rules draft.

delete 5
ban dubs

Hiro pls

>>3419
Please Hiro delete the flags.

>>3419
Allow humanities discussion on /lit/ when a relevant book is posted.

Also delete flags and IDs.

>>3419
Remove flags and IDs.

>>3419
are you fucking kidding me?

You are going ask the fucking rabble what the rules should be?

>>3419
Remove IDs

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:27:28 Post No.3528
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>>3474
flags will be disable by default.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:27:51 Post No.3541
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>>3477
You don't need IDs?

Delete this board please, it's just been a disaster since the start.

>>3528
Thank you.

Why do people want flags and post ID's disabled? Especially ID's? What's wrong with ID's? It helps avoid samefagging.

This isn't /int/, Hiro.

Please remove flags and IDs.

/his/ hasn't done anything wrong, flags and IDs are only on /pol/ as punishment.

>>3419
Please delete flags, this will only detract from discussion and cause more shitposting.

>>3419
can we ban holocaust discussion or at least keep ww2 discussion to one thread because oh my god fuck /pol/

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:28:37 Post No.3574
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>>3542
Why do you think so?

>>3419
>religion
Does this mean religion won't be allowed on /pol/ any more? Please say that's how it is.

Hiro, why not 20 years as the cut-off?
That way we can talk about the fall of the Soviet Union and the Yugoslav war

>>3541
ID's will only cause trouble.

Delete them

>>3419
delete flags, IDs can stay

>>3541
Hiroyuki, there is no good argument against Posting ID's. I say you keep them.

>>3574
Don't listen to him. Boards are always low quality when they're first started. It settles itself out after a few days.

>>3542
Yeah, because it started less than an hour ago without rules. The mods are already starting to sort thing out, it will be fine.

>>3419
Hiroyuki, please remove flags from /his/. It adds nothing to discussion and blocks up threads with overused memes. Every time a user of a certain nationality posts, there'll always be a flood of tired stock responses from /pol/tards; shit like "INDIA? LOL POO IN THE LOO", "SWEDEN?? HAHA U LIKE BLACK MAN PENIS", "AMERICAN? MORE LIKE AMERIFAT", "HEHEH UR GREEK, PAY DEMBTS xd"

If you don't want /his/ to become /pol/ 2.0, get rid of flags.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:29:32 Post No.3609
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>>3563
Why do you think ID as punishment?

Stop asking us for input about the rules. You should decide them. If you don't want to decide them, then let the mods decide them. Fuck.

>>3592
This, keep them.

Delete this board, the only people who actually wanted it are shitposters

>>3542
Boards will always get an immense amount of shitposting when they get created.
Are you new? Even if you're post-2012, there has been the creation of /biz/ and /s4s/.

>>3541
Make flags optional, delete ID's

>/lit/ is finally saved from Christposting

>>3584
>>3574
This

>>3419
Why 25 years? Why not 15?

Best board desu senpai.

No porn or nudity on this board.

>>3419
>blatantly racist posts may result in a ban
VERY bad idea, trying to make history not racist is just lying

>>3541
For now you can remove IDs, in the future we can decide if there's a need for them.

Pretty fucking good

>>3419
The rules look good but the flags and IDs really need to go
Please Hiro

Delete /pol/ now too

Have you seen the mass shootings/sword stabbings lately? All pure cancer toxic /pol/ scum spawn, delete the board for humanity's sake

>>3542
what does that accomplish?
There's no point in not keeping this place up.

Do not remove posting ID's, there is literally no reason for this.

If anything, Posting ID's is a great way to curbstomp /pol/-posting

Remove the 25 year thing

Make it more like 10 years

Also allow us for some citation shit, to cite our sources etc.

Also ban eternal anglo >>445

>>3541
Why should we have IDs on /his/ and not every single other board? Why does /his/ specifically need IDs?

This isn't what 4chan was originally about, no board should have IDs. Everyone should be completely anonymous (on the front-end at least).

>>3528
So no selectable historical flags?

>>3648
No, it's the perfect idea to keep /pol/ and stormfront out.

>>3643
What about nude historical artwork?

what the fuck is this shit?

Hiro did you even go over this with your mods? Why are you even listening to the users? This isn't japan, nobody here likes eachother and there are dedicated groups of people who just want to ruin the site for everybody else.

>>3419
ypu motherfucker why did you remove desu senpai
fucking japan hitler kek
i hope you burn in hell

>>3584
This

>>3541
Deleting flags are a good idea but for the sake of maintaining civility in serious threads, keep IDs to prevent samefagging and shitposting. You only need to go to /int/ or /pol/ to see how detrimental flags are to a discussion - thread IDs on the other hand are useful to filter out idiots who can't argue in a civilized manner.

>>3674
spooky skelly detected

I think generals should be allowed. This would prevent the whole board from turning into a cespool of "Why did Rome fall? Was Rome the perfect society? etc."

Other than that I'm really happy we finally have a /his/

Hiro can you ban the "We wuz kings and queens" threads and other /pol/ tier shit

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>>3643
Except for art

SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME TWO GOOD REASONS ON WHY ID'S ARE BAD FOR THIS BOARD.

>>3419
>4. Please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago.
Meh. This will be like /vr/ when entire threads are just about banning/allowing certain things

Keep flags, get rid of IDs.

I don't want to be indoctrinated by some Iranian or Israeli or some uneducated American opinion. Flags are the best filter.

>>3670
IDs on more discussion-heavy boards prevent shitters from samefagging.

>>3648
there's "I can find limited success in countries in western africa"
and then there's "duhhh niggers xD"
one of which should be acceptable, the other can fuck off to /pol/

>Humanities

Is it really necessary?

>>3419
remove flags and IDs

Please for the love of god remove skeletons.

>>3705
Those threads are already getting taken care of, m8

>>3675
>>3707
I guess that is fine

>>3643
Where else will I get my vintage porn fix?

delet ID's

do not allow generals like /brit/

MAKE /2d/ - 2D/Random
MAKE /2d/ - 2D/Random
MAKE /2d/ - 2D/Random
MAKE /2d/ - 2D/Random
MAKE /2d/ - 2D/Random

>>3528
Will flags be selectable?

>>3739
It's just for Halloween anon.

>>3574
Hiro you created this board with no rules to start at all!

how do you see this is not a disaster?

>>3609
Other boards don't have them why does /his/ need them? /pol/ got theirs because of punishment and the idea of IDs on an anonymous image board is awful. Don't punish /his/ right from the start.

>>3659
you do realize if /pol/ is deleted they will just jump to other boards
/pol/ is a perfect containment board

Please don't delete flags, make the optional.

There have now been like 50 posts crying about ID's, yet no reasons as to WHY the ID's should be removed have been given.

Well?

>>3724
>omg the n-word

Holy shit, how new are you?

>>3419
Get rid of IP based flags and allow flags to be chosen / get rid of flags all together. In a perfect world I would like flags based on IP to exist but there is too much shitposting. Keep ID's though to prevent samefagging.

>>3667
20 years is a better cut-off, desu senpai. 10 years ago would mean that the Iraq war is up for discussion. 20 years ago gets rid of all that shit, and it also allows for discussion of the Yugoslav Wars and the fall of the Soviet Union.

>>3685
>croatia being a normalfag shitter

who could have guessed

>>3779
That's how all boards start.

>>3419
>2. Discussions about books, poetry, and other forms of literature should be posted on /lit/.

Can we share books with each other that are about history? I was going to start up a thread later today or tomorrow where I'll post a bunch of history-related books.

>>3718
That's literally like going to a normal forum. There is a reason posters should be anonymous: so that you dont know anything about them

>>3419

The whole "less than 25 years ago" thing makes sense, but things like Afghanistan/Iraq and Yugoslav Wars can produce decent historical discussion, even if many their effects can be considered "recent" or contemporary. I don't see why it should be against the rules to discuss them provided it's done as history and not politics.

Also, I don't think generals should be allowed unless they're broad subjects such as ancient/medieval/renaissance/modern or even centuries, things like WW2 and anything else are just really narrow and overstudied areas that very little actual decent discussion can take place on; it would at best be a bunch of amateur repeated opinions with the occasional decent discussion, and at worst it would be memes and histposting.

When the board is a bit less chaotic and people learn how to have normal debates with each-other the rules could perhaps be laxed even more, but for now I think aside from what I've said, the ones listed are okay.

>>3783
>/pol/ is a perfect containment board

Look at /int/ and this board. I don't want it to be banned, but it really is not

>>3791
They prioritize identity over content you filthy Portuguese shitskin.

>>3609
Hiro remove flags

Get some actual help and STOP LISTENING TO RANDOM POSTERS

GO GET REAL HELP FROM MODS

>>3648
>>3675
These kinds of things should be up to the discretion of rational mods. If something is an obvious shitpost and it violates a rule, then mods should delete it. But, if racism and historical nudity are used reasonably and relevantly, then they should be allowed to stay.

What do you think, Hiro?

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:34:19 Post No.3843
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>>3584
Excluding Persian gulf and Iraq war is better, I think.
It would become modern topics.

>>3745
Good

>>3792
Saying the word "nigger" over and over again is just childish and stupid. We don't need that here.

IMO obvious revisionist history threads, if they are not just deleted on-sight (they should be imo) should have multiple citations in the OP.

That would show whether the OP had interesting evidence to his claims, or is an idiot buying into fake sites / data thus could be debunked or safely ignored (preferably deleted), or is a kid/jokester who has no idea what he's doing.

Compared to the entire body of history, there are only a few events which get tons of revisionist attempts so I think it would not be that hard to control/enforce.

Hiro, I agree with everyone saying to remove flags altogether and making the cut off point 20 years instead of 10.

>>3755
/jp/ is the board you're looking for

>>3792
Nobody cares about saying niggers.

If "duhh niggers" is all you have to add to the conversation, you'd probably best fuck off to /pol/

no flags senpai

theyre funny on a shitposting board like int but flags guarentee 200% more shitposting

>>3528
Can we have the optional historical flags like in the other thread? /pol/ used to have an optional flag system, so it should be written down somewhere how to have it done

>>3798
>selectable flags
this, desu
/qa/ has been making some historcial flags over at >>/qa/314081

>>3849
>childish and stupid
Isn't reacting to it more childish and stupid?

I think you should more clearly define what is and isn't racism, Hiro. Historical discussions require peoples alternating viewpoints, and an outright general ban would lead to too much confusion.

>>3808
I would love that, please make that thread anon.
And Hiro don't ban history books on a history board.

We should have a sticky with books for news

>>3843
Persian Gulf and Iraq War are still excluded if you drop from it from 25 years to 20, Hiroyuki.

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>>3419
>3. Discussions about politics and current events should be posted on /pol/. Global Rule #3 is in effect: blatantly racist posts may result in a ban.
I disagree with this. History can often be racist, from a certain point of view. The rule should be clarified to target posts of low quality rather than opinion.

I would prefer if we couldn't discuss after 1945. It's a better cut in history.

>>3843
Yeah but about topics which began ages ago but only ended recently, like Northern Ireland's troubles which lastest from 1960's to 1998? Are topics like that up for discussion?

>>3858
Fuck off.

>>3710
>they're an eyesore with their stupid colors
>old 4chan didn't need them, they're reserved for punishments for shit boards like /b/ and /pol/

Plus, I just generally don't like them

>>3791
Because this is an anonymous image board.

Because if we should not be punished on the outset for posting on this board even though the board culture has not formed yet.

Because intelligently-crafted arguments should be all that a post's quality is based on.

>>3858
there's nothing random about eternal generals and non-touhou threads outside of those getting deleted

>>3731
Yes

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:35:42 Post No.3913
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>>3584
>fall of the Soviet Union
I think it's okay.
deciding how to count is difficult.

>>3574
Hiro, could you please include selectable historical flags?

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>>3722
Why not enable them on /vg/, /tg/, etc.?

They're discussion-heavy boards.

>>3609
moot enabled them to mess with /pol/ before he left.

A lot of people thought it had something to do with Ben Garrison and this caricature.

>>3574
chinkmoot you're a cute

>doesn't want us to be /pol/
>gives us IDs

I understand the flags but the IDs are a bit much

And yes, a flag "toggle" or something does definitely sound like a good idea, if possible.

>>3419
Good ideas, but philosophy should be allowed on both boards, as it's way more close to /lit/ than to history.
For instance, epistemology or psychoanalysis aren't really parts of the humanities.

>>3718
you do realize the hypocrisy in your post
anyways flags have to go, they're not suited for this board

>>3879
This is a serious board, not /pol/ or /b/. There is no reason for racism at all, now go back to /pol/.

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>>3874
>>>/qa/314081

ftfy

Risk threads with historical content should be allowed on the board.

>>3879
No? Fuck off. Dumb /pol/-tier racism belongs exclusively on /pol/, don't drag us down too.

>>3843
EXCLUDE WWII

>>3893
Nah m8, the Cold War is a (more or less) closed chapter of history that deserves to be discussed.

>>3913
Hiro, what do you think you're going to do with IDs?

I think you said the flags would go away but what about IDs?
I've seen a lot of people saying they're not the way to go

>>3541
Keep ID's for now.

Remove flags, they will only encourage shitposting.

>>3915
This

>>3915
they're enabled on constructive discussion-heavy boards, not general discussion boards.

>>3843

I really don't think excluding recent events will work unless they're contemporary or VERY recent - and even so, there's not a /news/ to cover this instead.

So long as it's historical discussion and not political, I don't see why it's an issue other than that things like the September 11th attacks and various recent news events produce a lot of shitposting and discussion that has no value.

>>3843
But the Gulf war was 25 years ago. You can already talk about them

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:37:17 Post No.3985
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>>3614
why you don't want to decide?

>>3913
This is why IDs shouldn't be on this board
>>3905

>>3474
Flags are necessary, as they allow you to recognize someone's possible bias.

>>3791
Anti ID is pro shitpost, anyone anti ID hasn't thought about their position/doesn't understand they are on a per thread basis/wants samefagging.

Samefagging is ok in some contexts, but /his/ should be for actual discussion and not total funzies.

>>3913
No disadvantage to cutting to 20 years, Hiroyuki. It gets all the good subjects and no bad ones.

>>3874
they are here too, i dumped them at >>99
some guys made new ones too

>>3913
I think for now we should set the collapse of the Soviet Union as the cut-off, so nothing later than 1991. Starting next year, set the cutoff to 25 years.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:37:45 Post No.4007
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>>3638
excluding modern US wars

>>3893
I dunno, the Cold War, the Great Leap Forward, the end of colonial Africa, the fall of the wall etc are extremely fucking interesting topics.

>>3437
טוב אחי

>>3913
[spoiler]are spoilers enabled on this board because they should be if not.[/spoiler]

>>3975
>they're enabled on constructive discussion-heavy boards
The only board that asked for them for "Discussion" was /biz/. Before then it was a punishment - /b/, /q/, and /pol/, and threatened on /v/

should non-fiction books about history be ok? I have a lot of great non-fiction history books that discuss some oddball historical topics and I'd love to have suggestion type threads..

>>3887
>I would love that, please make that thread anon.

I will, look for it! I'll link you to it from this thread, if this thread is still up.

>>3419
Good rules, but we need just need a lot of mods to deal with the nazi posters. I don't know if you've noticed it, but there are a lot of them and they're very brash.

>>3913
IMO it should be like this: Threads can be started for anything that happened before 2000's. However, if there are modern day connections that can be made to the topic, allow those. Example: A thread talking about Islam and the Middle East should be able to cite modern Islam and terrorism.

>>3939
That stuff should be kept to /tg/ IMO

>>3980
Agreed with this.

Im okay with a 20 years rule, though, as long as janitor just uses discretion.

>remove flags
>Make post timer like 2 fucking minutes so people actually have to put in thought to their posts and dont spam ebun memes

Just remove flags but keep ID's.
Also, this board can't work without heavy moderation, because there will be thousands of threads daily made by /pol/tards about how Jews in camps died from flu or something.
I'd just ban Holocaust discussion altogether.

>>3985
Look at this thread in /qa/ >>>/qa/314081
Could you add these historical flags?

>>3915
/vg/ argues about video games - that's a hobby where subjective tastes rule rather than historical fact. The need for quality control isn't the same.

>>3996
That's how they're supposed to work but it will only end in shitposting.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:38:54 Post No.4060
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>>3682
I asked mods, too.
I need information to choose something.

>>3913
How do you feel about limiting holocaust threads to 3? One for, one against, and one for debate.

Otherwise it's going to turn into a major board problem. It is history, and shouldn't be excluded, but we do need to limit it.

>>3541
Just keep both flags and ID's. Most importantly keep flags otherwise this board will be as boring as all the rest of them without flags.

>>3998
Wrong, it's about anonymity. Look at this thread and you can tell people will be ignored if they said "nigger" once half the thread ago. You don't want that.

>>4008
Discuss their effects on /pol/ or books covering them on /lit/.

>>4007
If you want to keep out the modern US wars we could just do anything before 9/11.

1. All stormfag/revisionist history needs to be cracked down upon hard.

2. Generals SHOULD be allowed to confine popular topics, such as Rome/Nazi Germany/etc.

3. Allow recommendations for nonfiction books on historical topics, or at least an essential reads containment thread.

>>3957
>/pol/-tier
You mean 4chan-tier?

>>3985
It's not about just me. I mean asking everybody to decide. People here don't know how to make good rules, and we're all anonymous and people just troll.

>>4007
what about other wars of significance? like the yugoslav shit?

>>4043
>muh freedom of speech

>>3985
Don't listen to him Hiro, it's good to ask for input. Just make sure not to follow random people's words blindly.

>>4042
>Make post timer like 2 fucking minutes so people actually have to put in thought to their posts and dont spam ebun memes


Reinforcing this.

Rule 4 is dumb. A lot of academic history articles are about shit that happened in the last 15 years

>>3985
Because so much opinions are being spewed in this thread.
You should make a Strawpoll or something to decide some things, for example flags/ids.

>>4016
It wasn't punishment, it was to enforce better discussion quality when the users clearly didn't want to cooperate.

>>3528
Thanks bhai.

>>4076
>1. All stormfag/revisionist history needs to be cracked down upon hard.
Why? Because you disagree with it?

>2. Generals SHOULD be allowed to confine popular topics, such as Rome/Nazi Germany/etc.
So a Nazi General will be allowed, but only anti-Nazis allowed to post, not pro-Nazi?

Hiro, I love you.
You are the saviour of 4chan.

>>4060
I think the rules are perfect, Hiro.

>>4007
How would you feel about selectable historical flags as opposed to an IP-based flag system? A polack has been dumping some possible options here >>99

>>4108
DESIGNATED

>>4096
HOLY SHIT YOU AGAIN

>>3812
>Yugoslav war
this will just be endless shitposting, not enough time has passed by for a quality discussion

>>4096
>make a strawpoll

Francis please it's time for bed

>>4007
I think wars that are done with, for example Iraq war, should be allowed for discussion.

I understand banning wars that are currently going on, but things that already happened are interesting and a good topic for discussion.

9/11 changed the world as we know it and we should be allowed to talk about it.

>>4061
>One for, one against, and one for debate.
Why, we only need the latter one.

>>3419
What about political history? British political history for example? I can't discuss that on /pol/. It's a fucking shithole.

>>3913
ID's are no good, they prioritize identity over content, let them go.

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>>4107
It was punishment for calling him a kek

>>3985
Because 90% of the people here are idiots!

To use popularity vote just means /pol/ 2.0

>>4096
>PK
fuck of you fucking faggot

>>4126
You can say that about any war.

>>4007
I think a strictly pre-2000 would be a fair cutoff. Most of the shit that was happening in the 90s had ended by then, like the Balkan Wars and the Troubles.

>>4124
This is an annoyingly solid argument against flags.

>>3792
There's nothing wrong with saying "nigger", although the fact is that the majority of people who say it are uneducated degenerates (this applies to both the black people and the non-black people who say it).

>>4060
i think it should be 15 years, cause i cant see anyone shitposting about the persian gulf war

i think a lot of interesting stuff to discuss happened in the 90s that would suck to cut off

>>4043
Don't ban discussion on the Holocaust, just ban blatant /pol/shitters

>>3791
because this is an anonymous imageboard and I choose to be anonymous

/film/ should really be your next project emperor

>>3419
>politics and current events should be posted on /pol/
maybe this is the wrong place. But I never got this.
isn't /pol/ short for politically incorrect. Is this to contain threads during events to just one board and keep them off of /int/

>blatantly racist posts may result in a ban
in the spirit of this website, I gotta object to this.
who decides what is blatantly racist? please remove this line. this will actually encourage a lot of racist shitposting and passive aggressive awfulness.


Also, this is your website. Just make the rules, and they'll get followed or not. But thanks for making us feel like our input matters.

Important poll.

http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754

>>3963
or you could have a world war 2 general instead ;)

>>4144
>455
all you need to know about British political history

Remove flags. They're so fucking irrelevant to the discussion. Just adds a layer of ego.

>>4096
-Users may not Posts from VPN, Proxies or TOR exit nodes

HIRO BAN THIS FAGGOT

MAKE HIM WASTE MONEY ON A VPN

>>3985
Better to have a single admin being responsible for the rules than a chaotic mob.

You can listen to us, but in the end it's up to you to make the final decisions.

>>4167
If you ban Holocaust discussion it will just creep into World War II threads.

>>4077
No, If you've ever been to other 4chan boards, they're not racist like /pol/ and /b/. /pol/ tries to insist that racism is a 4chan thing but that simply isn't the case.

>>4126

But that's not true, even if you look at the history focusing on the UN it is fascinating and totally worthwhile for discusison and debate.

What we need is decent and discrete mods that will keep history discussion alive and political discussion out.

>>4007
Exclude all modern anything!

>>4177
Keep ID's remove flags

your poll lacks options

>>4060
Will you disallow religion threads on /pol/ now that we have a humanities board?

>>4177
Where's the option to remove just flags?

>>4096
http://strawpoll.me/5886914
http://strawpoll.me/5886914
http://strawpoll.me/5886914
STRAWPOLL REGARDING FLAGS AND IDS HERE PEEPS :^)

>>4077
No, I mean /pol/-tier. There's a reason why we're all trying to get rid of /pol/ faggots from /his/, including the moderators. We don't want to deal with their faggotry.

It's like /b/, keep that shit contained, no one else in this site wants it.

>>4087
That's a bullshit argument, I'm not a Jew, I'm not offended, I'm just tired of retards shitting up every historical discussion with their dumb uneducated opinions and theories.
Holocaust is probably the most researched event of 20th century. Thousands and thousands of real historians from various cultures agree on most of the facts.
You have thousands of testimonies from every side.
Denying it happened is as dumb as denying 100 Years War happened.

>Please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago.

9/11fags BTFO

>>3592
>there is no good argument against Posting ID's
How about anonymity?
The unique IP counter is enough to discourage samefagging.

>>4177
what about just flags and no ids? or you can select your own historical flag or something

>>4174
>who decides what is blatantly racist?
It's basically to prevent /pol/ from making "there was nothing wrong with the Holocaust" threads.

>>4177
http://strawpoll.me/5886928
http://strawpoll.me/5886928
http://strawpoll.me/5886928
this one got more options and is more detailed

>>4007
It's a really bad idea to cut off any period of history. There's a lot of interesting things that have happened in the past 25 years.
>>4134
this
also there's shit like the falling of the iron curtain, the rise of telecommunications, America's first black president, hurricane Katrina, Tiananmen Square, Rwandan Genocide, the release of Nelson Mandela, gay marriage...

>>4231
>no option for "no IDs, selectable historical flags"

>>4208
Nigger has been used as a catch-all term since the sites inception.

Its usage has literally nothing to do with /pol/

>>3849
lmao back to reddit, nigger

>>3865
How about you just ignore any post that doesn't contribute anything to a thread? What's the difference between "duhhh' and "duhhhh niggers?" You're asking for heavyhanded modding with unsure framework to be moderated.

>>4240
>be american

>get their whitehouse burned down

What's wrong with IDs, anyways? They work really, really well on otherchan /v/

>>4134
9/11 being allowed would be absolute cancer

>>4269
Historical flags would be shitposting everywhere.

>>4269
My bad, let's assume it's part of the random historical flags option. Make them selectable rather than random.

>>4201
This.
Just keep asking and have conversations with the users. But at the end, it's just up to you

Also, I know it's not specifically related to the rule discussion, but
>hiro is actually creating threads and spending time in them regarding how things should be done

absolutely based, 10/10

>>4296
It would be less shitposting.

>>3710
Suppose someone says something exceptionally stupid, the sort of stupid that breeds screencaps that will be famous for years to come. If that person were to later post something unrelated, on a thread with reasonable discussion, there's a good chance the thread will devolve into shitposts as a result.

Now, that's a pretty specific example, but

>>4060
Selectable flags please

>>4177
Remove flags
Keep ids

>>3419
>ancient languages
1) Can discussion include languages that are not attested in Ancient Times (aka. pre 400 CE)?
2) Can we discuss etymology or the development of a language or the development of a linguistic feature or the development of language in general?

>>3419
Is nazi revisionism allowed?

>>4274
>>4271
Back to /pol/ please, we're not letting you fuck up this board.

>>4177
keep flag, remove IDs

>>4289
They're anti-anonymity. This is part of the reason why 8ch has a redditchan reputation, besides shitposting is because you don't seem to respect anonymity as much.

>>3541
Delete IDs, there is no argument for keeping them. Better yet, delete this entire board. History, religion, law, archeology, anthropology and ancient languages belong on /int/, philosophy goes on /lit/ and classical artwork goes on /ic/. There is no need for this board, it will just divide the community even more, just like moot said.

>>3541
Remove IDs. T|hey compromise anonimity, and people can circumvent them, if they're realy intent on samefagging.
Also, I agree with >>3670
Most other boards do just fine without them, I say we don't need them.

>>4236
Of course they'll agree when they are told to, denying the Holohoax is against the law in some countries. Watch/read the Leuchter report.
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/portfolio/part-21-the-leuchter-findings/

>>4218
>>4263

Too many options doesn't give a good picture.

We can have a poll on the things we actually want after flags and IDs have been removed.

http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754
http://strawpoll.me/5886754

>>3419
looks like hiro! :D

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Keep flags -

But make them optional that you can select to remove them. So you automatically post with a flag but you can choose to remove it.

http://strawpoll.me/5886956
http://strawpoll.me/5886956
http://strawpoll.me/5886956
http://strawpoll.me/5886956
http://strawpoll.me/5886956

vote on cutoff date for discussion

>>4332
It better not be. Holocaust deniers are the absolute worst to deal with and have no place in a history board.

>>4208
Saying "nigger" or believing there's differences between the racist isn't racist. It doesn't make sense for you to want to ban any history that can be considered racist.

Remove flags
Keep IDs

>>3419
>4. Please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago.
13th of January, 1991 @ TV Tower
never forget

>>4263
IDs, Selectable Historical Flags is the only true way

>>4289
>They work really, really well on otherchan /v/
LMAO
Go back to Reddit.

>>4144
bump

>>3419
Should probably get the mod to remove the picture of Sherman in the sticky post.

That was a bad call on his part.

>>4347
How does an ID counter anonymity? You're still on an anonymous imageboard, you just can't shitpost without people recognizing you.

>>4091
Could even be 5 minutes imo, especially if flags are kept so people don't waste their posting window on spamming pointless /pol/ or /int/ shit. If they can do that without abandon here anyway then why should this board even exist?

>>4338
>t. came in 2012
Ignorance is bliss.

At least it's easy to call you out on it, faggot.

>>4370

I don't think this can be addressed in a poll.

Having a cutoff date will always be arbitrary, what's important is making sure threads are historical and not political - which is a mod issue, not a rule one.

>>4060
Don't change how /lit/ is moderated, please. Just let us keep doing as we have been.

>>3419
Delete second half of 3
Somebody shouldn't be banned simply for expressing their opinion (or for memes)
Even if their opinion is considered racist

>>4339
Keeping flags just means that every post by an Indian is immediately suffocated by a wave of DESIGNATED.

>>4319
That's not how it works, though. Posting ID's are different for each thread.

>>4378
Banning historical racism is idiotic, but banning racism makes for a much more inviting and serious community.

>>4360
There are people who dont want IP Based flags but want selectable ones, and they will mostly vote for no flags because of this.

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How about 9/11 being the cutoff?

>no flags or id
my hiro

>>4370
Pre-fall of the Soviet Union desu

>>4360
That's a bad poll. You can be in favor of IDs but not flags, you force us to pick both or nothing.

http://strawpoll.me/5886914
http://strawpoll.me/5886914
http://strawpoll.me/5886914
Proper poll

>>3592
No.
We're an anonymous image board, IPs will only cause circlejerking and people to respond more to the ID'd poster than to the content of the post, which in turn causes more shitposting.

Hello again Anonymity

>>4437
>>4429
>>4425
yey it's gone but where are the id

>>4449
WE WON SENPAI

REFRESH PAGE

FLAGS ARE GONE

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>>4314
Would sell my personal info/10

>ids and flags gone
THANK YOU HIRO

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>suddenly

>>4347
>one-off, per-thread IDs
>anti-anonymity
They're anti-samefagging; there's literally nothing personally identifiable about them and they only last as long as a thread does.

>>3541
Remove IDs and flags, unless it is possible to toggle flags on and off. If so, then keep flags (as long as they are optional). Ideally, we should be able to select flags rather than have them automatically assigned by IP, but this point isn't required in my opinion.

I liked ID's

There we go, thanks Hiro

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:48:18 Post No.4491
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-10-31 22:48:18 Post No.4491 [Report]

I didn't know how to set toggle flags.

>>4419
Fuck off, it's not an opinion, it's being retarded

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>>4360
You really shouldn't use Strawpoll.

Anyways, here's a more complete poll for you guys, pic related.

http://poal.me/k5yuew

http://poal.me/k5yuew

>>4456
Hello there, anon.

>No ID's
I liked ID's, I think they should be the norm for every board.
Oh well, I guess I'm fine with no flags, though.

You guys do realize that this is gonna make /pol/ samefagging and shitting up this board a dozen times easier, though, right?

>>4491
Thanks, Hiro.

Wew he did it
Still think we should have ids at least to prevent samefaggotry

>>4159
I'm not so inclined to agree.

>>4210
No, you don't understand. It will be and endless stream of shitposts between cro/ser/bos and their respective diaspora. Also it's been only 20 years since it ended and the revisionist movements are insane.

>>4480
>>4475
>>4481
>>4483
>>4484
>>4486
>>4488
>>4490
Samefag

>>4491
Just ID's please!!!

Bring back the ids! I want to know who i am talking to

>>4491
Ask the dev

>>4491
put them back and >>4369

>>4491
Ask dev-kun, meybe he could help.
Also, provided it can be implemented, can we get historical flags?

>>4448
Idiotic. Every person on 4chan should remember 9/11. It's contemporary, not history.

>>4491
luckily you have a harem of kekmods that do emperor. also /film/ fucking when

>>4491
PHP isn't that hard man, just do it.

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>Flags and IDs gone
Thank you Hiro

>>3419
FLAGS GONE
IDS GONE
RULES TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT GOES HERE AND WHAT GOES ON /lit/ ADDED
BASED HIRO
YOU DID EVERYTHING I ASKED YOU

>>4491
it's fine there's no point for that, it's great with them off.

>>4491
THANK YOU BASED HIRO

>>4359
Yeah, so historians all around the world (outside of Islamic countries like Iran) are paid or forced by the Jews?
Jesus Christ man just leave this board if you seriously believe such a scam is actually possible.
Holocaust didn't happen in 9th century BC, it was just 70 years ago, in modern age.
How do you explain shitload of Nazis testifying about it?
Even if gas chambers and such shit was a lie, how do you explain mass shootings in Soviet Union?
They were all forced to testify? Jews just control entire world?
Just grasp reality a bit and see how dumb Holocaust denial is. World doesn't work that way.

>>4370
>no option for no cutoff

>>4491
thank you for your hard work hiro

>>4452
From the result of that poll, it looks like it doesn't matter anyways.

Neither is winning in both polls. I like the idea of selectable historic flags though.

>>4505
>I think they should be the norm for every board.
That's because you're a fucking newshit from Reddit.

>>4491
Ids pls and 2 minute timer

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Everything's fine now!

>>4533
I think he meant it as anything before 9/11

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Hiroyuki, this is what most people are proposing, and will also be best for the board in the long-term.

1.Flags
Default option - no flag
Custom flags can be chosen.
Flags created/changed after the year limit are not allowed.

2.IDs
No IDs.

3.Post timer
Mandatory 90 second interval for posting.

Please consider this, Hiro.

remove that faggot Sherman from the sticky it is very triggering

>>4514
>>4505
You can still spot samfagging by poster counts.

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[spoiler]Can we have spoilers enabled please?[/spoiler]

>>4491
You will figure it out.
Thanks for removing flags

Just ID's would be best, no flags
Maybe optional flags

Postin' on a new board! Thanks for the addition senpai!

>>4499
Fuck you

>>4519
No

>>4518
Oh right, we can now accuse people of samefagging.

>>4491
let us choose our flags

>>4491
Bring back the ids, dude

>>4549
thisssssssssssssss

>>4491
Flags seemed appropriate, IDs not.
Thanks for the board regardless.

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QUESTION
>QUESTION
QUESTION
>QUESTION

===

If Hitler/Nazis offends you that much, why don't you just hide the threads for them?

Of course, if they shit up other threads, then you can ban them, but I doubt that will happen. If it does, just report them.

It doesn't make sense to ban history-related posts on a history board.

Either you'd have to ban all Hitler discussions, or you'd allow them, but only allow posts that are "anti Hitler/Nazi/Holocaust". And doing that opens the gate for other kinds of censorship for other discussions. /his/ would be a really boring bored if you're only allowed to discuss one side of any given event.

>>3541
please keep id's

>>4518
All of those posts were made by me desu

>>4532
Im 100% sure it can be implemented, it was on /pol/

>>4560
Please don't joke like that.

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>blatant racism not allowed

This rule is a farce. The facts of history are blatantly racist. Africans didn't accomplish shit. And we are allowed to discuss the reasons why.

>blatant racism not allowed

This rule is a farce. The facts of history are blatantly racist. Africans didn't accomplish shit. And we are allowed to discuss the reasons why.

>blatant racism not allowed

This rule is a farce. The facts of history are blatantly racist. Africans didn't accomplish shit. And we are allowed to discuss the reasons why.

>>4338
I'm not even from /pol/, you dumb nigger. I've been on /k/ and sifting through /int/ for decent history discussions.

You know what ruins /k/? It isn't /pol/, it's the spammy whiners who have to piss and moan at a post they don't agree with by posting "GO BAK 2 POL"

Hiro, why is racism not allowed?

How to know who POO IN LOO and who don't!?

Talking about wars and stuff
Does it go to /k/ or here?

>>4566
No you can't. You can know that there's a samefag in the thread, but you can't tell who it is. We all know there are shitposters and samefags on 4chan. You don't need a unique IP counter to confirm that.

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>>4491
Thanks bro.

>>4491
This is better than what it was tbf. Toggle flags isn't a feature already on 4chan AFAIK, that'll have to be a new addition if you want it.

>>4584
BAN TRIPS

BAN TRIPFAGS RIGHT NOW

FUCK OFF TRIP CUNT

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>>4563
>Post timer

>>4546
I don't deny that Jews were shot and killed, just the Holohoax.
Svako drugacije razmislja burazeru i ima svoje misljenje.

>>4580
It's not really people don't want to discuss the Nazis, it's more we don't want /pol/ making a billion "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG" threads.

>>4599
Hiro, pls ban this person

>>4584
>tripfag wanting IDs

Of course.

NOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY AUSFLAG. YOU FUCKERS.

>>4491

Thanks desu senpai.

>>4516

So remove the shitposting and enforce rules to keep /his/ history related and not political. It's really not difficult.

If you're not interested in historical discussion (even amateur historical discussion should understand how to go about treating subjects and arguments) then you shouldn't be here.

Just because a load of x get butthurt and shitpost things that don't belong about it doesn't mean you don't allow discussion of it.

I want to be able to discuss the history of events within the last twenty years from a historical perspective and not a political one - so where is it that this discussion belongs if not /his/?

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IDs are not necessary unless there is incessant shitposting. This will probably be a slow, civil board when things slow down, no need for flags and IDs. They would just be ridiculous.

>>4584
Fuck off tripcunt.

Thank you very much hiro. You are awesome.

Next, I have a question:

Are we allowed to discuss books on humanities topics on /lit/ like Plato's Dialogues or Herodotus's Histories?

This is what /lit/ wants.

>>4580
They're thinskinned ruleshits from Reddit/Tumblr who don't remember when 4chan was self-moderated and want to destroy freedom of speech.

>>4580
No one is disallowing Hitler discussions. We're disallowing retarded holocaust denial and racism.

You can have your unconditional Hitler love meme threads in /pol/

>>4606
This. There is so much racism in history but if you say nigger you get banned.

>>4611
its not going to be a very fast board and stop wanting IDs you faggot. anonymous is anonymous whether you like it or not

>>3419
HISTORICAL FLAGS, HIRO

HISTORICAL FLAGS

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Thank you Hiroshima.

>>4563
>90 seconds

What kind of Juden tactic is this?

>>4563
Voicing support for this
Although I wouldnt mind post timer being a bit longer desu
>>4621
The fuck are you on about?

>>3419
Seems fairly good. Gotta agree w/ >>4419 though, delete second half of 3 and probably 4 as well in certain situations. Like, mods should use their better judgement in deleting threads like that if that makes any sense.

>>4620
BAN HIM HE'S THE REAL TRIPFAG

>>4605
>I'm not even from /pol/
Sure thing, I totally believe you.

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>>4580
threads discussing hitler/nazism isnt against the rules. being a complete stormfaggot however is.

You can respectfully talking about how you agree with National Socialism doctrine without being /pol/

Bring back IDs to prevent samefags desu

Flags are gone just like that!? Hiro, you are like moot's antithesis, you make everything anyone wants

>>4332
Who knows Mexico.

>>4639
kek

>flags gone
>IDs gone
Thank you!

>>4134
allowing 9/11 will fuck us over in the long run

>>4491
Please Hiro, could you add these historical flags >>>/qa/314081

>>4641
This, IDs can be introduced in the future, for now they're not necessary.

>>4657
So you actually have to put thought into your posts and can't just spam epic memes

>>4563
>90 seconds
fuck off

>>4625
Pa kako onda negiraš Holokaust, ako priznaješ da su Jevreji ubijani masovno?

>>4584
You can use a trip, like you're doing now if you want to keep an identity in a specific thread.

There's literally no reason for IDs or flags.

Thank you based Hiro.

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>>4633
Did I trigger you? Let me say it again since it's true.

>blatant racism not allowed

This rule is a farce. The facts of history are blatantly racist. Africans didn't accomplish shit. And we are allowed to discuss the reasons why.

>blatant racism not allowed

This rule is a farce. The facts of history are blatantly racist. Africans didn't accomplish shit. And we are allowed to discuss the reasons why.