I was looking through my medieval art folder and I realized that I actually have a pretty scant amount of art from the Middle Ages besides the Codex Manesse. So, art thread of stuff actually painted/drawn/engraved from the Middle Ages anyone?
Don't you fucking die on me now.
You die when you have my permission to die.
There are all kinds of medieval art on the internet. A lot has been uploaded by the Historical Fencing community, often taken from medieval and early modern fencing treatises and manuals.
One of many scenes of jolly skeletons from the Heidelberger Totentanz. (Dance of death / danse macabre)
BL, Harley 4431, fol. 134v, some works of Christine de Pizan. Supposed to be showing the nymph Daphne.
P.S., I prefer medieval 3D works. Any interest? Or are these all becoming wallpapers?
14th century german tapestry
I've been doing some work (loosely) with wild men lately. I find them endearing, though wild women are interesting in their own right. This is perhaps late for 'medieval' (c. 1500). A tapestry in the Basel Historical Museum.
Gotta get that Christ Pantocrator in here, if we're going Byzantine. This one's from Daphne.
But really, that's a sweeping generalization for 1000 years of art. The emphasis for much of that time is on meaning and the mental connections art evokes, not some Classical mimesis nonsense.
If you can't separate beauty from realizm, try some late medieval sculpture. Rheims has some lovely works.
The Bamberg Rider is rather nice, too.
Dude, I spent a decent chunk of time hunting the source if this thing down. It's from Cod. Bodmer 49, a copy of Christine de Pizan's Epitre d'Othea. And it's fucking great.
Les Grandes Heures du Duc de Berry
Or in its less pompous form, Les Grandes Heures de Jean de France, duc de Berry
Published in the early 15th century, it's kept at the Metropolitan Museum of Art for curious amerifags
>it's kept at the Metropolitan Museum of Art for curious amerifags
Right, it's there just for novelty, not because some Americans had the sense to preserve medieval history rather than paint over it or cut it up, like many other manuscripts.
Also, here's a dick pic from the same Heures for fun. Bottom left corner.
The point of art is different then. With the Renaissance, the more classical point of art returned. But the Orthodox Church still employs Medieval style art because their art doesn't have the same point as modernist art.
Pic related, a painter and the work he did for an Orthodox parish.
Death to the beggar
Hobble over here with your crutches;
Your things will succeed now.
The living [people] don't like you;
Death will show you special mercy.
A poor beggar here in life;
No one at all is a friend,
but Death will be his friend.
He takes the poor away [along] with the rich.
Medieval art is like MS Paint comics meets Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
I personally like this one, quite a lot of detail in the face (you can see his stubble) and the clothing itself. Also quite interesting is the landscape with water reflections and perspective and all.
Yeah the color is a little brown on the one I posted but it's higher res.
Hmm it was being ravaged by the Hundred years war for a large part of the late middle ages.
I reckon 15th century Burgundy was better for the average joe.
Late medieval is 1300-1500 in my book. But if you meant France under Phillip Auguste or Phillip the fair the absolutely, they were riding an agricultural grain boom.
>feminism invented women's education
>medieval women lived encloistered at castles or convents
Yes. Bored monks had nothing better to do than draw trees of dicks.
Castle interior as it looked like when they weren't ruins.
>Having a king that's actually mad that kills people and thinks he is made of glass
>Having the English ravage the entire country
>Having two rival houses (Armagnac and Burgundy) tear up the country in a civil war next to all that
>Having the Burgundian ally with England in an infernal pact
Has France ever been more fucked than this?
The only reason Germany was kicked out of France so fast was that D-day was a great success supposedly by accident.
The Allies embarked on the wrong beach according to their own intelligence and the Germans were expecting them somewhere else entierly according to their intelligence as well.
Either the Allies were shrewd as fuck or lucky as fuck.
Yeah that's a good one but not strictly limited to France.
During some years of the 100 years war they had bandit/mercenary groups of 1000 strong or stronger besiege cities, entire swaths of countryside were burned to the ground.
Can anyone more versed in art history answer a question for me? This piece in particular, depicting Ulrich von Lichtenstein and his head. I'm much more of an arms and armor guy, and I know that extremely elaborate head crests existed for tournament and parade wear made from basically paper mache and wood. My first instinct is that this woman is one such crest, possibly exaggerated. However, recently one of my professors claimed that this is actually symbolic and that it represents that the love of a lady was what he is thinking of. She's literally on his mind. I love this professor because she's basically an old German grandmother, but she's also blatantly wrong about a lot of medieval stuff because her focus is on the unification of Germany onward, she's getting pretty up there in years, and I think a lot of her medieval education comes from an overly romanticized classroom from the 1930's in Germany. Is she correct here, or am I right in taking a more literal interpretation?
It was a disguise. "A reference to the main narrative of the Frauendienst in which the poet, diguised as Venus, emerges from the sea at Venice to undertake a knightly expedetion." According to Michael Camille, anyway.
God bless those germanic grandmother professors. I've had a few, but they're always so damn unreliable.
Have you looked up the history of Ulrich von Liechtenstein? I'm not an expert, so you might want to look more deeply into it, but Ulrich wrote an autobiographic (to which extent this is true to life is obviously rather questionable) work called "Frauendienst" where he dressed up as Lady Venus (likely depicted with a love arrow here) and challenged other knights in a tournament wearing drag.
Given the iconic and abstract nature of these depictions it is likely that depicting him wearing actual drag would have been rather confusing, so he's depicted wearing the insignia which gives him away as a tournament knight, but the artist put this particularly elaborate crest on top to remind people that he would actually have looked kinda like that.
are Persian miniatures ok?
art in the middle ages just wasn't that concerned with individual facial expressions. Their art was conceptual and iconic, related to the platonic idealism you see in Byzantine art.