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/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD 2017-02-15 10:52:41 Post No.2862552
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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
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>screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)
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>change camera capture settings to something smaller
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>send to computer and resize in MSPaint
→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
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How did Dave Rapoza get good? His old works he posted on conceptart.com weren't good at all, yet he made a solid progress during these 6 years and everyone will agree that he's a really good artist. Hell, even /ic/ won't dare to shit on him because he does all of his works with no references or photobashing.
>inb4 he studied
Ye, but how? I watched several interviews with him, and he said he was practicing 12 hours a day but that's not saying much, it's like the scene from opm when saitama says his training consists of 100 push ups squats and sit ups. Ive seen many artists on this site that were dedicated like him but after ten years maybe one or two didn't stop progressing after the second year, and it's my personal fear, even though I still haven't proceed in studying, I don't want to waste years like these guys did
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lmao you're making this post instead of cramming your head into a book and trying hard to improve your draws. something tells me you've already wasted years xd
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>>2864852
He has that self-hate self-depreciating character trait but doesn't allow it to drag him into all out despair. So he can see himself objectively, ridicule himself a bit, but then try to figure out how to improve instead of giving up and crying about it or making excuses.
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Art History as it Relates to Learning 2017-02-16 04:04:56 Post No.2862984
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Art History as it Relates to Learning
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Art history between Michelangelo and Ingres was pretty similar to one another. Slight simplification. But things became multiplicatively more simple once it reached Impressionism and into Post-impressionism.
Artists for the most part from the 1500s-1900s were able to create the same artwork their whole life, with things changing a bit at impressionism with Post-impressionism happening while Monet was alive.
Once Picasso was working in the art world he had to adapt to so many different art movements during his career. Things became so much simpler as his career progressed that by the end of his life to sell paintings he had to make almost childlike images.
After Picasso, like before the Renaissance, people turned to illustration. Images that have no cohesion, and are simply meant as a product, and not a stop in art history.
Assumedly, once all of you guys get out of your illustration phase, you will begin your journey back through art history like I've begun to do.
You will see incredible improvement between your Picasso and Ingres phases, and then slower and slower improvement as you move into your Rembrandt and Michelangelo phases, then back out the other end into illustration again.
Am I wrong?
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Personally I started about 3 years ago, and I moved out of the simpler Picasso period rather quickly, making pieces like this.
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and I've moved into I think just before the Post-Impressionism period, or right before the 1900s with pieces like this (remember that originally Picasso was a Post-Impressionist)
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>>2862984
Yeah you are wrong. Rembrandt and Michelangelo are the peak of the Grand Manner, so there's no way you would have gotten there at the Ingres phase.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>2864825
sauce on second pic?
looks interesting
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Wow, such a hack. I can't believe they used a common trick deployed for decades in different mediums.
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Found out recently that 8-bit Integer color space sux due to noticeable posterization.
So let me ask what the best configuration is for:
>ICC profile?
ACES/Pro/WideGamut/Adobe/s/CIE etc. RGB or if you use XYZ fine too.
>ICC version?
v4 or v2.x?
>color depth?
8/16/24/32/bit?
>TRC? (gamma)
l-star/linear/standard
>document type for publishing
PNG/raw BMP/etc. Preferrably lossless quality
>document type for master
ORA/KRA/PSD/etc.
For me TIFF is pretty good due to: WSIWYG, alpha, layers, ICC profile, and lossless compression although it's not widely used or supported...
TGA and XPM are also fine.
so far JPEG and PNG just works but recently most online services lossly re-compress images over and over again and sometimes even delete the ICC profile like what most normie social sites and 4chan/imgur does to save server space (only if the image exceeds the file size range for decreasing server/cdn and client load).
Tips to avoid these problems and which artist sites respect the ICC and file's checksum?
Do not >>>/b/itchpost if you don't understand any of the shit we're talking about.
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I'm lukewarm at best with color management technology so this ICC profile shit goes over my head, but other than that, I did fall for the linear gamma meme for while. my 2c is that it makes colours mix in a way that I feel is more predictable and aesthetic, but the very extreme lack of dark values is stiffling. I prefer gamma 2.2 or whatever is the standard over linear since I get to have more darks to work with.
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>>2864569
You can set krita's color wheel to use 2.2 even if the image has linear gamma.
my setup
>ICC profile?
ACESv4RGB
>ICC version?
v4
>color depth?
16bit (with alpha)
>TRC? (gamma)
linear
>document type for publishing
PNG with ICC profile converted to sRGB
>document type for master
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bane?
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carcetti?
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>>>/bane/
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>>2864233
Quick and dirty: the reflection of light is extremely subtle but still there. Utilize them to avoid having a sort of "dead" look to his eyes.
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Been a while since I painted anything. Is it any good?
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It has potential.
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the good thing about art is subjective..
When I look at your art, first thing that came up in my mind is album cover...
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>>2863276
Nice composition. Unfortunately I can't tell whether you're actually good or whether you use your messy style as a tool to hide your weak foundation.
I think it'd look better if you cropped the red circle so it looks like it's behind the altar.
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How can a traditional master such as David Kassan not sketch as well as Irakli Nadar who is doing digital art?
How does this add up?
Why do people cheat?
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That's because Irakli is all copy pasta. Traces and smudges. The dude is a fraud.
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Only one of them is actually sketching, and it's not Irakli. You should show both finished paintings as well.
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>>2860001
John Kassan is a traditional render monkey with weak construction and gestural abilites. He has acquired the rarely sought out skill of making life drawings look like lifeless copies of photos
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Need critique on my recent art
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>>2864847
This ones a collage
And the one in pic is a sargent study in the works
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I saw a ton of 'how to start drawing' on the sticky, but didn't found anything significant on painting.
What's the best route to someone who never painted to begin with this? I'm a little familiar with drawing and charcoal, and just bought some oil paintings and brushes.
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I'd suggest familiarizing yourself with William Powell's books on Color Mixing Recipes. The sheer wealth of colours available in oils is something you have to be aware of.
I mixed a few of Powell's mixes and slotted them into a metal mesh grid in my backpack, which secures them easily for plein air painting.
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Sorry for the image size, but you can see that the grid is arranged in R/B/Y.
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Start with a very limited palette.
Honestly, I'd even start with just black and white and focus on getting used to the medium.
Or if you want to go craaazy, get a nice burnt umber and white.
Just think of it as drawing in the beginning. Except you're just using paint, is all. No different really.
Focus on abstract shadow shapes. This will make or break you. Keep edges hard until you've gotten everything on the canvas (the drawing+shadow shapes).
Then blend for softer edges, and other gradients.
Keep things simple. They generally read better anyway.
Pic related although it's charcoal.
Don't get overwhelmed. Take your time, it's going to take a few attempts to get where you want to be.
With oil, it helps to use Gamsol (turpentine is toxic and smells horrible. Gamsol is non-toxic just very, very flammable...so store it in a jar to wash brushes and invest in a metal can to throw away any cloth/paper towel you might use with the gamsol.)
Mediums are nice too, Liquin is a good start. But just start with paint and gamsol and you should be good to go for a bit.
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We talked last week about Shad's payments sharply and plummeting decline.
He's now turned off the money feature. He must be in a lot of trouble. I'm guessing under $1500 a month now.
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What was it at it's peak?
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>>2854759
Something like
$2700
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>>2854775
Nice, good for him.
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Never really posted any of my shit so here u go.
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Is Deviantart fixable, or is it beyond saving? How would you try to make Deviantart a great website? Or at least less of a shitty website....
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>>2862872
how about you draw instead of judging the art of teenagers?
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>>2862882
Come on, it's Thursday night, let's have some funposting.
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>>2862872
it's not broken.
Use it as a hosting site and a portfolio and you'll find it's quite useful.
who is this artist? they're probably japanese or chinese.
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>>2864513
you know... you're probably right!
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Who are they? I wonder too. I mean, they have a pixiv account, a twitter, and so on. But really, who are they on the inside?
OP is deep man, he asks the big questions. He's a ... sage
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Tips for doing Photoshop paintings 2017-02-16 04:35:42 Post No.2863616
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Tips for doing Photoshop paintings
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I want to begin doing digital art in photoshop, can anyone recommend me any tips, tutorials, or even books on digital drawing or painting here?
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>>2863616
FZDSchool on youtube
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>>2863616
I'll give you the advice that if you want advice on that stuff then you need to provide more info, like if you have experience with normal painting or drawing.
Learning to paint and then learning a tool like photoshop (filters, layers, masks, brush settings, selection tools, etc) are two different things
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>>2863616
Not OP but also getting into Photoshop and learning it. I'd been using Paintool SAI for a few years before deciding to buck up and learn PS since its more widely used by professionals.
A huge difference right off the bat I'm noticing is that when painting with PS it seems like when blending colors on screen, It's mostly done through opacity. This is also the way Ctrl+paint teaches blending. Super different from SAI, where you can blend opaque colors with 100% opacity.
Are there some settings in PS that I'm not aware of? I just don't like the way it looks compared to SAI