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I am shit at shoulders and would like some advice or help on this particular piece.
I've been trying to use a reference but that's just confused me even more
(and yes, I know it's a bit too anime but I've been trying to find a way to get my original influences out of my style for years now)
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I came out with the above version after trying to use a photo reference but I'm not entirely sure it's even better than the original body i drew
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>>2835998
>>2836000
Look at skeletons, and muscle diagrams. Look at videos of people moving their arms, and look at yourself in the mirror.
Try to get an understanding of what's going on under the skin. I would suggest you do a couple of simple shoulder studies, then return to your image.
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that right thigh hella short
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Can anyone tell me if there is any artistic movement or name for this type of art?
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>>2835989
yeah, SHIT
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>>2835989
illustration
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>>2835989
Stewieism
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I'd like to do sketches but at the same time I have no imagination drawing skills and I have to rely heavily on references. What should I do in this situation? Should I just go with drawing whatever stuff or should I do something else?
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Just draw, fucking stop wasting time.
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>>2836416
just drawing gives no skill, you have to do smart studies
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>>2835895
Find another hobby anon
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Alternative Art/Stylization General 2017-01-26 03:34:59 Post No.2832524
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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.
Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun!
Fresh off the Mayflower? Then do yourself a flavor and check out /ic/s complementary subordinate sticky here:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
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>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
Use twitch #creative
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
デジ絵の文法 playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKZrlE6oUGx4Mh1zJLnKLc1SDPJfsoxnS
https://www.palmie.jp/ - twitter required for assigments
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
Have any suggestions on helpful resource links? Leave a comment anytime ITT and I will look into it.
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Took me 20 minutes. What do you think.
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>>2832590
Reduce image size. Apply yourself. Read the sticky.
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Who does /ic/ consider top tier artists, who've mastered fundamentals of art.
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>>2831141
Van Gogh had interesting perception of colors and shapes, although I wouldn't say that he mastered the fundamentals. I love his art though. An innovator, but not a master.
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>>2831152
he was definitely the last good modern artist before it all went to shit
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>>2831141
He's literally us.
>autist
>started at 27
>was shit until he read a book
>poor
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Hey, /ic/. I want to start drawing gore. I've been studying human anatomy and physiology to know how things work but I still need references. Anyone know a good place where I can find some without getting into trouble? I don't want stuff like murder/torture. If its accidents then I guess its okay. Humans only please.
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Why don't you kill yourself and record it?
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>>2833787
but then I wouldnt be able to draw it.
Maybe we can look for another answer. Do you guys think you can learn how to draw gore without photo references?
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>>2833785
just look for human corpses in google
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I gave up my dream of becoming an artist last year and now every time I try to draw for fun I want to kill myself, literally the urge for suicide becomes stronger than it is when I'm just working my shitty dead end job.
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>>2833376
if you don't give a shit about yourself and your life why not just kill yourself already?
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>>2833376
You aren't suicidal. You just hate your life.
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>>2833376
I'm the same except I haven't given up, OP. Is it worth working a job along side. There's programming, but I don't know mate. That stuff takes a lot of time. Almost as much as art.
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The process of creation: Seperating Art from Autism 2017-01-26 06:29:28 Post No.2832674
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For starters, let me preface by saying pic related is not a work of art by my definition. It is a representation of what goes into the creative process:
Delusion, Intoxication and Self.
I am autistic so my art about art itself is in an example of someone putting too much or too little into the 3 categories. In other words, autism art is when you look at a work and say "wow that's a lot of time commited, but uh why would anyone do this?" notice how pic related lacks:
Cube:Delusion: This is your ability to delude the viewer into thinking said picture is not a picture, but rather "realistic" aka studies
Skull:Intoxication: Style, it sweeps you under like graffiti, but most of all it points to a particular individual. pic related is ambiguous as balls, its a vague anime style. aka your choices, the things you have control over.
Mirror:Self: Have i included anything in pic related about my personal human experience ? all you know is that i am autistic but is this is a piece about how autism affects me day to day?
aka your experiences that you lack control over
a more successful piece would be thus:
it wouldn't have to be totally realistic, but say i have an anime piece of an autistic individual with consistent lighting, the style uses a lot of saturated colors and i based it off studies of photos from my day to day life, which allows for nice details.
doesn't that feel better on your brain? sure feels better on mine.
In conclusion, i think talent is autism. Normal art is hard work. but eventually the autist needs the normie to show him how to work hard & the normie needs the autist to show him how to think more creatively.
Let this be me extending my hand out in cooperation /ic/ tell me about your creative process if your art is meta in nature, and if you are good at doing realism, tell us weirdo's how much to invest for real. I think all of us could learn from one another.
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I think autistic people shouldn't create art desu.
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tl;dr
Stop shitting up the board with your pseudo intellectual autism diarrhea
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>>2832674
You're trying hard to be deep but it's coming off disjointed and nonsensical. Just because you are autistic doesn't mean you're smart.
Educate yourself and in a few years come back.
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really feeling shit tonight
every time i do an illustration right now, i 'overwork'/'overthink' it and my boyfriend tells me the old one was better.
i burst into tears tonight and just have those horrible dark thoughts that my art is utter shit.
i don't understand why i can't see my mistakes after 3 years of grinding.
i'm so frustrated. i love art but i'm just at that point where i'm bashing my head against a wall and trying to produce something i LIKE...
i fucking hate EVERYTHING i'm doing right now
yes i can get freelance gigs and i get the whole "your art is gud" bullshit, but i look at wes burt and jana and i just dont know how i can ever make it to where i want to be
RANT OVER. rip me to shreds ic, i don't care. i feel like only you guys will understand these feels, or be able to tell me to shut the fuck up and keep going
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>>2828526
is your boyfriend an artist though, or a non-creative normie faggot?
also,
post
your
work.
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>>2828526
post werk
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>>2828526
post all your work please, I've felt the same. Usually, when you see someone that's inferior to you, you'll feel better about your pieces.
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ARTBOOK THREAD (FIRST OF 2017 ISSUE) 2017-01-07 11:25:54 Post No.2807656
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ARTBOOK THREAD (FIRST OF 2017 ISSUE)
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Main Book Links:
>http://www.mediafire.com/folder/17axpf4d7k05u/artbooks#myfiles
>http://pastebin.com/VG8dcWcf (embed)
>https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw
Beginner's essential books:
Andrew Loomis's Books
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!WBERCQiB!uMTQlTgeSCK_4FxKDwE_Lg
Burne Hogarth's Books
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!fINAQbZK!YtfCRPbKIIZjT84meSl3DQ
"The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards
>https://mega.co.nz/#!6ZsTESZD!cBHFG4pgOWGurLr8SgC79v3Eu-gOjmaH9JAC_XeYQEA
"Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson
>https://mega.co.nz/#!LZsVXTjJ!t5W4mBq9v2iBbJWxvHM04rrMtA4wV7d3ZqX4daJowL4
"Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters" by Robert Beverly Hale
>https://mega.co.nz/#!CAVSjLZa!d-xFoYCx1TrzqOLbL0LVN9ZmzRrFxtaz6JDCvBSN5hY
"How to Draw" by Scott Robertson (HIGH quality scan)
>https://mega.co.nz/#!iB81WbxK!eNSWCFuDinDeSXib_e0s6ZpfPIAMEGEPpz8otwRiIoQ
"Alla Prima: Everything I know about Painting" by Richard Schmid
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/l5eatwcpn8w7la8/%28Richard+Schmid%29+Alla+Prima+-+Everything+I+Know+About+Painting.pdf
"Color and Light - A Guide for the Realist Painter" by James Gurney (HIGH quality scan)
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/uecuhtr5vdd9kx6/%28James_Gurney%29_Color_%26_Light_-_A_Guide_for_the_Realist_Painter.pdf
"Imaginative Realism: How to paint what does not exist" by James Gurney
>https://mega.nz/#!ywsSCQzB!HC07i7ntFEYQUAOy9GBYWxTrF2fzbo67Jf4jVuj57DE
"Perspective Made Easy" by Ernest R. Norling
>https://mega.co.nz/#!yEVH0RzI!hExkmbL9WTEV20aI10De7q9J4rf3t3A6uluz4cT9FbM
"The Animator's Survival Kit" by Richard Williams
>https://mega.co.nz/#!bFchmCAZ!papybufoEqDH8Vn19hVk8zxohaYOB5XjLM2U-EZT8Js
"Anatomy for Sculptors" by Uldis Zarins
>https://mega.co.nz/#!GIdSSZib!rI1rTzWtIiUq0Qn4ECJHU-fOhB011wFTH8Egqdguk5M
DYNAMIC BIBLE
>https://mega.nz/#F!CF9g3QpD!Mc41x88vBi1afeoBWxcp-A
HYPER ANGLE + Drapery
>https://mega.nz/#!AxwBELxR!4qtKaU55buF-l6NNPoyu2JWAhM0bFTrV5-SUxfqq3Eg
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"Memory Drawing : Perception and Recall"
>https://mega.nz/#!6g0WxYbZ!FdpzcawiFj5WixyulEtGw57uYTZ4pH5uA5sWjRJghMI
"Oppai and H-Gals Book"
>https://mega.nz/#!ocV1EaxL!AvqA_iAwq_H8RX_xQzC8KYRRHMv9CLuoq5yxxFLaXyE
"The art of Fire Emblem: Awakening (Knights of Iris in JP)"
>https://mega.nz/#!DoZSjZ5A!Qrcx2a8NRy4WTduiXkS0VEzyDpVj_NTUoB-Sn6N4SG4
"The Art of Yoh Yoshinari: Rough Sketches Book"
>https://mega.nz/#!awdB0RaA!qSchqOeZbQx4odhMSiz3gaNXugkp1jXdjriI-XZruLc
>https://mega.nz/#!OwcjiCLD!ehsnEFDi_Q5jqWJRQ2S-4ei2n4rMcpxgXnT3WkdRiR8
"Muybridge: The Human Figure in Motion"
>https://mega.nz/#!xh4SAaZL!7tHxNc4jAHSgxx0MHbVKKbh3HRVyD5cDQ3ctqKNezU0
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Please, how do you get mega to work? I've tried to dl anatomy for sculptors a couple times but it always freezes at the 60% mark...
I've been debating on going to art school when I'm done elementary school and High School. I took the last couple hours to make this picture on paint and was wondering if you bros think I have talent to go on and conquer my dreams!
Honest critique only, no plebs or trolls please.
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What you can do now doesn't matter, art is all about hard work. If you're willing to work, you can conquer your dreams, but it you expect magic to happen, just give up.
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Thanks man. Here's another one that took me quite awhile. I have tons.
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May be my best work, I call it Tree Of Life.
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So
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>>2834837
learn how to paint
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>>2834857
I paint how I wanna
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Guys, sorry to bother, but I'm writing to you because I'm legit scared - the amount of frustration digital art has brought me makes me consider quitting art and becoming a wagecuck.
I've been progressing steadily for over two years, even started writing e-books to redpill normies on fundamentals, until about three months ago when I bought a tablet (Giano). Every time I open up a new canvas, all motivation, inspiration and drive leaves me instantly and I end up rendering spheres and cylinders, suddenly it's midnight and I feel like I haven't moved an inch closer to becoming a decent artist.
>pic related, probably the farthest I ever took something
Where do I start, how do I get to that sweet spot where I produce something finished and have a consistent work process?
Did I just fell for a cruel joke that art isn't supposed to be fun and it's just 20 mins of sketching and then 20 fucking hours of mindless zoom in/zoom out turd polishing?
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>>2833417
Do traditional, scan it, make a clean-up and maybe coloring/some adjustment in digital.
Here, probrem solved.
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>>2833417
>I'm scared so I stay in my comfort zone
>Why am I not improving?
Embrace the fear and get out of your comfort zone. You will improve and get back on track. Just take the time to get shit done. Drawing though is seriously way quicker than the rendering process though. Rendering takes forever until you're good at it and even then it still takes a long time because now you know how to polish.
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Drawing stuff from your computer
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I'm starting and i want to know if there's a problem with drawing stuff looking at your monitor.
I don't have a place to draw so i use my computer desktop as desktop (worth the redundancy)
is it any harmful to my learning if i don't use real life objects? (because the perspective and all that stuff)
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It won't exactly kill your studies, but maybe slow it a bit.
Try to at least draw real life stuff that you have available next to you, like a coffee mug.
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>>2830124
> like a coffee mug.
didn't think about this thanks.
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>>2830119
never gonna make it
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What's the best way to learn things like interesting composition, shape language, proportion etc? I feel like whenever I try to get into I'm heading more towards graphics design and other disciplines. I've spent so long nailing the basics of drawing, but now that I want to make something that actually looks interesting I'm pretty lost.
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From what field are you from ? Comic ? Illustration ? Digital painting ?
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>>2835422
imo it's just to keep all those things in mind while studying other artists work that appeals to you. also check out this, it explains a lot about what makes something appealing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vnFdYksnqo