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What's your opinion of the man, /his?
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>>388359
Based
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>>387376
Used to think he was good. Paid for a few podcasts.
But then he started spamming threads on here and now I just pirate his shit when I'm bored.
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I liked blueprint for armageddon. Ww1 is so sad and 2spooky and he definitely talked about it that way. I can't wait to read the books he mentioned. He can be a bit hammy, but I appreciate his enthusiasm.
Just listening to it while closing down the kitchen at work was really fun. And made me not feel bad about anything because at least I wasn't getting BTFO by artillery in verdun.
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ITT: We post events that led to the downfall of Nations/Civilizations.
Honourable mentions :
Battle of Mohacs
Battle of White Mountain
Battle of Adrianople
Battle of Manzikert
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>The Battle of White Mountain consigned the Bohemians to a fate of subservience to the Hapsburg crown for centuries.
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>King Louis II' death would place the allow Ferdinand Hapsburg to press his claim on both Bohemia and Hungary.
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Battle of Vienna 1683
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If a faulty premise always leads to faulty conclusions, how far do you think we have to go back to fix humanity? Should meditation be the baseline for a new kind of science?
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>>387143
>meditation be the baseline for a new kind of science
Wut.jpg
>faulty premise necessarily leads to faulty conclusions
Not necessarily. You can arrive at the correct conclusion from a faulty premise. You learn that in the logic class.
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>>387143
>Not necessarily. You can arrive at the correct conclusion from a faulty premise. You learn that in the logic class.
Prove it.
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>>387184
Sure.
>all tigers are fish (false premise)
>no fish have scales (false premise)
Therefore
>no tigers have scales (correct conclusion)
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There's no reason why there can't be a god, Heck the subconscious is a force which controls our life's for us, how is that not a god?
The reason why "god is dead" is because christians put people before god, theres nothing wrong with that, but it is the reason why we have atheism. Look at christian art, it's all saints and jesus but no god.
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>Heck the subconscious is a force which controls our life's for us, how is that not a god?
The subconscious was actually a problem for the religion. If what you said true, that it controls us, than how do you maintain the concept of sin. If my subconscious controls me to sin than wheres the free ill in there? This is especially troubling considering that our subconscious is literally always at work. Why would God even make such a thing?
>The reason why "god is dead" is because christians put people before god
The quote has nothing to do with humanism. The quote is how have simply advanced to the point where belief is no longer possible.
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>>387931
Subconscious is the BIOS of our bodies, and to some extent our OS. Most of our OS is learned (routines), but since clearly our life isn't a complex sum of reflexes, I'd say that we have a choice. Or I do.
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>>386986
Really? You can't think up a single reason as of why there can't be a God?
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Is it just a remarkable coincidence that the Corinthian helmet is shaped like a circumcised knob-end, or is there symbolism involved? Did the ancient Greeks practice circumcision?
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>>386861
Uncircumcised doesn't look that much different, penis imagery probably intentional
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>>386861
Uncircumcised erect dick doesn't look much different from an circumcised erect dick.
t. erect dick expert
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>>387316
Pretty sure they would. Circumcision is the removal of the penis head, it's gonna look different. Stop shilling Mr. Shlomo.
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Are these books accurate?
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>>386814
I imagine it varies, it is a large imprint with many authors, and while it is relatively easy to check an author's credentials, their sources, and academic background the odd nationalistic circlejerker or -aboo might slip through.
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>>386814
Corinthian helmet was already out of fashion by that period.
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What do you guys think about the Indo-European hypothesis?
I've always found it kind of cool how early Greek and German pagan religions show striking similarity to the Vedic religions in India, with many gods having the same function and names that are in many cases cognates of one another.
But I've also heard some people say that a lot of the work that has been done on the hypothesis is riddled with confirmation bias, many philologists making connections that aren't there just to confirm their beliefs.
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I think it's pretty good, but some of it's proponents haven't done a good job of keeping it clean of flowery language (See Dumezil)
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I just took a class on Vedic society and religion at my uni so we discussed the religious IE aspect heavily
Some of it seems a bit conflicting to me - on one end, you would think that many early cultures would develop similar religions because of just tendency for them to have the same religious needs (harvest, fertility, etc.). But it's hard to get past the name cognates and the like.
One cool thing that was in one of our readings was wondering how the Aryans who went to India, a largely nomadic people, conceived of a God who resided in a large stone temple (similar to Zeus in Greek paganism) if they had no cities. The argument in the book was that the Aryans had somehow heard accounts of the Babylonian kings and their buildings. Obviously nothing there can be proved, but really cool.
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>>386794
>But I've also heard some people say that a lot of the work that has been done on the hypothesis is riddled with confirmation bias, many philologists making connections that aren't there just to confirm their beliefs.
It's the most well-established and most well-researched language family in the world. People who deny it are most certainly cranks.
>95% of native american deaths were actually from disease
How is dying from disease thanks to a weak immune system considered as genocide by history?
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>>386516
Most people pretend like it never happened though.
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>>386516
Because people unironically believe that Europeans deliberately and knowingly spread those diseases as an early type of biological warfare. Despite the fact that there is literally no concrete evidence for the deliberate spreading of disease via "smallpox blankets," everyone believes it anyway.
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>>386516
Because
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre#List_of_massacres
So, which tribe do your people go back to?
>country
>tribe
>USA
>Saxon/Pre-Roman Briton
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>muh heritage
Kill yourself
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>>386402
Sicilia familia
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Use of history in nation-building
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How has your country used history to promote a national identity?
In Canadian schools, we're taught that the Battle of Vimy Ridge was where the nation was born. The narrative of the battle emphasises that an all-Canadian force succeeded where others had failed; that novel tactics were employed; and that the battle was a turning point in the war.
A lot of these ideas come from the CBC's (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) 50th anniversary project on the battle in 1967. This project was somewhat sketchy. It was based off of oral histories, gathered through interviews with veterans of the battle. If you look at transcripts from the interviews, you'll notice that the interviewer asks a lot of leading questions; it's clear that he had expectations in mind for the outcome. The questions tend to focus on preparation for the battle, cultivating the idea that superior Canadian tactics were the decisive factor. By contrast, the veterans seem more inclined to talk about things like the leave they got in Scotland after they were injured. The results were further biased by the selection of interview segments for the final cut.
The idea the Vimy Ridge was our nation's seminal moment is pretty problematic. The First World War was a particularly divisive episode for Canada. Conscription was widely opposed in Quebec - the separatist movement can be traced to this sentiment. Also Newfoundland was not yet a part of Canada, and had already had its baptism of fire at Beaumont-Hamel in July 1916.
Also, as for the battle being a turning point - I'm interested to know how many of you that aren't from Canada have heard of it. Most people I know that studied history outside of Canada haven't.
Post similar rhetoric from other countries (or more from Canada)
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>muh gallipoli mateship
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>>386347
Well at the time larrikinism was verboten, the Rape of Cairo had happened, along with the Sydney Beer Mutiny.
Bean is pretty much responsible for the post-war myth, and the two strikes and two referrenda were more important at home.
I dunno, eh? Scates has a good book on the anzac myth.
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We learn our forefathers did really cool shit but couldn't go too far because our neighburs were assholes while actual important thousand-year old relics are rotting in piles of rubbish or are literally getting bulldozed.
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Max Stirner was a wittol 2015-12-10 07:18:13 Post No.386251
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>That she did what she wished, and that Stirner let her do what she wished-that of course may have let her appear in the eyes of the marriage-slaves as detestable as it later did to her, but it can only make the two of them more likable to us. Every act of making up the mind for the other, for that matter, would not have fit at all into the nature of those involved, for whom "marriage" meant only a loose band that was thrown around them purely externally. And not on the "unfaithfulness" of the wife-how ridiculous!-did "this marriage perish," but simply and only under the pressure of the circumstances in which he and she unfortunately all too soon found themselves.
From "Max Stirner - His Life and His Works" By Mackay
Gentlemen, I think this proves that we should remove the stigma attached to keks and begin to embrace kekoldry.
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So what you're saying man who openly says that morality is an absurd fiction that you should desire to be rid of didn't give a shit about an old moral standard? Holy shit, stop the fucking presses.
>Gentlemen, I think this proves that we should remove the stigma attached to keks and begin to embrace kekoldry.
It proves nothing of the sort. Embrace what you will as you see fit and live your life how you see fit.
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>>386277
Behold, a post made by the haunted.
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>>386293
Haunted? You're the one trying to make a wheel in the head out of Stirner's lack of concern for the fact his wife liked to screw around. There are egoistic reasons to not want your partner screwing around, there are egoistic reasons to be apathetic to your partner screwing around, and there are egoistic reasons to encourage it. How you choose to approach it from an egoistic standpoint is entirely up to you, but this particular tidbit about the man's personal life does not mean one of these approaches is in any way inherently preferable.
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One of those legendary figures where myth and history meet. Did he really exist? Who was he?
By the late middle ages King Arthur had been embedded into England as a national folk hero and legend, despite its Welsh origins. Geoffrey of Monmouth codified the Arthurian myth into what it has become today. This is where we get elements like the Sword in the Stone, and Merlin
Of course the legend is set in actual history. Post-Roman Britain to be exact. Not much is known from this time as there are no extant historical records aside from scarce outside mentions and one monk named Gildas. When the Roman legions left Britain the native and Romanized population was left to contend with invaders both from Ireland, and the various germanic tribes invading from across the North Sea, namely the Saxons and Angles. Political unity fractured, and Britain was one of the first areas of the former Western Roman Empire to fall into the "Dark Ages" It's this time period that interests me most.
There are many competing hypothesis about the origins of the Arthurian legend. Arthur is a figure of myth brought to Britain by Sarmatian soldiers under Lucius Artorius Castus, Arthur was the King of the Britons known to Jordanes as Riothamus, or a Romano-British leader named Ambrosius Aurelianus mentioned by Gildas.
One of my favorites alternate theories is that the figure known as Arthur was none other than Cerdic of Wessex, founder of the line that would eventually rule Anglo-Saxon England.
Personally I think he was none of these. The warlord who would form the core of the Arthur legend lived around the turn of the sixth century and was the leader at the decisive Battle of Mons Badonicus against the invading Saxons. How do we know this? The battle itself is mentioned by Gildas and was within his living memory, yet no leader was named. However the earliest traditions of Arthur (prior to the medieval legend) name him as the leader. This fact alone should place us on firm historical ground.
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I very much doubt he existed, there is no historical evidence to support it.
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>>386153
he was a cute blonde girl.
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Yeah
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Who wins in a fight Areas or Athena?
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Athena is canon: http://historylink101.com/2/greece2/ares_vs_athena.htm (poor quality source)
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>>386014
During the Trojan war, Ares took the side of the Trojans, while Athena took the side of the Greeks.
Ares faced off with Diomedes, the king from Anatolia. Athena borrowed the helm of invisibility from Hades and caused Ares’ spear to go off course. This opened up Ares to a counterattack from Diomedes which deeply wounded Ares. Ares had to leave the battlefield and return to mount Olympus where his wounds were tended by Zeus.
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>>386014
If it came to violence then Ares, but Athena would resolve the dispute another way.
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Alright, I've created a list of every Philosophical work I could think off that people should read, anything you think I've missed?
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>>385767
Mein Kampf
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>>385767
Everything outside the western tradition.
Which is fine, because you've got to keep some coherency and order, but it's not "every philosophical work that people should read.''
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>>385767
Eurocentricism: the post
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How did the ancient Greeks train? 2015-12-10 05:05:07 Post No.385717
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How did the ancient Greeks train?
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It is well known that the ancient Greeks were very fit, but there is a lot of controversy over how they trained.
How did they train? Obviously this didn't have barbells and such. How did they get such a massive core (pic related)?
While some may believe that /fit/ would be a better board to post this, I feel like /his/ would have more information to weigh in on the subject.
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Another example of their core.
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>>385717
Statues typically depict idealized forms. So what you are posting is probably exceptional individual since that is supposed to be Herakles.
Military Training at youth and daily exercise was a part of the life style back then since each city relied on its population of men for war. So the majority of young and middle age men would have been fairly fit.
Yet there was also the idealized youthful and slender form as well. Pic related.