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I like it!

Could have been posted in one of the numerous draw threads tho

>>2727763
there is the drawing thread, but I am not going to sage since I like your lines and simplicity

I don't care that much for composition as long as the scene is readable, which it is, but what about the story behind this? A hint in the background for why would the woman want to shoot the guy? If this is part of story, told with illustrations (comics, visual novels, which affect in their own way composition), I imagine you don't need to drop hints in each illustration, but if this is a peace of it's own, maybe try engage the viewer more, giving him more hints of story, while also giving him gaps to imagine his own stuff. Does that make sense?

>>2727763
The gun placement looks a bit silly, like it seems so carefully placed there so we can clearly see it and none of it is covered up or anything. Maybe try grabbing stapler or something and a small bag and trying the sit in a chair yourself and see how you'd hold/hide it. I'm not really buying her pose. She also seems to be looking not directly at him, but more to the side, not sure if that is intentional or not. Most people aren't left handed either, though I guess it's not a big deal.

As far as composition, well I guess it's okay at the moment but this sort of interior scene REALLY depends on how you choose to light it, what you choose for local colours, where you put the contrasts and focus. So it's nearly impossible to say if it will work or not.

>>2727658
I'll fite you mang dont make me crazy

>>2721121
See

>>2721122

>implying youre not the same person

>>2721131
literally my first time posting in months and my second time ever.

nah brah.

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>>2721121
You don't deserve actual effort, so have this infographic instead.

>>2727559
sleep early, early rise and study before work instead.

Are you me?

I'm a millworker and I'm just finishing off a 50 hour week

>>2727559
Readjust your schedule so that your job is the last thing you do for the day. So that it's just home, shower, bed, then you get a good few hours in the early morning to do what you want without being dead on your feet.

Had the same problem, bruv.

>>2727064
The proportion part is talked in Scott Robertson's book and even Loomis's Fun with a Pencil. Basically just create a 2D floor plan.

>>2727064
Interiors where the horizon line is far off the image with lots of non-parallel objects that all have their own vanishing points can be easiest constructed by drawing a cube and using that as guideline. Then just eyeball it and make sure every object sits correctly on the ground plane. The side planes of the cube inform you over how the relative proportions change from the front to the back without needing accurate vanishing points.

Also, if you want to be more accurate, you can actually determine the exact horizon line in an image like this pretty easily. You just need to expand the canvas by a lot and then find 2 parallel lines that go towards the horizon line, like on the windows or the doors.

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You can still determine the horizon line, it's just off the page.

Pic related, the thick red line is the horizon, determined by the converging of each wall of the room.
Purple lines show the perspective of a few objects.

Bright green lines show proportion of two students' chairs (imperfectly, since they're not perfectly parallel with each other - this could be worked out by drawing them parallel and rotating one with an ellipse in perspective).
Dark green lines show the proportion of two students' heads.

Best examples I could pick out in a complicated scene of overlapping objects and hazy lighting, hopefully makes sense.

But ditto to what the other two anons said. Scott Robertson's book can teach you a lot about these complex rules, and once you understand the theory behind how it works, it's very easy to just eyeball it.

Don't stress it, no one's going to become an expert on perspective after reading one book.

easytoon is the simplest and most lightweight. perfect for newbies. I started off with it anyway

>>2726655
Thank you. I'd prefer one that allows for anti-aliasing and color, but this is great for a start.

>>2726654
Source?

>>2727433
/ic/ is a critique board dominated by traditional and digital drawing and painting. Few to none of us know a thing about music. You would be better off posting in /mu/, and then you will avoid most of the shitposting you would get here

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>>2727436

>and then you will avoid most of the shitposting you would get here

And replace it with all of the shitposting he'll get there.

>>2725427
>>2725428
damn, can't currently afford it with the international shipping
congratz tho

>>2725431
not sure about that, they might cancel the order.

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not this lab mode maymay again...

>>2727286
he's mixing grey tones with his colors and blending them on the edges. he's also building up layers of brush work. he's just a patient.

>>2727286
what does a single color even matter? are you even close to that level of skill? just keep improving.

>>2727309
not gonna make it

You're probably neglecting your health if you don't have enough energy for the day; Get on a proper diet and do dome daily exercise.

>>2727225

Yeah, why won't you? Every other piece you shit has muddy color palette and some teenage edgy shit to compensate for lack of basic thought behind your art and completely unreadable composition filled with perspective errors.

Why don't you just get good and paint well? Or did you already resigne yourself to never making it?

>>2727225
My mom:
>why don't you paint more landscapes
>why do you always paint such horrible fantasy things
>why don't you paint in oils instead of digital

Better than my ex's mom:
>why don't you paint jesus

>>2726873
none of that happened, go back to r9k

>>2726876
this is literally my life and because you dont believe it i don't exist, huh?

You have to be careful with the way you judge your own progress. I think a lot of the time we really don't understand where we're at so our dominant emotion at the time, pessimism or optimism fills in the blanks. I think this is why a lot of people who take breaks come back to it feeling like they've done really well or poorly on the first piece after the break, but then later they look back at that specific piece and think it's just average.

As far as training goes, are you pushing yourself, or have you gotten too comfortable with what you're doing? Is your practice lacking variety or structure? Repetition is the key to skill, but you need to be aware of whether you've begun digging a rut to sit in. You could even be putting too much pressure on yourself and sabotaging your mentality.

There's also the cold hard fact that sometimes the picture in your head of where you want to be is just years down the road still.

All you can really do is maintain a healthy perspective of things and keep pushing your boundaries. Try new subjects, new mediums. Look for new sources of information you might have passed over. Spend some time refreshing yourself with some fundamental exercises. Don't get down in the dumps about anything or you'll start running into problems.

>>2726871
All of them. No reason not to.

>>2726884
Strongly disagree. It's best to focus your efforts on 1 or 2 sites. You will likely spread yourself too thin with more sites, as it takes a considerable amount of effort to significantly grow them.

>normie media such as Facebook and Instagram.
Get over yourself.

Tumblr's my go-to. Ease of use and generally if you tag it decently and you're not shit other blogs will do the work of promoting you. Deviantart is a pain in the ass due to the added steps (adding a category, submitting to groups, hitting the "no it's not NSFW let me post my fucking drawing" button, etc).

>>2726884

>No reason not to.

It being a time consuming annoyance is a pretty good reason not to if you just do it as a hobby. I tried to keep a deviantart, twitter, facebook and tumblr going but unless it's a piece I really like I just stick to tumblr nowadays. It's a lot of busywork and unless you're well established on a platform the busywork can potentially be for very little payoff.

>>2726579
Guptill's book Rendering in Pen and Ink is the by far the best resource on it. It's very thorough, and is filled with a lot of exercises, ideas, and good examples. It's very dry though, so it will be tough to work your way through the entire thing.

Otherwise just study closely (both through copying and through looking and analyzing) the masters. Wrightson for example has obviously studied guys like Franklin Booth intensely.

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>>2726585
Thank you, anon. Also looking into Charles Gibson, Charles Broughton, Edwin Howland Blashfield, Alice Barber Stephens and Willy Pogany. Here's another Wrightson Frankenstein for the help.

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>Listening to Frankenstein audiobook right now while drawing
>See this thread
Thanks OP! you just made my night a little bit nicer