/icg/: Islamic Civilisation General

>>1604
>sweden
MEME

>>1604
>sweden
MEME

>>1604
>islamic civilsation
>generals
Fucked up twice lad

>>1604

Why was it so shitty

>>1809
>>1830
>>1853
>>1855

good to know /hist/ is literal int-tier cancer.

>islamic
>civilization
>general
>sweden

>>1809
>داعش او عباد حسين

>>1830
>يهود

who is your favorite caliph?

Reporting for duty

2000 get

>>1943
Ali bin abi talib desu

>>1943
most interesting is Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan

>>1908
What would you expect tho

>>1908
It's actually disappointing. We need moderation to stop this from being another int or pol

>>2110
>implying it hasn't already become int + pol

>>1943
>who is your favorite caliph?
hussein (saw)

>>2175
>implying there's a difference

>>1920
It is an interesting topic. Especially if you spend your spare time reading about it. But of course you ameridumbs don't read anything but NFL historical stats and WW2

>>1943
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) tbuh

>>2266
how can the prophet be the successor of himself?

>>2175
>advertising on /int/
>complaining about int cancer

>>2303
He is the first caliph you dumb swedistani

>>1604
Have sources on medical practices?

>>2366
caliph literary means successor

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>>2366
>He is the first caliph

>>2366
That's like saying Jesus was the first pope you dummy.

>>2388
what excatly are you looking for?
>>2366
halife-i resullullah

>>1604
>swekeks

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>>1604
>be muslim during golden age
>making groundbreaking contributions to fields of mathematics and science, as usual
>just finish writing a book about my discoveries on the properties of light
>put on the shelf full of other great scholarly works of literature
>go out to the city full of architectural masterpieces to pick up groceries
>mfw i get back and all the books are on fire
>mfw its the christians because they are mad
>mfw they are killing muslims because they have to pay a small tax
>mfw christians dont contribute to society in the slightest while we do all the innovating and war-fighting
>mfw christians are literally against knowledge and are throwing a revolution to become stupider

>>2366
He was not a caliph. Abu Bakr was the first caliph, the non-prophetic leader of secular affairs of the Muslims and successor in that regard to Muhammad.

>>2658
wasn't it a muslim who proposed the theory of evolution long before darwin?
I feel like people are burying facts about their history now that we are supposed to hate them

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>>2658
>be muslim during golden age
>making groundbreaking contributions to fields of mathematics and science, as usual
>just finish writing a book about my discoveries on the properties of light
>put on the shelf full of other great scholarly works of literature
>go out to the city full of architectural masterpieces to pick up groceries
>mfw i get back and all the books are on fire
>mfw its the mongols

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صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم

>>2635
I know medicine supposedly survived better over there, so I want to know where do people got the idea.

>>2901
The region has many ancient cultures in there, as in e.g. Egyptians

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Tell me about Akşemseddin, why was he called White Light of Islam?

>>2883

But what's behind the door?

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>be muslim in Baghdad
>get killed because of Mongols
>get keked from my wife with Mongols
>my Christian asshole neighbor gets to own my house and money

>>2969
probably a mosque

>>2969
A powerful marid jinn not-so-anonymous anon

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>>1604
>Islamic
>Civilization

Pick one.

Isn't it a bit early for a general?

>>3072
This isn't /pol/.

>>2969
the picture name says the prophet's mosque

>>3072
If you're posting on /his/ you're expected to have a basic knowledge of history. Thanks!

>>1943
Ali b. Abi Talib by far.

>>3072
Can't

there are too many to pick from and they all intertwine

>>3181
I prefer the Abbasid Caliphate under the control of the Buyids. A great deal of scholarship and community was fostered there. Baghdad was a huge center for learning at that time.

>>3160
why?

>>3072
go shitpost on your containment board faggot.

>>3266
Umayyads set the tone for where the (what we se today) islamic borders would be set.

Of the Umayyads, the best caliphs are Muawiya I and Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan

>>2967
A wise man guidimg thw conqueror of Constantine. What else to call him?

What books would I need to start with if I wanted to learn about Islamic history?

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Boasting under 10k post count.

>>3607
holy qu'ran

>>3607
Best would be start with where it all started, reading the biography of the Prophet Muhammed.

An easy to read book would be "In the Footsteps of the Prophet". A more extensive book would be the 3 volume one by Dr Ali Sallabi called "The noble life of the Prophet"

>you will never be a trendsetting singer, oud player, composer, poet, polymath, with knowledge in astronomy, geography, meteorology, botanics, cosmetics, culinary art and fashion
>you will never be Abu l-Hasan ‘Ali Ibn Nafi‘

>>3794
Thank you, anon, I'll look into them.

>>4069
I like how nowadays you get some specialised scientist who makes a breakthrough in some field, and then you get some classical era person like Abu l-Hasan who did that PLUS contributed to like 10 other fields.

>>4193
You do realize that these are two completely different things though

>>2781
Ibn Khaldun presented an early theory of evolution yes.

>>4193
i think this is mainly because of how deep fields have become nowadays.

Compare that to back in the day were people who'd be known as "people who knew everything".

maybe i'm wrong.

>>4297
ah that was his name thanks.

>>2781
It is annoying to see that ordinary people can't name one famous person like Ibn Khaldun from that era because it literally is never mentioned when much is concentrated on 1700 and forwards which gives an impression that everyone was retarded until we ditched religion and went full science. And this only leads to fedora tipping.

Only if you read for yourself do you find out things like how Rene Decartes basically ripped off Al Ghazali and how influneced european scholars were by works and scholars from the islamic civilisations. And this is in all fields, from law to chemistry to philosophy.

Flags and ID:s are gone lads

>>4277
I know that things are different, yes.

>>4525
>Flags and ID:s are gone lads
now we just need mods.

>>4588
Basically >>4299
>>4506
How do you think was this information transportated (serious question), I doubt they could speak arabic

>>4720
Arabic isn't difficult to learn, especially considering many rich people used to send their kids to learn in places like these.

Fibonacci for example was sent to study in Bejaia, Algeria.

Also with the fall of Andalusia many works were available to them and much was probably translated.

It is not like there wasn't any interaction at all.

>>4720
Didn't the Arabic get translated in the lingua franca Latin?

>>5850
Arabic was and still is the Lingua Franca of the Islamic world and a lot was translated to latin back in the day.

>>2390
It meant Deputy of God in the first half of the Umayyad period, then came to mean successor.

>>2658
>>mfw its the christians because they are mad
When did this ever happen? Or are you talking about the Crusades?