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I don't think so. I have the impression that suffering is unhealthy compared to the absence of suffering, in the sense that the biological state of the suffering body (whether the suffering is physical or mental in origin) is inferior to the biological state of the unsuffering body. And if it's really the case that suffering is bad for you because it represents a stress carried by the body, then I wouldn't call it the natural state. The organism didn't evolve, I think, in order to carry a stress as part of its natural functioning.
However, adult humans are aware of their own mortality and general vulnerability, which tends to impose a background strain on the psyche - and hence, the body. This is probably a recent development in evolutionary history, a fresh challenge to the basic biology. I don't think it's necessarily inevitable. There might be superior attitudes toward mortality and vulnerability, and superior childraising methods, which result in a relationship with the facts of mortality and vulnerability that does not impose a continuous stress.

I don't know whether it is the basic condition of human existence, but the thing about suffering is that now matter how good one's life outwardly is, it is possible to suffer and feel like shit. Now some people manage to be happy under surprisingly shitty circumstances, however under sufficiently shitty outward circumstances it is impossible to be happy I think. There's physical suffering that simply can't be hand waved away with any philosophy or positive attitude. So there's that kind of shitty asymmetry to life, suffering and happiness.

I personally believe that the default human condition is one of neither suffering nor happiness. I mean, think about it, how often can you say you're truly happy or truly suffering?

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>>3359786
Is it you /leftypol/ baiter?
You probbaly have it confused with Polish Operation of NKVD which resulted in death of about 150k random people.
Katyn was just brutal execution of POWs.

Not sure why I even bother with low lifes like you but whenever you make threads like this there's always a chance to educate other people about these events.

Was Helicopters justified /his/? It was essentially a pragmatic decision to remove a socialist fifth column from a Chilean Republic and Commies are still sperging out over it to this day

Was the Holocaust justified /his/? It was essentially a pragmatic decision to remove a rootless cosmopolitan fifth column from a Nazi Germany and Israelis are still sperging out over it to this day

>>3359736

Does needing to poop keep human progress back, or does it help it?

>>3359752

Think of all the philosophy and inventions which were probably dreamed up on the shitter. Helped, no doubt about it

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>>3359752
Back

If we were a liquid only ingesting lifeform there would be less time and resource lost in residue processing

We would simply pee and don't need to worry about wiping and washing our asses.

>Central Asia that high
>China not part of East Asia
>Americas below Sub-Saharan Africa
Shit list

>>3359778
>Central Asia that high
The steppe people had a very, VERY large influence on the world.
>China not part of East Asia
It's literally the only thing worth a damn about East Asia so it deserves to be it's own shit.

>>3359721
Eastern Europe was the home of Proto Indo-Europeans. That alone puts it above everything else.

Whoever has more pervatin/amphetamines and develops superior bombers quicker?

Supposedly the RAF utilized 72 million tabs of amphetamines and the Nazis utilized 20 million Tablets of pervetin for the French campaign, source wiki

>>3359669
Nazi vs. Japan? Probably Germany...

>>3359663
>How are they created
A potent mix of isolationaism, supression of dissent, and authoritarianism, the best way to secure despotic rule is to have as many as possible (with power) recognize your rule as legitimate.
>What drives people to so fervently support murderous tyrants?
Intellectual dishonesty, mostly, the ideas that Monarchy/Socialism/Fascism is a totally legitiamate view, and the requirement of anyone speaking out for those posititons to defend what the public at large see as the embodiment of the system, Tankies deny their famines, Nazis deny their holocausts, and because both of these happened under a despotic government, there's a need that for the ideology to be valid, the despot had to be valid.

Father fixation on a larger level. Nation is in this instance always a mother-figure, while the people are children in need of "care and protection".

Strong, infallible, strict but just father-like figure is protecting his people (children) and his nation (mother). It's a deeply rooted psychological cause.

>>3359663
Well, in North Korea it grew out of Kim Jong-Il's attempts to claim power. People tend to misunderstand and assume Jong-il had power handed to him by Il-sung from the start, but Jong-Il's mother wasn't Il-Sung's official wife. Growing up, his half brothers took precedence.

Excessive praise of his father wasn't just brown nosing though: by doing it he set his father up as a mythical being, which of course made him seem more important. But it also set himself up as a superhuman figure through what he was doing: being the supremely dedicated, loyal and vigilant son, a sign of good moral character in a confucian society.

And most importantly, he did this when foreign exchange was becoming non-existant in the North Korean economy. And he didn't just offer praise but gifts. Vintage wines, western electronics and watches, an entire fucking research institute to extending his father's life, a fucking legion of trained child prostitutes.

And it wasn't like he was just pulling money out of the state budget to pay for this. There was nothing in the state budget to pay for this. Only Kim Jong-Il could secure outside goods like this. And Jong-Il climbed to the top like this.

And he set the pattern of how to move up the ladder in NK politics (especially since the old ways were gone). With rediculous, over the top praise, you're using a rhetorical device that makes you seem better too. By emphasizing how certain you are of Kim Jong-Il's skills as a general, you paint yourself as a loyal and humble soldier, etc. Snd by procuring bribes, you demonstrate how you can back up your words and get things done...which of course, makes it a competition. That's how it quickly gets over the top: tou have multiple officials and factions trying to outdo each other in their extravagant praise and gift giving, and so it takes on a life of it's own, independent of having it beaten into you by official decree.

You used Latin like 20 times simply asking that question in English.

What do you think the romance languages are

>>3359600
Worte sind nicht Sprache

>results can be interpreted in different ways if you define the goals differently

who could have thunk it

>>3359588
civilization is a marathon, not a sprint

>>3359627
>the roman empire isn't around anymore

>"it doesn't work"

The serbs didn't like the Austro-Hungarians.

>>3359572
Well we kind of liked them. They were good for their own people but it was a melting pot. I read something about violence between Croatians and Hungarians in 1910s maybe someone from those countries would tell me what was that all about.
But Princip wasn't a nationalist but pan-Yugoslavianist so in his eyes as long as there were any South Slavic countries in Asutria-Hungary they well all bad period.

>>3359591
I always thought it was more of a "we don't want Austrians in charge of our country"

>>3359485

Based on the painting, it looks like the primary cause was fire.

The sea people's are still pretty irrelevant to the whole collapse. Look up on You tube real quick 1177bc. It's about an hour long video about the bronze age collapse and this guy who also wrote the book explains it pretty well.

>>3359512

Oh I never implied that they caused the collapse. I agree with the theory in what more likely happened is the collapse was already basically done and the Sea Peoples just showed up to take advantage of everyone's naval power being gone.

They became more than just the emperor's bodyguards. It's kinda more like Washington DC's police force being an extremely powerful elite force of soldiers that didn't just keep the capital safe but controlled access to the city.

>>3359481
The Praetorian guards were more than the secret service.
they were the only ones admitted while bearing arms in the center of sacred Rome, and most of the time they sided with whomever paid them best

>>3359528
Is them being able to bear arms the thing that allowed them to turn into a political force?

http://www.pcgamer.com/historical-games/

I don't want to look at the list because I know it's only going to upset me

I'm not clicking that shit.

>>3359423
Africa, Persia, India and China

read a fucking book

>>3359423
themselves you fucking retard

>>3359423

You know how Texas and California trade with each other? Kinda like that.

Not worth the effort for the same reason they didnt bother penetrating the steppes

>>3359421
I thought that was more of "because crazy steppe people live there"

>>3359424
Noe imagine those crazy steppe people but in an inhospitable desert

They couldn't even adequately defend the coastal areas of Africa let alone the interior

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>>3359214
> or even first language amongst non-Turks within the empire?
Yes. For everybody iirc.

>>3359214
Coastal Bulgaria and Romania had sizeable turkish population but they were moved to Anatolia due to 19th century wars. Nevertheless anatolia also had turks

I don't know how many people were bilungual, but the court turkish (ottoman language) was quite different than the turkish of common folk. It is far similar to High Gothic-Low Gothic division in Warhammer 40k. Ottoman Turkish was under heavy influence of arabic and persian, while the turkish people spoke was more true to her origins, and that is the turkish langauge the modern turks speak right now

We spoke nilo saharan languages mostly but women preferred to speak germanic languages