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How come real communism has never been tried?
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Something white people something capitalists something something /pol/ something muh marx
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>>3181950
Marxism was tried. It was opposed by other global powers and never reached communism.
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Communism has never been achieved.
Various types of socialism have been tried in order to achieve communism.
They have all failed.

What would happen if the US balkanized?
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>>3181892
>vegas coalition
Nigger we're a desert. what the fuck would we eat? Snakes?
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>>3181910
cocaine
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Nobody FUCKING cares. Go play video games about it you fat faggot. This isn't history

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What are your favorite historical quotes?
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>>3181649
"I made da poopies in my pants!"
-Gaydolf Shitler
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>>3181649
"Stop thinking and eating food"-Joseph Stalin
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"Kill the reactionary birds, comrades"
-Mao

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ITT: Historical red flags
I'll start with some obvious ones.

>goes on /his/ or /pol/
>plays strategy games
>studies the facts of history but not the method of viewing history
>decries academic institutions as biased
>says that women had little relevance or influence in history
>applies anachronistic concepts to the past (national identity, capitalist ideas of economy, etc)
>applies a eurocentric scope when viewing non-european cultures (such as going on about how a society didn't make the wheel)
>thinks history follows a set linear course (such as Marx's conception of history)
>main interest is military history
>main interest is nazi germany
>main interest is WWII
>main interest is the crusades
>is a historical determinist
>is a nationalist
>is a marxist
>buys into the great man theory
>buys into absolute collectivist theories
>isn't formally educated in history
>says history is a 'cycle'
>posts the 'hard men good times soft men hard times' meme
>cares about the 'importance' of understanding history rather than appreciating it for what it is
>judges a society based on it's inventions
>is American
>is Greek
>is Russian (or eastern European in general)
>is English
>is Turkish

KEEP IN MIND, that having a couple of these doesn't make one a bad historian, they are merely things to look out for among yourself and others.
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>>3181548
>basically everyone on this board
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>>3181548
your insecurities are showing
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>>3181548

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W-why did they kill him? He abdicated, isn't that what they wanted? Why kill a powerless man and his family?
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>>3181276
>Commies
>Making sense ever

Given the opportunity to kill rich people, a communist will do it with glee and not any other reason then their hate boner for all things bourgeois.
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>>3181276
Tfw I really feel bad for him and his family.
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>>3181276
Because he had more money than them.

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>1066
How can I get over the absolute tragedy of this? I can't even sleep some nights. I just toss and turn, thinking of what could have if not for William the Bastard.
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>>3181098
Imagine
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>>3181127
Merci Willie

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He wouldn't have won WW2, but he would still extend it for 5 more years
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>>3180787

How exactly?
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>>3180787
He could give the Axis an easy win in North Africa wich could be better for Italy wich could be better for the Russian Front, but he claimed lots of thing for join them at first and when they start losing he stayed neutral
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>>3180812
>he claimed lot of things to join them
His military was severely wounded why wouldn't he?

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I don't really understand the idea "racism is prejudice and power". If it means that all whites have power because of their race, it basically validates the idea there is a homogeneous white group, that identify itself as such, no matter the social status. Isn't that basic fascism? What's the point in reactiving fascist ideas?
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>heh, if i deliberately misinterpret this argument, it actually makes my opponent look bad
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I'm not a sociologist, so this isn't my area of expertise. But the concept of racism = prejudice + power is essentially a stipulative definition of the term 'racism', pretty similar to the concept of institutional racism I guess. Of course, outside academic contexts, it's used by a lot of blogger retards who don't understand most of the literature they quote - and this is usually used to make the claim that a non-white person "can't be racist".

As to the claim that it validates fascism, I don't think that's what the concept is supposed to mean. Just as a caveat, I don't necessarily agree with the general concept or the way the whole 'Racism = Prejudice + Power' is used. It seems to be used to align the definition of racism with the concept of privilege. That is, even if you're a poor white person, you're inherently worse off than a black person of the same socio-economic status because you're white. That seems like it might have some basis in reality, although I can't imagine how you'd ever quantitatively prove it.

For instance, you could say it's wrong to group all 1940s Aryan Germans into a homogenous group of 'Nazis'. This is true. But pointing out that all Aryan Germans enjoyed significant social advantages over other ethnic groups is also true, and there may be some merit to differentiating their prejudice to, say, a Jew who hated all Germans at the time.
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>>3180774

Have you ever kissed a girl?

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People who justify the atomic bombings of Japan often argue that a land invasion of the Japanese home islands would have caused far more deaths than the atomic bombings. I'm not necessarily interested in debating the veracity of that particular claim, but had the Manhattan project not produced bombs, what would a D-day style invasion of Japan have looked like? Would civilian resistance have materialized? Was Japan in a state to put up as much resistance as the Germans had in France? How long might they have been able to hold out?

Also, would the Emperor have still surrendered once it became clear the game was up for Japan in a land invasion?
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>>3180283
It would have been militarily awesome thats for sure.

The jap tanks were so fucking shit though, their Chi-Nu, saved for the invasions, were so 1941 tier.
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>>3180289
Does Japan's terrain lend itself to tank warfare anyway? It seems like they'd have played less of a role than they did in Europe.
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>>3180283
Should the emperor have decided to surrender (I'm guessing he would've in the case of a land invasion of japan) there would've been a military coup, with the emperor being made a puppet. Japanese patriotism + the fact that allied propaganda had weaker influence in the pacific theatre would've meant that the majority of the civilian population would've been armed and fighting.

I'd say it would've added another 6 months to the war assuming the soviets launched a joint invasion. It would've been extremely bloody on both sides. Much more humanitarian to nuke them rather than force soldiers to shoot hundreds of desperate women and children with guns.

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Why do people resort to violent uprising as a means of resolving grievances instead of cooperation?
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What a dumb question. Just look at venezula right now for an example of a state not only acting against, but actively repressing popular will.
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Because the other side won't cooperate?
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Is Chad Romanian?

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Would China have been able to industrialize under liberal capitalism, or are command economies the way for large, underdeveloped nations?
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China is functionally far from a command economy, it is the majority shareholder or owner of various institutions and banks which then compete in a free market for profit.
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>>3180040

>>3180100 and the fact that Taiwan industrialized under a liberal government. Chiang was actually keeping his nation down and things got better faster under his not retarded successors.
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>>3180100
It WAS a command economy, though, and to some extent still is through five-year-plans and state intervention in markets and directives of state-controlled companies (usually the largest companies or heavyweights in their fields, i.e., Steel, Industrial Banking).

>>3180040
I believe so. Mao's insane attempts at modernisation were an equal leap (hah) forward and backward at the same time; and it came at the cost of millions of human lives. It was another way around the puzzle of rapidly 'catching up' to the West (which they then failed to do for years and are back to doing so on a world market scale as their boom drops off).

Fundamentally, the great movers and shakers of reform in the country were people with capitalist tendancies. Deng Xiaoping was one of them. Think about how sooner China might have come to be without both inane and unbelievably stupid bullshit like the Cultural Revolution (which also came at the cost of their cultural history, too). It would've been an Asian Tiger proper.

I was curious about why the south succeeded from the US for the civil war. I keep getting told it was because of slavery, but I have a hard time believing that was it. Google says as much, but I know Google is controlled by people with a particular narrative in mind, please provide links.
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>>3179877
It was becuase of slavery
Start here 1820 compermise:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Compromise
Leads to calffiora and the Terrororys from the war being added to the union and the 1850 compromise:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1850
Then start reading about the Kansas free staters and other links on those links,
Leading to the republicans being elected, with the Marjory party players incudling Lincoln and his major staff being against slavery extending into the western territories and for the eventual end of slavery in the south.
Inb4 someone cherry picks quotes from Lincoln saying the war wasn't about that (for political reasons)
>mah state rights
Yeah, it was about state rights if that right was the right to own slaves.
Also most of the major southern generals wrote in letters that the main rift was about slavery.
Becareful, there is ALOT of southern FUD about this, if they aren't refernceing orgidial soruces, they are useless.
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>>3179907
Especially see the last 5 paragraphs of the first link and then read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas–Nebraska_Act
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>>3179907
Lincoln wanted to violate state rights to end slavery so it was about state rights.

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Nazi Germany
>destroyed civilian areas
>put some captured civilians in camps to be killed
>treated their enemies like subhumans
>ran large scale propaganda operations to convince their civilians that their enemies were subhumans
>told their civilians to fight and die rather than surrender, leading to millions of unnecessary deaths

Imperial Japan
>massacred civilian areas
>put some captured civilians in camps to be tortured and tested on
>treated the Chinese like subhumans, considered you lower than insects if you surrendered
>used propaganda to convince their own civilians that their enemies were monsters
>convinced their civilians to fight and die rather than surrender, leading to millions of unnecessary deaths

Tell me again why it's okay to romanticize the Japs in WW2?

Tell me again why the atomic bombings were such barbaric acts?

Tell me again why putting Japanese immigrants in camps to defend against spies was such a cruel injustice?

Tell me again why making propaganda posters of funny-looking Japs was such a wrong thing to do?
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>>3179812
That movie doesn't romanticize Japs. It just shows that soldiers from both sides have the same feelings and thoughts. Also noone really cares about the rest of that stuff besides dumbass SJWs.
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>>3179812
Japs made anime popular and their culture is big between western youth and adults
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>>3179812
germany killed jews/europeans

prove me wrong

So how do people who disagree with this book explain the historical supremacy of European people?
Did Europeans evolve a higher IQ by pure luck?
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All those accomplishments and hard work by millions of people over hundreds of years was just white privilege.
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>>3179587
so white people just work harder than other people?
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suck it, Jared

Since when did we become more significant?
>>>/k/34728635
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Look at the replies
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>>3179540

*teleports into your attic*

"Oy Vey! Hello anon. I am here to liberate you from your sexual frustration and general dissatisfaction with life. I will be your eternal soulmate and most intimate companion. I will cheer your in success, comfort you in failure, and bear you many beautiful and gifted children. All I require of you is to forever renounce the evil and morally corrupt ideology of National Socialism and pledge your sword, life and heart to me. Pregnant Anne Frank, Queen of /his/."
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>>3179558

*sighs*

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