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Alternative Art/Stylization General

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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Previous Thread: >>2233653

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

>Fresh off the boat? Read the fucking sticky!
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Animu Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Daily reminder that Artists can now make up to 20k biweekly"
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neck hurts, going to take a break
i will fix the boot when I get to it, btw
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>>2240272
oh, mu animu is opening, feeling more ashamed of using normal paper now
>daily reminder:
to edit pics and write the thread tittle on them!

>>2240301
I'ts clear you're the guy who did that skeleton with ramen, eficient forms and quality line art, going good, you should try dynamic poses and foreshortening
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Continued this sketch, also thanks for all your help with the other piece, I'm honestly ashamed for all the details I overlooked.
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>>2240354
When was the last time you actually made any progress, Firez?
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>>2240354
Do you try, Firez?
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>>2239730
I don't actually feel uninspired. Just feel really tired and terrible when i start to draw almost immediately, but I feel very bad if I'm not drawing either.

it's a viscous cycle
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>>2240354
you'r values on the face are symbolic and not related to the forms and light, use reference to support your brain, even if it's not related with your pose, use it to understand values of faces, even if it's darker on the nose bridge, it's not that way, to support with references is the standard and eificient way to work, using references does not mean to copy things
your hair reads really well, eyes lack some forms on skin around them
nose holes is what makes noses pretty, dont avoid those
shadow under bottom lip is important
from cheecks to mouth line to chin everything in the face is going convex to deeper, so it takes less light, with front happens but with harder edges, due to hair casting shadow
mind putting your characters doing something more than "standing" "cold staring somewhere in the infinite" or "posing like an instagram idiot chick", you will enjoy it more
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>>2240357
>>2240358
Probably when he realized he can post any old shit on here and get all the attention in the world from morons like you as long as he has fire in his name block.
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>>2240357
>>2240358
when was the last time you had a hug?
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>>2240301

>>2240350
>I'ts clear you're the guy who did that skeleton with ramen
>ramen

As the guy that said that it didn't look like sphaghetti I lol'd.
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>>2240359
>it's a viscous cycle
gross
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>>2240354
pretty bad honestly, whats up rez?
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>>2240375
hah, ew
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>>2240354
Firez, have you ever drawn someone with an actual facial expression? I wanna see if you can.
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>>2240272
How do you guys go from a sketch to a finished image? I made a gif from one of my recent drawings to expain to someone else, but I'm always interested in learning new stuff.
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>>2240493
is that shaggy?
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>>2240493
How is the red pencil incorporated into your drawing workflow, just out of curiosity?
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>>2240496
I just draw a simple sketch first. I obviously draw and redraw and the finished sketch is usually a lot messier than that, but I tried to keep it simpler so it was easier to ink straight away.
I simply used red so it would be easier to trace with black.

>>2240495
It's just a random animuh character (I wouldn't even call it an OC), I was testing Clip Studio Paint.
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>>2240493
where does that that BG at the end come from? i think i've seen yoshikazu use similar ones and i've been wondering wether those are built in CSP materials. couldn't find them so far though.

as for process, mines pretty much the same up to the inking
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How does one become more loose when drawing?
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>>2240525
imo you definitely don't need to become more loose. you're already plenty that. you should rather focus on the opposite: being clean and tight.
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>>2240521
I added a sky blue gradient, and above that I used a CSP tone material (volcanic explosion, I think--I'm not at the computer right now to check).
Since that material came in black dots, I rasterized it and used level adjustements to make it white.
After that I just used one of the focus lines tools and set the lines to white.

I du
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>>2240532
--nno, it's kinda hard to explain, it was more of a spur of the moment thing. You just experiment, throw things around and find something that sort of looks okay.

(No idea how I sent my reply halfway done, though, I didn't even have to fill a captcha)
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> few hours left
Soon.
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>People scream i draw cut and paste styles
>Yet people always say they know if its mine or not from the style

I dont know what to fucking think anymore
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>>2240546
Wouldn't this just mean it's noticeably derivative, in your personal way? It isn't a massive contradiction.
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>>2240350

I plan on finishing these last three commissions and then focusing hard on dynamic gesture drawing and all that. It's definitely the next step. That and color.

>>2240373

You were right!! Haha good call
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>>2240549
Brother/Sister i have no idea. I have only two sides: Those who VEHEMONTLY hate my stuff and others that pay me ludicrous amounts of money to draw for them. If i suck, then people wouldnt commission me. If i dont suck, then why do people scream that i do? Its a constant contradiction.
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>>2240550
:'/ I don't have a clue about how to get comisions like those :(
guess I have to make more quantity to gain views
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>>2240528
okay sure, so how do you become more tight? Any videos or written guides on the subject, or is it just experience?
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>>2240569
i think it has something to do with "purpose". yours feel too "random".
basically, loose doesn't mean random. the lines need to have more purpose, think of gesture, aesthetic shapes etc.
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>>2240544

Got a tumblr?
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hot to seem loose lines and be gud?

having been gud for years
for real
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>>2240367
Thanks, I know about face planes I just wanted to keep things simple in that area because I have a tendency of rendering too much which sometimes doesn't suit my stylized stuff that well. I will also try to come up with other expressions.

>>2240411
>pretty bad honestly

>>2240481
Yes but everything is either sad or neutral and also quite bad.
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>>2240712
she's still looking to the infinite as always ahha, but that's better, you're so inconsistent somehow
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i,m
still here
squid
i am occupied with something
thanks for the 25
i love u
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>>2240493
The sketch was the best part. Everything else is pretty bad. I think it's because the sketch was more BD and everything else is western animu, which is shit.
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getting back to watercolors.
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base lines complete

time to detail and blacken in
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>>2240864
wish i was hear earlier, friend, so i coulda told you to add some perspective to the feet before you inked everything :c
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>>2240869

toss me a redline, i'll fix it if it needs fixing
I already see some issues i'll need to touch up anyway
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>>2240562
easy, you have a style that's rendered with enough skill to have those who like it be willing to shell out money, and those who don't to be super angry that people will shell out money for it cause crabs in a barrel
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>>2240712
are you trying to post that old piece to prove or redeem yourself?

being able to paint and draw a pretty face is not an indicator of skill. and it is suspicious, almost as if you were heavily inspired by another piece (as in ripped off/referenced), considering that the overall, average quality of your work is much much less than this singular piece.
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>>2240889

i hate to add to the drama, but yeah

this
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>>2240712
The bottom plane of the nose is awfully crooked, and the lips are jutted forward as if she has an underbite.

This isn't as good as you think it is, buster.
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>>2240889
>>2240892
>>2241075

Do you sad sods even read?

He was asked if he has ever made something with an expression, he posted an example, he never claimed it was good quite the contrary

....Fuck you're truly pathetic
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>>2241093
hi firez, u mad? xD
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>>2241093
You know we can tell, right?
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>>2241093
>that picture
>an expression

I see another typical expressionless face, with a small tint of despair.
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>>2240369
>>2241075

Stop defending the cunt you're just garnering more responses and shitting up the thread exponentially holy fuck
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>>2240712

Like do you get off to the thought of fucking a girl while she's limp and has a 1000 yard stare, like holy shit bro.

Your stuff isn't poignant, serene or thoughtful it's creepy
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>>2241075

Re-read my previous comment I never claimed it was good. Otherwise thanks for the critique.

>>2241093
Couldn't have said it better, thanks.
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>>2241126
>casually pretending not to samefag
You do this often enough that it's obvious.
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>>2241130
>I don't like you! Someone that I don't like is being defended, must be same fag!

Stay mad. Stay Jelly. Stay salty. Stay bitter.
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>>2240353
S T I C K Y
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C
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>>2241130
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>>2240353
> that camera angle
> that rotation
> that resolution
> that signature

'no'
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>>2240864
Feet are looking pretty fucked. You never seem to push perspective in your work from what I've seen from you, how come?
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>>2240550
>le kek food
oh kek, i remember it was a bowl, wasn't it? pasta is served on flat dishes
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>>2240544
Done with this one as well.
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>>2240864
feet are not even the same size.
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>>2241579
nice reminds me of this.
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>>2241444
>>2241454
>>2241619

Yeah super tempted to scrap this and start over with more dynamic posing and intensity
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>>2241622
fuck man, this has been posted on 3 or 4 threads already, it's shit, even if it's from jia, it's still shit.
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>>2241685
Its the same fag in all of them. He probably thinks he's making a point about something, somehow.
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>>2241622
why did you butcher this?
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>>2241718
becasue im trying to get banned
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I kind of shit the bed on the face here which is definitely something I need to work on, but any other feedback would be appreciated!
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>>2241748
a lot 2d-ish, but it's pretty cool right now, the main problem I see is feet shapes, try to make that with 3 dimensions, atm it seems you inverted right on the left, and that's not natural position for feet

shoulders are also weird, it's unbeilable to be clothing with that pointy shape, try a different solution for that
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>>2241750

I see what you're saying as far as the feet, that's something I can fix. I didn't notice the shoulder thing right away, but I think if I lifted her left shoulder a bit and fixed the angle then that would help? Thanks!
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>>2241736
Claim that you're a mod and/or post things irrelevant to /ic/

pls dont leave anon
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>>2241748
Not exactly good critique on my end, but this kinda reminds me of those animated insurance commercials you'd see a lot a few years ago, to the point to where I'd like to see it in motion.
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>>2241754
even only different material would work
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>>2241770
So you're saying perhaps round or otherwise soften the corners as a possible solution?
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did a terrible construction sketche and changin everything while inking, at least it's gonna be funny
looking for crits on this shark-mermaid
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Can someone politely, trash talk my stuff.
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>>2241865
Yo girls body is janky.
Her torso is too big/her lower body is so small.
The legs are messed up in the sense the thighs sop less than halfway down and then the calves start and even then they are really skinny.
and the feet aren't positioned right.
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>>2241865
Motorcycle linework is excellent, but nothing else about it is.. However, the back wheel is not in plane with the front wheel. The entire motorcycle appears to need several box references for structure. The radiator is obviously crooked. Posts in the background are not cylindrical and each of them is cut at an angle. The shadows are cut straight which conflicts with their roundedness.

For the figure, the breasts are too low. The goggles are asymmetrical. One of the feet curves downwards and the other curves outwards and overall there isn't a good sense of stability there. Face is decent but the ballcap is oversized and doesn't fit the skull.
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>>2241865
the torso anatomy looks kind of weird and her lower legs are very long compared to her upper legs.
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>>2241865
you need about 5 books about perspective tenderly jammed in your anus
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>>2240712
honestly you'd get a lot more approval if you didn't have that annoying personality of reposting your stuff so many times.
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>>2240712
"I will also try to come up with other expressions."
-Firez, Oct 4 2015.

You can do it, faggot.
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>>2241974
Shhh, the dickriders will hear you.
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>>2241869
>>2241870
>>2241876
>>2241887
thanks guys.
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fucking anatomy, how does it work...

any feedback is welcome, as always
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w/e
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>>2242078
you should step out of your confort zone
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>>2242110
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>>2242128
Take this MSPaint scribble as a reaction image for what you just did.
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>>2242128
kek, dat's funny
I know I constructed the gesture so fucking bad as I didn't took enought focus and time on the sketch part, but w/e
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>>2242110
Where do you buy white ink from? Also is that paper toned or what
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>>2242198
Well if it wasn't toned his white ink wouldn't show up...
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Finally attempting to finish something other than studies. Hands are hard.
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I suppose the yellow unit would suit this sketch better than the blue one
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>>2242122
I know, but what exactly should i do?
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>>2242451
just put you a schedule where you're not doing cute furrys from imagination, you don't know what to do? then take a list from anything else and just do it, even if you don't like it that much, find fun and explore different things
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>>2242452
What do you think would help me out to git gud?
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I need some feedback on this before I continue it. Thoughts?
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>>2242498
>feedback
*fundies
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>>2242498
you should start over with this.
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>>2242393
not bad so far. keep going
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>>2242498
right tit (it's left) is smaller than the left one (it's right)
the head, arms, rigbcage, shoulders (basically whole uper torso aside for the tits needs work), and feet are too small compared to the pelvis and legs
I suggest proko for perspective drawings, and loomis for human figure drawing. Great idea and nice lines though.
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>>2241865
Feet are completely fucked, the front wheel of a motorcycle does not rest like that (use a reference of a motorcycle actually being set like you want to in your pic).

Other than these mistakes in the details, your planes are illogical. That is the very basic of your drawing, so it's normal stuff comes out in random perspectives at times.

I think you should kick back a little with the details for now, and focus a lot on setting up a coherent perspective, maybe use some basic shapes, like a city, or sets of stairs being inclined in different angles/directions, or ramps in general.

If you don't get this first step right, everything that follows will be wrong.
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>>2242511
I like it, sketches or studies for something else.
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>>2242537
thank you, like your expressive drawing
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quick one
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Sup can I feedback before I continue thx bye
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>>2242808
figure is decent although the wrists are a tad thin.

Pose is completely unsuited to firing anything ever and the blunderbuss is missing a receiver, or trigger, or really anything that would help it fire anything at all.

Also, the stock isn't being used, although this is a perfectly valid stylistic choice.

tl;dr watch a couple videos of people shooting shit on youtube
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>>2242809
Yeah, I came in knowing that this isnt the most realistic pose, but I thought the pose might look neat so something something rule of cool something.
as for the gun parts and the wrists- will add.
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>>2242824
Rule of cool lies somewhere between nonsensical and realistic. This almost looks silly. Guns aren't feather dusters.
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>>2242833
I dont think that it will bother most non /k/ people (would like more opinions on that).

still, do you think making the gun's stock super long and thus making her use it help? I mean its not a realisitc weapon as is.

its just that i like this pose is all, and i dont want to make the gun into a shitty sword or something.
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>>2242866

Make it an oversized pistol or something without a stock.
I'm not even the guy you're replying yo and I think its weird. In this day an age of shitty FPS games most people would call you out on it.
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>>2242871
>>2242833
There you go, I do still think the rifle version is cooler.
Anything else that needs improving?
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>>2242954
The head looks flat compared to the rest of the body. I'd give it a little tilt or something because right now it lacks the depth the rest of the body is showing.
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>>2242393
It looked like a nendoroid from the thumb. I like it.
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just some light-hearted sketch
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>>2242954
Going off what
>>2242977

said, try putting your heads in a cube to give it a more dynamic pose.
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>>2243145
Reminds me of art from the 40's in children books (this is not an insult, it's a charming style)
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>>2242508
>>2243141
Thank you, Rei is vaguely referenced from a bootleg figure, I changed mostly some colours/dress design, eyes, I'm making stuff up with everything else. I'm also working at a 400 ppi and keeping the brushes very opaque.
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>>2241748
>>2241748
Reminds me of Hercules.
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>>2243354
i'm diggin that, be carefull with edges, try that some (not all) of those outlines read better

my inktober day 7 plant girl turned out being a 4chan mascot kek
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>>2242954
Construct the hand around the gun not vice-versa. It looks like she is holding a pidtol made of play-dooh
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>>2240272
What is a great book to learn about an alternative style?
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>>2242740
She looks like such a dipshit, I like. The color scheme is a bit muddy but I LOVE the linework and overall character design
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>>2243586
you don¡t simply learn style, you just take things you like, round yourself with references to inspire you how to solve the drawing rather than copying the gesture, face, expresion, colors or w/e

style is consequence of your understandings/flaws and influences, you don't really need to read a book, everyone have different tastes so just use yours
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>>2243591
Makes sense. Currently learning strictly the fundamentals (a lot of figure drawing, learning value, perspective, etc) and was just wondering when the subject of "style" comes in.

But I do see what you mean. When I quickly draw in an eye during gesture drawings, I tend to put "points" at each end of the eye, kinda giving it a semi triangle shape. I've gotten feedback on it that it looks fine, but it is something I feel works.
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>>2243591
what it i like everything from one particular style?
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>>2243593
You probably know other things, which you'll like too even about things not related with drawing, y not mix. What if you don't ask pointless questions.
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>>2241748

Very Samurai Jack-esque
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>>2243611
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>>2243621
tyvm m8 I was actually having a lot of difficulty getting the hair:head ratio right
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>>2243622
>getting the hair:head ratio right
>muh mathematical sacred geometric Fibonacci golden ratios!

All you gotta to is feel it.
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>>2243622
Why haven't you read Loomis, asshole
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>>2243621
is that you lefty? stop giving advice.
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>>2242537
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>>2243611
It looks like your average anime head shape with the eyes extremely low and small relative to how they usually caricature girls.
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>>2244022
he does not construct any face planes,no hair line , eyebrows line, cheechs to nose line, eyes to nose line,or head, that's it
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>>2242511
I love bath monkeys. I daresay they are my favorite monkey.
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>>2243549
where do you post your work?
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Anything really wrong with this before I paint it? I'm going to redraw it on watercolor paper.
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4chan pls let me upload this
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Did some quick values over my inktober drawing from today. :)
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i-i don't know
her hand doesn't seem right
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>>2244499
It's twisted too far backwards. Try to do the same position with your hand.
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>>2244503
oh ok
any other glaring issues?
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>>2244504
Other than that I really like it. Keep up the good work.
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>>2244029
>he does not construct any face planes,no hair line , eyebrows line, cheechs to nose line, eyes to nose line,or head, that's it

How can you tell?
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How do yall go around finding artists with a certain 'style'?
I love this rounder animeish style but other than grinding through thousands of different drawings in hopes of finding an artist with a similar style I can't think of a way of pin pointing styles.
Is there a way I'm missing or is brute forcing the only way of doing it?
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>>2244325
started a month ago to do on my facebook account for art, search for "Alberto Moldes" to find it

Day 8, had to do a octomaid so I did a splashtoon character, their designs are fucking awsome
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>>2244385
those color contrasts +efective and not abusive textures at some points + rich and different shapes make it awsome, gj
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>>2244499
Is that supposed to be nudist beach Samus that get captured bu the living clothes of KlK?
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>>2244282
Make the hands less 'awkward' (yeah, that's the word) and it'll be perfect
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>>2244655
Thanks, hun
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>>2244717
the drawing is bad and naive as it lacks perspective, forms, and it's super flat, but it's still effective as picture for example for children's books or graphic design
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>>2244726
Yeah, I realized that about halfway through. It always happens when I attempt to make a background from imagination.

Better luck next time, eh?
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>>2243182
>>2243578
Whoops, didnt check on /ic/, sorry!
still, some sort of update. trying ideas for backgrounds.
What do you think about things?
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>>2244757
The gun seems really short for something that needs a stock.
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>>2244757
you're going too slow with that, hurry up
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>>2244757
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>>2244781
Yep, I screwed up. Im just toying around now to see what works. If any of you got anything inetersting in mind to do with it please share>>2244780
Whatcha mean by that?
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>>2244035
I liked them up until I learned more about them, turns out they're assholes.
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>>2242485
try doing landscapes.
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suffering
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>>2244865
Only thing I'm qualified to say is that the closer jawlines of your two bottom people are asymmetrical and slightly lower.

Take this mspaint example of what I think you're doing (black) and what you should adjust to slightly (red)
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>>2244869
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>>2244869
>>2244865
Literally the second thing you learn in Loomis
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Could I possibly get a redline or tips, please? I'm trying to foreshorten and drawing skates that actually look decent.
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>>2245082
youre not ready for something this ambitious, you need to learn to draw shapes in a 3d space
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>>2244865
i bet you are using refs for all of them! cheater ( >>2244709 )
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>>2245134
Not all, but idgaf, at least im drawing after big hiatus.
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So I've just started on Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and I was wondering how important it is to have a black cardboard viewfinder vs white or something as I don't have any black cardboard.
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>>2245082
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>2245344
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>>2245370
>step 5, draw a raymoo

I was briefly reminded of the "draw the rest of the fucking owl" picture
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trying something less human for a change.
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>>2244865
nice kitty!
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Thanks, I will try to decide on the Eva material to fix the edges.

Nice sketch btw

Tried to do a character that is not looking at the infinite, emphasis on "tried".
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>>2245437
Have you tried making a person who looks into the camera for once

really it's not that hard just like here take this mspaint edit because i'm not actually good
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>>2245440
Thanks, I tend to overlook the highlight effect on this.

Pic related gaze is more focused or so I hope. Btw I gave up on the reflection. I think I should finish the NMA perspective course
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>>2245443
fix the jaw fuck off m8 how can you be so good yet so bad?
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>>2245443
Firez, your studies are good. Why aren't you applying what you learn from them to your drawings?
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>>2245460
Spends more time mimicking the source image than actually taking away knowledge from them.

>>2245443
You really need to make sure you have a solid sketch before jumping into rendering, man. Face is too big for that body, and the arm is way too short.
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>>2245449
>>2245460
>>2245463
The old contour layer contained portions of the body and face too.

That's part of the reason why some areas look wrong..

As for the other stuff, what can I say? I'm trying, I'm really trying.

Thanks for your help and patience.
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>>2245443
You've already posted four drawings in this thread? Is this going to be a new habit? When anyone gives you critique you just post a previous drawing and say "But it looks good in this other one"??
Don't be like that, stop thinking about your drawings when you're finished with them and move on. Focus on what you're currently working on. Do the art grind and quit jerking off on /ic/
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>>2245474

Anon, I was asked a question so I replied with an image that seemed relevant.

Also as far as I know this forum is for critique that is why I post my shitty stuff so the next one is less shitty.
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>>2245443
I tried
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>>2245443
firez, I overpainted and fixed that face some time ago, you didn't applied any feedback, nose and mouth position are still wrong, imagine vertical grid over her face, from eyes to jaw, your nose location is next to one eye and far from the other, happens the same with the nose, her mouth-nose-jaw are way too forward, the overall body didn't turned out bad, but your light and coloring did, you have that window but your light source is not related with the scene, your light source with that bg was so clear to do and you failed hard trying to solve it
your grays are still visible, play with color temperature and push saturation on midtones to make the render better
black thick outlines are awful, you can keep outlines, but moderate their thickness, interior and exterior curvatures and even darkness, keep that outlines on the background, otherwise you have a common mistake which is different styles (due to edges) on the same painting, even inside the outlines, as you don't use htat kind of lines on the parts that pop out a bit more, like the arm or skirt bottom to help read what is over what
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>>2245515
tried to what? Give her a giant ugly nose?
Chin is better I gues
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>>2245532
The whole thing looks miles better, nose aside.
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>>2245443
>>2245515
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>>2245540
eyes look uneven
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looking way better dude, this was definitely constructed better than your initial take.
i'm liking this color palate a bit more as well
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>>2245523
Not him, but id love to see tge said grid, since i cant figure out how wrong it is.
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>>2245552
Your mom looks uneven
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just a study for inktober
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>>2245604
>a study
Of what?
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>>2245610
Frame from Shinjeki no Bahamut (most beautiful animation from this year for sure), the character is called Amira.
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>>2245614
Since when does drawing a random character count as a study? A study is something you draw to improve at something, I.e. Vaue study is a pic with a wide range of values drawn focusing on them, fold study focuses on folds, anatomy study on anatomy etc.
You just drew a picture. Nothing wrong with that, it's just not a study.
>tl;dr: Semantics
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>>2245625
Well, maybe it's more a practice than a study.
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>>2245519
Nice! Slick,simple and has personality.
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>>2245604

Funny looking Anatomy brother
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>>2244327
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>>2245657
thanks
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>>2241579
>>2240544
nice man - i've been waiting for you to finish these
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Thanks for all the help guys and sorry for being so stubborn, I will give it another try.

I'm did this sketch to give it a rest and try to see my fuck ups more clearlky.
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trying my luck here 2, need feedback to fix everythin, it's the sketch for today's inktober, so please I need feedback soon kek love you thx :D
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was here a while back looking for feedback regarding a cat character i was commissioned for a convention in my area. I've been looking many placed for skilled artists in my area, but only two have really responded. I feel that my design will be the final one, and that sucks because Im not that good and feel someone else deserves the spotlight here.
I gave the sketch i made to the con chair and he liked it, basically giving no other feedback aside from 'i like it, can you make it transparent, etc etc.'
how can I iomprove this? I need to make a few more poses, so ill take what feedback I get for those. This is also not entirely finished, but you guys get the idea. (hat probably not staying in final design.)
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>>2246548
Your face is flat.

Like you took a sticker and placed it on top of a wooden mannequin and called it a day. You also didn't place the sticker very well and stretched it in places.

The rest of the body looks okay, but really fix that construction there.
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>>2246541
You might wanna take a look at some perspective stuff too.
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>>2246781
I like this
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>>2246541
check the placement of her mouth and horns. check the placement of her head on the neck. look at her left ear and think about how forms occlude. if she were to pull her hair back how would it look? where would the ears connect and how much of her left ear would we really see? and why did you draw the hemline like that?
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I've been trying to draw cute anime girls but the face looks kind of weird. Any thoughts?
And am I just imagining it or is her right boob bigger than the left one?
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>>2246913

The rest of the drawing is quite nice. You have a pleasing rythm in your lines and nice weight to the tits and hair around the ribbons. The combination of her droopy eyes and open mouth make her look insecure and awkward and not in a cute way. I want to bully her and grope her luscious teen tits as I flush her head in the school's toilet
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>>2246553
Try using more fur to connect the body and head instead of a sharply defined neckline; you could possibly throw in a stylized dewlap, even though it's not typically a feline trait. Not saying it will definitely be an improvement but it would be fun to see where it goes.
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Fuck my shit up.
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>>2246553
I can't see whether or not it has eyes if I turn my brighness down.

Something you may want to fix, possibly by lightening the fur where light strikes it.

A similar problem occurs for the outlines of the front legs.
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I hope the foreshortening doesn't fuck the overall art
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>>2246984
I'm an unskilled amateur, but I'm digging this. Got a blog fam?
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>>2246984
why the long face anon?
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>>2246945
>brothers

id rather not know how thats possible
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>>2247030
Adoption/Kidnap-doption
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More Tatsu.


>>2246984
Really liked the sketch, but not really digging the white outline and overall coloring of this version frankly.
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>>2244355
erase it all and then burn the paper
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>>2247062
is it only for me or does that perspective look fucked, it doesnt look like her butt attaches to her back
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I'm more than certain that there are problems with anatomy but it's too late to fix those. I'm more concerned with this cruddy background I'm trying to do

send help
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Toned version of my inktober drawing from yesterday.
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>>2246839
>>2246863
Better?
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>>2247062
vary the size and shape of water droplets

have sheets, large drips, small clingy bits, etc
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>>2247069
low level artist but youre making it a gif for no reason... just concentrate on the actual drawing!
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>>2246781 you shrunk the eye in 3/4 view instead of compressing it.
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>>2246945
too late, the game already did that ;-;
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Ended up working on another one, wip.
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>>2247225
you draw very strange tits.

But I like your style.
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>>2247098
the background looks pretty good to me, but Im just a beginner so I dont think Id be able to notice if there was anything wrong
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>>2247109
firez, why do all your characters look like they're about to cry? it makes me cry too ;-;
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>>2247109
better... everything looks fine except for the legs. and arms, which appear very 2 dimensional and formless.

fundamentals....
how often do you study anatomy? gesture?
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Im not quite sure what to do for background yet
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>>2247259
She lost her left arm while jogging around (In other words: I just realized how stupid that pose is).

Also being a depressed fuck doesn't help :/

>>2247374
Thanks, I probably should have left some construction lines on the legs and arm, because I did construct those, the shoes... I have nothing regarding that, I definitely should have been more careful with them.

I'm ashamed to admit that I do study anatomy and gesture, I do at least one Croquis Café video and some pages from the Michael Hampton's book every day. For what is worth I'm also studying perspective through the Olson's NMA course.

Idk I'm really frustrated but I love creating stuff I wish I realized this way earlier in life when I still had time and probably a chance...sigh
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Gonna call this done.
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>>2247387
please spend like a week doing studies of facial expressions
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>>2247387
i think you need to loosen up a bit, to be honest.

i wish you luck firez, please don't look back and wish for alternatives, you can only do your best now.
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>>2240826
The pigments you are using do not seem very good quality. You might want to upgrade. The watercolor thread has links to two artists grade sets for $20
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>>2246984
Is this show super ecchi? I haven't seen an ecchi tag for it on the sites i have visited
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>>2247429
yes
it has a lot of hugging
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>>2247391
It's really really nice I love the colors of the wall and door
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>>2247225
Those are some pretty weird looking tits
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>>2240353
Try to study hands.
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>>2247429
Yep, but onlywith two characters, mostly that one I drew do all fanservice, rest of the show is pretty decent, good 3d animation which is rare

>>2247391
It wen't pretty, you should learn to use filters with gradients to make subtle color contrast following forms, ambient lights and pusihing different planes ahead

I just saw that the bottom of the picture is more magenta and the top is more blue/cyan, pushing that locally would help you

be careful with highilhts, that torchs aren't making any light on the wall behind them, fire is just creating an aura effect
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>>2247109
yes, it's better, be carefull with knees and elbows, they might be noticeable but not spiky,
always look for overlaping "errors", for example at the bottom of the breast, that outline melting to the hand at the same thickness make it seem that she has a weird anatomy, even if your construction is not incorrect that lineart makes a different ilusion

make them having fun and you'll have fun, annoy them and you'll have fun 2, make them doing something and they will be more interesting and don't forget to draw both arms kek
you constructed shoes and face pretty well
>>2247382
nice lineart, but that values are ugly as fuck, do you hate your and our brains?
why use blank background? you can't design values that way
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>>2246942
Thanks ill definately experiment with it.
>>2246948
And yeah, i printed it and it came out a little better, however i will need to brighten up some areas.
Thanks for the feedback!
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>>2247225
Ribs attach to the sternum, there's no way that the breast should form a tangent with the ribcage.
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>>2247506
This is good advice but I feel like that drawing is more than believable enough, I dont think anyone would notice
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>>2247109
see attached
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>>2247510

No it's not enough unless your goal is to be mediocre. It's a blatant anatomical error and you're defending it you piece of shit
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>>2247513
Not OP but thank you for this. I have a drawing fetish for seeing figures actually planted on the floor in good perspective...
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>>2247513
kudos/10
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thad "adding moe" part made my day
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eh i guess i'll dump this here. I tried to color my ink >>2247545, but I ruined it... ugh

I was too lazy to plan the colors digitally, but at least I finally drew a background...
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>>2247552
you didn't ruined it, it's just that it's so saturated right now, if you venture to paint the background do it subtle, don't make it to compete with foreground
is that original or you studied it? end it, it has interest
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>>2247433

Thanks!

>>2247479
>It wen't pretty, you should learn to use filters with gradients to make subtle color contrast following forms, ambient lights and pusihing different planes ahead
>pushing that locally would help you

I'm not sure if I get what you're saying, could you elaborate more on the subject cuz it looks like it's a great tip but I'm not visualizing your ideas. Any resource you can recommend?

>be careful with highilhts, that torchs aren't making any light on the wall behind them, fire is just creating an aura effect

Nice catch, I'll probably spend some more time with this piece and see if I can figure some details a little better, as I was being kinda sloppy by the end(needed to sleep)

Thanks!
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>>2247552 It still looks good. I like the blue and orange
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>>2246781
i think i fucked it up but oh well.
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Need help with colors
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>>2247552
looks great
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>>2247609
fix your values first imo
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I'm pretty confident the design is cool, but the drawing is shit :(

inktober's sketch with "true monster" as motive, just tell me the worse mistakes to fix please! :D
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>>2247619
They are the same. I'm just messing around with the colors to see what I can get. I stopped before going any further cuz I just wanna ask around.
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>>2246913
Eyes and nose should go a little lower on the face. Mouth and eyes are very well defined, but with the nose being almost not defined at all, the contrast removes all her character, that's why she looks dumb instead of cute. Define more the wings of the nostrils and/or the tip of the nose to give her some willpower.

Her tuts are perfect and the drawing is very good.
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Yo

Whatcha all think about the new stuff

And is the character fits the environment and does it look interesting
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>>2247680
Tried to make the pose look more natural.
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>>2247684
Well, I wanted her arm straight so it will look like she is ready to fire, and the rest of the body look pretty much the same. from your redlining it looks like you think her other arm should be longer, is that the case?
And I have already posted the figure before in this thread, I would love to get some opinions on the background and the figure in it.
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>>2247686
"like she's really to fire" That's not how expirience people wield their weapons, recoil would fuck up her soulder and elbow, you can't handle the impact with straight arm, you can't aim a shot that way, and she's too inclined ahead while her right leg is not visible doing the step
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>>2247688
Yeah, watched a video on the thing, will make elbow less tense.
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>>2247705
I'm usually not into anime looking stuff but that's pretty cool.
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>>2247225
Not sure if I'll add shading to it.
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I tried fixing the face and started colouring the pic. Does the face look less dumb now?
Not too sure about the colours.
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>>2247728
WTF

>>2247733
those hands blew my mind
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>>2247686
I thought she was cleaning the glass and that is why I made it like that I saw the gun now, I think you should make the butt a little bit smaller too.
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>>2247733
Give her a nose big enough for a decent human face, it looks too small and
>>2247736
He is right fix those hands by sketching them out first and making them less manly and strong.
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>>2247728
>>2247736
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>>2247743
This is cute. Blog?
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>>2247743
hands/feets need work
also i'm gonna regret asking this, but... why the thing, why bulge there, what is going on, i'd understand if it was shaped like a dick an balls but that's just like, a straight up balloon on the crotch there, what is going on
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>>2247736
>>2247741
Are they just too big, or should I redo them completely?
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>>2247745
TheGoldenSmurf on either Pixiv or Twitter.
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>>2247749
Scrotal inflation balls are my favorite kind of balls, anon. They look way better than wrinkly raisin testicles.
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>>2240544
soon what, i mean i dig it already
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>>2247752
srsly???

they're turds
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This was my first attempt at a digital painting. And I think ive learn something. And thats that I try to bite off more than I can chew, first it was a comic, now this. So Im going to draw some not as complex 1girl ecchi next, and then work up from there. Im kind of happy, I get to draw porn, and I think this will actually put me on the path to gitting gud and develop as an artist. I thought after I learned the process of drawing a figure, I could do anything, but that dunning kruger effect, /ic/. Any guide to making successful ecchi? Like studying poses and clothing.

Any critiques or advice for me though? Is it bad that I erase my construction lines in the sketch layer? Please dont redirect me to the beginner thread (been here for a year) I dont think I should try to finish it anymore, it would be polishing a turd. And I just feel depress trying to work on it any further.

Bonus points, if you actually know whats going on.
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>>2247758
Unrelated to the picture (which was already done), the "soon" was for the first episode of OnePunch Man beginning. The post is one week old and the second episode just came out so you're a bit late tho.
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>>2247755
but there's no dick?
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>>2241622
looks like garena to me
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>>2247619
>>2247609
worked on it
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>>2247789
That is the exact opposite of what that shield should look like. All other values say that the light source is behind the figure to the right, but the shield is all wrong. It looked better in the original picture, all it needed was some bounce light.
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I tried redrawing the hands. Do they look better now?
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>>2247789
Pillow shading on that ribbon
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>>2247556
>original or you studied it?
Trying to do 31 days of original drawings for inktober

>>2247610
>>2247606
Thanks
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>>2247803
That's not pillow shading. It's inaccurate, but not pillow shading.
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what tools were used to color this, and how can I imitate it digitally?
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>>2247801
I hadn't worked on the shield as much sorry. They shield and the sword are supposed to shine in the middle though
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Colors didn't go well, too tired to clean bodyparts
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>>2247824 It still turned out good. Much clearer with colour
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>>2247812
copics
you start with the lightest shade and then work your way up, going back over edges of darker color with the lighter marker to blend. it's tricky and a pain in the butt (also expensive) but once you figure it out it's relatively quick

there are many programs that try to get a copic/general art marker feel, try out autodesk's sketchbook (there's a free copic edition with a limited palette where as the full regular edition has the full copic sketch range as well as the standard unlimited palette), manga/clip studio has a decent default marker brush (the frendan brush pack has some neat marker brushes as well) and finally, SAI has a notoriously unemulatable marker brush that's worth checkin out as well
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>>2247762
if youre a bad artist, one character at a time and try harder please.
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>>2247845

Thank you for that elaborate and well thought out answer. It means a lot, thanks for your time and help.
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Editing the looks of the figure so it will be more in perspective with the environment.
Will probably change the hand too.
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>>2247861
Pic is huge, sorry.
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>>2247762
>I thought after I learned the process of drawing a figure
You still haven't anon. Those figures and faces have all kinds of problems with them. Use reference and do more figure drawing.
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>Please dont redirect me to the beginner thread (been here for a year)

...you don't just graduate in art skill after x amount of time, there's no seniority. You need to keep posting in the beginner thread because you have yet to master form and perspective.
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New thread.

>>2248104
>>2248104
>>2248104
>>2248104
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>>2247108
is the gate supposed to be titled ?
It looks weird and perspectively wrong
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