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Why didn't the American diseases kill the Spanish?
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Because Europeans lived in filth and their diseases were more numerous and more potent. However, syphilis did come from the Amerindians, and it did kill alot of euros. Just not on the scale of smallpox, etc.
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>>3106166
They all ready got diseases from the filthy disgusting mongols which are related to the ameridians.
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>>3106166
Europeans had been exposed to those diseases for thousands of years. Conversely, the natives gave Europeans syphilis which killed many of them

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>January 1945
>Morgenthau Plan exposed
>"LOOK WHAT DA J00S WANT TO DO WITH GERMANY"
>"FIGHT FOR YOUR FÜHRER"
>March 1945
>"DESTROY EVERYTHING, BOMB THE FACTORIES AND BRIDGES"
>"BURN ALL THE FOOD"
>"ALL GERMANS THAT ARENT DEAD YET ARE SUBHUMAN COWARDS"
What did he meant by this?
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"WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHIEEET" - Adolf Hitler
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You know how Germans are so smug about their "superior" country today?

It would be nice if it was PC to remind them that they are the same people who elected this retard who destroyed Europe.

They act so fucking smug about Trump, when they did far worst, not very long ago. Nothing much changed in terms of genetics. They aren't any smarter than their grandparents.
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>>3105956
>Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It isn't enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone axe he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these relegations.
That was probably one of the few things he wasn't autistic about

Why are there people who claim the US is imperialistic when it actually carries freedom and democracy?
The British Empire for example shows what imperialism looks like, not the US.
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>>3105882
>when it actually carries freedom and democracy
stopped reading right there my dude
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>>3105907
>democratically elected president in chile
>CIA coup for a dictator

>actually carries freedom and democracy

There are so many more examples than Chile btw. The USA often decides that when socialists are elected, it isn't "real democracy" and supports military coups.

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He did nothing wrong.
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Correct
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>>3105674
>He did nothing
FTFY

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>kicks the shit out of whole Arab world with a handful of troops
pssh, nothing personnel,goy
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>>3105662
>saves the Jewish race several times
>never proclaimed the Messiah

Explain yourselves, Jews.
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>>3105666
Too Angloboo for them
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>>3105662
>kicks the shit out of whole Arab world with a handful of troops
So like the Houthis?

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Who was worse?
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>>3105614
Honestly, Beria. Beria's shit was so brutal that even Stalin couldn't stand him, so he had Beria executed.
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>>3105663
>5
This
Stalin couldn't stand him that he asked his daughter to leave when around Beria's presence
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>>3105723
Raping women/girls was literally a hobby of Beria's. As fucked up as Stalin was, Beria turned it up to 11.

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Why are these guys responsible for everything bad in history?

Is it because they have nothing better to do up there?

>Fucking up China

>Obliterating Buddhism from India

>Destruction of Baghdad

>Fall of Constantinopolis

>Fall of Persia
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>>3105575
>sending the Huns into Europe
>destroying Rome
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>>3105575
They eat horse, ride horse, drink horse and fuck horse. Of course they are fucked up. Seriously, so many prospering nations had to suffer because of them.
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All of those events listed minus China were done by Persiante Turks or Mongols.

As in as soon as they came into contact with Persian culture and started calling themselves Shah/Khan they became savage retards.

What is the best Christian text, and why is it the Confessions of St. Augustine?

From sentence fucking one this guy starts listing scripture left and right, proving it (not proving the Trinity, proving the scriptures ffs), pointing out flaws in preachers' teachings, using casual analysis to discern the true nature of Him.

Example: You know that theoretical mathematical question "does the set of all sets contain itself?" Well, motherfuckers, this guy was asking this question about God over 1600 years ago, the fuck have you done today?

Page fucking 2: "Since, then, Thou fillest heaven and earth, do they contain Thee? Or, as the contain Thee not, dost Thou fill them, and yet there remains something over? And where dost Thou pour forth that which remaineth of Thee when the heaven and earth are filled? Or, indeed, is there no need that Thou who constainest all things shouldest be contained of any, since those things which Though fillest Though fillest by containing them?"

>spellchecker has an aneurysm after typing that
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Gospel of Nicodemus
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My favourite is the book that says the world is 6000 years old and about to meet its end covered in flames, but fear not because a jewish zombie will arrive flying and take you away to a new world.
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>>3105461
This is basically the religion board, do you make it a habit to go around on every religious post and spread your atheist shills?

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Why, since early modern era West was developing faster than China, and rest of far east? East Asians are intelligent and Confucianism is quite reasonable: it encourages hard work and discipline. In Imperial China's administration there were some elements of meritocracy.
If I had to say now, why it happed that way I would point:
>Some sects in ancient Greece were fascinated by pure mathematics because of their faith in world of ideas and reason/body dualism . It was beginning of our scientific tradition. I know I oversimplified.
>Catholic priesthood as class of (lets say) intellectuals led to establishing universities.
>Weaker authority of rulers in middle ages stopped them from oppressing burglars by excessive taxation and red tape.
>Many competing centers of powers (sovereign rulers, other feudals, the Church, towns' local governments)
>simpler writing system.
>white people have more testosterone, so the are more dynamic (?)

I am not sure about Max Webber's theory, that because Confucian junzi knows its place in harmonic society, and Christian saint as tool of God wants to reform world, Christian society is more dynamic.
What do you think about that?
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Europe and by extension northern Africa and the Middle East had greater diversity amongst themselves leading to accelerated development through a melting pot of trade and warfare. China was a lot more stable than Europe making less of an incentive to innovate and develop technologies and even when they did innovate Europe was quick to adopt it and improve it.
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>>3105498
>China was a lot more stable than Europe making less of an incentive to innovate and develop technologies and even when they did innovate Europe was quick to adopt it and improve it.
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>>3105498
>China was a lot more stable than Europe
Was the difference really that great?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_wars_and_battles

Apparently this is a thing that gets debated on /his/ but tell me.

But as far as I understand the Franks were originally a germanic tribe that settled into a region that encompasses both modern France and Germany. They would later expand and create various dynasties and empires.

During this time did the germanic peoples take up roles as the leaders and local lords and slowly intermarried and integrate overtime? Or did they move in such numbers that they displaced local peoples? Or did they move in and their culture overtook the local ones?
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>>3105230
If you read the estimates for local and migrant population you will see that only the first of the options you give make any sense.

Don't be fooled, I'm sure it's possible to find an example where germanic migrators came to replace a greater number of the population. But in general they were not large enough groups to replace anyone.

It should also be noted that intermarry wasn't that common. At least the goths discouraged it.
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>>3105230
A combination of
>During this time did the germanic peoples take up roles as the leaders and local lords and slowly intermarried and integrate overtime?
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>Or did they move in and their culture overtook the local ones?

this shit
>Or did they move in such numbers that they displaced local peoples?
barely ever happens
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Fuck you better read this.

OK so yes originally the Franks were a Germanic tribal confederation that lived around the Rhine. Some of them, the Salian Franks, became foederatii of the Romans, meaning they fought for Rome and in exchange were allowed to settle within the Empire, on the left bank of the Rhine, in Roman Gaul. That was in the 3rd century AD.

Then as Western Rome collapsed, the Franks who at the time were led by Clovis conquered the rest of Gaul, starting with Northern Gaul in 486. Clovis established his capital in Paris, and most importantly converted to Catholic Christianity. This meant that the Franks could systematically intermarry with the local Gallo-Romans (although that was already happening since the 3rd century AD, since the Franks were already in Gaul). In the immediate aftermath of the conquest of Gaul, the land was split about 50/50 between Gallo-Romans and Franks, and Franks had some privileges over Gallo-Romans. But within about two generations the two had mixed to such an extent that they no longer existed as separate groups. By the late 6th century, Frank simply meant inhabitant of France, and there was nobility of both Frankish and Gallo-Roman patrilineal extraction, with Frankish lineages usually being dukes and Gallo-Roman lineages usually being counts. The nobility spoke the same language as the local population of wherever they were, which was usually some kind of late Latin or old French/Occitan, or Germanic Frankish in the Northeastern corner.

The Frankish conquest of Germany and Northern Italy only happened much later, in the late 8th century under Charlemagne. That's when the empire you posted formed (and collapsed again soon after), before that only a small part of modern Germany was part of France.

I really like the Hearts of Iron mod Kaiserreich.

Its not realistic in a lot of ways, often for gameplay reasons. Lets discuss a more realistic Version here.

http://kaiserreich.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

The wiki in case people don't know the Mod (I mean we are on /his/ but you never know...).

My main ideas:

>American Civil War (ACW)

Thats bullshit. America probably just is an isolationist not nearly as wealthy but still pretty wealthy republic. Also its most likely still isolationist.

>Commune of France

I could see that happening. Not in a muh we start a new war way (France actually was unable to stomach the losses of WW1 hence the performance in WW2). Instead its most likely a very defensive state focused on internal development.

>Great Britain

Probably not Syndicalist and instead an authoritarian regime trying to maintain the Empire despite the war debts etc.

>Germany

The military stagnation makes no sense given the Prussian military tradition.

Also the colonial overextension makes no sense. Mittelafrika and the eastern Euros as Sattelites yes, the rest (especially AoG no).

>Austria-Hungary
Probably strongly federalised. Austria definetly plays the second fiddle behind Hungary and because of that is plagued by pan-germanism.

>Ottoman Empire

Yeah no. That one would have collapsed in the 1920s or 30s. Question is which Colonial Empire would have filled the void? Or would the ayyrabs actually have gained self rule?

>young Japan

Probably authoritarian and imperialistic. Building a Colonial Empire mostly unbothered by the Euros.
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>>3105169
I don't really understand why Italy is split in two. It's certainly interesting and creative in its approach and the devs give good lore but I personally have different ideas. Japan is interesting in the mod having more puppets and being more aggressive.
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>>3105181
Italy makes no sense either. Especially because the conservative agrarian south is syndicalist (???)
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This is literally Belgium

Just call it Belgium

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Should our fellow Europeans restore this glorious empire?
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>>3105132
I'm not interested in having some italian tell me what to do. They can't even run their own country, let alone all of Europe.
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Yes goy, united you stand, divided you fall.
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>>3105132
Lol No, Wops are fuckin gay and the only people gayer are people that actually think Rome was cool.

This picture perfectly captures the appeal of Nazi Germany.
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>>3105053
And what's the appeal of Nazi Germany?
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A pack of autists who care more about muh epic imposing wunderwaffen than practicality and utility?
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>>3105061
>And what's the appeal of Nazi Germany?
Bad-ass leather jackets with sewn-in belts.

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Is this why everyone in europe lives off potatoes??
Were the natives better at farming than medieval europeans
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they feared the red farmer
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>>3104988
The red potato more like. A common site in Ireland.
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>>3104968
Corn, potato, sweet potato, cassava, beans and squash literally shifted the world's demographic trajectory in ways no one in the 15th century could ever imagine.

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ITT: lesser known historical figures who literally unironically did nothing wrong
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>>3104663
>not based Wranngle
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>>3104663
Did literally nothing wrong.
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>>3104663
>did nothing wrong
>trusted Kerensky

>>3104745
>did nothing wrong
>stayed in Crimea until it was already too late

>>3104757
>did nothing wrong
>still haunts the place where he was assassinated

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