How does sakimichan make so much fucking money

>>2295303

fuck her right in the pussy

>>2295303
She built up a large fanbase over years, has a style that appeals to non-artists, paints characters that have established fanbases and puts softcore pornographic images of these characters behind a paywall. And she hopped on the patreon thing at just the right time.

>>2295303
People pay an amount of money equal to "so much fucking."

You're welcome.

>>2295303
1. Constantly makes new pieces (doesn't matter if there really isn't much of a difference between them as far as pose or composition goes).

2. All of her paintings are pretty and colorful

3. Tutorials

4. NSFW extras

5. Her "fame" comes with a large number of haters which also promote her by constantly discussing her art or talking about what they hate about it..
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To be successful at something you don't really have to be the best at it, you just have to know how to promote yourself and your art and most of all, be consistent with your workflow.

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>>2295308
she was the perfect jew.

Why is there so few photos of her irl?

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>>2295317
she likes the mystery, it gives her money...fuck she has a very squared jaw haha

>>2295320
>she

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>>2295325
...no...

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Daily reminder

>>2295311
>To be successful at something you don't really have to be the best at it, you just have to know how to promote yourself and your art and most of all, be consistent with your workflow
This.

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>>2295336
S-Shut it down!

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>>2295336
HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DAAAAAAMMMN THIS BITCH AINT PLAYING!

>>2295336
I don't get it. She's doing a contest as a thanks to her patrons who are already supporting her. Obviously if someone were to start donating purely to buy into this contest, it wouldn't be profitable. How is that in any way outrageous of her?

>>2295350
sup sakimichan those Patreon Shekels running too low from that new Lambo?

get really good at anatomy and realistic style drawing, start drawing anime and pop culture stuff. maybe even add focus on big boobies and private parts, there you go, lots of money.

>>2295350
i think the point was "hey, you're pretty much loaded thanks to the exposure provided by this community, even those who don't pay so why not make the contest opened to everyone?" or something like that.

>>2295359
Yeah, but it's a reward for the people who give her money. Why should she make that contest open for everyone? I always find it slightly irritating whenever random plebts assume successful people owe them something. Reminds me of that one SJW indie dev who was attacking Notch on twitter and how Notch should give him money just because he's rich.

>>2295359
because fuck "everyone", her supporters are a priority, it's common fucking sense

>what should I do
>make this a patreon community thing and make sure the prize goes to an artist from this community, giving something back, giving them exposure and encouragement
>or open this to everyone and get buried by entries, a good deal of which would certainly be the same jellies who shit on me every day
>gee, what a difficult position I find myself in

>>2295364
she could of had two contest one for the patreons and one for everyone else. other jews have done similar contest followed by an open contest to avoid the drama shes a retard with bad business and PR logic end point.

>>2295336
>>2295311
>To be successful at something you don't really have to be the best at it, you just have to know how to promote yourself and your art and most of all, be consistent with your workflow.
I hope so, although I don't know how to promote myself D:

>>2295367
are you good enough with colors and form? start fan art and add your shit on the middle sakimitron is a slave to her fan art man she does not enjoy this, its a businesses to her.

>>2295366
>shes a retard with bad business and PR logic end point.
>literally the highest income artist in the world
>biggest following online, maybe in general
Are you retarded, is the butthurt making you dumb?

>>2295364
yes, the guy of the image is just retarded

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>>2295372

>>2295372
you realize shes big because she was simply there right? like, her art is solid but she was simply at the right place on the right time right?

>>2295372
this guy makes more money than 90% of /ic/ your point? http://shiinsart.net/shiin/

>>2295372
>literally the highest income artist in the world
Except not. There are many artists who make far more than her. She is the highest paid artist doing fan art as far as I know though.

>>2295366
How would it even be logistically possible for a single person with a following as big as Sakimichan's to hold an open contest where everyone can submit their art, without any limitations? She'd be flooded by literally thousands of entries.

I think it's pretty clear who here doesn't have any business sense and it's not the person who is making 66.000$ a month.

>>2295379
You realize her income is continual, right?

She didn't get buried in cash by a fluke, her success keeps growing. You can try to make yourself feel better all you want, she clearly understands how to attract people.

>>2295383
Prove it. And we're talking about 2d art, not Hirst's "art"

>>2295383
She is hands down the highest paid commercial artist within the entertainment industry with the exception of those who are businessmen first, artists second, like Bobby Chiu, Feng Zhu etc. Other than that, she makes far more money than even the top tier art directors in this industry.

>>2295389
>implying she cant find a team.
>implying she cant make a deadline
>implying she would not have the time and money.
>implying being open would not her her promote her brand in the end.

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>>2295303
OH SHIIIEET HE POST IT AGAIN MUM GET THE CAMERA!

>>2295396
Yeah, hiring a fucking team of people to hold a contest for a bunch of entitled amateurs sure sounds like a great investment.

Do you ever wonder why rich people are rich and why poor people always have all these great ideas how rich people should do things differently? Look, she is currently making 67.000$ per month. That is probably more than you make in 3 years. don't think she needs your advice on how to expand her brand.

>>2295371
No, I am not that good enough, but selfpromoting is I think my biggest flaw. I wouldn't like to do only fanart I think, anyway.

>>2295419
post some work? *its not like you need to or anything*

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>>2295423
From the stuff that I drew lately is some poses from photos, but I don't think that they look anygood. Plus I'm doing more expressive stuff that /ic/ would call art I think, so better leave it at sketchbook D:

>>2295434
you got a long journey ahead...

>>2295437
Yeah, I know that. I feel comfortable with drawing expressive stuff, but also wanted to draw some people but it's hard as fuck for me D: Guess I need to do a lot of drawings and just focus on portraying what I see, depth and million other things.

>>2295440
Nigga, you can't draw. Like, at all.

Promoting yourself should be the last fucking thing on your mind.

>>2295440
>>2295444
yeah, i was about to echo the trips dude, you're still on the "man wondering the dessert" stage of your art.

>>2295444
I can assure you that with doing realistic/figure/people drawings it is.

>>2295447
There is absolutely no way you're producing anything worthwhile with 0 foundation. You can't draw, you can't paint, you can't do """expressive""" art. Trust me, you're delusional. You can post your "good" works and get ridiculed or you can take it at face value that you're bad and reevaluate yourself.

You're not going anywhere as it is.

>>2295451
I think you are wrong mate. You are right about art that's portraying the reality in a realistic matter. But at the same time you are ridiculing whole art brut/primitivism/emotional stuff that is far away from realistic portrayal, that speaks to my guts/emotions and not eyes. I can respect that your taste is different than mine and that you don't like it. I like it, it's the way how I express, it's the thing that I understand. Plus I know that I am shit at drawing people, but I am trying. I am not selling this to anyone or saying "look, I'm best". Someone asked for me to post my drawings, so I posted them. And trust me my ability to promote myself is even worse than my drawings of people.

>>2295458
>you are ridiculing whole art brut/primitivism/emotional stuff that is far away from realistic portrayal, that speaks to my guts/emotions and not eyes
No, I am saying you completely lack the fundamental knowledge and skills necessary to portray those things.

>>2295462
To portray the body in a realistic way, of course yes.
To portray emotions in a way that I feel, of course not.

>>2295465
Sure, ok. Keep those feelings sharp, buddy.

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Actually I find her quite cute. Totally fuckable. (pic related, it´s her)

I would make her my waifu and draw her away from his hikikomori ways with my cock...

What does one that's not a celebrity or some big name industry person even do with that much money?

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>>2295465
The point of pouring your emotions into a piece of art is to communicate those feelings to the viewer.

Sure, you can do it the hippy-dippy way and just throw paint around on a canvas in, like, these, like, really groovy ways maaaan, like, totally expressing my inner pain broooo.
However doing it in this fashion without the technical skill and knowledge of what forms and color and value draw the eye and evoke emotion, you have a very very small chance of properly and effectively communicating these feelings to your audience.

Essentially you are trying to communicate something like anguish with grunts and screams instead of bothering to learn english and how to speak to people.

Basically, a baby screaming and crying.
Hopefully this puts things in perspective.

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>>2295477
Yes, I agree with you. Of course when doing overemotional stuff it's just big bunch of nothing or black page or something that's decyphrable and you are right that this baby/emotional cry needs to be contained. But I think there are things that you can portray better with more expression (mostly emotions in their purest, rawest form) than reality, and I think some people for example suffered from ptsd are at the same level of ability to portray something that's moving as the pro artist. Maybe even more realistic, cause it's straight outta feel train and "really groovy ways maaaan, like, totally expressing my inner pain broooo" pic related - A mask, painted by a Marine who attends art therapy to relieve post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms, is displayed at an art expo May 3. The expo provided a way to raise awareness about PTSD and the benefits of art therapy.

I think on art theraphy people are making great jobs with portraying emotions, and they don't need to be pro. It's just pouring yourself on a page.

>>2295489
Sorry, but if i had said that the mask was made by a highschool teenage girl, nobody would be any the wiser.

What you're interested in is known as pretentious art.

>But I think there are things that you can portray better with more expression (mostly emotions in their purest, rawest form) than reality,

The fact that there once existed a man with PTSD is not art.

If this man had any technical training in the visual art field, do you think he would still make a shitty mask with magazine cutouts and glue, or a massive beautiful painting that tells a story of war and suffering?

The point of having a foundation based in reality is to hold the hand of the viewer and guide them through your art. Reality is relatable. Without any relatable element, how do you expect people to, well, relate?

>>2295495
also, feeling emotions while painting is NOT the same thing as pouring them out on a page.

To express rage, sure you could angrily splatter red paint on your canvas, but all that is doing is showing the shallowest, weakest representation of rage.

Where is the white hot fury in the subject's eyes? Where is the contemptuous furrowing of the brow? How is the layman supposed to feel the deep-rooted fear and self hatred brought on by this sudden outlash?

You don't need to literally draw an angry guy to express rage, but you need to know what rage looks like before you try to draw it so that other people can understand that you're drawing rage, and not just a tomato or something.

was sakimichan not making more then what she has now? i remember she was

>>2295504
The most I remember was 22k/2 weeks, and she's doing 50% better now

I'm not stalking her patreon like some people, though, so I might have missed it

>>2295510
i don't know.... the first time i went to her patreon it was more and after so long i had to look if she was making more and now i see less. i know she lost people

>>2295517
You're mistaken.
You probably calculated monthly income and remembered that.
Maybe she lost people, but she was never making than 33Kx26, and in the end money>number of supporters

>>2295503
>>2295495
>If this man had any technical training in the visual art field, do you think he would still make a shitty mask with magazine cutouts and glue, or a massive beautiful painting that tells a story of war and suffering?

No, but it wouldn't be as honest as it is. No the fact that he existed isn't a art, but the fact he made it is artform. It may be pretentious art or whatever you may call it but it's art.

I don't think if the red splatter on canvas is shallowest representation of rage, but I wouldn't compare them in the way of "which is the weakest, which is the shallowest". It's just different way of portraying things.

"Where is the white hot fury in the subject's eyes? Where is the contemptuous furrowing of the brow? How is the layman supposed to feel the deep-rooted fear and self hatred brought on by this sudden outlash?" I like what you did here, but I think it would be ubercomplicated to do it with just one picture and not a sequence in any style, but maybe there is a way.

I think we have a very different point of view on art mate, but I am not calling the one that you are talking about that it's overtechnical or something. 4chan specifics I guess. I think I know what you are trying to say - not being to emotional but have the viewer in mind. And what you are trying to say. I am doing a drawing for an evening course about some emotional stuff and I am trying to convey them in a way that's not overdone in any way (not being unclear but also being able to have the emotion and energy of it). Doesn't matter I guess.

>>2295517
Last time I saw her patreon screenshot on /ic/, she was making 40k/month. Now she's making 67k. Her patreon is getting absolutely ridiculous. She's now making more money per month than a well established full-time professional illustrator or concept artist does in year.

>>2295561
She was doing that long ago. She has to be by far the highest paid digital artist of all time. I doubt Feng is even making this much money.

>>2295563

It's completely obvious that she is.

>>2295474
Pay taxes.

>>2295474

Buy your own island and build a mansion on it.

>>2295371

I'd do shit I hated for a few years to be set for life.

Just fucking imagine. She's never going to need to work another day in her life and she's going to have all the money she needs to do what she wants. Sounds like an artist's dream to me.

Eventually maybe she'll ditch the fanart and be able to do all personal projects, never needing to worry about donations, commissions or employment ever again.

If I were in her place I'd do nothing different. "Sellout" or not. "Hack" or not. I doubt any of /ic/, despite a few haughty claims, would behave much differently either.

Why in the fuck is this thread still here? I thought these things were getting nipped in the bud now.

>>2295320
>>2295469

They don't look the same..

>>2295320
Eww it's actually a Chinese! I figured it was a male weaboo.

Wow, this thread is STILL fucking here.

Because there's a certain property to art/artists that I call "vanilla latte"-ness.It's when a work has achieved the perfect blend of professionalism to look like Real Art, while being juuuuust plain enough to appeal to a wide demographic while still being a distinct subgenre.

Vanilla lattes are theoretically more exotic than straight black coffee, yet a vanilla latte is the more generic choice. People who've never tried a non-straight black coffee can order a vanilla latte and say to themselves "That sure was a flavored coffee drink!"

Sakimichan draws the equivalent to vanilla lattes. She has the technical chops to make have a distinct visual style, but that style is completely boring anime pandering. Anime is theoretically more exotic than standard western art, yet it's the more generic choice between the two. Someone who likes anime can look at a Sakimichan drawing and go "I sure looked at some professional anime-esque art!"


tl;dr: polished generica will always be the most popular thing.

>>2295474
invest

>>2296894
In a rad fucking boat