, without it.

Here's what he did: He would work on primed boards, gessoed over several layers, and sanded with pumice each layer for a perfectly flat surface. Then he'd sketch out what he needed, and would put a layer of varnish over the pencil, letting it dry completely before moving on - and would sand the varnish layer with pumice, to keep it smooth. Then, he would do one layer of each color - one for blue, one for the yellows, one for the reds - a lot of his colors are optically mixed by the eye from multiple layers of paint. Each layer would be varnished, pumiced, and let to dry completely - is paintings took a LONG time, because of that. That's how he got his rich, vibrant colors. He was doing something a couple artists were trying, he was trying to emulate the new methods of screen printing (CMYK), trying to use pure colors, to make it easier to reproduce. Printing tech evolved quickly enough that they were able to reproduce any color an artist mixed on his palette, so the technique didn't become widespread - but it's the best way to get rich, vibrant color that almost glows. If you ever get to see a Parrish in person, you'll understand - they're almost neon colors.
A low rent approach would be to lay each color of the graduation down as it's own transparent layer, using glaze to create the graduation, so the colors mix optically. I've done it on small pieces as an experiment, you can get effects you can't get any other way.

>>3119710
Wood panels are better than canvas, with several layers of gesso, sanded between coats. Speedball has hardwood panels, pre-gessoed, for $2 for a 9x12 panel - they're great for student work. For finished work, I've been using the hardwood on rails they sell at Blick, and gesso them myself. I've never been a fan of canvas, and usually ended up gessoing them up to get rid of the weave - so there's really no point in doing that, so I switched to boards. They're in my opinion superior to canvas. Ampersand has really nice primed boards, but they're more pricey, not really good for learning.
Canvas became popular because it's easier to create flat surface over stretcher bars, than to get perfectly flat pieces of wood. Now, that's not a problem. If you're doing work with a high detail, you should consider wood panels. Don't go below 1/4", though, as those can warp with enough paint on them, unless it's mounted to a frame.
Paper is fine for commercial work that isn't expected to last forever, only long enough to be scanned/photographed. Primed illustration board and heavier bristol is fine, for that kind of work, and canvas papers are fine for learning. Canvas is ONE option, and not necessarily the best by any means. I prefer a flat, rigid board for representational work, with no give like canvas has (the canvas will push in a little with pressure. If you're doing large canvases, like the texture, and want the painting to last, canvas is a good choice. Smaller work ill last just as long on wood panels - a lot of the paintings in museums are on wood panels.

>>3119736
Prepping is the same as any surface, for oil - a couple layers of gesso, sanded in between coats. You might not want to sand the panel for the first coat, for some tooth for the gesso to stick to.
As I posted before, Speedball sells some very cheaply priced hardwood primed panels for a couple of bucks each, you may want to try some.

As for drying, try some Liquin as a medium, with the linseed, or straight. Liquin can halve the drying time of thin glazes.

>>3119850
>ended up gessoing them up to get rid of the weave
well the weave is what makes canvas a good surface. you can create texture in work, or not, and canvas provides an outlet for both. Painting on wood in my experience has one look: flat.

>>3119861
>well the weave is what makes canvas a good surface.
Nonsense. I've studied some of the greatest paintings in the world, in person, from Tadema to Bouguereau to Gerome, and the one commonality is - no canvas texture. They primed their surfaces flat, so the weave wouldn't interfere with the subject.
YOUR paintings might look flat on board, but the masterpieces hanging in museums, painted on board, prove you wrong. Canvas is a choice, not an absolute.

>>3118897
Lovely scene, story and lighting. Was it you who sketched those south american looking garments? Must've been.

Right now it feels like the composition is confused, I would like to see you avoid darker values away from the focal point . Be especially careful with the blue dude in the background as he upsets the leading line from bottom left to the focal point

The top face's left half is offset vertically

The water ripples feel too dark

Anyway, I can tell you're having fun with this and am stoked to see the finished piece!

>>3119850
>>3119856
>>3119861
Awesome, thanks guys. Seriously you just saved me 3 weeks and at least $50 of experimentation.

>>3119835
>glaze to create the graduation
Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying in the pic here, he'd do the yellow gradated into background white, varnish, then blue gradated over white and yellow gradation? Does the varnish matter or will any clear stuff do?

Also, I would think that a layer of varnish over each layer of tube color would dampen colors instead of just laying them on thinly one directly on the next. Where'd you learn about Parrish's process? Pic is what I'm goin for.

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>>3119921
forgot Pic

>>3119921
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/parrishc.htm

Read this, it's from the man himself.

The white in the painting is from the background, the gesso. He would do a layer of blue, transparently - 100% blue, to 0% blue. So the sky would be a glaze where the top has blue paint in the glaze, and the bottom would have none. That would be allowed to dry completely, then he'd do the other colors on top of it. He said he started with blue.

I learned about his technique originally in art history class, and since then, as one of my favorite artists, I own several books on him, some of them very expensive.
This clip on YouTube goes into his technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y3wpHgs5oE
Go to 11:15, there's a demonstration.

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Been watching Oney and decided to do a drawing. Gonna color soon but what do you think so far?

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Could I get some critique please? Thanks.

>>3120196
he kind of looks awkward and silly, but it makes it cute and endearing

>>3120125
Fuck yeah, this explains everything but one thing: if he uses stipple brushes to rough-house pigment across the page into a gradient, how does he achieve intricate razor sharp edges like on mountains, humans, or the columns in daybreak? I feel like it's too rough for any masking fluid or tape to put up with.

Thanks for the links, I've been wondering how to apply "10%" of a color onto a white background forever so I could get vibrant light blues.

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Anyone else feels like the original Asaro head is visibly deformed? It looks like a frog.


>>3120342
That's a very long torso.
Nice rendering tho.

>>3120342
First make your measurements, THEN do details and fancy rendering

geesh, I see this all the time

>>3120354
they are all dumb simplifications, nobody looks like an asaro head. just get a skull

>>3118897

since how long have you been drawing? Did you learn all that from books, or did you just drew a lot from life. Or both?

>>3120446
Both plus some master study and an extensive reference folder

>>3120196
no biological thing would ever be that shape, its hips are like 70% of its bodymass

>>3119792
kek

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is this still /beg/ tier?

>>3120292
>>3120629
Have you people seen the movie? If not then maybe don't critique on the character design.

>>3120638
fucking double check the movie, its still so disproportionately bottom-heavy

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>>3120641
>>3120629
>>3120292
Accounting for foreshortening I don't think its disproportionate at all.

>>3120637
Yes.

>>3120647
just looks like a dinosaur with the proportions of a black woman

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Critique please.

>>3118897

That's fucking amazing... I love this kind of painting.

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Been a while since I've drawn one of these. Worth continuing ?

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>>3120713
I like it

>>3114862
I miss paint

>>3120713
I love the style

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/o/ tists attempt at making a Murican version of Initial-D

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Critique on the values plz.

listening to marx, thinking about commodities
a game based on Capital would be cool

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>>3120894
wrong file

>>3120891
where do you get your references from friend?
I've been saving your studies for a while now. Very inspiring.

>>3120612
saved

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i shoulda asked in the initial sketch before going over it in pen but- are there any glaringly wrong anatomy mistakes in this?

sry about size

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>>3121028
i drew red marks where you should've had body's centerline. Idk if you were going for realistic proportions given the character tho so I'll stop at that...

>>3121109
Ah, yeah I see how it must look jarring. I wanted to exaggerate his midsection with a vacuum pose; which sucks the abdominals under the ribcage, but I understand what you mean.

Whats the little bit by his hand?

>>3121112
>>3121109
oh shoot I just realised I fucked up the chest too

>>3120486
You're not meeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE

>>3120446
I dont and havent done much life drawing and i dont do master studies of any kind. I just sketch a lot I enjoy practicing fundamentals and i try to challenge myself with each piece I do. I look at other artists or things that i spire me and try to learn from them by deconstructing what it is about them that I like, then I try to implement that into the thing I'm working on

>>3121112
thumb placement

>>3121175
what why

>>3119710
Just want to say you were INCREDIBLE as Jorge Salcedo this season of Narcos, seriously think you have an outside shot at an Emmy nomination.

>>3121379
For whatever reason, omitting the rest of the body really irritates me. Draw the whole body.

Pro Tip: Nipples on women have certain rules. If you can see one head on, generally you will see the other at an angle. Looking down, on a woman's body, if you draw a line from each nipple to the spine, it will be an angle around 90 degrees, give or take. The times it won't are for older women, really fat women with pendulous breasts, or a woman with fake boobs. The kind of body you've drawn, the nipple on the right will be in profile.

>>3121387
yawn, thanks for nothing.

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Some T-rex sketches

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trying my hand with ink rendering, thoughts?

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>>3121379
How do i get those nice crisp&soft edges?

I'm trying to push the rendering in this one.

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>>3121436
the edges are all the work of these two

>>3118448

why tho

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>>3121436
Proportions seem a bit off. Eyes and nose a bit too small. Nose and mouth a bit too high. Hands and the entire left leg too large.

Planes in the clavicle and neck area look way off. Break down the forms into something more blocky and pay attention to the angle of the light source. Blend after to round the forms as needed.

>>3121436
You're doing a good job but the head construction is fucked and your hue range is nonexistent. I didn't need a color picker to tell you're you're essentially just playing with value and chroma and it makes your subject look dull and lifeless. You're taking the easy way out with these warm shadows and the least you can do is widen your reach in the light. Give us some movement!

Also, pure black as background for a figure is about the worst thing you can do, work with some secondary light (color) and have it interplay with the hue of your subjects skin, since that's what skin does. It's not just one hue

>>3121379
I really like this, the greys are really pulling their weight here. I don't hate the blurry edge effects but you're not stepping out of your comfort zone by leaving us with a torso. It would be fun to see more greens, and cooler reds, it's a bit too samey "flesh-toned"

>>3121622
>>3121626
Thank you! I'm taking this the distance, So I will take your advice and apply it in this piece. Brb with the improved version.

>>3121518
Cool, you're very skilled at using them!

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drew a bunch of stuff from the reference thread >>3120812 for practice.

>>3120292
>>3120629
>>3120694
Good critique you guys.

>>3120695
very stiff + flat

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made this baby guy

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some anatomy stuff without ref

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a doodle i liked

>>3118448
Just stop

>>3121714
go away.

>>3118448 It looks ok, just needs rendering and a hint of bounce light

>>3121712
Look at your stuff in a mirror and see all the mistakes you've made. Now think about that next time you draw and try to compensate.

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Should I put in a background or leave it blank?

>>3122196
How do I get as good as you?

>>3122196
it looks cool blank. also congrats on being in the 1% of /ic/

>>3122196
push the values. get a darker pencil.

>>3122257
lol

>>3122257
Why?

No, seriously, I want to hear you defend this.

>>3122257
Yeah I should, I'm using charcoal on toned strathmore paper and that's just about as dark as I can get in the shadow areas. The paper is super smooth so the charcoal literally won't stay on. So the value range I'm working with is a bit stunted

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>>3111135
why am i so bad folks
please help

>>3122241
lol, I can tell how shit you are because you think photocopying is impressive

>>3122359
Photocopying itself isn't impressive. Having the technical skill, eye and patience to do a photo study is impressive.

>>3122359
lyl, i can tell you can't do anything impressive.

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>>3122365

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Still still plugging away. I'm rendering everything to oblivion then I'll tweak the values to make it all read better

>>3122489
damn nice rendering especially on the broken statues.

Here's an update.

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>>3122589

>>3122590
That face will follow me into my nightmares.

>>3122632
why?

>>3122634
The proportions are all wrong.

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Recent sketchbook bullshit

>>3122645
nibba what?

>>3122637
not OP, how the fuck does that help if you don't even say where.

I think the foot is foreshortened and the hands are a bit large, but aside from that I don't see any proportion problems. actually looks pretty good, especially the collar bone area. The deltoid at the front should attach a bit more on the clavicle though. also her eyes look dead, maybe give them so shine

>>3122648
You have to be retarded not to see where. How much hand-holding do you need? Apply yourself and get better.

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>>3117952
nice colours, that's generally an appealing look you have picked out there

heres a quick garbage redline since i wanted to point out some things, namely, when you lift up your hand like that, your collarbone lifts too, it's all interconnected. her pose doesn't look like she's really aiming either, idk if you're going for that.
not sure what her other hand is doing, but if its meant to be holding something it should probably be clenched. get up and try the pose yourself. the line on her elbow joint cuts in too far and the overall joint is too thin, there's no room for the muscle and bone. it's also too long, check proportions. also modern skirts are usually cut to cinch around the natural waistline

if anyone wants to redline the redline feel free

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>>3122590
>>3122637
He is right

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How do I get better at painting landscapes/environments?

>>3122662
If you like'em to look moronic sure.

>>3122662
head just needs to be a little smaller and it's fixed

>>3122720
Values are too chaotic.
Buildings on the left seem to be the focal point (because they have the sharpest edges), but there is no flow or detail gradation leading to them.
Also when you draw trees try to variate brush size, for example here you should paint tree in foreground with bigger strokes than rest to show distance.

>>3122489
How do you not lose interest in a piece? Am I just a retard for not being able to diddle at the same picture for a week?

>>3122835
Not op. but I think it's an acquired patience.

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>>3122720
Maybe you should consider drawing more appealing landscapes? From the thumbnail your painting looks like a bland overcast scene. Study hudson river school paintings.

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trees

>>3122835
Move onto something else, and revisit the piece later. It's very common to get stuck, or lose your inspiration for something, and you're just spinning your wheels picking at it, and you'll probably ruin it by overworking it. Put it away, and look at it in a couple weeks/months.

>>3122720
By choosing subjects that have something to say - or that have things in it that appeal to you, and you want to show other people. It could be simply the way the sunlight hits a wall, and creates shadows, or how a line of trees look, or a pretty sky with clouds. It's painting something that catches your eye, and you're saying "hey, check this out!"

Landscapes have evolved over the years. In the dim and distant past, when photography and travel didn't exist for most people, hanging a painting was a way to travel, or explore the world. Immigrants would hang paintings of their home country. People in Europe loved paintings of the east, and Africa.

Now, these days, we can see any point in the globe via photography, so landscape is more personal now, it's you showing people what you find interesting about the world around you, like a cool shaped tree, or dramatic waves on the ocean.

Painting landscape just to get it done? You're probably going to create dull, lifeless snapshots that could be done better with a cell phone camera. You have to invest yourself in what you're showing other people.

Finish this sentence when painting a landscape:

"I'm painting this because I like [fill in the blank]".

If you can't, there's no reason to be doing it.

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Just an idea sketch, how are proportions, composition and values?

>>3123090
Proportions are what they are, this is a cartoon so they can be off and still work.

Composition is awkward. You're trying to do a movie frame, and all you're doing is cutting the scene in half, with a strong diagonal down the left side of the figure in the foreground. Your eye enters the piece, and is directed right out of the piece by that diagonal. The focus of the piece, the figure on the right, is lost because of that.
And, because the right side isn't finished, the entire thing feels cramped and pushed to the left.
Values are flat. There is no difference in value, in the planes of space, the values of the background are the same as the values of the foreground. You're trying to create drama in a scene, but the values strip it out. The eye doesn't know where to go (that compositional issue doesnt help, either), and we have no visual cues what's the focus and narrative of it. The level of detail is the same, as well, which helps to flatten it. You have no sense of depth of field.

And, the left arm on the right figure is awkward, and looks like it;s broken, her pose is awkward, as her feet arent under the center of mass, and and her hips are twisted for no apparent reason. This would be a simple pose to have a friend or sibling do for you, to block out simply.

>>3121387
It's a study you dumb fuck. The whole body doesn't need to be there.

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Did a study, could I get a crit?

>>3123130
>Anonymous 09/03/17(Sun)14:23:35 No.3123130 ▶
>>>3121387
>It's a study you dumb fuck. The whole body doesn't need to be there.
It still irritates me, so blow me.

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I've been working on this for quite a while and I'm exhausted, at this point I can't even tell how shit it is

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Fresh attempt, can you guys spot some errors?
I should've probably picked a ref.

>>3113306
It's not a waste if it's what you like or want to do.
I'm actually going the opposite way, been only studying fundies and drawing from reference, now I have to learn to draw anime girls and it's giving me a hard time.

>>3120810
Looks like what you get when you don't study the theory or work systematically and just approach it intuitively.
Squint and you should be able to distinguish front plane from side plane easily, but because of all the little spots and variation, yours loses its read.
Remember - all the minor forms conform to the major form, be it gesture drawing or value rendering.
Not saying it's the perfect example, but pic related was started with a cube, just two planes that were then divided into smaller and smaller ones.

Do you have a reference to compare it to?

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I feel like I'm getting better and better. Critique needed. Here's a sketch of my backyard, digital.

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I've made a Chernobyl Gondola.. I guess i have a lot to learn.

>>3122489
pls never stop, I barely have ever seen rendering this decent in digital.