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Sup /his/, I couple weeks ago I got my court summons for jury selection. Has anyone here sat on a jury before? There's still a small chance I'll actually be selected to be on a jury but I think it would be an interesting experience.

Also common law thread.
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>>795976
I've not done it in your country, but did it a few years ago in a Crown Court here in London. It was surprisingly enjoyable. Make sure you actually take notes and don't make any snap judgements for fuck's sake. You literally have one job. Oh and don't even think about sending any messages, tweeting or god forbid googling somebody's name. You can destroy the entire case and be charged with a criminal offence (at least here).

I expect there isn't much difference between Canadian and UK law on such matters however. Just don't be an idiot and you'll be fine. Soak the experience up, you'll be performing literally the only public duty a person can be conscripted to do in the 21st century western world, it's that important.
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>>796836
cool thanks for the input

I`m not officially a juror yet, I just have to go for jury selection
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>>795976
>french obligatory
>not in quebec
Seriously?

In any case, burger here. I went in the jury selection, and honestly there's a ridiculously easy way out (at least here) that doesn't require any lying or trickery.

They ask if you could fairly deliver a verdict about the violation of a law, no matter your opinion on the justness or fairness of the law itself, or the punishment in case of conviction. They went down the line, everybody answering yes.

Literally fucking cattle, I swear to god. I said, "No. I could never send somebody to prison or penalize them at all if I don't think what they did was wrong. Even though that's not necessarily true in this case."

And that was the end of it. The judge thanked me for being honest, they asked all of us or some people at random a few questions, six people most satisfactory/neutral were selected, and we all went home.

I just don't understand what a sheep you have to be to declare somebody guilty of a "crime" you don't even consider wrong.

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Why did not any civilization employ them?

Boars are dangerous, fearsome animals and surpass horses in many logistical departments and lethality. Their meat can be sacrificed on long desert walks (such as conquering Egypt etc. long barren distances ), more delicious meat. Highly intelligent animals too.
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>>>795910

Because it's fucking hard to get them to do what you want. You may as well ask why people didn't use war-lions next.
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>>795920
I've owned several pet pigs and they were all very obedient unto my will
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>>795920
This and you can't breed them to tame them or they turn into tasty pigs.

Who was the first known atheist?
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>>795900
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagoras_of_Melos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodorus_the_Atheist
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>>796017
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagoras_of_Melos
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodorus_the_Atheist

man now they know if God exists or not
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>>796039
They don't know anything since they don't exist anymore.

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Some say that Norsemen used to be peaceful traders before going batshit and starting raids but that doesn't make much sense the fact that blood feuds were a thing (in fact that was the reason why every free man etiher carried a weapon or was within few steps of one) and a lot of their gods are violent clearly shows that they weren't a culture of dindunuffins. It seems like people who tried to show that Norsemen were more than just raiders went into another extreme and painted them as hippies who never attacked unprovoked and cuddlied puppies. Are historians full of shit?
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Trying to learn anything from the internet, espescially 4chan is fucking stupid. I can even begin to explain how retarded everyone is when discussing the vikings. Its almost always biased Scandinavians praising them or wannabee nords who decided to bring the vikings down if they couldn't join them.

Basically the vikings is a no-go subject on /his/.
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1. "Vikings" were never a group of people. Viking was something you did, a multi-purpose thing which basically meant "sailing near the coast to different places", it carries no implication of the purpose of the journey, it could be for raiding, trading, establishing relations, diplomacy or just sight-seeing or whatever
2. Every "free man" did probably carry a weapon in the 9th-10th century, this was because people lived closer to nature and took care of themselves in a way that modern citydwellers probably don't understand. A knife and an axe was an everyday survival tool.
3. "Norsemen" was never a consolidated group of people. This was before cars, railroads, steamboats and the internet. The people who lived a few miles away from you might belong to an entirely different cultural subgroup. There weren't danes or swedes or brits, there was only a clusterfuck of different tribes with chieftains fighting each other for power.
4. Try reading a book, 4chan memes are not a good source of information
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>>795873
>Go into battle without chest armor
>Get hit by one single arrow
What are you gonna do now faggot?

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When will the corruption end? What is the death toll of capitalist culture?
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>>795577
The invention of the Universal Constructor will kill capitalism and the banking families.
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Kali yuga began approximately five thousand years ago, and it has a duration of 432,000 years, leaving us with 427,000 years till the end of the present age. Within this 432,000 year period, there is a period of 10,000 years that will be a golden age. After 432,000 Years we will enter new Satya Yuga (Golden Age)

Characteristics of Kali-Yuga (Present Iron Age)
>Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.
>Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.
>People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.
>Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur.
>People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.
>Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.
>Sin will increase exponentially, whilst virtue will fade and cease to flourish.
>People will take vows and break them soon after.
>People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.
>Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.
>Brahmans will not be learned or honored, Kshatriyas will not be brave, Vaishyas will not be just in their dealings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga
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>>795603
Evola was right all along

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>mfw when rome conquers gaulic dipshits
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>>795265
>you'll never know what it feels like to be celebrated for committing genocide
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>>795265

>THATFEELVHENIGNORANTBARBARIANSVSEDEGENERATETHINGSLIKELOVERCASELETTERSANDPVNCTVATIONANDSPACING.
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Ayo where da roman wimmin at

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who was the first king and how did they get to power? How did some say ok I'm king now every listen to my every command
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people were just like, "holy shit guys muh kings and the state of nature" and eventually kings started to come around
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also hobbes
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>>795157
Go read Kropotkin's Mutual Aid and Engel's Family, Private Property and the State

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I mean, real peace, not some sort of treaty or whatever you call it.
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>>794301
The first few centuries after the Islamic conquest weren't too awful.
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>>794301

Depends if you call dhimmitude "peace". But no, not really: Even tho Muslims are supposedly forbidden from harming Jews and Christians, so long as those Jews and Christians are properly submissive to Muslim rule, there were still periodic massacres of non-Muslims throughout the Islamic dominions.
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In Muslim Spain, mandatory conversion of Christian and Jewish minorities were outlawed and persecution was unheard of.

Compare that to what Christians were doing towards their religious minorities at the time.

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We have loads of pic everywhere.
What do they mean? I'm in Northern England on the border with Scotland. There are loads of these stones. And they're ancient. Dated to Iron Age.
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>>793926
What do you mean by "these stones"?

Stones with spirals'
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>>793926
What do you mean by "these stones"?

Stones with spirals?
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They are what's called Pictish cup and ring markings and they are all over the UK.
As to what they mean, I'm sure your guess is as good as anyone elses

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What's the best estimation for the death toll of the Inquisition?
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idk not very high

one is too many though given that it was a totally pointless exercise
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>>793839
In what numbers though?
The protestants on this board usually say up along the seven digits.
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2000-5000

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Gulf War was unfair.
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>>793600
talk shit get hit
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>>793600
Chat shit get banged
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Invade Kuwait get raped.

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I don't understand Africa. If it was the cradle of life, why did people leave, why did people outside of Africa make amazing cities and art? Why is Africa still hundreds of years behind everyone else? Tell me because I am uninformed.
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>>793395
Someone sure takes their /pol/ infographics seriously.
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>>793395
>Why is Africa still hundreds of years behind everyone else?
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>>793395
>why did people leave
Because they could.
>why did people outside of Africa make amazing cities and art?
Because the conditions were good and they invented and adopted farming, which allowed them to build civilization.
>Why is Africa still hundreds of years behind everyone else?
They were never civilized, only portions of the populace were and once the colonial powers went away, the savage parts of society quickly overwhelmed the civilized natives and it turned into pseudo-tribalism full of nepotism and corruption.

Whitey did a lot more damage by leaving than they did via exploitation.

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Why is Platonic idealism wrong, exactly?

I understand the additions to the concept by the Neoplatonists were what a lot of people really had a problem with, but the original idea, as presented in the Republic and the other dialogues, seems to be an interesting alternative to materialism and nominalism. It solves the Problem of Universals better than any competing idea, at least.

All it really needs is a little organization. Secretary work, essentially, to classify and code the Forms.
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See Diogenes's rebuttal.
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>>793130

"To be attracted to the Platonic dialogue, this horribly self-satisfied and childish kind of dialectic, one must never have read good French writers — Fontenelle, for example. Plato is boring. In the end, my mistrust of Plato goes deep: he represents such an aberration from all the basic Greek instincts, is so moralistic, so pseudo-Christian (he already takes the concept of "the good" as the highest concept) that I would prefer the harsh phrase "higher swindle" or, if it sounds better, "idealism" for the whole phenomenon of Plato."
-nietzche
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>>793185
This is just Nietzsche throwing a shit fit because some writer rubbed him the wrong way. As usual.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0

Conversation between Hitler and Mannerheim, where Hitler tells about the biggest failures of Barbarossa and how Germany (and almost everybody else) had no ideas what kind of armament Soviet Union was capable of produce.

I think it is one of the more interesting conversation because it was recorded in secret and even Hitler seems absolutely amazed on the Soviet armaments and their capability of mobilizing their citizens.
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>>793107
Hitler: ...a very serious danger, perhaps the most serious one - it's whole extent we can only now judge. We did not ourselves understand - just how strong this state [the USSR] was armed.

Mannerheim: No, we hadn't thought of this.

Hitler: No, I too, no.

Mannerheim: During the Winter War - during the Winter War we had not even thought of this. Of course...

Hitler: (Interrupting) Yes.

Mannerheim: But so, how they - in reality - and now there is no doubt all they had - what they had in their stocks!

Hitler: Absolutely, This is - they had the most immense armaments that, uh, people could imagine. Well - if somebody had told me that a country - with...(Hitler is interrupted by the sound of a door opening and closing.) If somebody had told me a nation could start with 35,000 tanks, then I'd have said: "You are crazy!"

Mannerheim: Thirty-five?

Hitler: Thirty-five thousand tanks.

Another Voice In Background: Thirty-five thousand! Yes!

Hitler: We have destroyed - right now - more than 34,000 tanks. If someone had told me this, I'd have said: "You!" If you are one of my generals had stated that any nation has 35,000 tanks I'd have said: "You, my good sir, you see everything twice or ten times. You are crazy; you see ghosts." This I would have deemed possible. I told you earlier we found factories, one of them at Kramatorskaja, for example, Two years ago there were just a couple hundred [tanks]. We didn't know anything. Today, there is a tank plant, where - during the first shift a little more than 30,000, and 'round the clock a little more than 60,000, workers would have labored - a single tank plant! A gigantic factory! Masses of workers who certainly, lived like animals and...
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>>793107
>>793110
Hitler: Already in the fall of 1940 we continuously faced the question, uh: shall we, consider a break up [in relations with the USSR]? At that time, I advised the Finnish government, to - negotiate and, to gain time and, to act dilatory in this matter - because I always feared - that Russia suddenly would attack Romania in the late fall - and occupy the petroleum wells, and we would have not been ready in the late fall of 1940. If Russia indeed had taken Romanian petroleum wells, than Germany would have been lost. It would have required - just 60 Russian divisions to handle that matter.

In Romania we had of course - at that time - no major units. The Romanian government had turned to us only recently - and what we did have there was laughable. They only had to occupy the petroleum wells. Of course, with our weapons I could not start a, war in September or October. That was out of the question. Naturally, the transfer to the east wasn't that far advanced yet. Of course, the units first had to reconsolidate in the west. First the armaments had to be taken care of because we too had - yes, we also had losses in our campaign in the west. It would have been impossible to attack - before the spring of 19, 41. And if the Russians at that time - in the fall of 1940 - had occupied Romania - taken the petroleum wells, then we would have been, helpless in 1941.
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kek. Big A is basically whining that the russians have a billion tanks. "How was i supposed to know!?" Well maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place, tard.

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how have we divorced nature?
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Annulment.
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is there a way to undo this ache. that the truth is unattainable in both part and parcel as long as what remains is a product of the self divorcing from nature.
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Everything is nature.

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