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Who's to blame for the crusades

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Why do people blame the Christians for the crusades while the Muslims get off completely free for encroaching on christian land and provoking them to go to war.
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>>20041
Muslims cannot do wrong. This is fact.
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>you will never know the pure triumph of throwing back the Muslim hordes and holding the gates of Vienna
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Because the Muslim conquests of the Mediterranean are never taught and you're to just assume they've always had it? Like, the Reconquista isn't just a fucking name.
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>>20041
Because liberals
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Why do people blame the white people for the creation of the jim crow laws while black people get off completely free for encroaching on white land and provoking them into separating the two races.
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>>20041
Muslims and, ironically, Euroscentric learning
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who cares post cool knights
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>>20041
The Crusades were a waste of time. They failed to hold ground and lots of them were not even aimed at the Muslims at all. Christians would have been better off sending their crusading armies to Spain.
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If the Catholics wouldn't have randomly attacked Constantinople, then people might have a less negative outlook on the whole business, but they did, and it's done.
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>>20041

The declaration of war on the christian side is completely justified both biblical and politically.

The actions of individual crusaders are just that, individual actions.
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cool knight of the 20th century for you boys
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The answer is simple.
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>>20098
blacks cannot do wrong. This is fact.
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>>20108
ok
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>England's flag is a crusader's cross
God i love my country, shame it's so shit at the moment
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>>20108
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>>20130
>Byzantine emperor asks Pope for help
>Sure thing buddy, I'll start reconquering Spain for you
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>>20108
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>>20177
That is the most disgusting lie I've ever read.
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>>20041
Because it doesn't fit the narrative, and is considered racist. Cultural Marxism is anti-western and Islam does not fall into that category.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
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>>20257
see>>20080
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>>20246
>Byzantines ask for help
>Crusaders sack the capital of the Byzantine empire
Lets just admit that the crusades were not exactly serving Byzantine interests.
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>>20246
>byzantine emperor asks for 3-5k professional soldiers
>send huge mobs and armies consist of petty princes to establish your dominance in east

what a great buddy pope was
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>>20041
>Blame
It was a bunch of people killing each other I don't think that the first thing on anybody's mind should be blame. Religious tension and clashing doctrines might be the best answer I guess.
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>>20108
joe
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>>20289
The first few had good intentions for their Christian brothers. Until the merchants learned they could exploit it to make more money by weakening Byzantine trade in the area
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>>20361
the average chap who was in crusades? surely
the pope and majority of the nobles ? nope, they basically said fuck you to Roman Emperor
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>>20108
celebrate cool knights
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Have you killed a heretic today /his/?
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>>20592
just killed a papist in the name of one true orthodox church.
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