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>>339625
Shameless bump.

The actual Dark Ages did happen, between the fall of Rome and Charlemagne. Western civilisation started in the 10th century and wasn't a continuation of anything but something new.

The idea that is full of shit is that the entire Middle Ages are "Dark Ages", which is what most people believe and what Petrarch originally referred to when he made up that expression.

>>339867
Basically this. Between the fall of the Roman empire and the 10th or 11th centuary we did go backwards. Nobody could read anything, even kings and Aristocrats were illiterate, for instance Charlemagne.

It ended with Charlemagne conquering some lands and uniting them. This allowed the states to actually exchange information and to get a working economy. Petrarch introduced humanism. Muslims from the "golden age" also had a hand with reviving education.

>>339582
They are heretics though. They have their own fake veriosn of the bible, but even then they are easily argued into a corner. I see pic related on every busy street corner in my city and I sometimes go and have the doctrine talk (tm) with them. Most JW are poorly prepared for even an entry-level discussion and some fondle after a single good argument. I have to admit they are usually nice, but also very dishonest intellectually.

>>340717
The only Christians I've ever met that were well read on the Bible were JWs.
>heretics
Coming from someone that literally worships a human being that's rich.

>>340748
>Coming from someone that literally worships a human being that's rich.
That's the definition of being Christian.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Soviet_Union

>>339557
>conservapedia

>>339557
>conservapedia
Now this certainly won't be biased, right?

>>339499
>lived in the 800s
>created modern europe
wut

>>339509
I mean modern concept of Europe (christian western/central). Before Charlemagne christianization there was no European unity. He united Germanic people, spread feodalism and christianity. He created the bases for european civilization (arguably with Clovis when he chose catholic faith).

>>339531
>he united Germanic people
Would you say he united them under one flag?

>>339464
Plenty of dictators were democratically elected.
Does that count?

Ok. You want to know if the rules PDS made for HOI4 is true to history or not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

Yeah, the second Iraq war

>>339381
They're basically french fash.

The Church wishes them to reenter communion. From their perspective the Church is heretical.

They are outside of communion but from December are being given a year to conduct confessions.

Because they're french Fash.

>>339533

>Fash

Fit and sexy hot?

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>>339381
Basically:

>you have to do what the church says or you are a heretic!
>if the church says something I don't like then it's heresy!

>>339338
Casimir IV of Poland may be a case of an actual "curse". Many people died after opening his sarcophagus. It turned out to be a form of extremely lethal fungus.

Pic related.

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>>339365
Forgot the pic.

>>339338
Not so much cursed, as feared booby trapped and mercury poisoned, Qin Shi Huang's tomb has never been opened.

>Is /his/ the right place to talk about weapons in?
>Is /pol/ the right place to talk about origami in?
>>>/k/

>>339221
Fuck off I like /k/ (despite the last couple years of constant shitposts making it hard) but historical arms and armor threads there never go well, /his/ actually somewhat knows what they're talking about.

>>339212
They stopped using the rapier really around the mid 1700's due to changing fashion and sabres proving more useful with changing martial scenarios.

>>339221
No its fine to talk about swords here, their manufactoring was a factor in geopolitics. Try to be less of a kek

Bob.

Everyone fucking hates Bob.

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>>339128
Probably Stalin, his rise to power was already inevitable before Hitler's was, and he was pretty brutal.

Maybe some other commie that came up after Stalin died or something though, who knows?

I don't even understand why Hitler got so villainized when Stalin and Mao were demonstratably worse. Is it just because he lost the war?

>>339115
You could argue that Occitain was fairly romantic, Frankish was germanic. The Anglo-Saxons were germanic. Only Italian was really a latin language. (Spanish being copycats and French being keked Franks)

>>339115
english is not germanic, first latin influence and then french influence made the language ~90% romance

>>339115
The best explanation is that the Romans just straight up left Britain and allowed it to fend for itself.

The movements of germanic and other peoples into the rest of the Roman Empire was a pretty gradual process, the barbarians that were settled inside the borders were slowly absorbed into Roman society and then took over, whereas as much as we know about post Roman Britain (which is almost fucking nothing), the invading barbarians just wholesale replaced the existing ruling class, which may or may not have LEFT beforehand anyway.

>outdated
Actually it's fairly recent still. 19th century.

>>339121
That's still pretty old. Women still couldn't vote back then.

>>339112
It could be argued that the very concept of a nation state emerged with the beginning of modern globalization, as an ideology to better express your own economic interest versus newfound economic rivals.

>>338998
Yes, he was a scapegoat.

This is a known fact.

"lf the attribute of popular government in peace is virtue, the attribute of popular government in revolution is at one and the same time virtue and terror, virtue without which terror is fatal, terror without which virtue is impotent. The terror is nothing but justice, prompt, severe, inflexible; it is thus an emanation of virtue."

Speech to the National Convention, (5 February 1794),

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JUST

>>338835
States have no reason to exist desu

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>>338841
this!!

>>338835
that's also what I thought studying him in high school.

>>340753
Pathetic.

What are you even trying to say?

>>338756
Because humans are incapable of looking at such an issue without causing widespread conflict or civil unrest. People would take it very personally and reject it outright. That and such strain of study (which pre-dates WW2) has been poisoned utterly by Nazism. Thus it is silenced

>>338740
I basically agree with you but you but you have to understand that it was less of an attempt to "define" what it means to be either and more as a last resort to keep a nation on the verge of collapse together by removing the supposed element which was tainting it. In both situations neither was the actual problem so the society collapsed anyway thanks to fairly stupid and impotent leadership, but my main point is that since the leadership was bewildered, and in Hitlers case grew out of a Germany which had already collapsed once thus making the Nazis false messiahs, they picked a bogeyman and disposed of it.

Thus Nationalism itself doesn't necessarily remain indefensible because of the two genocides you reference because they were done less out of attempts to define the Nations people and more as a way to save them and it is the fact that violence against the minority peoples of a Nation becomes totally justified that Nationalism is, for me, indefensible

Hope this helped OP sorry for being so long windedness. Also be ready for the buttmad /pol/ lurkers to show up in full force at the sight of you merely questioning nationalism's merit.

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Nationalism manifests in different ways. Some are good, some are bad.

Hitler wasn't the figurehead of nationalism, he didn't get to decide what nationalism is about.

In truth, most heavily nationalistic people have been escaping oppression instead of oppressing

>>338740
Fuck off back to tumblr