It was a remarkable state. Strange mix - authoritarian, but also with a liberal multicultural cosmopolitan society exemplified by Vienna. Lots of varied cultures. Held its own against states that had single dominant nationalities. Very interesting place.
>>3122969
Such nice borders too.
>watch your empire go from the strongest empire on the continent to the weakest
>wife assassinated
>son commits suicide over peasant whore
>meme about federation your whole life
>only end up stking nationalist fervor
>hated nephew dies, but you still have to act tough
>literally cause the most monstrous war the world had ever seen
>die knowing your empire is nothing without Germany
if only he knew
>>3123421
Lack of martial discipline in the army, and inability to elevate German/Hungarian as the superior language to smooth relations in the empire.
>"being on the right side of history"
>>3122964
>implying we don't look at the racists of the 1960's with disgust
>implying we don't look at MLK as a Christ figure
>implying these aren't appropriate views
>implying many if the Civil rights issues we are still dealing with will see clear cut and simple in 20 years
>implying implications
>>3122978
>projecting the modern moral values of today on the past
>not seeking a non-partisan and objective view of history
>Implying Antfia/BLM/RadFems are doing anything but tilting at windmills
>>>/Leftypol/
>>3122978
>we
I bet you're one of those fags that goes around complaining about /pol/ in literally every thread even when it's completely unwarranted. It's incredibly obvious what you and your comrades try to do here, even to people that don't give a fuck about /pol/ you're ridiculously easy to spot.
Why do we assume good and evil exist?
We need to feel righteous
>>3122961
They definitly do exist, but just as man made concepts there is no good or evil beyond how man makes or perceives it.
Do you guys think /pol/ knows they are evil?
How reliable is the second punic war as the only written source we have was written by a roman who did not live those events ?
quite likely H*nnibal of Barca was a mythical figure concocted by the Romans to have a worthy enemy that they defeated
if he exist then he's black
>>3122955
I'll bite.
He was Phoenician. He was Northern African.
Born in Modern day Tunisia in Carthage.
Do you know what Tunisians look like? They look like Semites, Copt, maybe even Arabic.
The pic is a Carthaginians shekel.
>>3122988
BUT WE WUZ MEDITERRANEAN N SHIET
What kind of thoughts would a Greek or Roman have had about the lands north/northeast of the Black Sea?
>>3122920
They were the lands of the Cimmerians, Cimmerians were seen as barbarians by Romans but they had some civilized towns during the late bronze age and early iron age so Homer just saw them as a distant mysterious people
>>3122920
>"wow it's fucking nothing!"
Honestly, I don't understands what the fuck drove Russians east once they started expanding their realm.
that picture plus some bush or tree here and there is pretty much all you would see for thousands of miles until you ran across a tundra forest in the middle of Siberia with some slant eyed dudes who traded women for sable furs.
>>3123010
Are you retarded? Not all of European Russia is steppe. They didn't even expand into the steppe at first.
Is this the Cimmerian city Homer talked about?
>>3122895
I hope so. Can you give some source material? We don't all have time to read whatever sources you do.
>>3122895
"ukraine"
>>3122909
If you don't have time to read it why do you want it?
https://repozytorium.amu.edu.pl/bitstream/10593/13272/1/BPS-14-18_K_V_Gorbenko%20Y_S_Grebennikov%20THE%20%E2%80%98DYKYI%20SAD%E2%80%99%20FORTIFIED%20SETTLEMENT%20AS%20A%20UNITING%20LINK%20IN%20THE%20CONTEXT%20OF%20ECONOMIC%2c%20POLITICAL%20AND%20CULTURAL%20RELATION%20OF%201200-1000%20BC%20PP_375-390.pdf
So it existed, incredible...
And it's as old as the Etruscans!
>So it existed, incredible...
.. no shit dumbo. Why are you acting as if this was new?
>>3122825
This is now a thread of preislamic arab poetry
Weep for me, my eyes! Spill your tears
And mourn for me the vanished kings
Hujr ibn 'Amru's princely sons
Led away to slaughter at eventide;
If only they had died in combat
Not in the lands of Banu Marina!
No water was there to wash their fallen heads,
And their skulls lie spattered with blood
Pecked over by birds
Who tear out first the eyebrows, then the eyes.
>>3122825
there's nothing incredible about it
preislamic arabia can be described in four phrases:
>tribal infighting 24/7
>paganism (the bad type)
>no significant art aside from poetry
>no significant scientific discoveries/inventions
basically imagine very eloquent barbarians who love to sell shit and fighting is their national sports
So they were civilized before Anglos?
What gives?
>>3122773
Russians were never (and still aren't) civilized.
>>3122773
Arkaim, SIBERIAN CIVILIZATION
Russian is a synonym for Slav. It can not be used to describe pre-Slavic locals.
ITT: overranked officers
Rommel
>>3122712
Napoleon.
Now the dust has setteled, who were the bad guys ?
There were no good or bad guys in this conflict. The eternal nationalist struck France like it struck every other multiethnic empire. They fought harder to retain Algeria than anywhere else because it was considered officially a part of France. And much like the US in the Vietnam War, they won militarily but could not pull off a decisive victory against an underground opponent, leading to an eventual collapse of public support for the war.
When I watched that film, even though it's told from the Algerian perspective, I was surprised at how neutral it is. The French torture and guillotine rebels, but the Algerians see no problem in bombing civilian quarters. It's quite remarkable on the accuracy front.
France always goes too far. fuck those cunts, they're worse than the krauts and anglos
now they're getting KARMA'd by algerian diaspora rioters/criminals
The level of JUST 1940-1960 was for France is hilarious.
The 20th century was not kind to them.
How did he achieve what no other emperor or dictator could in history: total submission and unquestionable loyalty of the populace?
>>3122570
>How did he achieve what no other emperor or dictator could in history
Many other leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro and Papa Doc have done that.
> total submission and unquestionable loyalty of the populace?
Brainwashing of the populace, using real fears (American invasion and destruction of Korea) to his favor and consolidating power, brainwashing people, secret police, jailing and execution of dissidents, selected truth regarding the outside world and extreme border regulation.
>>3122580
Are people really that easy to manipulate?
He didn't achieve it. He inherited a system.
I was born so called "jewish" although I hate judaism and all other religions.
I am 100% atheist.
I believe there is no such thing as "god" and that we, like the great and late Charles Darwin proved, evolved from ape like ancestors through millions of years of evolution.
I came to this website thinking there will be quality historical debate in here.
I soon however realized that this site is full of nazis and is all about us the so called "jews".
There isn't a single thread in here in which we the so called "jews" are not defamed and in which the "Happy Merchant" caricature does not appear.
Well you know what nazis?.
You can keep posting your disgusting nazi threads, posts and caricatures for another 9999999999999999999999999999999999999 trillion years.
I don't care, as I am leaving this nazi infested website for all eternity.
I will NEVER see another one of your disgusting threads, posts or caricatures.
Nor do I care how any of you disgusting nazis is going to reply to this thread.
Once I press the gray "Post" button on the right I am going to immediately close the browser tab, delete all browsing history, close the browser and NEVER visit this website again.
Not even in 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 trillion years.
NEVER.
Goodbye for all eternity nazis.
>>3122530
>close the browser and NEVER visit this website again
jews really can't keep a fucking promise
Sorry but this isn't /pol/
Nor is this historical, why was this thread made
>>3122530
I've seen you post here 10,000 times being racist towards Japanese people and germans. Typical jahoodi
What went wrong?
>>3122315
In order to get to Japan, Islam would have to spread into China. And good look having a billion trillion chinks stop eating pork, which has been their staple four thousands of years.
>wrong
They feared the samurai warrior.
>"Fight when the enemy is weak"
Wow, great insight Mister Tzu! Truly made me think! I could have never figured it out!
>>3122308
The fundamentals are simple. But they can be easy to forget when under stress and in the heat of emotion. Therefore it benefits a general to have a reference that he can refer to.
>>3122308
Dude it was written in the bronze age. imagine being the one smart advisor in court trying to explain to some illiterate warlord that no you cant just attack the enemy head on.
>>3122308
This meme isn't funny no matter how variations you post of it.
What are Hist's thoughts on the German Question? In my opinion, I want Germany to reclaim Königsberg from Russia because the town was beautiful before The Soviets took it over
>>3122288
why should Germany be ceded a territory that has less than 0.5% Germans
>>3122288
But there aren't any Germans there anymore
>>3122296
Because it formerly belonged to them and the German architecture there was beautiful until the soviets came and ruined it