What if Lee had won Gettysburg and taken Washington DC?
Would that have made the Union surrender?
How feasible was it?
>>573202
The Union would have had a crippling loss of morale. There would have been rallies for a peace deal with the South, they probably would give up Maryland, West Virginia and Kentucky as well as some Western states in return for a peace deal.
>>573202
>What if Lee had won Gettysburg and taken Washington DC?
Are you retarded? A victory in Pennsylvania wouldn't destroy the garrison in D.C. or give the Confederates the logistical ability to settle in for a siege.
>How feasible was it?
A victory in Gettysburg? Certainly feasible. Leading to a total Union collapse and the fall of D.C.? Not feasible at all.
>>573304
It would've done a great deal of damage to Union morale though, which was already low enough. In all honesty though, I think it would've been better if the South stuck to a defensive strategy rather than risk the invasion.
I'll be using Florida as the topic for a much general problem we have been facing.
"We will make the Florida Cracker the most racist and ignorant person in America."--A politician.
Since its inception La Florida has been a state very close to the Latino community not in the U.S but abroad as well. It is said that the majority of Floridians have latino ancestry. Even amongst the crackers, a vast majority have latino ancestry. They lived like latino swamp people and cow handlers for hundreds of years. Family last names like Castro were changed to Castor.
It is said that Florida was a swamp and instead of "Americans" moving there, their rich people and Gov't would bring in servants from latin america.
During the flight age of America, when men took to the skies. It is said the U.S. hired hundreds if not thousands of a certain latin american people to live in Florida and train their pilots. In compensation the U.S. gov't gave them land, a home, and a job. And even before them, they were trading cows and horses with the American cracker.
During the Castro revolt in order to get a certain people from exerting strength as the predominant people, they brought in people from another country in latin america and gave them a better treatment since they wouldn't have ties back to their homeland. And gave them political jobs with the CIA and in turn they hindered Florida's true history.
These files went closely tied to operation Paperclip. Operation paperclip wasn't all about Germany. They were about the importation of trained work force.
So cattle ranching families from Texas. As they call themselves 20+ generational Texans. Were helping the 5+ generational Floridians settle u.s land disputes. Theres a reason homestead is called homestead. A man by the the name of Bush using intelligence used his sons and put them in position of power in these states. Because they are the states of land dispute with the spanish homesteaders.
>>573023
A from there they all blamed Bush of knocking down the towers and slamming the planes right into the library that housed Americana.
Is it possible to have an unbiased historical narrative or is that just a dream?
>>572841
The day you find an ubiased narrative let me know
>>572841
Anything you include or don't include is automatically bias.
>>573186
This
Tell me about the Umayyads, /his/. How were they able to control such a large swath of territory? What differentiated them from the other caliphates?
U mad?
They didn't really hold them long and i don't know how honest that map is.
I know Ottoman empire maps usually include tributary and vassal states as being a part of the empire.
>>572643
>How were they able to control such a large swath of territory?
They didn't, they only lasted 90 years before being overthrown by the Abbasids.
Why don't we just give Jesus, God etc new names and just leave the Americans to ruin the old stuff?
>>572231
America doesnt have a monopoly on christianity.
Should we use Yahweh and Yeshua for the symmetry, El and Emmanuel, what are we talking here?
>>572231
Good idea in theory, not sure if it's practically applicable.
Any of you know anything about the hanseatic league? I'm curious about their poltical and economical power and how far did it stretch?
>>572042
Novgorod, Bruges. Obviously the influence in itself stretched farther than that, especially in the case of Novgorod where they where the end destination for most of the North West Asian raw materials. No idea if they had any colony or posts on the white sea but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
I wish to know more as well, it seems they faded over the years in favor of nation states especially Hanover, Prussia and the Netherlands.
cyka blyat
>>572042
They seem like a mix of corporation and a state
What does /his/ think of Alan Watts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkhR9c17ibE
>>571734
I like him. He sounds a little dated when he starts going off talking about the hippy generation or the beatniks... but other than that, he is fun to listen to.
I also like Jiddu Krishnamurti.
What's he all about?
>>572135
Zen Buddhism
Is the Nostratic Theory plausible?
The idea that the majority of languages are all connected doesn't seem so crazy, it could be possible that the coming of a language is a rare occurrence.
As far as I know it seems writing only occured separately in China and Egypt, Egyptian hieroglyphics being the precursor to the most alphabets used today, although I'm probably wrong.
Why isn't more research being done on the Nostratic theory?
>>571531
Writing is an extremely sophisticated concept, it's no surprise it has only emerged a handful of times.
Speech much less so. Lots of animals have some means of speech that they almost instinctively know how to communicate with. Even man has this despite having a much more sophisticated means of speech, since if you start yelling at someone in any language they'll know what's up.
>>571531
writing originates from mesopotamia and it was the cuneiform alphabet, the first known form of writing. if all alphabets originate from it or several alphabets were developed later separately from cufic its possile but writting occured first in mesopotamia.
>>571531
It's rightly considered a fringe theory because it's outside the boundaries of historical linguistics. You can't reconstruct anything as far back as Nostratic would be with the comparative method.
Writing also developed independently in Mesoamerica.
What are some good books about the history of public housing in the US?
>>571250
People's History by Zinn
>>571379
nice meme
>>571379
No.
What can /his/ tell me about the Cristero War?
How accurate is this movie?
>be norteño mexicano
>have family that fought, died, and protected the bishop of Guadalajara during the war
>be a student of history
>dont know jack shit about this
How fucked up am I, /his/?
why isnt this common knowledge?
>>571404
Nobody cares about Latin American history, because there's no chance of a happy ending.
Ok so this may belong to /tv/ if so, sorry
I'm looking for historicaly accurate movies about the discovery of the Americas
It can be about pretty much everything, from the very first travel of Colombus to the western Frontier of the USA, trappers in Canada, the conquistadores...
By historical and accurate I mean either movies depicting actual events or fiction with good reconstitution of the times and places etc
Thanks
Malick's The New World is surprisingly good for accuracy. The Pocahontas/John Smith stuff is all fiction, but most of the rest of the movie is very accurate, especially its depiction of the normal lives of the Jamestown settlers and nearby Native Americans.
>>570970
Black Robe, yo.
>>570970
Apocalypto od pretty solid if you forget the whole Mel Gibson thing.
The main inaccuracy is that it merged some aspects of Aztecs into Mayas and set the plot in the latest Classic period (Actually during the Maya collapse) , which was long before the Spanish arrived.
Did Catholics (particularly those in Hungary and Spain) really consider frequent bathing to be a sinful/Islamic activity?
The Visigoths thought the Roman bathes were degenerate and effeminate, the Spaniards inherited this thought, and the Muslims enjoying the bathes amplified their disdain for it.
Id like to mention that bathing has diminishing returns on sanitation. It agitates the skin and kills your antibodies along with all the germs it kills. Id like to mention that our body also uses several types of germa as mercenaries, mny of which the body contracts slower than it does bacteria.
Id like to mention how important beds are, because they act as a breeding ground for our mercenaries.
Is this a shitty troll thread?
So what caused the decline of Detroit after ww2 and its instability in the 60s? Was it due to the auto industry facing heavy competition from Japan and Germany and later being outsourced to the third world or something else?
1 word: Niggers
>in the 20s and 30s, black people begin leaving the South en masse in search of opportunities in manufacturing centers
>as it turns out, the North is just as racist as the south
>racial tensions lead to a series of riots
>white flight reaches critical mass as the remaining, mostly black and working class, population begins to dominate local politics and vote in incompetent democrats
>automation and globalization reduce the amount of blue collar jobs available, most black people don't have the resources to make a jump to the new specialist economy
>white people all leave for the Detroit suburbs, which to this day are some of the wealthiest areas of the US
>>569995
>African American Folks
Gimme some books to read to get into history
Pic unrelated
Start with the Greeks.
One must know philosophy to a degree, as history is best understood in the context of the thought of the time.
>>570002
Based, I'll pick those up
The Origins of the Second World War - A.J.P Taylor
Greeks are for fags let's be honest, the real fun is 1707-1991
The enlightenment, the birth of modern philosophy, Colonial wars, the first large scale wars in Europe, the birth of the USA, the collapse of the Spanish Empire, the rise of Napoleon, the age of nationalism, the industrial revolution the shift in the European balance of power, the unification of Italy, the American Civil War, the birth of Germany, the rise of the Japanese Empire, the scramble for Africa, the alliance system WWI, the russian revolution, the growth of radical politics, the rise of fascism, the rise of Hitler, the second world war, the cold war, the fall of the Soviet Union, the birth of the new world order
WWII is the easiest and best to start with
G E O - P O L I T I C S
What is more important, the pursuit of knowledge or knowledge itself?
Knowledge itself. You wouldnt need to pursue it if you had it.
Reform your questions along the lines of
>funding better education or research
Wisdom.
>>569666
>you wouldn't need to pursue it if you had it.
But there is joy in learning, and learning gives purpose. If you had all knowledge you would lose joy and purpose. Learning is one of the things we think of as making us human
I know what I said, you just didn't think on it deeply, or maybe you just don't think that is a valid perspective, which is a totally legitimate way of seeing it