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Schoolism vs New Masters Academy?


Which one should I subscribe to?
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New Masters Academy
/thread
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>>3042618

Why?


Also you can't /thread your own response. That's illegal.
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hey hey I do whatever hell i want. I used schoolism and i didn't learn shit also their good stuff is already available to torrent.

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let's further our understanding of all things metallic.

pic related is the practice sheet. the idea is to look up reference and then fill in the silhouettes, painting them to look metallic, focusing on getting the material properties right -- surface roughness, reflection strength, fresnel, etc.

there were some nuggets of good info in the latex thread before it drowned in e-celeb stuff. that's what inspired this thread. hopefully we'll get some good discussion out of this. if nothing else, seeing how fellow anons approach the same silhouettes should be useful just by way of comparing and contrasting.

i'll be doing a couple a day as part of my warmups, but you go at your own pace. i'm hoping to do a similar thread on plastics next week, so suggestions on how the thread/exercise could be improved would be appreciated. i know the resources section is thin. i can't google for shit.

resources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7juWm5srN9g
https://www.behance.net/gallery/35636521/Material-Studies-Metals
if you've got info or links that might be useful, please do share.
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i got mine done for the day, following along with the youtube clip in op.
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What is a good way to build a visual library of armor? I've gotten a pretty decent visual library of the human body but I've been struggling to build one of armor for the past few months.
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phew, that was hard work, good exercise!

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Am I the only one that is scared of /ic/?
This board literally kills everything that makes me wanna draw and get better at it.
All the shitty works here.. all the amateurs.. the amount of ppl here that try so hard yet they'll never make it. It makes me realize Im one if them. Makes me realize how much I suck and how futile all my practice probably is. The threads here are fun but at the same time this place is the biggest motivation and discipline killer ever.
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There are a handful (admittedly not a lot - but then again realize what website you're on) of objectively good artists on this board. Work and you can be one of them. Art is hard (and in other news, water is wet).

If I never found this board I would still be doing deviantart-tier work and defending it with "muh style." This place was a literal eye-opener.
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That realization should inspire you to work harder. A defeatist attitude like that is tantamount to 'not gonna make it'.
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>>3046790
>This board literally kills everything that makes me wanna draw and get better at it.

This isn't how you should use this board. It's all about being honest with yourself. When you are coming here for a laugh, say to yourself "I'm not coming here to learn, I've earned myself some quality shitposting time".
When you're coming here to learn, say to yourself "I'm here to find something about X or Y" and keep your words. See any thread? Ask yourself "would opening it helps with X and Y?" and Hide it.

> Did Picasso's father ghost paint Guernica, Hide
> I don't get why my Shad threads keep being deleted, Hide
> I just found a new vidya explaing Y, open thread and read

That's it. That's all you have to do. You're the master of your own body, and you're here on a mission.

I've never drawn before. Do I have potential to be atleast decent if I draw for ~6 hrs a day?
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>>3046647
Don't bother asking here before you get shit on. If you keep trying everyday then one day you might be able to draw what you want to draw.
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>>3046652
Like I said before
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>>3046647
You fucked up the grip, it's almost nonexistent.

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I don't like animating but I like the dynamic movement that animators seem to possess. Do you think I'll be able to gain that by doing "animation" on paper like in the example I posted or will I be missing out on some drawing skills by not animating.
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>>3044807
If they didn't want porn of her why did they make her skirt so damn short
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>>3044807
Can we post some more of these? I like this artist style and coloring
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I've been animating to get better at drawing.

You should definitely animate, straight ahead and no onion skin.

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Been training seriously like 6 hours a day since 2014. I just wanted to share this post as some kind of inspiration. I know there are a lot of artists on here like NoseBro who hardly make any progress and that can be discouraging to others but hopefully we can share progress of other artists like myself, firez, choob who are inspiring to noobs.
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Pretty disappointing progress for so many hours, anon
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>>3041964
Is that your best piece? Damn dude.
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>>3041965
What do you mean, my progress is amazing. You're just mad, you're shit anon. >>3041966
It's not my best piece, it's just an improvement.

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Is Ruan Jia a very skilled artist, or just an autist who got good with rendering?
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>>3041659
>very skilled artist, or just an autist
it's the same thing.
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>>3041659
both
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Why is this same fucking picture posted everyday. I'm tired of this jewnosed, over rendered crap.

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Remeber when you got into an argument and anon was like

>"hur dur post your work"

Post your work nobody knows who you are irl!
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>>3037506
>nobody knows who you are irl!
You are:

>Name: Alexander
>"Lintire" on most sites, "GayMidgetPorn" on DA.
>23 year old Male in Australia.
>Self described "beta manchild rapist cuckhold"
>Embarrassingly low online following, considering you've been at it for a few years.
>Seemingly going nowhere in life

All publicly available information. You're not as anonymous as you think. Reverse image search is a hell of a thing.
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>>3037538
Fucking destroyed lmao
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Name: Jace Allen wallace
Occupation: God King

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How to draw Aztec patterns?
And more specifically this pattern?
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Are you fucking serious? You can't copy a simple pattern?
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>>3047446
Yes, I'm shit at drawing
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>>3047453
I'm honestly struggling to wrap my mind around this

This is the sort of shit you could give as an art class assignment to first graders and most of them would probably ace it

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Is there anything I should fix with this?
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looks like doonesbury
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>>3047103
It looks flat
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>>3047103
Very well done

mind posting blog?

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How

The fuck

Do I SEE

All of the values in realistic textures blend together like a Rorschach test when I look at things

I see a billion different low opacity clouds of formless shades in a single square inch of skin, and it just doesn't form a discernible shape

All of the lights, the darks, the midtones, they're all a total cacophony of indistinguishable chaos

My kingdom for a way to SEE
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>>3046905
Here's this thing, you shouldn't draw what you see.
You should simplify the object you see into boxes and draw based on that. This will allow you to easily place the shadows.

When you rely purely on mindless observation, you confuse the halftones, the shadows and reflected light, and you lose the overall form in the drawing.
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>>3046905
Have you tried using only black and white photos? I would suggest you isolate values first by using B&W references, because color can make it harder.

Like the other anon said, think of your forms as very simplified.
For example, take that hand on the right, and look there at the back of it, where the tendons are.
Now, if the "main body" of the hand was a box, then the back of the hand is one plane of the box, right? Those tendons and bumps get flattened. At its simplest, that plane will be one value. And what value would that single plane be, if you could only choose light and shadow? It seems like it's not quite in the light, so it would be shadow.

Another tip on references: That particular picture is lit in a studio so the light is a bit indistinct. White light coming from all around.
When first learning values, I might suggest using references which are lit by the sun, on a day with clear skies. Then you have one main light source with a distinct direction and you've got sharp, contrasting shadows (no clouds diffusing light)
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>>3046926
nonononononononono, no! no! you should draw what you see, its a skill so you get better at it if you do it more. try this, stare closely at a blank paper, if you see little shapes form from the texture of the paper draw them.

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how do you separate the artistic from the sexual?

>try to use references for anatomy
>draw for 10 minutes
>get horny
>spend the next hour fapping
>repeat

is this what the old masters went through?
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>>3045073
I don't think you can, at least not consciously. Maybe if you drew for 30 minutes then fapped for 30 you would mind less because of faster progress.
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>>3045073

The old masters used to fuck their muse on the posing couch because they didn't use photo refs like a bitch
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you'll stop feeling this way when you turn 16

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This is what progress looks like for the average hard working artist. Yes, this artist studies their fundamentals, yes this artist draws like 3 hours a day, yes this artist does imagination work and application blah blah blah but this is the general progress level of a self taught artist.

It's ridiculous that /ic/ thinks you can go from a /beg/ tier to pro level in a year or two.

>B-but vetyr

Yeah, vetyr is talented. She draws like 4 hours a day, plenty of artists draw more than that and still make nowhere near that amount of progress

>b-but 1 year feng zhu academy progress

For one thing, I'm pretty sure feng zhu is cherry picking. Second, those artists are literally drawing 12 hours a day and getting PRO level feedback on a consistent. And even with all that work, they are very limited in what they can do. For the most part, the only thing that really improves is their rendering and perspective, the majority of them still have mediocre figure drawing/gesture/shape language skills.

It's like those losing weight commercials. "In 90 days, you'll go from a fat fuck who never exercised in his whole life to a having a body of an athlete" I'm sorry, life doesn't work like that. Art is hard as shit, it's not something you'll get good at because you decided to draw 16 hours a day for 1 year.
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>>3042659
>3 hours a day
NGMI
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>>3042659
>3 hours a day
Lol
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>>3042659
>3 hours a day
Sad

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Draw a full female body, front, side, and back from imagination. Do not ignore hands or feet. GO
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fuck you, buddy
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>>3027078
Why did you replace your shitty drawing with an emoji?
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Concept Design Academy, Brainstorm School, Syn Studio or Safehouse Atelier? Any first hand experience with them or heard anything useful about them?
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