Beginner figure drawing questions: I'm trying to understand construction better, and have been reading Hampton's book on figure drawing. I have some question: 1) How does the gesture drawing work? He emphasizes that this should not be trying to capture a likeness, but rather be an exercise in moving the eye. But then I end up erasing like half of it then when I actually do attempt to draw a likeness. 2) I'm kind of stuck on what to do after I get the basic shapes down, and I start reverting back to just drawing contour lines. Any tips to avoid this? 3) Are those figure drawing resources useful at this stage? Like I said, a lot of the time I just end up getting a framework down and then reverting back to contour drawing.
>>2294160 Try not to erase and instead use lighter lines when drawing the gesture. Then adjust. You seem to have trouble seeing the rib cage and pelvis as simple volumes so I would focus on that too. Hampton has a good approach but don't read the chapters on muscles just yet if you have trouble drawing the simple forms. Vilppu explains further how to do fully rendered drawings starting with a gesture so you could try that too.
>>2294268 I watched a video of Vilppu doing gestures, and I think his style suits me more. Do these look more along the correct lines? I know I should draw a lot more but I want to make sure I'm at least set up to go in the right direction.
Not OP but why is it that you go to the CGMA website and all the student work looks like complete ass? And the recommended texts is vilppu, almost as if they're telling you NOT to dish out 700 gold coins. They usually showcase the best of the best student work and if pic related is the best they've got then something is wrong.
>>2296013 The drawings in OP look horrible though. I mean, Hampton knows his stuff sure, but in that particular image he has really overemphasized the curves to the point of ridiculousness. The woman on the right has a stupidly bent back. Both have their tibias bent to the extreme. The woman on hte left has a poorly shortened arm that looks just stubby and short. The woman on the right is falling over (leaning away from us). All the feet are lazily drawn paddles.
I like some of his stuff, but some of them like this image just look so bad to me. It's like he gets too caught up in the formulas of his construction that he forgets it's supposed to be a real person.
>>2296033 I've been doing art for longer than most people on this board and work professionally. But again, I shouldn't have to "prove" things by posting my art, nor do I need to be better than Hampton. Just look at the image yourself and see that it looks weird.
As for whether they are gestures or not...well that's up for debate because there's a lot of different definitions and approaches to gesture. I would argue though that gesture focuses on action more than other factors, and in those image he has focused on construction more than action so they would not be gestures. You can call it quick sketch or something. Doesn't really matter, the figures look messed up.
Try to get in the pose of the girl on the right and you will see how uncomfortable it will be and how you are falling over. The angle that the pelvis is tilted at is very extreme and not how people normally stand.
>>2295453 I think you're making progress, Just keep practicing. You might be drawing too much contour though. I suggest you try to study the spine as soon as possible. Also learning the basics in photoshop could help you to flip your images and make quick color corrections.
You literally picked the worst image from that very gallery, that's not a particularly good way to make a point. It's pretty much the only gesture drawing shown there, because Analytical Figure Drawing focuses much more on anatomy and construction than on gesture - and it does a pretty good job at that if you're not absolute garbage when starting the course (way too much feedback time wasted on instructors telling rookies that chicken scratching is a bad thing). If you want to learn gesture go watch Vilppu on NMA.
>>2297345 >He also hates seeing lower legs being bent backwards Hampton-/Proko-style, so you'd probably like him. I respect him more and more man. His posts on muddy colors are great and the series in values in his youtube channel are gold
Yes, it's not perfect, it is student work after all.
But guess what - you're not being taught by other students, but by experienced instructors who know their shit.
The image I posted was merely to illustrate what the main focus of Analytical Figure Drawing was, after anon claimed that some sloppy gesture was "the best they had to offer", which is, as you surely can see, complete bullshit.
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