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I just found out that I'm 1/256th Portuguese. Inform me of my people please.
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they were horny guys and totally into racemixing
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>>674784
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>>674784
t.alberto barbosa

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This board is in such a deplorable state that we have to do something about it. I've been holding off from posting meta-discussion up until now, but i've decided it is time to say something, as i'm of the opinion that even this thread that you are reading in right now is of higher quality than 90% of the threads currently up on the catalogue of this board.

This board is supposed to contain "a high level of discourse". It's made for "discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc." (quotes from the sticky). I'm not gonna quote the sticky more, it's right there for everyone who wants to read (you should go read it right now if you haven't).

Now, the quality of most threads obviously don't meet the criteria stipulated in the sticky. I'm going to give a few examples of low-quality threads, my percieved reasons for why these threads degrade the quality of the discussion on the board, and my suggestions to improve the situation.

>"What if?" -threads.
Also known as "alternate history". These threads may be interesting, but contain mostly baseless speculation. The OP will post a question, for example: "What if Napoleon hadn't invaded Russia, what would have happened?". In these threads any response is valid. Since no one can possibly know what would have happened, had history taken another course than that which it did in fact take, discussion devolves into a war of opinions. My suggestion for dealing with these threads is to confine them into one (or a few) general, running "Alternate history" threads.
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>One-line-question -threads.
These are a few examples from the catalogue:
>"We're the Nazis Übermensch?"
>"Was there ever a perfectly secular country?"
>"Did the Holocaust have any benefits for the Third Reich"
The problem with these threadstarts is that they don't even come near deep and meaningful discussion. The only suggestion i can give here, is to WRITE A DECENT FIRST POST! Explain your thoughts about the subject matter. If you came here to spark discussion, don't just drop a sentence and hope for the best.

>"Tell me about X" -threads.
Also known as "Please google this for me, /his/" threads. The OP wants an in-depth essay on his choice matter, but gives no input himself. Maybe he posted a relevant picture at best. This kind of thread is awful for much the same reasons as the One-line-questions.

>Name-dropping -threads.
Example threadstarts of these are: "Who is your favorite emperor /his?", "Post god-tier gods ITT", "What's your favorite period of history?" The problem with these threads is that the majority of posters will simply drop off a name. The thread will ultimately consist of a huge list of names / empires / musicians / car models / goat breeds etc. Without an incentive for discussion in the originalpost, the thread just becomes a sterile registry of names.

>Reading recommendations.
People are starting entire new threads in order to ask for a recommendation of source material which to read regarding their choice subject. The issue being (of course) that such a question does not warrant an entire thread. These type of questions need a dedicated thread, no doubt. Other, more long-running boards like /lit/ already have a tradition of recommendation threads. Perhaps you could should ask over there instead?
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Now this all being said, i suggest that posters need to ask themselves the 3 following questions before they start a thread:
1. Could i answer this question with a quick google search?
2. Have i supplied enough initial information to spark intellectual discourse?
3. Is there already an active thread in the catalogue for this subject?

These three different questions correspond to 3 hypothetical general threads that i would like to see occurring in the catalogue here on /his/, these being:
1. Reading / Watching Recommendation Thread.
2. Alternate History Speculation Thread.
3. Stupid Questions Thread.
Of course, these are just my personal suggestions.

To janitors i want to say: Please do your job (heh) and delete low quality threads! Threads that are obviously shitposting, threads like "Redpill me on X", "Was he a meme /his/?" "What went wrong?" "When did you grow out of atheism?" "Who is your historical waifu?" "Time for dank memes /his/" don't belong on this board.

I would not have started this thread if i did not feel some sense of affection for this board and its users. I just want to implore everyone to remember that this board is supposed to contain high-tier discussion. We are gathered here because of our interest in history and the humanities. Meta-threads such as this one do not belong on the board, and this thread should not be necessary, if the situation wasn't as horrible as it is right now. In a nutshell, my hope is that the quality of threadstarts should improve, the amount of shitposting go down significantly, and that actual legitimate discussion threads should survive a lot longer due to the reduction in the daily amount of threadstarts.
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>>674678
I strongly agree OP, but I there is an issue with you suggesting generals when the sticky warns against making generals.

I'm fascinated by occultists, though I don't believe in anything they say. What does /his/ think of Crowley, Gardner, and their ilk? Egotists building up cults of personality around themselves or quacks who genuinely believe what they teach?
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>>674590
Not knowing alot about Crowley, one can be both. Deguchi Onisaburo would be a good example. He most certainly delved into some very legitimate shamanistic practices, Yet he definatly built up quite a cult and was even charged with Lèse-majesté
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>>674590
I've always found the arcane sciences of Evola and his cultists more interesting than Crowley's work. More plausible.

https://juliusevola.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/3-julius-evola-introduction-to-magic.pdf
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I've heard Crowley based most his work off of etteilla

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Does Communism make any allowances for the fact that some jobs are harder than others?

I'm not a scholar on the subject, but i'm curious to see if (Ideal, full workers paradise, no stalinism) communism recognises that it's harder to be a doctor or a scientist than a factory worker
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>>674346
Communism is a society in which there is no longer a need for the state so it slowly withers away, you're thinking of socialism. Socialism simply means democratic control of the means of production by the workers and workers receive the value that they create rather than a significantly reduced wage to benefit their boss (obviously the worker does not receive ALL of the value they create as some goes towards production expansion and the government, but wages are still much closer to the value they represent). What this boils down to is different wages for different professions, but appropriate wages regardless of profession. I would also like to take a moment to debunk the meme that statism = socialism, police, libraries, roads, and jails are not socialist institutions, regardless of what that chart your hipster friend posted on facebook says. Publicly owned institutions are a part of the theoretical socialist governments, but they do not define them. Also worth noting Syndicalism > Bolshevism
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>>675865
tldr version of this: yes
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communism is just you can take whatever you want while doing what you can
some jobs might be harder than others, but of course there's no way to measure how hard a certain job is, the point is that we don't do any more work than we actually need to

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i'm starting to realize if you look at any really powerful people throughout history through the lens of conventional everyday morality, they're basically all evil as shit, but you always need someone or some group at the top to make decisions or everything goes to hell
what really makes a ruler benevolent or evil?
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>what really makes a ruler benevolent or evil?

Start here OP...
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What about Marcus Aurelius, Hadrian, William the Conqueror (good leadership for the Eternal Anglo) and so on?
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a benevolent ruler is an ignorant ruler

an evil ruler is a wise ruler

>implying good and evil really exists

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>pic related

Did Emperor Meiji plan the war, or did his advisers conceive the idea of attacking Russia?

Why didn't the British fully commit to the Japanese side?

How was the United States able to convince the two sides to meet a peace agreement?

Does Japan have a legitimate claim to Sakhalin & the Kurils, historically speaking?

Also feel free to discuss the war in general and post related pics.
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>>673968
>Why didn't the British fully commit to the Japanese side?
Primarily because the French had an alliance with Russia and had Britain decided to come steaming in, France would have been obliged to fight alongside Russia. This was something that neither parties wanted, considering the situation with Germany in Europe (who would have gained massively from an Anglo-French split), and the looming Entente cordiale treaty was literally around the corner (it was signed 2 months after hostilities between Russia and Japan had broken out). Secondly most of the world was expecting Russia to curb-stomp the Japanese, you have to remember that the world was utterly astounded when the Japanese beat the Russians at Tsushima.
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>>674212
Thanks, I didn't realize the French and Russians were allied at the time. I have heard/read that the British did support in small ways, do you know of any examples of this?
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>>673968

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc3IrJwG7o

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/his/, Who are the true heirs to the Roman Empire?
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Western Roman Empire => Holy Roman Empire => Empire of Austria
Eastern Roman Empire => Imperial Russia => Finland
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Rome==>Byzantines==>Turks

Rome fell in the 1920s, never forget.
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>>673951
There are no more heirs Roman values became memetic more then one nation can uphold values of rome

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A_CAkYt3GY

What does /his/ think so far? It's actually not as terrible as I was expecting.
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Can somebody explain me the benefit of people studying philosophy in universities?
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>>673983
>self understanding
>understanding other people
>critical thinking
>reading comprehension
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>philos vs mythos

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Did the Holocaust have any benefits for the Third Reich
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>>673938

Fulfillment of ideological imperatives.
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It would have gotten rid of the Jews if it had worked, which probably would have been good for Germany
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>>673943
In what way?
They would have lost their intellectual elite, which seems like a pretty big disadvantage to me

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tfw you realize that the British did more good than evil for the world.
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>>673751
thanks for Wahabism you perfidious albion
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Thanks for Africa Albion
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>>673751
Is this the new shitposting thread?

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Why?

No /pol/ stuff please
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>>673652
>why are these specific people the greatest source for the standards of accomplishment which they themselves set

Hmmm
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>>673652
>Poland actually on the list

WE CAN INTO small ACHIEVEMENT
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>>673652
Because of whites. And no, I'm not trying to /pol/, but it's true. During those times, Europe was engulfed by many wars compared to other parts of the world yet managed to get so many accomplishments. Why do you think that is?

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Given that you could not, for the sake of wondering, be a Christian, and given the option between Islam and whatever paganism is most closely associated to your culture, which would you choose? The other Abrahamic religion that is somewhat similar to Christianity (>inb4 totally different) or your Zeus, Odin/Wodan, and other assorted?
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>>673611
>compare your similarities to islam to various schools of thought that were both primative in their time and largely lost

This is stupid.

Further:
>If you couldn't be of the true faith, which untrue faith would you support

Anon this is a poor thread.
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>>673633
>>compare your similarities to islam to various schools of thought that were both primative in their time and largely lost
That's why it's a question for an individual.

>>If you couldn't be of the true faith, which untrue faith would you support
>for the sake of wondering
Read the OP

Out comes down to wether you'd choose between something similar to Christianity, another Abrahamic faith, or your land ties. Assume whatever you choose is now "correct".
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>>673611
I'd definitely choose Islam, it's only a skip and a jump away from Roman Catholicism as it is. To be a "pagan" you'd have to change your entire lifestyle, start living in the woods sacrificing goats and praising oaks or whatever
Also:
>worshiping demons
>ever
I seriously hope you heathens don't do this

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Is he a meme philosopher?
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yes, pure memeology
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>>673586
Is this a meme thread?
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>>673586
I like him, he's a cool guy

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Was it a genocide?
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>>673423
Territorial expansion!
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>>673436
>Territorial expansion!

And what seems to be an almost complete population replacement along the way. There's less than 500k of Chams remaining.
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>>673423
yes, but they aren't white so who cares

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>"For the average person, all problems date to World War II; for the more informed, to World War I; for the genuine historian, to the French Revolution."

Is there any doubt that the French Revolution is the worst event in world history?
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Yes? Existence of the whites.
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mind explaining why?
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>implying Charlemange isn't to blame

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