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Did the Danzig massacres take place?

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Did the Danzig massacres take place?
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I could not find anything reliable anout this

It looks like a good ol’ Nazi propaganda
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>>283776
I can't find reliable info supporting what the poles said though
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>>283796
>poles said
About what?

There is nothing suggesting those massacres ever happened

Why would Poles say anything about it?
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>>283820
>>283674
They did happen, but they're ignored because it happened to the "bad guys"

Just like the mass deportations of Germans, which was worse than the 'holocaust'
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>>283829
Mass deportations did happen, and they could qualify as genocide in modern terms, but they were in no way worse than Holocaust.
Danzig massacres were a product of German propaganda, just like alleged Czech massacres of Germans in Czechoslovakia.
Germans are to blame for WW2. They chimped out and invaded dozen countries and murdered millions. The end.
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>>283838
Not at all, over a million died in the mass expulsions. Not including those that would die in the winter afterwards included under normal statistics.

There is documented evidence of Czech oppression in the Sedetenland. The Czech government declared martial law and didn't allow the ethnic minority to have a referendum.

The British are far more to blame for the second world war than the Germans.

The Germans annexation of Czechoslovakia wasnt justified but their claims on west Prussia were.
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>>283829
>'holocaust'

back to /pol/
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>>283848
>The British are far more to blame for the second world war than the Germans.

You're right, it was Hitler that appeased Chamberlain a good two or three times because he wanted peace.

Muppet.
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>>283674

>idiots in this thread

Not even in German propaganda there was anything called "Danzig massacres". Poland did not have any control over Danzig's internal affairs.

There was the so called "Bromberg Blodsontag" or the "Bydgoszcz Blood Sunday", in which Germans claimed that some ethnic German civilians were killed by the Polish majority. They claim today is almost universally dismissed. Civilian bodies in Bydgoszcz were most likely results of Germans' own shelling of the city. It nevertheless still appears on neo-Nazi websites and gets repeated by edgy teenagers.

The German minority in Poland was actually one of the best-treated minorities in pre-WW2 Europe, simply because the Poles knew that Germany was all too eager to claim that Germans were persecuted.
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>>283857
Why did Chamberlain have the authority to decide what Hitler could and couldn't do?

Why could he unilaterally make the decision for Czechoslovakia or Germany?

The British had a hegemony and they were afraid of that.
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>>283848
>The Germans annexation of Czechoslovakia wasnt justified but their claims on west Prussia were.

The Germans were not the majority in the Corridor.
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HE JUST NEEDED MO' GOLD FOR THEM AUTOBAHNS
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>>283848
Yes, and several millions died in Holocaust. Commonly accepted number is 6 million.
While Jews (and some Slavs) were industrially exterminated, Germans weren't killed in planned actions, it was outburst of hatred because those same Germans slaughtered millions, many in very inhumane ways.
>documented evidence
Documented by Dr. Goebbels?
>but their claims on west Prussia were
How? It was literally Polish land that Prussians conquered in 18th century, and then moved Germans there while displacing Poles?
>The British are far more to blame for the second world war
How? Germans betrayed Western trust with occupation of Czech lands, and then tried to occupy more land, now invading a country guaranteed by British and French.
How is it British fault in any way?
Are you gonna use ''Versailles'' card now? Because Versailles was far more lenient than Brest-Litovsk.
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>>283848
>over a million died in the mass expulsions
Even if we accept that overinflated figure, it doesn't even begin to compare with what the Germans inflicted on the civilians they oppressed.
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Since June ... The Reich’s Government registered 70,000 ethnic German refugees who had recently fled Polish sovereign territory. Another 15,000 had taken refuge in Danzig. Among the acts of brutality inflicted on those still in Poland were five documented cases of castration.
... The Polish government rounded up “disloyal” ethnic Germans and transported them to concentration camps. [203] Authorities closed daily traffic between Upper Silesia and Germany, preventing thousands of ethnic Germans from commuting to their jobs in the Reich. Polish coastal anti-aircraft batteries fired on Lufthansa passenger planes flying over the Baltic Sea to East Prussia.
... Along the German-Polish frontier, Polish border guards fired on ethnic German refugees attempting to flee into Germany. German infantry patrols crossed into Poland and fought to free them. On the 26th, a Polish cavalry unit rode boldly through German villages near Neidenburg in East Prussia. The German army’ s Artillery Regiment 57 engaged the horsemen on sovereign Reich territory. The Poles withdrew, leaving 47 dead on the battlefield.
... London telegraphed Kennard, instructing him to formally protest Poland’s recent practice of shooting at German refugees.
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>>283838
Try saying the same the other way around.
>the holocaust was a product of Allied propaganda
>Germans are to blame for WW2. They chimped out and invaded dozen countries and murdered millions. The end.
They invaded three nations m8. One was Czechoslovakia where 3 million Germans lived. The other was a coup/siege in Austria supported by a great number of Austrians. The 3rd was Poland, which would give Hitler the ability to close the gap between Germany and East-Prussia for further economic efficiency. That's when England went to war against Germany. History is not black and white.

It's uncertain whether the theories of the Danzig massacre and Czech massacres are true or not. I mean, the Germans got the blame for the massacre of Polish officers, which proved not to be true. It's hard to say what is factual and what is not. Even systematic oppression of Germans in what used to be Germany would be a fair enough reason to invade or threaten to invade if you ask me. Hitler attempted a treaty where Danzig would be handed over to Germany again, didn't he? The treaty was denied and he was later attacked.

One more thing, why didn't England go to war against Soviet Union when they did just the same thing as Germany towards Poland?
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>>283867
>Why could he unilaterally make the decision for Czechoslovakia

Because the Czechs were guaranteed independence by France, and Chamberlain didn't want another European war, pretty understandably.

Hitler made several deals with Chamberlain and reneged on all of them, he was very much aware that attacking Czechoslovakia was risking a European war.

If you knowingly invade another country, knowing quite well about the possible consequences, you are to blame for the ensuing war. Is this an alien concept to you or are you just trying to be edgy?
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>>283878
... The May 11 edition of the Polish newspaper Dziennik Bydgoski (Bromberg Daily News) published an editorial asserting that the Germans in Poland “know that in case of war, no indigenous enemy will escape alive. The Führer is far away but the Polish soldier close by, and in the woods there’s no shortage of limbs.” The previous month, the Polish mayor of Bromberg, a town with a comparatively large German population, told journalists that if Hitler invaded there, he'd be stepping over the corpses of Bromberg’s Germans.
... The Poles, without provocation from Germany, closed Danzig’s borders. Since the metropolis imported much of its foodstuffs, this created a critical situation for the population.


'Hitler's Revolution: Ideology, Social Programs, Foreign Affairs', Richard Tedor

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>>283674
>Did the Danzig massacres take place?
Yes of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzig_massacre
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>>283848
>Not at all, over a million died in the mass expulsions

Mostly the fault of Germans themselves. Like gauleiter Hanke of Lower Silesia who ordered all women and children in his region to evacuate. In mid January. Without providing them with food, transport or shelter. They were simply told to leave homes and fuck off. Most did not survive.
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>>283870
The Germans initially wanted a thin strip of territory as to connect rail/road lines with East Prussia.

West Prussia was given to poland just so Poland would have a link to the Sea. Isolating East Prussia as an enclave is both moronic and obviously going to become a contentious territorial issue.

>>283874
>Documented by Dr. Goebbels?
Film, Press from the time period

>How? It was literally Polish land that Prussians conquered in 18th century, and then moved Germans there while displacing Poles?

If land that a country occupied in the 18th is a valid claim why didn't England annex Hannover in 1945?

Poland was enlarged simply to create a strong eastern ally for the British Europe hegemony.

>now invading a country guaranteed by British and French.

Germany announced its intentions for Polish territory prior to the recent guarantees.

If Britain or Poland was interested in Peace they would have responded to the peace offers and reasonable proposals made prior to September 1939 and the still reasonable proposals made after the invasion, which included military withdrawal which would have been unprecedented.

The nature of the British resolve against Germany was shown after France fell. Britain NEEDED Germany to fall, they didn't and wouldn't live in a world where the 3rd Reich continued to exist. They would act aggressively in this goal. Including invading neutral countries themselves.
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>>283890
They didn't even have food, transport or Shelter.

The allies destroyed the food stores, the trains, the train yards and basically all shelter.
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>>283878
>>283887
Source of this quote is Hitler's revolution by Richard Tedor:
>Defying liberal democracy, Adolf Hitler transformed Germany into an authoritarian state advocating sovereignty of nations, advancement of labor, preservation of the white race, and commerce based on exchange of wares to replace the international gold standard. Becoming chancellor in 1933, he tackled his country s bankruptcy, massive unemployment, Communist subversion and foreign domination. His social economic programs and diplomacy restored German prosperity and independence in three years, despite opposition from Western democratic leaders.

Fuck off to >>>/pol/
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>>283674
Prime Directive EXTERMINATE the whole human race.
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>>283914
That's mostly not wrong though. Even from a mainstream perspective.

"fuck off to pol" is not a valid argument
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>>283900
>The Germans initially wanted a thin strip of territory as to connect rail/road lines with East Prussia.

The Germans had a railroad connection where their trains could ride undisturbed and Poles could not touch them.

>>283900
>West Prussia was given to poland just so Poland would have a link to the Sea

It was given to Poland mostly because Poles were a majority there.

>>283900
>Isolating East Prussia as an enclave is both moronic and obviously going to become a contentious territorial issue.

East Prussia was not isolate for fuck's sake.
Jeez. The level of ignorance about the topic among the keyboard warriors is staggering.
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>>283878
>203. Preradovich, Nikolaus, Deutschland und Polen, p. 211
>Austrian ''historian''
>affiliated with extreme right-wing groups
Wow, objective source friend!
>>283883
>the holocaust was a product of Allied propaganda
You can say whatever you want, however Holocaust has enormous amount of material evidence, as well as shitload of testimonies from Nazis themselves.
Alleged Danzig massacres have none.
>the Germans got the blame for the massacre of Polish officers
Germans did massacre Polish officers and started action against Polish intelligentsia. However, Katyn was done by Soviets. And that became widely known as early as 50's, and was finally recognized after opening of archives in 90's.
>The treaty was denied and he was later attacked.
Of course, because he wanted a piece of land from a sovereign country. Poles had every right to deny him that.
>One more thing, why didn't England go to war against Soviet Union when they did just the same thing as Germany towards Poland?
Because they couldn't do that. Because Germans were bigger threat. Realpolitik. However I fail to see how that serves to support your argument.
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>>283829

>Just like the mass deportations of Germans, which was worse than the 'holocaust'

Das sum low quality bait son
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>>283911

BS. Germany had full stores of provisions in 1945. There was few munitions, but no shortage of food or blankets.

But even if they didn't have them, it was plain criminal to order the most vulnerable to leave the relative safety of their homes in the dead of winter.
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>>283900
>How dare Britain honour its treaties by declaring war on Germany, don't they know Hitler was busy trying to declare war on neutral countries?!

You are this stupid.

You're a naziboo, it's great, but don't think for a moment you're not being willfully ignorant.
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>>283924
no, the railway is what hitler demanded, he never demanded the whole strip back
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>>283900
>Film, Press from the time period
German film and press? Don't act fucking dumb. Nothing happened to Germans in Czechoslovakia. They chimped out, and then got separated.
However, that didn't satisfy Hitler, so he went in and occupied entire Czech land. Defying the treaty he signed only few months before that.
Why the fuck would anyone trust or support this man? Are you dumb?
>If land that a country occupied in the 18th
It was Polish land, which was Polish for centuries, and then got occupied by Germans, who settled Germans there, while evicting Poles. Still, Poles were majority.
By what fucking right is that land German?
>Poland was enlarged
Poland was actually smaller than historical Poland. Why are you lying?
>Germany announced its intentions for Polish territory prior to the recent guarantees.
And I can announce my intentions to rape your mother. Does that make me righteous?
>they would have responded to the peace offers
>reasonable proposals
What reasonable proposals? ''Give us what we want or we'll invade'' proposal is reasonable?
They did that in regards to Czechoslovakia and Hitler shat on that agreement.
He also outlined his goals, to conquer East for German settlement. Why would someone trust this man, I ask you again?
Poles understood well that if they let Germans have just a bit, they'll soon take everything.
>Britain NEEDED Germany to fall
...how does this support your argument? Are you sane?
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>>283924
>he Germans had a railroad connection where their trains could ride undisturbed and Poles could not touch them.

That's exactly what I described, and there is nothing wrong with that

>It was given to Poland mostly because Poles were a majority there.

The West didn't care about that, that's just garbage they used to justify their actions.

If that was the case, why was there a provision against unification of Germany and Austria in the treaties?

And East Prussia was isolated, it relied mostly on Sea transport and land transport that was controlled by poles.

>>283937
proofs?
>>283925
>You can say whatever you want, however Holocaust has enormous amount of material evidence, as well as shitload of testimonies from Nazis themselves.


No mass graves, only the strategic confession of a small minority of those involved. Many who were involved deny it too, but no one ever gives any attention to that.

>ecause they couldn't do that. Because Germans were bigger threat. Realpolitik. However I fail to see how that serves to support your argument.

It was because they needed Germany gone to open the way for British domination, the British Government didn't think the Soviet union could challenge them as effectively.

>>283939
But Britain did the exact same thing, yet when Hitler does it is license to start wars that kill 60 million.

I'm not being ignorant at all, "Justifications" and etc are all subjective.
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>>283900
>why didn't England annex Hannover in 1945?
Because the Kingdom of Hanover was never part of the United Kingdom, the two kingdoms were for a time in a personal union under the same monarch? The British never settled Hanover either.
British monarchs had officially relinquished all their personal claims on German lands by the end of WWI anyway.
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>>283776
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>>283947

It's funny how uninformed are the Naziboos.

The German HAD a railroad connection since 1920. The trains were locked and ride through Polish territory undisturbed.

The railroad was a subject of a major crisis in 1925, when it derailed around Starogard with 29 fatalities. The Germans claimed that Poles kept the railroad in appaling conditions. In response Poles created an international commission which determined that tracks were damaged by a local man (ironically, an ethnic German) who worked out of personal spite after he got fired from the railroad company.
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>>283960

>Hitler wuz a gud boi he dindu nuffin
>Holocaust wuz British proaganda
>Germany is the real victim

Dont know why people are responding to this desu. its an obvious troll or somebody midway through huffing paint
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>>283960
>Britain did the exact same thing

at what point did britain invade neutral countries without casus belli in europe after 1900

You are being ignorant, the root cause of WW2 is much clearer than say, WW1, because without Hitler defying agreements and treaties with expansionist policy, you don't get WW2.
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>>283960
>The West didn't care about that
It doesn't matter what West cared about, don't you get that you idiot? West did nothing illegal in regards to this situation.
Germans INVADED Poland, which was GUARANTEED by UK and France. Invading other countries was against fucking international law, even in 30's.
So what if East Prussia was isolated? That gave right to Germans to invade other countries and kill people?
>No mass graves
...what? There's shitload of mass graves, in Ukraine and Belarus, where Jews were shot rather than gassed.
>only the strategic confession of a small minority
Absolutely not true. Shitload of people confessed, and the fact chief people did it too only strengthens the argument, it doesn't weaken it you dumb moron.
There's also physical evidence, do you understand?
>It was because they needed Germany gone to open the way
It doesn't matter what they needed.
They didn't invade Germany, nor did Poland invade Germany. Germany invaded Poland.
Now if you can't understand the implications of this, I suggest you go to psychologist and get your IQ checked. You might be borderline retarded.
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>>283977
>reliable sources are for good goys
>>>/trash/
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>>283958
>It was Polish land, which was Polish for centuries, and then got occupied by Germans, who settled Germans there, while evicting Poles. Still, Poles were majority.
By what fucking right is that land German?

Because it was German for centuries, a bunch of Polish pleb peasants and what happened 300 years before doesn't change that.

>Poland was actually smaller than historical Poland. Why are you lying?

It was much larger than Congress Poland, and it even invaded Lithuania.

>And I can announce my intentions to rape your mother. Does that make me righteous?

No, but if I announced my intentions to steal back my car that was stolen from me, from you. I would be in the right.

The reasonable proposal was a railroad/road strip to East Prussia.

And after the invasion he still made peace offers.

It does support my argument, Britain was just looking for an excuse to declare war. That's why they didn't declare war on the Soviets.
>>283980
Didn't include a road link, also did nothing for the German minority in Western Prussia.
>>283981
How so? Britain has for centuries done whatever it wanted to ensure its hegemony in Europe.

From wasting european lives on fighting idiotic wars against Napoleon, to wasting European lives on fighting idiotic wars against Hitler, to fighting idiotic wars against the Kaiser.
>>283982
Vichy France, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and they were planning to invade Norway.
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>>283981
Neither, that's just your average /pol/tard.
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>>284001
>Didn't include a road link,

It fucking did include a road link. A link which was beyond jurisdiction of Polish authorities.

The story about no link is just propaganda for idiots who have no idea about the subject.
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>>283996
>Germans INVADED Poland, which was GUARANTEED by UK and France

they didn't have the means, the intention, or even the desire to defend Poland.
Chamberlain thought Danzig should be German
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>>283996
>It doesn't matter what West cared about, don't you get that you idiot? West did nothing illegal in regards to this situation.

Because it underlines why they did these actions in the first place.

The German invasion of Poland was justified as they failed to meet the German ultimatum and grant back Germany it's rightful lands. France and Britain were the aggressors getting involved in something they had no business getting involved in.
>..what? There's shitload of mass graves, in Ukraine and Belarus, where Jews were shot rather than gassed.

Mostly by local collaborators. There are no mass graves for the death camps.

> the argument, it doesn't weaken it you dumb moron.

It does completely, obviously if one was to fake this story you'd just bribe/threaten the key actors into going along with it.

And none of that proves it was on such a large scale, it doesn't prove numbers and it doesn't prove Hitler even ordered it.

>They didn't invade Germany, nor did Poland invade Germany. Germany invaded Poland.

They needed any excuse possible to justify declaring war on Germany to their own populations. Poland brought the invasion on itself.
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>>284001
>From wasting european lives on fighting idiotic wars against Napoleon, to wasting European lives on fighting idiotic wars against Hitler, to fighting idiotic wars against the Kaiser.
Man, I'm a French guy who thinks Britain is to blame for everything that went wrong in the 19th and 20th centuries, but I'm noticing a pattern of you blaming the UK for stopping guys who tried to conquer half of Europe on a whim.
Of course intervention benefited the UK, but the aggressor is obviously in the wrong here.
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>>284001
>it was German for centuries
For exactly two centuries. It was Polish for far longer.
>bunch of Polish pleb peasants
Look, maybe in your mind German>Pole, but it doesn't serve your argument.
That land had Polish majority which was oppressed and which resented German rule. As soon as they could, they liberated themselves from it. Case closed.
Now, if you're claiming Germans had some ''natural'' right to kill and take whatever they wanted, that's your choice. But you can't use that as an argument, you dumb ass.
>It was much larger than Congress Poland
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Congress Poland was Russian part of Poland. Poland as it existed in 18th century was much larger.
>that was stolen from me
Okay, since your mentality is so idiotic, what about Slavic lands in Eastern Germany that Germans stole?
According to your dumb logic, they are rightfully Slav.
Now, if you backpedal and say that only strength matters, Germans got raped by Slavs. So what the fuck are you crying about?
You don't have right in either moral or practical sense. You lost.
>was a railroad/road strip to East Prussia
That already existed.
Hitler wanted that strip of land to belong to Germany. It would be a start of German conquest of Poland. If Poles accepted, soon more demands would follow, and Poland would go the way of Czechoslovakia.
>Britain was just looking for an excuse
Yeah, that's why they surrendered Czechoslovakia to Hitler.
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>>284001
>How so? Britain has for centuries done whatever it wanted to ensure its hegemony in Europe.

>From wasting european lives on fighting idiotic wars against Napoleon, to wasting European lives on fighting idiotic wars against Hitler, to fighting idiotic wars against the Kaiser.

Britain waged wars in Europe pre-1815 so Germany has free reign to annex neutral countries and implement a policy of Genocide. Oh okay senpai thanks for teaching me
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>>284021
And what does that have to do with what we're discussing here?
Jesus Christ...
>>284028
>as they failed to meet the German ultimatum
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>it's rightful lands
You still fail to explain why were they ''rightful''.
>Poland brought the invasion on itself.
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Dude, you're basically proclaiming Germans to be arbiters of world and Germans get to decide whatever is righteous according to them and everyone who disagrees is evil.
Now I understand that this sounds normal in your mind, but according to most of the world, it's not.
In fact, I think you have mental illness.
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>>284037
It depends, we know that a unified Europe would achieve much more for it's people and for the world than a divided Europe. So If we consider this the ultimate good or a root objective then the British have been against these for literal centuries.

Napoleon was close, Hitler was closer.

There are numerous cases of aggressors being considered right in retrospect.

>>284039
>For exactly two centuries. It was Polish for far longer.

So? Most of Europe was under control of Rome, that doesn't give Italy a valid claim.

Poland should have continued not existing, it exists for 20 years and it caused a world war.

>Congress Poland was Russian part of Poland. Poland as it existed in 18th century was much larger.

You mean Poland-Lithuania, that's not Poland. It was a shitty ineffective state that collapsed at the first sign of trouble.
>Hitler wanted that strip of land to belong to Germany. It would be a start of German conquest of Poland. If Poles accepted, soon more demands would follow, and Poland would go the way of Czechoslovakia.

That's a counterfactual claim, you can't actually prove he would have made more demands. He probably would have kept the Poles for an ally against the Soviets.
>Yeah, that's why they surrendered Czechoslovakia to Hitler.

They couldn't do shit at the time, No one in the UK wanted to fight for the Czechs.
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>>284045
Britain annexed and invaded neutral countries and also genocided people.

What's wrong with genocide in the first place?
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>>284073
>It depends, we know that a unified Europe would achieve much more for it's people and for the world than a divided Europe.
"We"?
>So If we consider this the ultimate good or a root objective then the British have been against these for literal centuries.
Again, what the fuck do Britain's geopolitical ambitions have to do with the fact that Napoleon, Hitler, and co alienated half the world by casually declaring war and annexing countries?
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>>284077
>What's wrong with genocide in the first place?
If there's nothing wrong with genocide, why did the massacre of ethnic germans justify invading Poland?
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>>284077

>What's wrong with genocide in the first place?


XD
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>>284084
It has a lot to do that all of Britain's claims and actions are inherently hypocritical and antithetical to what is good as i described it.

They invaded Neutral countries, they invaded Vichy France (Which was the legitimate government of France), They invaded Iran, and they had no problem forsaking Poland to the communists.
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>>284096
Prove there is something objectively wrong with it
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>>284098
I'll give you a 2/10 for holding my attention for so long.
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>>284073
>Most of Europe was under control of Rome
I seriously don't know how to reply to this.
Prussia (not Germany) occupied land which was Polish for centuries, and inhabited by Poles.
They lose that land (still Polish majority) after WW1.
How the fuck is that rightful German land?
You are literally retarded. Your idea of rightfulness is based on conquest, yet only when Germans conquer something. If someone else conquers what Germans controlled, it's not righteous. Are you aware of how dumb you sound?
>Poland should have continued not existing, it exists for 20 years and it caused a world war.
Germany as united country existed for exactly 68 years when WW2 erupted.
And they caused two bloodiest conflicts in European history in those 68 years.
So using your logic, Germany shouldn't exist either.
>You mean Poland-Lithuania, that's not Poland
...
>you can't actually prove he would have made more demands
Just like you can't prove anything you say, except that quote above, which I have shown to have come from a far-right Austrian ''historian''.

Your argument now basically dwindled to ''Germans are master race, they have the right to do whatever they want and everyone who opposes them is evil''.
I'm done responding to you, because I actually appear more retarded for even acknowledging your insane claims.
Bye.
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>>284101
But it's correct, there is nothing factually wrong in that post.
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It's regrettable that Hitler was a coward and chose an easy way out

Churchill would have borrowed an electric chair and and he would be fried like a regular gangster

That would be befitting
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>>284056
>Be Fascist Poland
>Sitting in on Versailles treaty negotiations
>ridiculous demands being thrown around left and right
>peep in, "u-uh and I'd like West Prussia
>sure Poland

>20 years later
>"Alright Poland give us our fucking city back you little shit, you can keep most of the land anyway and join us against the Soviets"
>"Hold up chap! If you take your, I mean Poland's city back you're at war with us"
>"sir we can't defend them"
>"I know lol"

>multiple peace offers refused
>"suck my dick Germoney"
>gets shit pushed in

Hitler was really the only reasonable one at that point
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>>284149
>P-Poles would have prospered in Grossgermanium imperiales Überreich!
>They could've kept their country!
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>it's a "blame the allies" and "Nazi apologism" thread
oy vey
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>>284177
That's future settlement areas as a result of the invasion of Poland, they didn't invade Poland thinking of these plans.

Most of that is nonsense anyway, the holocaust is fiction.
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>>284177
>The majority of Jews in prewar Europe resided in eastern Europe. The largest Jewish communities in this area were in Poland, with about 3,000,000 Jews (9.5%); the European part of the Soviet Union, with 2,525,000 (3.4%); and Romania, with 756,000 (4.2%). The Jewish population in the three Baltic states totaled 255,000: 95,600 in Latvia, 155,000 in Lithuania, and 4,560 in Estonia. Here, Jews comprised 4.9%, 7.6%, and 0.4% of each country's population, respectively, and 5% of the region's total population.
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>>284149
>Versailles treaty negotiations
>fascist
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>>284124
Churchill should have been killed instead
>>284180
But it's true, look at the world now, this is the result of the allied victory.
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>>283829
>which was worse than the 'holocaust'
>>283848
>over a million died in the mass expulsions
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>>284099
You're right, anon. Dresden bombings and the rape of all those german women by the soviets were completely okay.
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Looks like Goebbels was a propaganda master, because people still believe his shit 70 years later.
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>>283883
>One more thing, why didn't England go to war against Soviet Union when they did just the same thing as Germany towards Poland?
Churchill actually wanted to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
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>Germany illegally invades and occupied Poland, Czechoslovakia, Rhineland
>hurf durf who cares about laws might makes right
>German colonisers deported post war, German aggression stopped by perfidious Albion
>hurf durf that's illegal
Why are Nazis so retarded?
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>>283848
>over a million

What an over inflated figure. Non-Kraut sources indicate the MOST was 100,000--and most of that was from disease.
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>>283674
This is what happens when you encourage a fifth column to stir up trouble. The only thing you have to do is sit back and wait for the people to be put down, then cry about human rights and oppression.

Germany got everything they deserved and more.
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Goodness. Those were ladies. Those people are evil. There is only one way to kill a lady. And its the only way proven to work. And it is by killing them with your charm and humor. sick sick people, whoever did this.
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>mfw Danzig was majority German
>mfw the majority of the city wanted to join Germany again
>mfw if anyone but Hitler had been leader of Germany Danzig would have peacefully hoisted the German flag again by 1945

All they had to do was wait and ask for a plebiscite. Maybe offer to use German engineering build a large port in Gdynia as a trade for the Polish not objecting.

But no. Hitler had to chimp out, and now Danzig and all of Eastern Prussia is lost to Germany forever. Fucking Hitler ruined everything he touched.
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no. i hid them all in my backyard. theyre all still there. they are really annoying, i may massacre them myself.
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