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>>2586945
I used to follow every how to draw manga tutorial on the internet, buy how to draw manga and was always on the look for the right materials for years.

Took 9 months of weekly 4 hour classes and really helped me a lot. It was not manga related, with real nude models.

The classes will likely teach you very little. If you are a complete beginner you might take more from it, but any intermediate who is serious about learning might find the classes lacking unless he has some luck in having a good teacher. If it's public college courses, there will be a mostly people who aren't serious about art, and the curriculum is lowered to match these, so they should at least have a chance at a passing grade. Or perhaps it will have people who are taking it as a hobby. They'll probably push some experimental contemporary art nonsense to you at the end of the course or second level courses after some very basic "fundamentals" which is barely enough training, if at all, to get anyone past being a beginner.

You should study everything you can outside of class. Focus everything on drawing. Have a curious attitude.

If you have a natural charm and show that you are serious about learning, teachers will love to have you around and might even invite you to sit in life drawing classes which you are not enrolled in.

>>2586945
is that pic from the classes you are going? if so you aren't going to learn anything, just lose time, unless you want to lose time, in which case it's fine

ok

Natural 20

>>2589751
I'm by no means a pro, but here I go:

I generally like the linework, but it seems odd to me that the linework of the wing/the feathers is far more rough than the person's. This gives the impression that the person is based on some reference while the wing was drawn from imagination. It looks "added" - same goes for the burned wing, which by the way looks like it comes from the shoulder. The way the charred bones are perfectly black while everything else isn't seems strange to me. I'd rather try to add some texture to a white bone.

If you add the bones of the burned wing together you will see that either the intact wing is too big or the bones are too short (I'd assume the latter.)

I can't really interpret the facial epression, but maybe that's what you are going for. Other than that, the head is pretty good.

Hand looks a bit odd, I think the fingers might be too big.

The cloth needs more Burne "human swastika" Hogarth.

The chest might profit from a bit more texture.

The overall composition seems fine to me. Not exciting, but functional.

Not too bad for starters, I'd say.

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Read a book or something.

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>Been drawing 8 hours today
>Finish, roll a joint, go to my backyard
>Blaze it while looking at the sky

Life is great

um overwatch?

Still amazing.

Jelly as fuck desu

>>2576784
>you will never be rich and famous for making a ridiculous anime sculpture jizzing his own body weight in cum

Why do you put japanese in everything? Do you EVEN know japanese?

>>2588903
Well duh, how could he write it if he doesn't know it

>random kana
At least google some kanji, weeb.

You should first have to coat the entire surface with oil, either toned or plain. This is because if there is a patch of oil color, over the course of time the oil from it will creep out of its edge. I find the best way in working on paper is to add light colors and dark colors on to a toned surface, having more body in the light colors and some sort of thick medium (resin or oil) with the dark.The colors will sink in after drying and you can apply glaze over the dark to make them as you see fit.

I can't guarantee it will be archival.

>>2587907
I don't know anything about the materials to be honest. I just have brushes and tubes of oiled paint
I also have a flask of something who is supposed to make the whole thing "glossy"

>>2587887
I'm not an expert, but I do know that oil paint will ruin bare canvas over time, eventually destroying the work.

You should apply an acrylic gesso to the paper, just like you would with canvas.

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>>2589290
POST IN BEGGINERrrEREREREZREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What are you fucking gay?

>>2584634

Nathan pls

>>2584633
That's how most of his color keys look like. How exactly is it bad? It reads very well from the thumbnail, thus it does its intended job perfectly fine.

>>2582919
>Is 800$ a month doable?

HAACK WEEEZ HAAACK COUGH AH COUGH

In America, hell no.

If you dont have a fanbase, you don't have any whales to give you gold.

>>2582934
I think he's asking if some average nobody artist can get to $800 in patreon funds, rather than if someone can live off of $800.

>>2584315
kitsch is at its heart a matter of taste, and taste is a class identifier. When someone says that is kitsch, they are saying that is a non-educated, working class piece of art. Therefore it must be ridiculed because the poor do not have good taste because they're dirty etc.

it's bogus essentially. It's a way for the educated to distinguish themselves form the uneducated.

>>2584315

Pic related is not a style that is generally considered kitsch. Kitschy artworks are in general more sentimental and easily digested, not dark gothic edgy stuff

>>2584315
kitsch is when someone likes something because it
seems to look like something classy, fancy or important but it's really not. It's about stupid artists thinking they know a thing or two about art because they can copy or mimic whatever thing that is "in" at the time.

Kitsch is for hacks because it breeds more hacks, Greatest example is weeb and vidja artists. They flock to whatever "in" thing and build a patreon/tumblr business until the next "in" thing comes along. They're like vultures thinking they're peacocks.

Nothing is real skill or talent with them. They'll use whatever trick, cheat, or theft they can get away with. They'll ruin anyone that calls them on it.

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I made a crab

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This was my first one

>>2579778
I love it!

>>2583098
Start with Bridgman, Loomis, Hogarth and Vilppu. Read the rest as you see fit.

>>2583098
dont read any books. I never read a book and I turnt out fine.

Art is for jawks, not nerds

>>2583105
Sir, I find that unlikely. Also, these books are not for reading, they're for guiding your drawing exercises- it's like 10% reading 90% drawing.

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>>2587589
and then compare with

>>2587589
there's a load of creepily realistic stuff that it does raise an eyebrow, iirc the tiger/lion arc had some, lemme find the pic

>>2587589
he just like to do ref from time to time while style stuff being the main dish

and so what?

I lay down on my couch with portraits I have drawn and masturbate pretending shes my gf and that shes jerking me off

>>2577690
>now we can post portraits in the porn thread
kek

>>2577703
U callin my imaginary gf a whore? Fight me irl bitch nigga I'll wreck u