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Apologize to Maronites who identify as Phoenicians right now

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ancient-dna-offers-clues-canaanites-fate
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>>3151787
>modern people are the same as their ancient counterparts
OMG someone call the press. Next you'll tell me that the modern Italians are the descendants of the Romans.
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>>3152046
Tell that to all of the people who call Turks cockroaches and think that the Spanish aren't white because of the Moors. Shit, plenty of people honestly believe that all of the middle east and north Africa were replaced by or mixed with Arabs from KSA/Yemen just because they speak Arabic. Lots of people are clueless.
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>>3152269
Yeh my favourite is: Persians were actually white but modern day Iranians are completely different people.

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Cortes vs Moctezuma in bare hand combat no armor.
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>>3151764
>Montezuma touchés Cortez
>Dies of disease
>Cortez wins
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>>3151764

A FIT AND HEALTHY WARRIOR EMPEROR VERSUS A FLABBY INFIRM JEW...

I WONDER WHO WOULD WIN!
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>>3151764
This is honestly one of the stupidest fucking questions I have ever seen on this entire board, and thats saying a lot. First off, would the Spaniards just give up if Cortez got beaten? Why is this any more significant or interesting then a bar brawl between two average people? And more importantly theres no objective way to answer this question and even if there was a definative answer nothing would be lost or gained. You know what, Fuck it i'll answer! Fucking Cortez would win because Monteshit would collapse and die from fucking smallpox, theres your fucking answer, you god dammed retarded faggot. Fuck this board and fuck you OP.

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What can we say about Metaphysics within a purely logical point of view? I don't think the existence of the Universe implies it was created by a humanoid god, much less a benevolent one. My understanding is whatever Metaphysics is about, it does not maintain any direct contact with the Physical world (souls, supernatural phenomena, etc) and it is merely a human mechanism to assume Metaphysics operate within human values such as good vs bad.
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We start by acknowledging existence.

Then, we posit that there is division and change, on pain of this conversation otherwise being impossible.

Then, it follows that change itself is limited, for if change was limitless then there would be a scenario where it ends and nothing occurs again. Such a scenario is impossible, for nobody has posited that you can create or destroy existence. Existence is therefore eternal, and therefore any possible scenario has occurred, is occurring, and will occur again.

At that point we have established that reality is eternal and we all live forever. Rejoice, for we will converse online for eternity! This is the truth, share the good news.
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>>3151662
Define existence
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>>3151677

I am using the term "existence" to refer to everything that is. There are other terms which can be used, like "being". It is the most fundamental and expansive universal; it refers to all.

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The late Bronze Age was known for the exceptional interdependence of civilizations on one another for trade, most notably of tin and copper.

Is it possible the advent of advanced iron tools and the ubiquity of iron ore is the reason why those civilizations didn't bounce back? That there was no longer a pressing need for a wide spread trade network?
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>>3151556
Iron was actually a shit material until the Roman empire and the development of steel at least, bronze was superior. It was just incredibly scarce and so when the tin trade routes collapsed, everyone switched to iron.
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>>3151563
So did better iron working exacerbate the collapse or did the collapse drive better iron working?
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>>3151556
Not really, tin was available anywhere

>>3151610
The latter one

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Why are people so depraved?
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Depravity is relative, frogposter.
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>>3151550
To be depraved is natural
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>>3151550
The infinite hunger. Once you open that door of debauchery it escalates. The Marquis de Sade wrote a book on it about a group of nobles who locked themselves in a castle and were getting peasants piped in. It started out """normally""" enough with sex and bondage shit on the menu, it escalates into cruelty and sadism in sexual acts. Then the murders start. It ends with them cannibalising each other in twisted orgys.

Once that door is open and the desire is indulged the behaviour can escalate. Why do you think serial killers keep killing? Its a rush like anything else. The same as a heroin addict loads up his next shot you will key up your next trap dojin

Temperance and purity are the only rational answers in response to our lower nature

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What are some accurate ones?
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>>3151498
Muhtesem Yuzyıl
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>>3151498

>Hannibal
>Carthaginians
>barbarians
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WE WUZ CHRISTIANS N SHIET

ITT: audacious shit you can't believe people got away with

>be Albrecht from House Hohenzollern
>third son of the Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach
>raised for church career
>join Teutonic Order
>become 37th Grand Master
>so far so good
>suddenly convert to Lutheranism
>literally privatize the Monastic State of the Teutonic Order
>make it your family's personalDuchy of Prussia
>get away with it

It absolutely blows my mind that this happened.
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was gonna say julius caesar, but he didn't really get away with it
so, Sulla
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>>3152194
1453 never forget

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Welcome to /his/craft a historical roleplaying Minecraft server

DISCORD: https://discord.gg/TWtGb5r

The general idea of this mineman server is to historically reenact a time period within a block game, have fun and learn about history while roleplaying.

We welcome players of all boards to join in the autism, and normies as well if they can be high quality players

The setting will be the 16th(1500 A.D) century with with many intriguing geopolitics, from the Ottomans, to the colonial empires to the French to the Habsburg and the primary conflict of the Thirty Years War which all players of Eurasia and the European colonies will be able to participate in

Roleplaying is enforced, do not meme too much

Roleplay friendly memes are allowed
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>>3151301
Why dont you come down and join us
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>>3151301
Where are these renders from????
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>>3152154
Eurocrop minecraft map these guys have

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How exactly did people in the early 20th century conceive of homosexuality?

I ask because of how strangely some of the nomenclature about it from the time reads; for instance, a 1945 New York Times review of the film The Lost Weekend refers to the protagonist's homosexuality as "an unconscious indecision in his own masculine libido".
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>>3151280

I suspect it was closer to how we conceive of it today when we would probably suspect. The medical / psychological establishment considered it an abberration and a mental illness along the lines of what your quote describes. Religious conservativism was more common and widespread and they obviously frowned on it. The law frowned on them as well. But a lot of your common, run of the mill people were probably mostly indifferent. People had gay friends and relatives and they knew, and didn't really care. Rejection by families was probably more common compared to rejection by friends and obviously it was more common then today.

I think in hollywood it was accepted, in the upper classes it was accepted, at least in europe, and in european cities like paris it was in the open and accepted at least in bohemian areas. In weimar era berlin it was common plaec and accepted
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>>3152438
>I suspect it was closer to how we conceive of it today when we would probably suspect.

*then we would probably expect
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>>3151280
Many like Cole Porter and Leonard Bernstein were gay but took beards as wives. That was the average outlook. That it was a mental illness that could be cured by taking a wife or not caring about it. Gays weren't really out in the open back then.
>>3152438
Europe nor Weimar Germany were as accepting to gays as you seem to believe. America wasn't either though.

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/his/ I want to know your favorite type of Knight/ Cav from history and I want to know why? Mine are the Winged Hussars.
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>>3151146
Iberian Military Orders for me.
Santiago y cierra España.
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>>3151146
Whichever one my family was.

>the feels when trying to source this blazon.
Anyone successfully done so and can offer advice? Willing to pay for some sort of service.
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>>3151146
>Mine are the Winged Hussars.
why?

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democracy and republicanism, especially global capitalism, will ultimately lead to Marxism
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How can one ideology sell the same lie for more than 150 years without evolving too much? At least Bernstein understood its failures to predict anything.
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>>3150969
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Fuck Marx. What the world needs is based leaders like Franco.

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/pol/ needs to go back.

I'm not talking about the extreme ideologies they have. What irritates me is when trying to have a discussion with them they will use the stupidest arguments possible. And if they can't find ways to talk back they will attempt to insult you personally in all caps with barely intelligible sentences.

Seriously if you can't even manage to converse normally without using words like nigger, (((jews))) etc either shut up or go back to >>>/pol/
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>starts an entire thread to reply to stale bait

dumb frogposter
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>>3150911
You shouldn't be such a nu-male he bitch KEK. Now go back to slerping your bull's semen out of your wife's (male) anus.
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>>3150911
>m not talking about the extreme ideologies they have. What irritates me is when trying to have a discussion with them they will use the stupidest arguments possible.
does it hurt that you have to be consistent in your argument? It would be much easier if we would just allow you swap standards as you find it convienient

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What did Jesus truly sacrifice? His humanity? Why is it a big deal that a God who can revive himself and is all powerful "died"?

Also while I'm at it, didn't Judas sacrifice more as human than Jesus did? God created this man just to betray Jesus and then God punished Judas not only by taking his life but also his eternal soul? If anything shouldn't Judas be pitied by the Christian churches?

Pic related: It's where I got the idea that Judas was actually the person who died for our sins since Judas actually did die, didn't come back and is probably burning in Hell.
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>>3150883
Do you think judas ever went to heaven? Maybe he found redemption
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>>3150883

You're essentially correct; if we could come up with a coherent account of Jesus as a god, then he didn't sacrifice anything.

Therefore, you should reject Christianity and review other religions. Hint: 4th C. Hellenes represent a theological high-point in human history, bar none.
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>>3150883
>DUDE CRUCIFICTION ON A CROSS LMAO
just some we wuz human sacrifice tier shit

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How did Liberia and Ethiopia manage to remain "independent"
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>>3150862
Liberia, murican protection
Ethiopia, by only fighting italians
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Liberia is basically what happens when Americans move to Africa and set up a little America with them as the empowered citizens and the natives as 2nd class schmucks. It was basically a colony of the states.
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Dunno about Liberia but Ethiopian clay is like Afghan clay, worthless and easy to defend. Puppeting was cheaper.

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Which country/person truly started The Great War?
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>>3150757
Bob. FUCK Bob.
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>>3150757

Belgium.
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>>3150757

Ares, god of war.

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