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Does there, in truth, exist a "right side of history"?
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Only temporarily. What's considered the wrong side historically may just as well be seen as the right side in a century or two.
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No. Right and wrong don't exist, morality is a social cosntruct.
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The "right side of history" is just a battle cry used by moral fascists to convince everyone that their cultural victory is inevitable. I call it a battle cry because it's only ever used to condemn others or reassure their own that they are correct.

Today I had my Latin American history final, went all the way from Columbus voyage up until the Falklands War, it was more focused on the southern cone but also focused heavily on american interventions in central america.

Anyone would like to discuss a topic?
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Are US interventions in Latin America a form of Imperialism?
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>>445711

Most were but there were other interests at play many times. For example you have the Venezuelan Blockade of 1903 which led to the Roosevelt Corollary of 1904.

Since the Monroe Doctrine in 1823 the US mantained the position that european interference in the Americas could lead to a new wave of colonialism and the US couldn't accept that. By the late 18th century though there were extensive european investment in Latin America. When Venezuela refused to pay a large loan to Britain, Germany and Italy in 1902, these countries sent their navy and blocked the Venezuelan ports. America then entered as mediator and the europeans accepter to lift the blockade with the american promise that Venezuela would pay back the loans.

This led Roosevelt to realize that many latin american countries contracting debt they could not pay later could endanger the whole continent security.

After the Roosevelt Corollary of 1904 America decided that they will intervene in the finances of latin american countries to avoid them getting loans they couldn't repay, so no european navies had a reason to put the continent's security at risk.
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Thoughts/anecdotes on the Mexican-American and Spanish-American Conflicts?

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>>445637
Stop
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good thread
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>>445637
But that's a smoke grenade launcher.

https://youtu.be/07zayhBzujU

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Personally, i love the shit out of it, but I'm a Yankee.

It's possibly the comfiest history documentary of all time, from the music, to the smooth timbre of Shelby Foote's voice.

But i hear some Southerners don't like it. Also how can the south be proud of the war when men from places like Connecticut, New Jersey or Delaware BTFO'd Texas or Alabama.

What do you think /his/? The Civil War, Yankee propaganda or the truth?
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really enjoying it and im not even a civil war buff
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>>445662
the Ken Burns documentaries on Prohibition and the Shakers are also really good.
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>>445612
It's alright

I basically ignore anything that one black woman says. Shelby Foote is fucking gold.

The film tends to portray Northerners as being justified, and it tends to portray the South in a somewhat harsh light, but it does attempt to be fair to both sides.

Personally I just recommend Foote's Civil War to people though, it's basically a book form of the documentary with more objectivity and detail.

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Why do you believe in a higher power? Why don't you?

I don't care if you think there isn't any, but please refrain from just posting "no evidence", it doesn't make for very good readin'
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>>445576
What else am I supposed to say besides that there is no evidence?
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>>445576
Why would I?
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>>445585
it's not a very good answer family

>>445590
this, too. why wouldn't you? because it's not the in thing right now?

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I have a question to muslim anons. The Quran says that every nation was sent a messenger but... who was the messenger in America? (the entire continent)

This is a serious question, by the way. I'm not trying to criticize Islam, nor am I interested in what anti-Islam anons want to say.

Also, any information about messengers from other parts of the world will be greatly appreciated.
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>>445569
Muhammad (pbuh) was the last messenger, the messenger for all of the nations
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>>445569
Allah knows
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>>445569

Read about the Perennial Philosophy and check out SH Nasr.

The Quran does not list a set of peoples and their corresponding messengers. The theological idea is that God, since God is most just, did not leave humans in moral darkness. All humans in all of time and space have possessed: 1) fitrah, the ability to perceive morality and act according to it 2) access to spiritual guidance based on/containing a legitimate revelation which ultimately is sourced in God.

I forget the name for number 2 and I may have framed it incorrectly, but I think this is the rough idea. No human on judgement day can claim they did not ever hear words of truth.

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Why have the Jews been oppressed by so many groups throughout history? I once read they are basically the immigrants that never assimilate and make an easy scapegoat because they are also always a minority, but is it really that simple?

No /pol/ shit.
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>>445557
They're a mercantile disapora culture and sadly, those are never liked anywhere. The Armenians and some of the Chinese diaspora living in the island countries get the same treatment and have the same reputation in their respective spheres of existence. It's just that the jews are familiar to us.
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It's actually because they never assimilate, not because they're a minority.
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Their religion is racist to some extent, in that you can't just join in one day and be welcome into the club.

That gives them some "secret society" sort of feel.

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>he's a biblical literalist
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>>445407
>get btfo by science
>its just a metaphor guys lol
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>>445407
>he takes the Bible seriously
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>>445407
What is the point of teaching a religion though the bible if you'll just make it nothing more than a compilation of fables with some morals every now and then?
That's what Buddhism is for.

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During its peak, did the Roman Empire have more complex infrastructure and technology for the time than the Song dynasty at its peak?
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>>445390
No. The Roman Empire was more powerful that the Han Dynasty, but not the Song. Then again, the Song came over 700 years later
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>>445398
Sorry, I don't know why I wrote powerful, I meant advanced. Powerful is a loaded term
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>>445426
Well, the Song had gunpowder. That's a big deal.

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Is pic related a good show?

Also, /his/ approved shows, movies and documentaries.
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>>445318
I enjoy Narcos. It's a very well done look inside Latin America during the 80s
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I was just watching it. Seems interesting. They made a point of saying the whole 'brainwashed child murderer' thing about the Hashishin was propaganda by the Sunni to make them look bad.
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>>445920
Yeah, good show. One of the few Netflix shows I didn't drop out of halfway through the first season.

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Catholicism is the most overpowered religion that has ever existed. Prove me wrong.

Pro-tip:
>You cant
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>frogposter

Pro tip: kys
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>>445260
>overpowered
Elaborate.
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>>445260
If you mean overpowering little boys, then yes.

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When you look at a map of oil in the middle east, suddenly american foreign policy in the region starts to make a lot more sense.
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>>445153
We should created a coalition against isralel and Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq.
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>>445173
ebin
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>>445173
Well meme'd my friend.

More realistically we should force those rich ass gulf states to take the Syrian refugees, then partition Iraq and Syria along Shia/Sunni/Kurdish lines.

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What's the greatest work of art of this century so far?
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/11/arts.september11
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>>445045
[The attacks of 9/11 were] the greatest work of art imaginable for the whole cosmos. Minds achieving something in an act that we couldn't even dream of in music, people rehearsing like mad for 10 years, preparing fanatically fora concert, and then dying, just imagine what happened there. You have people who are that focused on a performance and then 5,000 [sic] people are dispatched to the afterlife, in a single moment. I couldn't do that. By comparison, we composers are nothing. Artists, too,sometimes try to go beyond the limits of what is feasible and conceivable, so that we wake up, so that we open ourselves to another world. […] It's a crime because those involved didn't consent. They didn't come to the 'concert.'That's obvious. And no one announced that they risked losing their lives. What happened in spiritual terms, the leap out of security, out of what is usually taken for granted, out of life, that sometimes happens to a smal lextent in art, too, otherwise art is nothing. -Karlheinz Stockhausen

This man said "everything in the world is rational" but i don't really understand his philosophy right now; how can you say this after USSR, Auschwitz, Nazism. If everything is rational, what were the goals of these huge ideological mistakes of mankind ?

Can the philosophy of history of Hegel be still right and credible in our century ?
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If you cant see the rationality behind these things than you wont understand the rationality behind hegel
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>>444975
that's why i'm asking for help ! I haven't managed to read hegel's books, too complicated for me, but i've read books about him so explain me please.
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Reason as the faculty that conditions our experience of the world; he sets out from Kant here. He isn't saying that every single action ever taken was done because somebody looked over their syllogisms, found they were all sound, and proceeded to act exclusively on those rational principles. He means that the very perception of a historical event implies that reason is at work. This perception negates the original content of the event and produces a new negated negation (that is, interpretation) of the event in question. Apply this principle to everything and you get Hegelianism. The French Revolution was the end of history because it gave birth to the modern State, not because everybody suddenly started being logical when the Jacobins started chopping off heads.

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Let's say hypothetically its a couple thousand-something years ago, you are in a market place, and you come upon a slave merchant.

Would you buy a slave? be honest.
Reminder you'd be in a society that has no social issue with slavery.
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>>444940
Yeah because I'd be raised in an environment where this is the norm.
This thread is pointless.
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>>444940
Depends on my needs.

Anyone who says absolutely not is assuming their morality would be the exact same across time and space.
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>>444940
oh course....shit I'd do it a couple hundred-something years ago.

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