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/his, how could people go to war with one another when they both served the same person?
What I mean is petty fiefdoms going against one another in a struggle for hegemony, as happened so many times in China and Japan. What puzzles me isn't that they would disregard the man at the top, but that they would do so when the chain of command, respect, and obedience are so pivotal to their culture.
Take a samurai for example. They served their daimyo until the bitter end (at least in theory). They were supposed to do whatever was best for their lord, right? No matter what? So how could it be that all these top dogs that were loyal to the capital, instead of staying their hand and trying to preserve peace in the name emperor, instead vied for power at a constant basis? And I'm not asking what the socio-economic motivating factors might have been. I understand the pull of history and human incentives. What I'm asking is how these people rationalized taking such action. How did they think plunging their country into endless slaughter could possibly be in the best interest of the emperor? What was their philosophical justification for bringing about strife and misery, when they were technically sworn to protect and upkeep the peace?
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To answer your question generally, read Machiavelli, or Han Fei.
To answer your question specifically, the emperor was a meme and everyone knew it. So fuck him and the divine wind he rode in on we gonna get ours and if some punk has to eat a naginata welp.
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>>2873387
I mean, this. The emperor is great and all but for most of Japanese and Chinese history the Emperor is a paper tiger.
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>>2873368
the thing about a hereditary nobility is that people are either born in a position of power or they aren't, so they don't really give much of a shit beyond not doing things that will destroy their status outright.
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Why do so many spergs go for a history degree?
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>>2873321
Because society pretty much wants everyone to have one in order to stay in line and we are bad at everything else
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>>2873321
I have a graduate degree from a top university, and I never regretted it. I combined my studies in history with other studies such as international relations, French and German in order to pursue a career in policy consultancy and diplomacy.
You cannot become an ambassador / policy consultant without a deep knowledge of (modern) political history.
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>>2873321
Because they aren't smart enough for math.
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>*is the path*
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>*takes path*
ahhh.
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>*blocks the path*
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*leaves the path*
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Steppe Nigger Hate Thread: 2017-05-28 04:32:08 Post No.2873303
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Steppe Nigger Hate Thread:
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>Waaah I got conquered Waah my women are raped WAAAH MY CITIES ARE SACKED
Get fucked, faggot
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>>2873303
What kind of Steppe Nigger?
Mongols?
Magyars?
Turks?
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Didn't China end up taking steppenigger clay?
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DNA results thread?
Getting my results in a few weeks
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>Scandinavia
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They were already digging a lot, why didn't they just dig a huge ass long tunnel really deep into the ground all the way to paris?
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>>2872956
aside from being a slow and expesnive process it would mean that if your enemy detected it they could simply collapse that tunnel with explosives and kill all the soldiers
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>>2872956
You have to get past the enemy trench lines to do that, and they were fighting tunnel battles in WW1.
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>>2872979
I meant, make a fucking tunnel UNDER enemy trenches while they were too busy sitting on a trench thinking the main force is on the other side of the gas cloud.
>>2872974
As expensive as dragging the war for 4 years and wasting shells, and ammo to hit nothing?
Also, the ground would be shaking all fucking day because of shells, who the fuck would figure a tunnel was being excavated a hundred meters below them?
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did capitalism kill morality? it seems like, especially in the USA, duty and morality has been replaced by quick satisfaction and selfishness due in large part to companies selling and promoting these behaviors (condom companies, tech companies, fast food, etc.). thoughts?
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>>2872918
Commercialism, public schooling, and family upbringing
we know that morality wanes eventually in every form of government
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>capitalism
no.
>technology
yes
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>>2872941
I'd say the oppressive and alienating nature of life under capitalism is exactly what pushes people to quick satisfaction, and the constant fight for survival against one's peers encourages selfishness. So I disagree with you.
Is esoteric Christianity the new fedora?
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>>2872860
well we are crossing out psalms and verses in the good book everyday , something has to take its place
so new shit comes along
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What is this?
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>>2872871
try using this website new friend
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/his/ book recommendation thread
I've been reading The Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham, which I've found to be a good read.
I was interested in a book on the history of western asia/the middle east from Sumer up to the Greco-Persian wars, or even anything short of that. It's hard to find a podcast or even a good course on anything form this period at my university so I figured I'd have to find a good book on it.
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Origins of Totalitarianism by Hannah Arendt is genuinely interesting if you care about the origins of modern antisemitism and the mechanisms by which governments become totalitarian.
She was also a student of Heidegger which is interesting in and of itself.
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Civilization before Greece and Rome by H.W.F. Saggs is a good overview of Bronze Age civilization focusing on Mesopotamia. Start here.
Brotherhood of Kings by Amanda Podany is good on diplomacy in the Bronze Age and is an easy read.
There are multiple recent books about the civilizational collapse at the end of the Bronze Age. I read and liked Collapse of the Bronze Age by Manuel Robbins, but there's also 1177 bc by Eric Cline.
It's a really interesting era to learn about.
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I didn't know shit about Bolivar before I read this at a whim and now he's one of my favourite historical figures. Highly recommended.
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New /his/ discord server 2017-05-28 12:48:07 Post No.2872728
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New discord server for debates surrounding history.
https://discord.gg/NYdGns
Growing very fast.
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>>2872728
Quite memulous desu, joining later
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>>2872731
I thank you
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>>2872728
Looks memey
But sure
Why do people get upset when African-Americans larp as African civilizations, when AFRICAN is literally in their moniker?
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>>2872661
We should ban these types of threads.
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>>2872663
You realize this is Humanities, right?
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lets just formally accept that every good thing every came from blacks and every bad thing ever came from whites, that way the bitching might finally stop aswell
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Leave the Russians to me.
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BROKEN DREAMS SO GRAND
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>>2872544
SING OF HIS FINAL STAND
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So in 1900 Britain was the most important country because it had the most ships. Is naval power still important today, is america the strongest nation today because it's fleets dwarf everyone else?
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>>2872499
>Is naval power still important today,
Practically the only way to guarantee power projection.
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naval power is more so tied with air power in modern times. naval power is important to protect your carriers and various bases that project air power. any thing a ship could sink or explode a plane could sink or explode as well.
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>>2872499
I think the advances in air support equalised the field a substantial bit. Since well flying you can go anywhere any terrian mostly and its the field which offers the most space for innovation. abd then nukes came around and they became the most important aspect. Also nukes in general are a good indicator of other aspects of their armed forces.
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>>2872488
*rambles incoherently and doesn't cite any sources*
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>>2872506
his sources are him reenacting medieval battles
see the backstabbing video
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>>2872488
Give me one good reason why i shouldn't watch and then source him in my conversation.
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Canaanites (Achmed, Niggers, and pol lose). 2017-05-27 11:03:47 Post No.2872442
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Canaanites (Achmed, Niggers, and pol lose).
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>Abstract: The Canaanites inhabited the Levant region during the Bronze Age and established a culture which became influential in the Near East and beyond. However, the Canaanites, unlike most other ancient Near Easterners of this period, left few surviving textual records and thus their origin and relationship to ancient and present-day populations remain unclear. In this study, we sequenced five whole-genomes from ~3,700-year-old individuals from the city of Sidon, a major Canaanite city-state on the Eastern Mediterranean coast. We also sequenced the genomes of 99 individuals from present-day Lebanon to catalogue modern Levantine genetic diversity. We find that a Bronze Age Canaanite-related ancestry was widespread in the region, shared among urban populations inhabiting the coast (Sidon) and inland populations (Jordan) who likely lived in farming societies or were pastoral nomads. This Canaanite-related ancestry derived from mixture between local Neolithic populations and eastern migrants genetically related to Chalcolithic Iranians. We estimate, using linkage-disequilibrium decay patterns, that admixture occurred 6,600-3,550 years ago, coinciding with massive population movements in the mid-Holocene triggered by aridification ~4,200 years ago. We show that present-day Lebanese derive most of their ancestry from a Canaanite-related population, which therefore implies substantial genetic continuity in the Levant since at least the Bronze Age. In addition, we find Eurasian ancestry in the Lebanese not present in Bronze Age or earlier Levantines. We estimate this Eurasian ancestry arrived in the Levant around 3,750-2,170 years ago during a period of successive conquests by distant populations such as the Persians and Macedonians.
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>However, the present-day Lebanese, in addition to their Levant_N and Iranian ancestry, have a component (11-22%) related to EHG and Steppe populations not found in Bronze Age populations (Figure 3A). We confirm the presence of this ancestry in the Lebanese by testing f4(Sidon_BA, Lebanese; Ancient Eurasian, Chimpanzee) and find that Eurasian hunter-gatherers and Steppe populations share more alleles with the Lebanese than with Sidon_BA (Figure 3B). We next tested a model of the present-day Lebanese as a mixture of Sidon_BA and any other ancient Eurasian population using qpAdm. We found that the Lebanese can be best modelled as Sidon_BA 93±1.6% and a Steppe Bronze Age population 7±1.6% (Figure 3C; Table S6).
Lebanon got BLEACHED
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>>2872452
Can I have the original plot for fuck's SAKE?
Or a decent size