IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint
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TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
OLD THREAD: >>3058734
Feng Zhu said that you should study as much as possible but in the end is he right? Human brain can focus 100% on anything for 2, maybe 3 hours max, after that it all diminishes to the point you are struggling with understanding even simple stuff.
So what's the appeal of studying 16 hours? You won't take much from it, what's the deal?
>>3059527
You cant trust what asians say
Those people are more ants than humans
>>3059527
you can take breaks? 16 hours doesnt mean 16 hours straight, unless you are asian of course.
>>3059527
>Human brain can focus 100% on anything for 2, maybe 3 hours max
Medicine students studying for 6 hours straight in a day isn't unheard of, actually, but they get there through a harsh discipline.
There's learning a new concept (you need to understand it), and there's internalizing it through exercises and tests (you gain the ability to apply it and remember it). Then there's mindless grinding, but cramming is proven as being counterproductive for long term goals: basically you could learn hundred of bones and muscles in a short period of time and you'll have them forgotten in less than it took you to learn them all.
Could you show us his exact quote? He's a teacher, I'm giving him credits on knowing about this stuff (at least way more than I), there must be more meaning here than just studying all the time.
>if you recognise your art has flaws that means you're actually improving and will get past that stage soon!
>2 years later
>still at that stage
how do i leave the mediocrity stage
How old are you anon?
>>3062874
Have you only been drawing for 2 years? Because that feeling never goes away.
He's got a point. You will always see the flaws and want to improve. Always. The question is have you simply not improved over the two years? At all?
Any good art communities actually conducive to improving/learning? Unlike /ic/.
>>3062832
lets make one
>>3062832
https://discord.gg/9Apvbx8
My wife uses Van Gogh watercolor paints in what I think is a really strange way. She squeezes some paint from the tube, lets it dry on the palette for 48 hours, and then uses a wet brush to paint with it.
I've certainly seen lots of information about reusing dry watercolor paint, but I've never encountered anyone intentionally waiting or the paint to dry before starting to use it. She says this is the way to get the right consistency. Waiting two days sounds like a huge pain.
Has anyone else encountered this?
i have a butcher tray that i put gouache on to use like watercolor pans after it dries onto it from whatever i was using the paint for originally for practicing washes and stuff to conserve and make use of all the paint left over ( when you use it fresh out of the tube i know its better ) and i always keep my koi watercolor box paint dry so that i can limit the moisture by using water brushes and it makes dry brushing easier. so maybe thats what she means . she can control the consistency of the paint from watery to nearly completely dry.
People usually do that when they want to paint outdoors/while travelling to not make a mess.
I find it makes it hard to get a good range of values like that though, painting from dry paint tends to look dulled out.
Yeah that's how a lot of the pros do it. it makes your paint last longer, but it makes it easy to adulterate some colors, esp. yellow
Let the feels pour out.
Just found out an art friend of mine traces. I was so confused that they could draw incredible digital paintings but their traditional was a step down from Disney sequel. I feel betrayed.
post their work
>>3061944
I haven't yet found where he got the original but here you go
>>3062028
is that prokos head on spacemarines body killing that shitty drawing that proko did? LOL
reddit's idea of good art
"so talented"
>>3061628
Why don't you just make a ribbit account and drown in those sweet, sweet upvotes then?
>>3061636
lol
fucking who goes to reddit anyway
>>3061648
Apparently OP
does anyone know where i can find brushes that look pic related? i'm obsesssed with the poreceline doll look and hazy aesthetic, but i'm having trouble finding similar artists to rip brushes from https://www.poocg.com/works/view/805568
soft air brush?
>>3060198
90% soft round brush, 10% flat brush.
Reminder that if you cant draw from imagination youre not a real artist, youre a fake, a fraud.
today on: "objectively wrong"
No that just makes you very unimaginative.
>>3062876
Youre not genuine if you cant come up with your own idea or style, copying things from the internet and rl is not very artistic.
Also
> implying you are one if you are unimaginative
Is it possible to be a good artist and also be happy?
>>3062776
You can be happy whether you're a good or bad artist.
>>3062776
fuck yea. i love looking at my finished paintings. it's pure joy. it took 12 years to get there....
it's worth it anon.
Does studying other artists work really that important? I was always against copying everything except life, because I saw no real value in it. I have been thinking about it and I want to improve in any possible way, so... tell me /ic/, do you do studies of others' work and do you see it worthy your time? And I mean really worth it, like you actually have that eureka moment
>>3062701
Well, drawing is always a good thing. But how good you want it to be depends on you.
Studying a work does not necessarily mean that you are copying it. Try to figure out how the artist was thinking when they made the piece and walk in their footsteps. Or if it's a certain style you are after, try to figure out what that style is based in and how to emulate (not copy) it properly.
Or just plain copy it. Although that sounds boring as fuck.
It's up to you what you want to do with it. Try to imagine what would give you the most gains and go with that.
>>3062791
Yeah, this.
>>3062701
It's good to be constantly humbled and influenced by what other people are doing. You should see paintings and work that makes you think, 'That. That's everything I want to be like'. You don't exist in a vacuum with no cultural history. Personally, I love that people are so much more skilled, wise, and elegant than me at art because it gives me something divine to aspire to (and ideas as well).
How can draw it? If you can pls draw help me
>>3060701
Values.
Darker ones
>>3060701
First learn English
what do you think lay down some hard critiques i can handle it
Its got a real MTV or Mike Judge sort of feel. If you were not going for that edgy style, well you could be a mess. that being said, I dig it. It's a little lowbrow but fuck do I enjoy it. Nice work and keep going.
I made this.
What does /ic/ think?
>>3059721
thank man, should i post more?
it's not resized
Can someone give advices of how to take care of you back? Do i have to exercise some specific muscles like the butt and legs to not worry about back issues in the future? My back hurts so much while drawing and i'm worried about not making it because of that.
>>3058383
Deadlifts
>>3058383
exercising your back doesn't hurt but also making sure you have proper drawing setups so that you are not straining your back unnecessarily will go a lot further in preventing back pain. here are some recommendations:
>proper drawing table
get yourself a proper drawing table. a table with an adjustable angle is best, that way you can find that sweet spot of "great angle for drawing + won't strain your back"
>get a goddamn chair
i know we are all poor and it's hard to justify spending money on a nice chair when any surface will do to sit on. but this is your back and your ability to draw for long periods of time that we are talking about here. invest in your back, invest in your work.
alternatively:
buy a large yoga/exercise ball and use it as a chair. they are cheap, and a 70 mm one works as a good height for sitting. it forces you to maintain a good posture and at the same time it does little mini exercises for your back and stomach, the entire time you are sitting on it. this is what I use.
>if you are working detail, get a magnifying glass
without knowing what kind of scale you are working on, this recommendation may not be necessary. but if you are working on a small scale or if your surface is far away from your face, get a magnifying glass with an adjustable arm so that you don't have to bend your back.
>>3058404
Alright, i'm gonna put in practice some of your advices. Thank you.