Why is it that on some colour wheels blue is the opposite of red but on others the opposite of red is green?
Because red is the opposite of green, and the other is wrong
>>2625552
Is there a name for the wrong colour wheel?
>>2625555
post it so I can see what you're looking at
>Have been drawing in secret for years
>only draw animals/nature/objects/skulls/characters
>can't draw people for shit
>try to draw a portrait
>not realistic
>how the fuck do you draw hair
>how the fuck do you draw a nose
> hard for me to keep attention to one drawing
>missionfailed.jpg
>should I abort portraits
Don't worry everything looks bad
Draw what you see not what you think you see. Eyes aren't ovals with circles inside
Hair is the ultimate test against the so called symbol drawing. If you don't think in shapes of value/hue you'll never get it
There's a beginner thread too
got u bruh >>2622667
First time I tried portrait I copied an already completed sketch.
It gave me an idea about shadows and shading.
>Try drawing pic related for a start
Hey Art Students. Why don't you teach a class here on /ic/ instead of just pointing out mistakes. You learn things better when you have to teach them.
because I don't want to help you guys.
Actually I fucking hate you and I'm jealous of anyone with a better powerlevel than me so obviously I'm not gonna help.
screw you fags
>>2625852
/thread
>>2625852
The ones you are teaching don't have your powerlevel. Teach, and always be learning the next lesson yourself, and your powerlevel will always be higher than the ones you are teaching.
Is drawing really a skill that can be taught?
Have you guys seen the horrible progress made by people on deviant art?
Do some people have a limited genetic capacity to how good they can become?
I guarantee you if you took one of those people you're talking about and introduce them to Loomis (or something with a fundamentally sound learning structure), they'd reject it immediately.
You get out what you put into it. These people can learn - anyone can. They just don't want to.
>>2624304
The problem of those deviantart shitters is that they get stuck in some own comfort zone and stop trying to improve.
You won't get better if you don't try to get better.
This guy probably draws casually and spends 2 or less hours on art not even every day (most likely he also took big breaks), so this seems like a proper progress for that dedication.
>Do some people have a limited genetic capacity to how good they can become?
Yep, it's called how many hours a day are you willing to spend on improving and how consistent are you with it. Also not staying in the comfort zone and constantly trying new things.
That is my shot on the niagara waterfall, a bit alternatised.
I used a small canvas , with tempera paint.
I'm a beginner, so I ask your aid.
How does one make a proper waterfall?
Any constructive criticism is appreciated
bump
there is my first canvas painting
I like blue ish colours
I also want to ask, how to mix vivid colours?
I feel that my paintings colours are stuck in mediocrity.
Sorry for making the photos with a potato
>here's my first serious paper painting
>>2621763
I like them, has a quality to them. but do you use photos, cause the skies are curved as if wide angle lens photo ref was used. read "alla prima" which you can find in the books thread.
waterfalls and moving shapes is taught as identifying the shapes which occur in the object and doing them with soft edges to imply movement. read the damn book lol.
What tips do you prefer?
What ink flow do you prefer?
What are the results you get?
Etc.
>>2626189
doesnt matter what tip as long as its just the tip.
>>2626189
The Pentel pocket brush is absolutely fantastic when you get one with good flow, I love how fine you can get but still lay a good wet line when needed.
As a cheap alternative, a waterbrush filled with Ecoline or fountain pen ink is nice.
I haven't tried any of the Kuretakes yet, wtb the #40 sable whenever I need anything else from Japan.
The pocket brush is my favorite. You can get an incredible range of different strokes from it. You can go really fucking thicc and really really thin, you can get nice wet strokes but also a dry stroke if you go fast to get a cool textured look. The downsides are that it's hard as balls to control and the cartridges are non-standard so if you want new ones you need to buy from pentel(I refill mine with a syringe though, works fine, fight the power). Once you get used to it though, it's fucking amazing.
There are also the pentel color brushes which have a little bit thicker tips that makes them a bit easier to handle and have a larger ink cartridge that you can refill with a syringe(I got like 6 different colors and after I used them up I filled each with a different ratio of water and black ink and now I have great brushes for washes). They are great but I prefer the pocket brush for line work since it gives me better lines, they also don't look as nice as the pocket brush.
I'm not sure I would call the copic style tip a brush tip. It's more like a bendy felt tip, there are no bristles. It's pretty nice though and easy to use but not as much variation in lines It feels much more like a marker than a brush really. So it's a great tip for markers, not so much for inking.
I am by no means an astounding artist, but I drew something in March that I cannot stop loving. It's not my most skilled, but it just has that allure. We all have that sketch/painting/etc., share it with us.
prepare to bleed
>>2625896
They can crit (or shit talk) if they want, it'll only help. I made this thread for others.
>>2625895
Damn son I usually cringe at work I've done even a month ago. You #stagnated?
If anyone here is using Scott Robertson's book to learn perspetive, do you use pen or pencil?
both
>>2626160
whatever you like later on, but it's recommended in the beginning exercises that you get comfortable with a pen first
>>2626160
this book is a nightmare!!
stuck on chapter two. dont know what the hell he is talking about
Inspiration thread?
based susini
>>2616501
At least start with something good
>>2616505
that rendering is pretty bad senpai
How come no one has ever uploaded the Watts Atelier drawing programs videos?
>>2621504
cause its too awesome for ic!
>>2621504
Ugh yeah I know... The price is pretty steep. Though the content is probably pretty good. I think I've watched the quick sketch video he put on youtube 4 times now.
Because you don't learn anything hoarding tutorials
Whats keeping you from creating art? this is an honest question. What are you afraid of?
failure
>>2612305
Nothing.
I obsessively draw the same person every time I pick up a pencil and it's not healthy
I have an interesting issue that I wonder if anyone should shed some light on
how do you manage models?
I need a model or two for some stencil work I am doing, but I'm not sure how it really works
there are some issues I can forsee
the first is the anonymity of the models, if the identity of the model is known it could seriously detract from my work, but when I am using their likeness how can it be practically avoided?
am I expected to keep models identity a secret anyway?
the second is how do I hire a model?
by the hour? by the job? what is a fare rate of pay for standing still for an hour or two, or just having a few photos taken?
the third is how do I protect myself from a model who causes trouble after the artwork is done?
publicly denouncing it (if it's political or they just don't like it)
demanding I not display it
getting themselves known for something unseemly while the piece is for sale
how do I protect myself from accusations of impropriety?
maybe even things I haven't thought of
it might seem overly cautious but my work is primarily political and people would actively seek out my models for PR stunts
>>2624870
>Find some "Models" on insta
>hit them in the DM
>offer like 25-30/hr
>Pretend like this is a routine thing, be professional
>When she shows up drop subtle hints that you're connected
>???
>She hops on your dick
"Models" is the keyword here, AKA delusional fucktoys with 25 photo editing apps on their iPhone and daddy issues.
>>2625087
Wow. Youve got some issues with women, huh?
>>2625087
a lot of them are actually like that, great plan if I wanted to get laid
however I am more interested in art
Draw inside shape, post with new shape.
bump. Last thread a while ago turned out pretty awesome.
>>2624521
sorry anon, I am browsing 4chin at work right now
>>2624213
like this? I'm not sure this is how it goes
Grand Prize
>You drew everyday for a long time, longer than anyone else. Congratulations. You are the best
Rules
>Update every day at: http://www.lavaflake.com/draw/
>The deadline for submissions is 23:59:59 GMT each day
>You should spend at least 30 minutes on each update
>Miss a day and you lose a token, FAQ is the first post.
>Miss another day within a month and you're eliminated.
>Progress updates are ok but they will be policed like other submissions
>Please wait until page 9 to start a new thread
>Please link to past thread
>Have fun.
>Please refrain from drawing sexual encounters with under age humans ;^)
Last Thread >>2619903
>>2623952
This is a list of anons who regularly stream, this list will be updated as we move forward, if you wish to be included please post you name/stream profile.
>STREAMERS
https://picarto.tv/aimai
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https://picarto.tv/dotesq
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https://picarto.tv/magicoreo
https://picarto.tv/nakedoats
https://picarto.tv/N4F
https://picarto.tv/UltraBondageFairy
https://picarto.tv/VitaminNeko
https://picarto.tv/Choob
https://picarto.tv/susipari
https://piczel.tv/watch/HighOnDopamine
https://picarto.tv/namefag
https://picarto.tv/artscrub
https://picarto.tv/SubCryo
Streamers, please let the thread know when you're streaming so people can join the "fun".
>>2623954
FAQ:
Something's broken, what do I do?
>The site is currently in the alpha phase of development and is being built around us as we compete so sometimes things go wrong. If you ever need any help send me a tweet @LavaFlake or shoot me an email [email protected].
What do we draw?
>Whatever you want. At this point there's no required topic so draw your heart out. Make sure you submit at least a half hour of work or you may get a low effort warning.
What's a low effort warning?
>The goal is to get people to draw every day by turning it into a competition. The low effort warning system is to prevent people from posting last minute, quick sketches when they're feeling lazy. If you receive a warning and it happens again within a month you'll be eliminated.
>This rule has been the cause of a lot of concern amongst newer artists so let me reiterate: this system is to police low effort content and has nothing to do with the quality of the work. New artists are more than welcome.
What happens if I'm eliminated?
>A new Last Artist Standing challenge starts every week. If you get eliminated then get it together and rejoin next week.
How can there be a new Last Artist Standing challenge every week?
>This is a way to let new artists join in and to allow re-entry for the eliminated. Every week a new challenge is started. If you joined on week 1 and make it to week 2 then your daily submission counts for both the first and second Last Artist Standing. If you get eliminated then you're eliminated from both challenges and you'll be able to rejoin next week.
Will I have an advantage if I join later in the week?
>The winner of a Last Artist Standing will be the artist with the longest streak. If you join on day 1 and last until day 85 then you'll have a streak of 85. If there's only one person left in the challenge when you're eliminated but they joined on Day 7 then they'll need to continue on for another week. If they're eliminated before then, you win.
[email protected]
I'm looking for an artist or artists to work closely with. I've been working for years on a story that I need to turn into a reality. Ideally we could turn this into a comic, but I wouldn't be opposed to animation. We would obviously need voice actors at that point as well as an entire team dedicated to editing, etc. I'm driven and seeking only those who would be willing to pour their blood sweat and tears into this. I've been sitting on this for quite a while fine tuning every detail I can and I'm finally ready to turn this passion project into something more. If your interested and want to work with me, send an email saying what you can bring to the project. Only those who are passionate about their work should respond. Get in on something epic
Pic isn't mine, I just fucking love tmnt
>>2624320
What Is your budget?
>>2624348
Square one. I'm willing to dump every dollar I have that's not putting food in my mouth into this. I've got my story, and that's all. That's why I was asking for passionate people. There's no immediate compensation, just the promise of hard work and a real shot at the dream
>>2624358
get out