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Go to /gd/ and /r/. /ic/ isn't really big on typography

There are two different typefaces in this picture, OP

>>2382692
Bottom is arial, the shit version of helvetica.

Don't know what the top is but you can poke around here until you find something like it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samples_of_serif_typefaces

ohhh

>>2381427
Looks like a piece of undercooked bacon.

>>2381428
>>2381436
this isnt very helpful

>>2381272

Loomis head and hands book.

>>2381274
Thank you.

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learn what the body is made out of and how to construct it in 3d space, learn how light interacts with hair,skin, cloth etc.

find a medium you like to work with and learn how to use it effectively.

draw as often as your schedule & willpower will allow

What is there to discuss? It's bad.

>>2382454
Oh wow namefag u r sooooo good at art, and your name is sugoi kawaii!

THANK YOU

There is this secret called practice. Do it 8 hours a day and you'll be the smoothest fucker in town.

>>2382082
i've heard improving your handwriting is a good way to improve penmanship.

>>2382082
Stick to fine liners before going to dip pens. 0.5 0.1 only pens you need. There's basic rules repeated in every tutorial this one covers them all https://youtu.be/x0zl5NnEAyU

>>2380755

Still better than 80% of /ic/ who draws manga here.

>>2380755
>Was he always so bad?

He's not necessarily that bad but he stagnated a long time ago and hasn't improved in years. So as you grow you're going to notice how stale his work is since there's no improvement.

>>2380755
He literally cannot draw anything without a reference.

>>2380534
Loomis is supposed to be a simple introduction for all the topics he covers. If you think it would be wise for a beginner to to jump right in to bridgman and hogarth, then you've never read either of them

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>>2380553
Notice how the order of recommendations went from fundamentals to basic construction, to figure drawing. Bridgman and Hogarth are not what I recommended for fundamentals, so who didn't read what?

>>2380534

> Get the Scott Robertson and Feng Zhu Gnomon dvds

Which ones?

>>2379369
take a look at some deadspace concept artwork. there are some fantadtic examples. the team even went as far as visiting butchers to refernce fresh/and bad meat etc.

>>2379369
You study meat, google rotten meat and normal meat and do value studies of it.
Some food studies might help too, remember is all rendering.

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>>2379380
>>2379385

So how would I go about deliberately designing monsters, then? Even though the best examples seem organic, there has to be some kind of underlying design philosophy for what is terrifying.

If you meant for him to look all fucked up and weird with a skin condition then you did an OK job. If you didn't it's shit keep trying.

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>>2378075
Looks like shit. Lacks foundation.

I just ask my friends, or girls want to model for me, but this is because i am a photographer but i also ask if i can live paint using them as models they usually say yes.

Other than that just ask friends and have a good portafolio they would probably model for free if your good.

If you don't have any friends, you can contact your local life drawing classes (Google : cityname + life drawing) and ask if they can put you in touch with their models.
If you're a cheap asshole, use model mayhem. Be prepared for egotistical teenagers.

>>2382437
>use model mayhem. Be prepared for egotistical teenagers.
yeah that's pretty much the impression i got from the 2 seconds of browsing. a lot of "trying to get my modelling career starting hope you make me famous you fucking ass hole"

Bargue plate drawing is THE exercise for improving measuring skill

>>2382185
>Bargue plate drawing
Can you link this? I dont think I understand exactly what are you referring to

>>2382233
Go into your favorite search engine and search "Bargue plate"

>>2365766
/ic/ doesn't count for shit bro, this board is full of teenagers who are weaning themselves off of anime as they dream of becoming MtG card illustrators once they're out of high school.

generally speaking /ic/ has no appreciation for modern or post-modern art, and has 0 appreciation for art history. you honestly will have much better luck on the art history subreddit.

>>2365766
Define "contemporary" art.

>>2365846
Generalization bruh, there are some non illustrators here, I'm trying to get my fine arts on, taking some courses at the Uni painting and reading studies on the side attending receptions discovering the contemporary in my local context. Don't write off ic

Anyway, my issue is these 400level courses relate to art at a higher non medium specific level. Have any texts or artists / resources you can drop in regard to painting?

I've been digging the screen works of Dave Stonhouse as of late, fucker has like 30 of these bitches done. Was just on exhibit at PAVEsD in Saskatoon here.

literally the best thread on here and nobody gives a fuck

fuck you cancerous swine

>>2382144
what are we supposed to say? Are we just going to discuss that there is a hyper cube in front of us?

>>2376044
>Does it mean telling someone they suck,
Yes. Look, I know it's not nice, but the foundation of criticism is pointing out flaws. "It sucks" isn't great criticism by any measure, but sometimes there's little else to same. What do you say when everything is wrong? And some people just need to be told their work is bad to break through their ego and give them the kick in the ass to work on their art. Some people need that harshness, and this is 4chan, the perfect environment for it.
>their art is garbage, that they should give up?
Obviously this is in no way constructive. The thing about sucking...everyone sucks at some point. Sucking at something is the starting place, but telling someone to give up isn't constructive. You can't get good at anything if you give up.
>Does it mean telling someone what areas they need to work on, and possibly how to go about it?
This is the best way to go about it.
>But if it's a beginning artist (or even an advanced artist) and they're asking for advice, crits, what looks off, don't tell them it sucks and nothing else. Don't tell them to brush up on fundamentals without explaining what part of the drawing makes you say that (is the head mis-shapen? figures too flat? Etc).
Ok. What do you say when everything is wrong? This is why Loomis became such a catch-all response, it's far, far easier than typing out a detailed response about why everything is wrong(especially when newbies are so common). And it can be really, really discouraging to anyone new to the hobby to get some essay length criticism about how everything they're doing is wrong. Loomis is a pretty shitty response, but at least it gives a direction and the implied criticism that comes with it - "Your fundamentals are bad."

>>2376062
While I agree that sometimes people's egos are a little too inflated and need to be taken down, I see it said to absolute beginners who aren't confident in their skills and just want some genuine feedback on if they're on the right path or not. While I'm sure you, anon, would give a bit more help than just "It sucks." I see a lot of comments that are literally the insult and nothing else. No encouragement to start over, no push towards fundamentals, just an insult and that's it, and for fleding artists that's a little harsh when they don't deserve it y'know?
When everything is wrong it's still better to say "Everything is off, work on your fundamentals" not, literally only "Loomis." It's an /ic/ meme at this point so many don't take a single word response very seriously and try it out. I understand your point of view on it and I agree that it's quicker, and more concise but it still doesn't really give much feedback.


I'll drop it on the "Loomis" response however as I do see your point and it isn't really that harmful unlike some of the other comments.

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>>2376044
I'm going to be a little blunt on this, but I only accept constructive criticism from someone at my level or higher, or someone that really really knows the subject at hand by backing what he says with precision.

I already know what people say to this, "but you don't need to draw well to give good criticism" and that's maybe true, but it's something I just don't accept on principle, I will always value the better artist's view than the shitty stickman drawing guy. If I want an advice on a certain car maneuverability, I will take the driver's advice over the guy that doesn't drive but knows his stuff about cars.

>>2376366
This is what I truly can't understand on /ic/ though, artists shitting on each other when we are so few, instead of helping each other and growing together, and don't tell me this is some Utopian power of friendship bullshit. This attitude is just bringing /ic/ down, there's around 4, maybe 5 good artists here, and there's shitpost everytime they show their work.

same for Firez, I mean the dude is just trying to improve, and there's constant trolling and shitstorms at every post he does. I just don't understand it, the guy is doing the same thing you do, like art the same way you do, why try to bring him down ? this is why many of the good artists leave, and the upcoming artists from here will leave too, or at least lurk only.

I keep my old sketchbooks around BECAUSE they are so disgusting

Anytime I feel like what I just drew was total shit I go to look at my drawings from months ago and I am immediately assuaged

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>>2356555
>Spending hours trying to problem solve a pose from imagination using what you've learned from life and study material.

There's nothing quite like the feeling you get when you solve it and get a sense of personal accomplishment.

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>Only motivation for drawing is being horny

Really?