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>tfw you realize everything bad that happened in the 20th century is because of Serbia.
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I think we all owe the Turks an apology for keeping the S*rb menace in check for so long.
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>>2976485
We are sorry turkey we didn't recognize the threat they posed until it was too late
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>>2976473

Serbia wrote "the Chicken Song"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccM4wVgZN9o

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>BCE
>CE
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>>2976437
>became more widely used in the mid-19th century by Jewish academics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era
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>>2976453
EVERY TIME
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Always makes me laugh desu, literally just butthurt on paper.

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I'm reading through the Iliad again and it sort of hit me that these guys are literally stealing shit off the dead in the middle of a hot battle. They're getting shitkicked in the middle of stripping some guy of his armor.

I know discipline was bad, there are Egyptian armies on record looting the battlefield instead of pushing the rout, but it was a rout, this is comically bad discipline.

Is that legit for the time period, or I suppose archaic Greece even when Homer probably drew a lot of his/their inspiration? It just seems monumentally stupid and lacking any common sense.
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Seems like a relatively common occurence throughout history, as armour generally have been among the most expensive items one could own. A Saxon poem details how a viking shieldwall collapsed as the members started to kill eachother over a dead chieftains mail coat.
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>>2976380
Funny you should mention that

>The Afghans were considered a bit too boisterous even in Alexander the Great's time, when Westerners were still willing to admit they too enjoyed the occasional massacre. Now that the West has been taught not to admit such a thing, the Afghans stand out even more, as the last people on Earth who could listen to Homer's poetry and nod their heads, enjoying those page-long descriptions of brains and guts spewing the battlefield without shame. To the Afghans, those Toyotas are Homeric chariots, AKs are heroic weapons, and every day of battle produces tales worthy of another epic poet.

>What is the most obvious thing in every photo from there? The fact that these people enjoy war, consider it essential to every man's life. Try this: a photo from the slaughter in the Mazar fortress showed two turbaned victors leaning over a corpse. One was manipulating a long tweezer, while the other watched, their turbans almost touching the corpse's white face. They were fishing -- fishing for a gold tooth in the mouth of the defeated adversary. What delight was in their faces! What joy, plundering the dead for their gold!
>Or this: a Tajik strolling across a field of bodies at Mazar, AK over his shoulder, carrying one dress shoe and looking for a matching one among the corpses. The Western commentator says, scandalized, "Most of the corpses had already lost their shoes."
>On the Tajik's face, on the faces of all the fighters, was this great big grin. Even the losers, locked into steel containers, looked interested at the next turn their stories might take, and more than resigned to the prospect that the next episode might be their last.
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Basically nobody had proper army discipline during bronze age. And consider that bronze is fucking expensive since you had to trade for tin mostly. A bronze armor would be something only the elite would own.

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Was he truly responsible for Soviet victory at Stalingrad, or was his actual role blown way out of proportion?
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thatd be vatutyin who encircled the 6th army, chuikov did his job not losing stalingrad as long as he did

the plan and supervising preparations was ofcourse the work of zhukov, who did this to the weebs at khalkhin ghol already
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Pic related was the hero of Stalingrad
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>>2976363
He was very much responsible considering Stalin didn't want to focus on a victory there at all.

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So does he just put it on while nobody's looking or is this what museums are like in Europe?
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I can't speak for Sweden but living in Ireland every time I've gone to a museum and wanted to handle something I would generally just ask a passing worker "Hey could I maybe get a closer look at that?" and depending on what the item is they'd either just pop the case open, fetch a pair of gloves and take me to a back room, or politely refuse.

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ITT: We post Ottoman accomplishments

>annoy Europeans with their existence so they began looking for new routes to India
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>>2976030
The biggest Ottoman accomplishment:

>Turning some of the wealthiest, most developed regions in the world into literal third-world backwaters.
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>>2976030
Destroying old Roman roads by having herding animals graze the farmland next to them into nothing, and then the farmers abandon the land and the fruit trees next to the roads they had as their incentive to maintain them.
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>>2976434
tbf the Euros quarried their Roman roads for stone.

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>republic of India
>named after the Indus River
>doesn't even contain it in its borders
Is this the biggest wewuz?
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>>2976005
It's Pakistan being autistic desu
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>>2976005
Pretty much.
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>>2976013
>Actullay "Bharatiya Ganarajya".
>After king Bharata.
>yes in ladakh.
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All humans suddenly turned into snakes, but kept their intelligence and could communicate? How long would it take for society to recover?
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>>2975991
It wouldn't
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>>2975991
>Messing with God's design
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>>2975991
It wouldn't, how the fuck is society supposed to recover without hands?

Can't say I'd be totally disappointed though, I get to be a qt3.14 snek.

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How did we get here? What started all of this? Why are humans the only intelligent life forms?
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Define "intelligent"

Because most of the things humans do exist in other animals. Humans were simply smart enough to reach a critical mass and break the ecosystem around them.

They're like an OP unit in a video game.
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>>2975972
ayy lmao
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>>2975972
Imagination. No joke.

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My great-Grandfather fought in ww2 and brought home many German medals as trophies. Many of which I have trouble Identifying. I was hoping you guys could identify one or 2 of them. Here's the first one
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Heres the 2nd one
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That's coat of arms of Paris. That doesn't look like the medal though, more like some ornamental souvenir.
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>>2975953
So where would they have kept it? From what my grandfather told me all the medals were taken off the body of the Germans he had killed.

As i understand, desertion is WW1 was fucking massive, especially in the final years of war when you literally had entire divisions just freely roaming around Russia and Austria-Hungary. Why wasn't a thing in WW2 since it was much greater and bloodier? Or am i missing something?
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>>2975870
I'd Imagine that both sides in WW2 had a pretty broad idea what they were fighting for, to restore honour taken from them or deposing a pair of unapeasable despots, incomparison to the alliance webs of world war 1
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>>2975870

In WW2, for a Russian soldier to desert, they'd know that they would be putting themselves and their families in danger. There was no never any question that they were fighting not just for the "nation" which is an abstract concept at the end of the day, but rather so that their own friends and family aren't lined up in a field and machine gunned in the name of lebensraum. People are less likely to run away when they feel like they have a personal stake in the war.
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>>2975897
I believe soldiers were much more indoctrinated in WW2 since it was an all-out ideological war. WW1 was probably the last old-school clash of the empires just for the sake of it.

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>Art should imitate nature
>Art should depict ideal beauty

Pick one.
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>>2975866

There is enough room in the world for art to depict both.
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>>2975866
Nature is ideal beauty.
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>>2975869
>Art is subjective

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What solution(s) do libertarians provide for externalities?
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Not history, not humanities
>>>/pol/
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>>2975842
They don't, hence why we developed from classical liberalism to neoliberalism.
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>>2975842
Define "externalities"

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Post pro-communist memes and facts.

> Daily reminder that history is a dialectal worse ultimate outcome is the establishment of a workers' paradise
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Read 'Bloodlands'.

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How does the ideal body varies from culture to culture?
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>>2975603
no. this is and always will be the ideal body type.
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>>2975603
That scuplture is clearly an image of a pregnant woman.
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>>2976768
I don't think so, she look fat not pregnant

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