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Is racism simply the normal human condition? Don't all normal

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Is racism simply the normal human condition?
Don't all normal people have at least some small preference when it comes to ethnic groups?
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>Is racism simply the normal human condition?

No.

>Don't all normal people have at least some small preference when it comes to ethnic groups?

Yes, but that's not racism. Racism clearly means holding people of other ethnicities to a different standard than your own ethnic group, or being directly hostile against other ethnic groups.
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Babies are born 'racist'. The reason 'racism' exists is for the same reason that we care about our family: because we recognize more of ourself (or genes) in them than others.

To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural, one needs to be indoctrinated to have this evolutionary wisdom supressed.
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>>285179
This is complete pseudoscience horseshit.
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>>285186
triggered
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>>285196
Not at all, I'm laffing over here familino. You're making this ridiculous naturalist argument that isn't supported by a shred of evidence and talking faff about recognizing 'genes' in people.
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>>285186
my ptsd
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>>285201
If we turned those into learned behaviors like racism then they would.
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>>285133
>Yes, but that's not racism.

Many people disagree, though.
You'd receive a lot of "racist shaming" if you publicly declared a preference, even if you said you mean no harm towards the ones you don't like.
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>>285179
>Babies are born 'racist'. The reason 'racism' exists is for the same reason that we care about our family: because we recognize more of ourself (or genes) in them than others.

>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural, one needs to be indoctrinated to have this evolutionary wisdom supressed.
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>>285196
>>285206
>samefagging this hard
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Seems to be so, at least through most of recorded history.
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Not as it does today. Racism only really too off when economic rivalries between people of different ethnic and racial backgrounds flared.
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>>285186
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>>285113
Americans do not know what race is. It doesn't mean the same thing as phenotype, African Americans are the same race as most southerners excluding the Cajuns
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>>285233
>>>/hm/
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>>285210
>You'd receive a lot of "racist shaming" if you publicly declared a preference, even if you said you mean no harm towards the ones you don't like.

Maybe from very ideological people, but you shouldn't expect any reasonableness from them anyway. Normal people would understand that if I say that I find women in my own ethnic group more attractive than others, that doesn't mean I hate every other kind of woman.
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>>285179

>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural

this totally
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>>285254
>Normal people would understand that if I say that I find women in my own ethnic group more attractive than others, that doesn't mean I hate every other kind of woman.

I wish
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>>285113
>Is racism simply the normal human condition?
No, racism is learned behavior.

However, racism is perfectly rational.
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>>285268
I think loyalty to blood relations make sense, and even from there taking it to a tribal or regional level, but extending that to an entire race just because of something as arbitrary and worthless as color is not borne out by the facts of history.
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>>285269
Svenne?
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>>285314
Yes unless you mean the name.
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>>285186

We naturally "team up" with people who look like us. This phenomenon is well documented in psychology and sociology.

Now treating an outside group like shit, that is not born into humans, shitty people make a choice to do that.
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>>285113

I would say that grouping together with like minded, and like appearanced people is normal to the human condition.

Treating people who don't look like yourself poorly, is a choice people make.
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>>285330
No, obviously mean Swede. But yeah, I can see how people in your country are even more asspained about people having opinions they don't like.
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>>285340

>Treating people who don't look like yourself poorly, is a choice people make.

depends, it is an effective self preservation technique... especially against those outsiders who cause societal decline/tension

besides their appearance comes second to the alien culture they oft represent
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>>285113
>Is racism simply the normal human condition?

How could it be, when the the concept of race only became prominent in the West as part of the ideological superstructure of colonialism? Why are you assuming that there is a "natural" state to human conceptual thought?
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>>285442
>How could it be, when the the concept of race only became prominent in the West as part of the ideological superstructure of colonialism?
I want underage redditors who listen to aids-riddled faggots to leave.
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>>285333
>This phenomenon is well documented in psychology and sociology.

[citation needed]
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>>285254
>Normal people would understand that if I say that I find women in my own ethnic group more attractive than others, that doesn't mean I hate every other kind of woman.

You're living on heaven? Here you need verbal gymnastics to say that without getting a bad reaction. You need to say something like "I like blonde girls" or "I like pale girls". Maybe you can get away with saying "I find black woman to be pretty attractive to be honest" when there's no blacks or people with close black friends present.

With close friends is different and you can say whatever you want, of course.
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>>285474
nice arguments bro
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>>285442
Yeah bro, people always got along just fine with strange folk from distant lands until a few centuries ago.
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>>285537
What does that have to do with racism? Of course people have been xenophobic for millenia, but you can't be racist if you don't have the concept of a race, which definitely has a history of it's own.
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>>285603
What if certain physical traits ar identified with a certain culture, in a certain period of time. Isn't that racism?
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Racism is a social construct.
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Racism is an outward antagonistic expression of "birds of a feather flock together."
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>>285487
Have you ever studied human history? You must be willingly ignorant if you havent realized that ethnic groups have historically formed into geographic nations. Maybe study the conquests of Rome.
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>>285659
You're aware that forming nation states justified solely by nationality is an idea stemming from the French Revolution/later nationalism, right?

Maybe study any history.
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>>285113

Yes. Yes.
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>>285113
>Is racism simply the normal human condition?

People naturally distrust people who aren't like them or aren't "in", so yes.

>Don't all normal people have at least some small preference when it comes to ethnic groups?

Yes, but people rarely discuss it.
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>>285233
>American
>Kalashnikovs
baka desu senpai
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>>285612
No? Making the observation that people from different places look different is not racism.
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>>285719
It kinda is, if these people is worst and you equate the physical difference with them being worst. Or do you think people who dislikes blacks dislike them because they're black? No, they dislike them because they assume that, being black, they must be also violent, lazy or whatever.
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>when it comes to ethnic groups

You know this depends, but generally people prefer people who are more similar to them in just about every way, not just ethnic.

A rich guy can relate to a nobleman more than to a poor guy
A fatass can relate to other fatass more than to a skinny guy
A Christian can relate to other Christian more than to a Muslim

etc

I'm perfectly sure that a 11th century English nobleman would prefer to marry an Italian noblewoman over a dumb, manure-covered English peasant girl.
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>>285179
>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural

/thread
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/

3 month old babies are racist. Please stop being anti-human and accept that racism is a natural part of the human condition.
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>>285751
Three month old babies don't recognise themselves when they see themselves in the mirror.

Idiocy.
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>>285745
You mean like an Irish with an Irish or Blacks with Blacks, Asians with Asians because the former yes the latter no.
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>>285757
So basically the conception of race is stronger and more primal than the conception of self. Either post a counter study or accept that anti-racists are dumber than infants.

From a gene based view of evolution racism makes perfect sense. When preserves copies of their genes by favoring those that have the same genes as them, the same race as them. Racism is a survival instinct, you only need to look at the refugee ridden places of Europe to see what happens when you suppress your natural survival instinct.
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>>285757
>tfw the smartest species in the planet is born dumber than shit and even more useless than a puppy
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>>285786
So much wrong with the statement, it's great.
>study pop of 64, hardly representative of a population
>genetic diversity is an evolutionary strength not a weakness, there are loads of studies proving men/women prefer the smell of clothing of those with as little genetic similarity with them as possible
>anti-racists are dumb because they ignore a potential instinct(refer to above for why it is not)

how many instincts do humans ignore on a daily basis to get on with modern life?

There's no need to post a counter study, yours isn't representative of any large population.

By your logic, the concept of race is also more important than being able to remember something is still there if it's covered up. Yeah, alright, idiot.
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>>285786
The baby has no conception of race all it sees is "look like me/mama/papa" and "not look like me".

Only when the child actually develops and is self conscious are they able to associate x thing with y thing.
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>>285822
You are still struggling to understand the wisdom of humans that crap their pants. If one values themself than they would value the traits of theirself, hence seeing those traits in others gives them values. This is something you would have figured out as an infant, but you've forgotten it.

>>285821
Instincts evolved because they directly helped the growth of the species.
The study you are referring to did not say that people prefer the scent of those that are 'genetically different' it just said they are not sexually attracted to the scent of close family members, which is just our instincts telling us to not do incest.

"Genetic divercity" is only a fucking strength if the genes involved are good. Diversity by itself is not a good thing. How about we have our women have sex with the mentally retarded, that would increase the diversity! Gotta preserve the retard genes, and don't forget the cripple genes! We don't give a shit about diversity outside of liberal brainwashing facilities. We only seek out partners different from us if we suspect that they have good genes that are not within our pool. Beyond that our genes desire to live demands that we seek out those that are similar. In other words the only reason to seek out different genes is if they are stronger genes that in turn will 'carry' all our other genes. We are disgusted by weaker genes.
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>>285113
Not racism but xenophobia certainly,
>Xenophobia is the fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange

more like I like my group and don't like other groups, regardless of race for much of the time
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>>285113
abstractions sustaining hedonism is the human nature
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>>285133
>Racism clearly means holding people of other ethnicities to a different standard than your own ethnic group, or being directly hostile against other ethnic groups.
You'd be surprised how many people disagree with this definition of racism.
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>>285186
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Is poo on the ground simply the normal human condition?
Don't all normal people have at least some small preference to poo wherever and whenever they feel like it?
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>ethnic group is the same thing as race

I want this meme to end

ethnic group = German, Polish, Somalian, Chinese, British, Japanese etc

race = Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, Australoid
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>>287459
They'd be right. The definition that the anon you replied to gave was for racialism, racism is the belief that aspects of race are inherently inferior or superior, not "different".
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>>285179
>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural
Of course. It's just as unnatural as vaccinating yourself, brushing your teeth and not shitting in your bed.
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>>287477
All you did was add -oid at the end of words. What if I call them germanoid, polishoid, somaloid, chinesoid, britishoid and japanesoid? Check and mate motherfucker.
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>>287595
And what if you just remove the -oid from those words? They become german, polish, somali, etc... fuckin /thread
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What the fuck is this thread?

>>285179
How can you say
>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural
And take yourself seriously
>evolutionary wisdom
I can't do it anymore, I am burning.

How have you said something so obviously wrong and yet half this thread agrees with it even though it's appeal to nature bullshit.
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>>287587
Chopping of your fingers and other self-harm is also unnatural. You don't need to put a normative frame on everything. I can say that people have innate racial biases, that that's natural, but without saying if that's "good" or "bad".
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>>287609
Why is there so much libshittery on /his/? Your feelings don't determine what's true or false. Read up on kin altruism. Dawkins actually wrote a decent book on the topic before going full fedora.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Selfish_Gene
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>>285659
Did you seriously just use Rome as a homogenous example?

Oh my god

You fucking simpleton
THERE WAS A WAY BETTER ARGUMENT YOU RACIST FUCKSTAIN ON HUMANITY
Why not talk about Aristotle's case for Libido
but no instead you make the fucking most WRONG claim you could

You are so FUCKING stupid I want you to leave and never come back
you contribute absolutely nothing to the conversation you bumbling trainwreck of a man
Honestly nobody hates you because of your racism they hate you because YOU ARE A DUMB CUNT.
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>>285113
Yes. The classic example I like to use to all the race deniers is the lunch room example. Go to any enthically diverse school and observe how the kids clump up to people of their race or ethnicity during lunch. People prefer to hang out with their own kind. It does not mean people hate each other, just that people may be more comfortable with their own people. Just because i personally love my family more than outsiders doesn't mean I hate anyone who isn't related to me. It's natural and healthy. Another good example of this sort of racial solidarity is African Americans. Obama himself does the little hang shakes with other blacks that he doesn't do with whites. They rally up with their protests to perceived injustices with banners like black lives matter, in order to say" Hey, my people, my kind, are struggling. I will stand up for my kind!"
"Racism" is natural. Where you get conflict is when you force diversity and suppress our biological impulses to be with our own kind.
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>>287624
When did I talk about feelings you imbecile? The whole post was a fallacy based on emotions.
I'm going to bleed from my head if you keep posting things like this.
Please stop
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>>285268
Dude people used to kill each other if they were from the other side of the river

We still don't trust each other like other anon said about family
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>>287627
>goes full rage mode
>calls the other poster FUCKING stupid
You sure are making a strong case here. The poster you replied to was really vague, but maybe he was talking about how Rome's many conquests made the empire difficult to manage due to its ethnic heterogeneity or something. You could've asked instead of launching into a tirade.

>>287635
Negative feelings are typically the reason people reject out of hand arguments showing human biological diversity. The research on babies is out there and is not at all based on emotions (except the babies in the experiment of course). Feel free to leave if these discussions make you uncomfortable. See >>285751
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>>287653
No it was pretty clear what he was talking about.
Yes I was mad, yes that poster was dumb.
Nothing wrong with being mad that dumb peoples dumb statements
Actually I'm still mad, nobody here cares if you're racist just try not to be fucking retarded about it.

As for the post about babies if you want to go around acting like everything babies do is what humans are meant to do then be my guest

Guess what that study means, jack shit.
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>>287611
>stop oppressing me, I'm being misunderstood!
You purposely use an ambiguous term. People commonly use the terms natural and unnatural to refer to a norm in a nondescript environment. It can be a social norm or a genetic norm. You, however, are strictly talking about a genetic norm. You purposely use an ambiguous term which imply that something is unwanted (it's not natural!) and, when questioned, you justify it by saying you were strictly making a scientific observation. You also use the term "race loyalty" and "evolutionary wisdom" to refer to the concept of "babies are programmed to act like fucking apes" and then deny that you were making a positive or negative association. You are not being clever. You are communicating improperly. I suggest that you strictly say "the knowledge and behavior required to build civilizations is not genetic" so we can properly ignore your fucking useless commentaries.
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>>287567
>racism is the belief that aspects of race are inherently inferior or superior

Which is implied when I said "holding other ethnic groups to a different standard, or being hostile towards them". Do you really think that it is possible for someone to consider for example blacks to be genetically inferior, and simultaneously hold them to the same standards as their own ethnic group?

I don't think so. The difference between Racism/Racialism just seems like semantics to me.
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>>287726
>Do you really think that it is possible for someone to consider for example blacks to be genetically inferior, and simultaneously hold them to the same standards as their own ethnic group?

Why not? I personally believe each race has their advantages and disadvantages. When speaking about blacks in a western society(which values abstract thought, high mental capacities and overall intelligence) they are obviously inferior. But whites in a sub Saharan setting wouldn't last very long. Knowing black are inferior in a western context however doesn't mean I cant judge individuals on their own merit. All it says is that as a people they are undesirable. Which ultimately affects my views on welfare and immigration, but I expect black individuals that I interact with to act like civil human beings regardless.
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>>287702
In a vacuum that study might not mean much, but it exists much much more research showing that kin altruism is real and meaningful. There are sound, evolutionary arguments for why this should theoretically be the case (again, check out The Selfish Gene) alongside empirical evidence that humans and other animals behave differently towards others depending on how closely related they are. In this sense, race and ethnicity can be thought of as extended family.

It's also interesting to look at how the prevalence of cousin (and other close relative) marriage affects the cohesiveness of wider society. It's one of the reasons tribalism and clannishness is so prevalent in the politics of the Middle East versus other parts of the world.

>>287720
>implying I'm 285179
You act as if there's just one non-race denier on this board because no one *decent* would hold anything but strictly egalitarian views, so it's gotta be one troll. kek. I was simply pointing out how asinine your example was.
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>>287748
But none of that is true. Your /pol/ is really showing.

Your failure to properly understand that black people are individuals just like whites, and that individuals can be horrible, or decent, is precisely what I'm talking about. You are applying different standards to them, simply because they have a different skin color than you, which is clearly retarded.
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>>285113
Humans are inherently ethnocentric. Whether that is perceived as being racism or not is up to who is deciding it.
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>>285487
>>287627
This Tumblr tier rage was hilarious.
Humans are inherently ethnocentric, I can go find the source for this is one of the readings I was doing for my African History course if you want, however you don't seem very rational and would probably just continue with your tumblrfag whining and swearing.

Thanks for the laugh, pic related is MFW reading your intense anger on Tibetan carpet board
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>>287770
>Your failure to properly understand that black people are individuals just like whites, and that individuals can be horrible, or decent, is precisely what I'm talking about.

My post makes the idea clear that I judge blacks I interact with as individuals. I just also realize that when making the distinction between blacks and whites, there are clear cut differences. To that I would say that the group known as blacks produces more horrible or incompetent individuals to say whites or Asians. These distinctions are important if we are to look at how a society would look like and function in my opinion.

>You are applying different standards to them, simply because they have a different skin color than you, which is clearly retarded.

I'm not. And I can say there are generally differences that aren't superficial enough to ignore. Nothing wrong with saying the races are different and have pros and cons to them. In the case of my own nation, blacks aren't fairing well compared to whites. They aren't as fit to thrive in this civilized environment. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Mother Nature is an beautiful thing. Embrace our differences.

Also *should* races be held to the same standards? We don't hold men and women to the same standards, so why do we insist we do it for race? We already don't to a degree with programs enacted to help low intelligence minorities like Latinos and Africans.
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>>287814
Nobody is denying that humans are ethnocentric bud. U might wanna read things before you post like a retard.
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>>287829
Except the one or two tumblrinas who discovered 4chan yesterday and are doing just that.
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>>287842
No, again you need to read.
Look at the first sentence of the thread if you need some guidance friend.
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>>287624
>Your feelings don't determine what's true or false.

neither do yours

>muh family
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>>287829
>>287851
Pretty sure it's the answer to the second sentence of the thread? And I'm not your Bud, guy.
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>>287726
>Do you really think that it is possible for someone to consider for example blacks to be genetically inferior, and simultaneously hold them to the same standards as their own ethnic group?

Well the bell curve applies to all races, race is not a binary switch. Race being a thing doesn't at all lead to treating people differently before law. There's really dumbass whites, really fast asians and niggers who can swim.
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>>287870
Ok man, I'm gonna say it just once more.
You need to read the thread if you want any chance of having a decent conversation.

Everyone here is debating racism nobody has given a single fuck about ethnocentrism the entire time

Please take my advice before you post again.
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>>287817
>Also *should* races be held to the same standards?

Individuals should be held to the same standards, yes. Of course. It shouldn't matter what kind of skin color or ethnicity they have, because what kind of skin color or ethnicity should be irrelevant. Only the individuals actions should be judged.
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>>287876
Yes, but I submit to you that it is not possible to consider a whole swathe of the human population as genetically inferior to yourself, and simultaneously be able to treat them well, and history is on my side on that question.
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>>287885
>because what kind of skin color or ethnicity should be irrelevant. Only the individuals actions should be judged.

Why? I haven't seen any actual evidence that this benefits a society other than "muh feels".
Why shouldn't people just be free to discriminate and keep to their own kind? Can you please prove that ignoring race and ethnicity benefits a society? Because from my point of view, human beings seem to be much more trusting and easy going when they are homogenous. Instead we get enthic and race conflicts because some left wing nut jobs wants to deny basic human nature. So please.
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>>287902
I've never said you can't "keep to your own kind".

You are free to do whatever the fuck you want to, as long as you don't harm anyone else, but if you are a racist and consider other ethnicities inferior, I'll be hard pressed to see how you will ever leave the ethnicity that is the target of your hatred alone.
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>>287902
>society

Wrong board bro
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>>287909
>muh white savior complex

Lmao.
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>>287748
>Blacks are better at surviving in wild nature
Holy fuck this argument triggers me so much
Its like you actually consider physical strenght and natural surviving skills anyhow important in modern age man. We are past being fucking animals, stop bringing it up as an advantage.
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>>287917
Shut the fuck up faggot.

History shows what happens when people like you want to "keep to your own kind".

It turns into lebensraum, imperialism, and genocide, so kill yourself.
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>>287920
Have you ever been to Africa? or is all you know some cushy first world country which caters to obese people in mobility scooters? I'll give you a hint it's probably the second one
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>>287932
Neither actually, i'm Slavshit

Doesn't change the point anyway, why should we put any value on what we have in common with animals rather than on what makes us human?
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>>287931
No. Majority of people keep to their own kind lmao. That's what borders are for. So nations can have self determination. People are tribal. GET OVER IT. All the whining won't make blacks like you.
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>>287946
Sure sure. Why don't you get the fuck back to your containment board instead of trying to turn this board in to /pol/ 2.0?
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>>287943
What does make us human? Take it from someone who lives in Africa, survival is hugely important in many areas. Wages are retardedly low and the competition for basic work is insane.
The amount of people who are displaced because of violence or war and have to survive on nothing and find jobs in other African countries is scary. There is no welfare or assistance, it's survive or die.
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>>287955
I'm not trying to turn this into pol. Just offering my two cents in the phenomenon known as "racism". Which I believe given the nature and differences of human beings, is totally justified and beneficial for a dominating population as well as inferior ones. The world is benefitting off the wests innovations. I don't Africans complaining with all that fancy medicine
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>>287963
>What does make us human?
>Tfw some people unironicaly believe its emotions, literally the same chemical reactions in our brain that we inherited from animals
Superbly expanded ego - rational and abstract thinking - is what makes us human.

It may be important to have a good physical state for people living in 3rd world countries, but judging people's quality based on their life in a country at the lowest stage of social evolution is just silly.

Black have genetically inferior minds, making them inferior to whites. But the difference is so small that in reality it doesn't really matter. Nigger can get a PhD same as cumskin can be backwards retarded murricunt.
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>>287979
>Which I believe given the nature and differences of human beings, is totally justified and beneficial for a dominating population as well as inferior ones.

Then we don't have anything to discuss, because I don't agree with you, and I doubt there's anything we could ever say to each other that would change the other person's mind.

Hence my saying that you should fuck off back to /pol/ where people agree with you and stay there.
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>>287902
>I haven't seen any actual evidence

you haven't looked. it shows:

>keep to their own kind

pure intellectual laziness. you're not interested in debate, only to be contrarian and 'realist' to elevate yourself above your peers without any of the actual work. you fraud, throwing around loaded terms like 'basic human nature' like they mean anything in any context.
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Anti-racism is the totalitarianism of the 21st century. It manages to be worse than Soviet communism or Nazism, since it doesn't allow even inner dissidence.
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>>287943
what makes us human would be basic human dna. white people have less human dna as it had been corrupted by neanderthal admixture. whatever makes us human, whites have less of it
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>>287998
>Soviet Communism and Nazism allowed inner dissidence

Sure m8, and I'm a Martian.
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>>287994
Pure emotional dribble. There is no evidence that color blindness works or is beneficial.
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We are born to shit in the bed. The reason 'shitting the bed' exists is for the same reason that we care about our health: because we recognize that our fecal matter needs to be expelled. To have no shitting loyalty is unnatural, one needs to be indoctrinated to suppress the evolutionary wisdom of shitting the bed.
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>>288002
Read Viktor Frankl, Anna Akhmatova, Czeslaw Milosw etc. There was plenty of private dissent in those "totalitarian" regimes, not even mentioning how they never built absolute cultural hegemony in the way anti-racism has done in the West.

Nowadays things are much worse. Then, the State would fuck up your life if you weren't a commie or a Nazi, now, society itself take care of it's role, your own friends and family disowns you if you are a "racist" (which is basically anyone to the right of Lavrenty Beria nowadays).

The closer we have to this phenomenom is how the Red Guards took the task of persecuting dissidents to themselves during the Cultural Revolution.
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>>288029
oh you jumped from 'i haven't seen evidence' to 'there is no evidence'

there's no evidence racism is beneficial either, pseud
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>>288029
>dribble
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>>288046
There is evidence to suggest that black people feel more empathetic to other blacks and whites feel empathetic to other whites. There is also studies that show the more racially homogenous an area is, the better social cohesion there is. Anyone who lives in a city can see the bullshit. My nephews understand race relations better than you fuck heads. I'm sorry human beings aren't these bias less robots you want them to be. It's not racism in the sense you're using the word to know that blacks mostly associate with blacks, whites with whites, Asians with Asians, Mexicans with Mexican etc. how is that a problem exactly?
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>>288029
Know how I know you aren't intelligent?
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>Multiculturalism is bad
>The best countries in the world are multicultural
>sweatyracist.jpg
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>>287624
Dawkins argues precisely against the exact argument you are making IN THAT FUCKING BOOK you giant mongoloid.
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>>288084
The Nordic countries, Australia and Japan are traditionally not multicultural.

The Nordic countries are becoming, but is this change for the better?
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>>285659
>Maybe study the conquests of Rome.

Oh jesus cunting christ you are actually b8ing please be fucking b8ing

No-one is this fuckng dumb, surely?
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>>288084
Compare East Asian countries with Latin American ones, please.
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>>288067
>the studies exist i swear
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>>288084
I bet Japan and South Korea just want to be enriched by Europes Muslim populations and Americas race riots and shit politics.
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>>288092
With their aging population they will need to accept refugees, they are younger nations than us boyo remember that.
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>>288096
Not from the third world. They don't need authoritarian rag heads raping their women and collecting welfare. They'd be better off dying off then altering their nations body forever imo
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>>288096
>With their aging population they will need to accept refugees

Not really.
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>>288084
Correction, the best countries in the world are multi-racial, but mono-cultural.

Races mix(except in America), cultures do not.
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>>288111
Oh yeah wise guy?
Got any other answers?
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stupidity and selfishness is part of the normal human condition so yes. I think for altruism and compassion for outsiders to work requires a lot of mental override.
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It depends on what you mean by "racism". Look at the Balkans, they're all white (or at least >white >pepe.jpg) and everyone hates each other. If you put a Serb, a Croat, an Acholi, and a Ganda in a room together, I doubt it's going to end up as "Whites vs Blacks"
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>>285113
>Don't all normal people have at least some small preference when it comes to ethnic groups?
When it comes to groups in general, I'd say, people will pick their own over others. The process of civilization is essentially a process of trying to replace this immediate tribalism with a more general solidarity, with varying results.
Racism as a political ideology, on the other hand, is a self-serving agenda to tilt the odds in your favour at the expense of fellow citizens, and therefore doomed to fail.
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>>288126
if work becomes more efficient (robots, computers etc), an aging population is not a problem because it takes fewer people to produce the same
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>>285442
>How could it be, when the the concept of race only became prominent in the West as part of the ideological superstructure of colonialism

You are literally retarded
Arabs and many other cultures that met subsaharan blacks have been ripping on how Shit they are for millennia
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>>288223
>he said in the west
>you counter this with the example of arabs
10/10
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>>287748

I'm going to be straight here. I am a kekold, but I am also a white nationalist. I believe that whites have contributed more to humanity than any other race, space travel, anti—biotics the list goes on. But when it comes down to it, blacks are just better at fucking. Theres no shame in admitting this. There is no shame in admitting that despite the infinite intellectual and moral superiority of the white race, black cock is just better at pleasing women.

The reason white women are turning from the cause and running to niggers is simply because they are not being sexually satisfied. Can you blame them? If you dont get enough to eat at home youre going to go out to eat. The only way to save the white race from miscegenation is kekolding. My pure white wife is my angel, the apple of my eye. And I want nothing but the best for her. So every friday she gets to have her fill of big black cock. And our relationship goes on like normal. We love each other, and plan on having a child soon. She also shares my red pilled beliefs.

Monogamy is a tool of the jew. Just give it a chance once. Its exhilarating. Theres something deeply majestic about watching a toned muscular black stud going in and out of a beautiful white woman. Try it once.
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>>288232
Thank you for existing m80, 6million/10.
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>>285179
are you really selfish gene-ing right now nigga
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>>285113
Xenophobia is natural, racism is not.
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Depends what type of racism. Not being attracted to people looking different and seeing them as weird? That's normal.
Supremacy theories? Nope, that's not natural.
Of course, I'm talking about real racism, ie ''black person is worth 3/5ths of white person'', not modern SJW bullshit. Also, if you don't like Islam, that's not racism.
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>>288267
Of course not, islam isn't a race.
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>>288092
>race riots
I bet the blacks from Africa wanted to be brought over in ships by white people and made to be literal slaves.
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>>287609
because people like yourself haven't taken any steps towards proving him wrong, you silly fucking cunt
your shitposting is L I T E R A L L Y adding nothing to the topic and you should kill yourself

t.neutral lurker
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>>288232
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>>288310
>implying black dick isn't genetically superior
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>>285113
>Is racism simply the normal human condition?
It's broader than that, I'd say Xenophoia is the normal human condition
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>>288322
Reminds me of Sir Richard Burton's "proof" that Egyptians aren't black through penis measurements.
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>>285333
>This phenomenon is well documented in psychology and sociology.
>psychology and sociology taken as factual
Man what the fuck happened to this place
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>>288433
>hurr how dare you analyze human behaviour
This literally is a thread about a psychological and sociological phenomenon, and you complain about someone mentioning the fields of study?
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>>288447
Are you implying that anything related to race is a sham just like the fields of sociology and psychology?
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>>288229
You know well enough there's a difference between west and middle east. Why would you make suck a shitty counterargument? Is it bait?
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>>288450
No, I'm saying that the phenomenon of racism can only be analyzed in those fields, otherwise we cannot speak of it.
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>>285113
I guess we can all agree, at least here on 4chan, that there's a difference between a race-based preference at the time of finding a couple/breedig and systematically marginalizing and oppressing a certain group of people based on their physical appearance and cultural traits. Races exist (and yes I know that from a genetic point of view they don't and we'd rather call them 'ethnicities') because people who look, act and think alike are more likely to form groups with each other rather than with people who don't. Also, races came to be thanks to relative isolation throughout most of our history as a species. Race mixing and cultural blending are a common phenomena because at some point we got pass the idea that people who look like us are't actually people. Nonetheless, we can still tell apart people based on their race/ethnicity almost always, or at least have a guess at where they come from. I do believe racial preference is a cultural construction and we should notice how, in cultures where people from different races have lived shoulder by shoulder for enough time to recognize some degree of cultural similarities (say, Central Asia, Latin America, USA, etc.), racial preference is not as strong as in more homogeneous, isolated cultures.
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>>289280
*People who DON'T look like us
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>>285113
Yeah.
We naturally gravitate towards kin.
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>>285113
This is how sub species appear in the animal kingdom. It's a good survival strategy because it works.
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>>285179
>To have no concept of race loyalty is unnatural

Yeah, I'm sure Og the caveman really gave a fuck about the white race instead of his immediate family and tribe members. What is this bullshit? You realize concepts like "white" didn't exist until Europeans lost their former identities when colonizing the New World? Even in the Middle ages people identified with their local town and religion more than anything approaching the modern era concept of race.
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