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>>398214
Mirin' those facial aesthetics brah

>>398221
He always looks so disapproving in statues. Like he silently judging you.

Didn't Marcus Aurelius fuck the empire over by taking the senate out of Rome and making it travel with him which in turn somehow allowed people later on to claim to be emperor and start civil wars much more easily?

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>Hi
>audiobooks
>I'd like to learn history through audiobooks.
>I don't really know where to start.
Here's a start: learn to read books like everyone else, because you're not going to learn anything just by listening. Reading entails the compulsion to read (which implies you actually care about the subject) and the pace you set, and you're probably not going to rewind that audiobook if you stop listening momentarily, whereas you can just direct your eyes towards where you wandered off with a book. Taking notes, a practice you should naturally get into the habit of when studying history, is far more intuitive with a book, not to mention with ebooks, than the notes you will never take when listening to audiobooks. You might retain a vague memory of the historical narrative in an audiobook, but little else of any value.

tl;dr - stop being a lazy retard and read a book.

>I want to have an overall knowledge of history from prehistory to the mid 20th century.
is this the 'i listen to everything but country and rap' of history?

>>398258
You're an asshole
If you truly love the subject you should feel aroused that someone wants to get into it with his own means. This is a general board, learn some manners

>>398190
Librivox has few books related to history, I have started listening to "Geronimo's life" and it's petty good (even if I do it more like a listening exercise).

If you happen to know italian I would suggest you the historicast's collection.

>>398058
b8 thread I know

But as far as I know, to most major denominations of Christianity, Jesus = God.

>>398062
How is this a bait thread, does anything that doesn't fit your worldview automatically wrong? if so how do you learn?

Jesus wasn't god, he wasn't all powerful. He was superhuman for sure but if he was god he could easily will away all his problems.

>>398072
>posts le epic atheist picture
>pretends to be stupid in OP, asking obvious questions
>HOW IS THIS BAIT??????
Yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
>God as three consubstantial persons,[2] expressions, or hypostases:[3] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".[4] In this context, a "nature" is what one is, while a "person" is who one is.[5][6][7]

>According to this central mystery of most Christian faiths,[8] there is only one God in three persons: while distinct from one another in their relations of origin (as the Fourth Lateran Council declared, "it is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds") and in their relations with one another, they are stated to be one in all else, co-equal, co-eternal and consubstantial, and "each is God, whole and entire".[9]

>>397494
Why aren't you a sufi or a zen buddhist?

Why does orthodox mysticism lack a riddle tradition like buddhism or islam?

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God is supremely good. Of all creation that is capable of rational thought and free will, some are friends to God, some are His true servants, some are estranged, and there are others who, despite their weakness, take their stand against Him. We might imagine that God's friends are those angelic beings which surround him (Seraphim, Cherubim etc...). His true servants are those who sincerely attempt to do His will to the best of their ability. The estranged are those who have not yet met Christ. His opponents are those who go out of their way to attack Him and those who believe.

Lets focus on His true servants because that is all humanity can ever hope to be. In order to be His servant we first must attempt to know who He is. God is the life of all free beings. He is the salvation of all, of the just or the unjust, of the pious or the impious, and of the young or the old. He is like the sun's warmth which is the same for everyone without exception (Rom 2:11). An impious man is a rational being, one that must die, who willingly runs away from life. A Christian is one who attempts to imitate Christ in thought, word and deed to the best of their ability.

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>>397512
The angelic friends of God live in a higher plane of existence which is uncorrupted by sin. These beings are capable of rational thought and attempt to influence our plane of existence when they can. Of course they are not omnipotent so their influence is limited to what God permits. The blessed man attempts to mirror his life to those angelic beings (who are themselves imitators of Christ). In his mind, the Christian attempts to spiritually raise himself up to heaven and perceive the world as Christ did, then act accordingly. We are incapable of perfectly achieving this goal, but the mere act of striving for it is a key to our redemption. The blessed sincerely believes the validity of God's commandments and does all that he can to obey them even through failure. Attempting to live righteously is a constant struggle within one's consciousness but by simply engaging in it we begin to imitate God Himself. Rejecting earthly values is the willing acceptance of ridicule in exchange for a spiritual kingdom.

Christians have many reasons to reject the world; either for the hope of things to come, or because of the number of their sins, or simply because they love God. Without these objectives, denial of the earthly pleasures would make no sense. We believe God will judge us if we do not prepare for Him and will likewise reward us if we love Him (Heb 11:6).

Those of us who wish to escape this worldly prison, to free ourselves from Pharaoh, need our own version of Moses to be our intermediary with God, to translate His will for us. Those who believe in God but attempt to serve Him on their own terms, without a leader, are deceiving themselves. We need someone to teach us how we can best serve God.

this sounds more like philosophy than history OP. I think you're looking for >>>/lit/

>>397423
Did you read the sticky? This board is more than just history. The OP falls under this board's purview.

>>397423
Philosophy is fine here. OP's post sounds like mindless drivel, suited to >>>/x/.

OP should read Kuhn, Lakatos and Feyerabend before posting here again.

>>397367

I'm told it was a kind of dark, ruddy fictional with streaks of light believeability.

>>397381

Here's your reply.

>>397367
Poetic license color.

Their only claim was being the most powerful Orthodox nation after Byzantium fell, so in a sense they 'inherited' their legacy

>>397236
That pretty much covers it. Outside of that it's mental gymnastics.

Ivan III also married Sophia Palaiologina who was not porphyrogennetos, meaning she had zero rights to the throne, and Rurik dynasty got changed to Romanovs then to Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs anyway.

>>397392
So the Roman Empire ended when the first dynasty did? Wasn't that a long time before the Byzantines?

Jesus definitely didn't. If anything, the title of "1st Pope" is pegged on St. Peter, so you could say he founded the Catholic church. I believe Constantine oversaw the formation of the Nicene Creed though, so you could say he's fairly responsible for guiding the church towards the form it now takes.

Jesus established a sort of church consisting of his apostles. Along with Paul, the church quickly splintered into many pieces, which themselves splintered as a result of theological differences. The Roman Catholic Church was established centuries later and reframed history as one truth (that they happened to have) and many heresies (anyone who disagreed with them) instead of the actual plurality of interpretations that existed.

>>396901
Well, the claim by Catholics is that Jesus made Peter the first Pope, so technically that would mean Jesus founded the Church, which is why I asked it that way. I am just confused because there is not a pope mentioned in any of the epistles. When I look online all I find is biased protestant or biased Catholic articles, which is why I ask for an unbiased analysis of the situation. Basically, this is a question about the legitimacy of the Church.

>>396715
No, but you might be interested in the Golden Bough.

>>396715
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18002203-the-origins-of-war-in-child-abuse

maybe this?

>>397376
Wow, based.
For anyone who wants to read: http://psychohistory.com/books/the-origins-of-war-in-child-abuse/chapter-8-infanticide-child-rape-and-war-in-early-states/

>>396975
Thank you.

Kingdoms can be both good or bad. It's republics that are usually good.

Kingdoms are usually associated with nation states while empires with one priviledged nation ruling over others.

>>396696
Not quite, it's more the dynamic of "ragtag group of good-intended guys" vs some evil absolute power.

>mfw every single communist society has failed

>"free market"
>state enforced monopolies exist
Even while not being a free market the *free* market has prevailed.

>>396414
name a state enforced monopoly.

government subsidized markets keep failing. somehow it is the free market's problem.

>>396278
>VI.16.15 (atrium of the House of Pinarius); 6842: If anyone does not believe in Venus, they should gaze at my girl friend

Cue music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaKDOYTZbJg

>>396278
>VI.14.20 (House of Orpheus); 4523: I have buggered men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4t185wl-0

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II.7 (gladiator barracks); 8792: On April 19th, I made bread

>you will never enjoy the simpler pleasures of life after a long day of slitting throats at the Colosseum
>you will never give that bread to that unwed QT in the top row who you couldn't help but notice cheering you on every step of the way
>you will never know the heartache of knowing it is never to be, as your life as a slave gladiator is luxurious but far too short.

I didn't even know these feels existed.

>>396192

In terms of "What the fuck you were thinking" type of bad? Or in terms of "blunder that lead to disastrous consequences" bad? Because the two do correlate, but not perfectly.

>>396197
Just total military fuck-ups that could have been avoided or should have won.

>>396201
Anything Churchill was involved in.

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>>395842

>>395842
Could you repeat the question?

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Yap

>>395673
>Under what political circumstances was the schism created and what does it have to do with Persians? Is it a coincidence or were there ethnic undertones?

Yes. 100%. Persian Islam is completely different from Arabic Islam and that's both because of ethnic and cultural differences, and the fact that Persians had a great empire before the Arabs came along and subjugated them so the Persians resented the Arabs greatly which is why they devised their own philosophy on Islam.

>>395673
The Sunni/Shi'a split is nearly as old as Islam itself. Sunni's favoured Abu Bakr as the first Caliph and believed any one of the Quraysh tribe could be Caliph, Shi'a favoured Ali and believed that only members of the prophet's family could be Caliph. History deepened the divide and many theological differences developed over time.

The Persians had practically nothing to do with the split. The reason Iran is mainly Shi'a is because an Azeri Twelver Shi'a dynasty called the Safavids took power in the 16th century and set to converting the populace.

tfw my family is twelver shia

A little bit weird with all the hidden imam shit.