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Was Rhodesia actually an apartheid state? I've never seen a definite answer as some people will claim it was a extreme apartheid while others will claim that racial-equality was much better than other colonies and their mother-countries (or at least as good as you can get for the time period).
On top of this --a bit of a loaded question, I know, do you think that Rhodesia's downfall was one of the global community's biggest mishandlings?
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>>814199
>Was Rhodesia actually an apartheid state?
No.

Ever since that nutty American kid shot up that church now every pseudo-intellectual is out to claim Rhodesia was racist and evil though.
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It wasn't really. In fact it was probably less outright racist than the US during Jim Crow years.
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>>814199
While minority rule is "wrong" is the modern politically correct sense, the fact is the Rhodesian leadership was trying to create an educated native African middle class to help run the country. Because the alternative, overnight home rule, is what gets you countries like Zimbabwe.

Honestly it's a shame the rest of the world was too stupid or short-sighted to acknowledge this.

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Daily Orthobro thread. Get in here, fellow believers.
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>>813903
Please leave
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Whats the main differences between orthodox and catholic?
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>>814455
>Come to the Dark Side

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_the_First_Qin_Emperor

>The Chinese government is not ready to give the green light to open the tomb. The approval to excavate the tomb will not be given in the near future and probably not in the lifetime of today generation

Why can't the stupid chinks just open it already?

It's 2016, don't we already have all the necessary technology for something like this? And it's not like someone is going to die because they opened it, that guy's been dead for over 2200 years, plus he was a huge dick, so...
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>>812438
I'm sure one day we'll have the technology to achieve this...

That or Chinese ISIS will destroy it before we get the chance.
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>>812438
Wouldn't the shit inside only decay more?
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>>812438
i refuse to believe that they all have different facial features and height, every single one of them

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Why didn't the United States help out their French Republican brothers across the sea in their struggle against the European tyrants?

France alone was keeping the flames of liberty burning bright while besieged on all sides by despots, and the US just sort of sat back and watched (and even sided with the British over them once)

What the fuck?

What a bunch of useless assholes.
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>>812395
Because the government helped them out, yet they were still sympathetic to the cause of the revolutionaries

It would have been a real piss in the face to Louis if the people whom he accumulated debts helping out went and overthrew them


Also, the American revolution is closer to a mass, foreign-backed tax evasion than a struggle against tyranny
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Because the United States was fighting against Britain for independence on its own soil. It didn't want to overthrow king George in England--just kick him out of American land. France was choosing to antagonize other countries and invade them in order to overthrow their monarchies.

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1. America was a tiny ass country that had just gotten started and joining a war against the major powers of the day wasn't conducive to it survival

2. Adams and his party were far more favorable to relations with Britain, due to the cultural and linguistic links between the countries

3.>>812399

4. The American Republic was basically aristocratic, and land owner of standing and wealth were the only ones with real power. So they didn't want to support a movement that might inspire you're average American pleb to start lopping off heads

5. The aforementioned head lopping. Once the Terror was in full swing, Americans could not justify supporting such a violent movement.

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ITT: Post game ideas that revolve around your country/region's history

>American Civil War Action/Adventure game or RPG
>You start out as a young man in Sylvania in 1861
>Soon after the game starts, your impoverished family moves north to Atlanta to look for a better life, leaving you to take care of the farm
>The first months of the game (in-game time) are just first-person harvest moon with lighthearted sidequests to let the player get to know the town and people
>Come Spring 1862
>Mayor falls ill, gives you his horse to go to Savannah for medicine
>Arrive in Savannah in early April, just in time to watch the aftermath of the siege of Fort Pulaski
>Small segment of the game in which the player can free-roam around Savannah, Wilmington Island, Oatland Island, Skidaway Island, and Whitemarsh Island
(cont.)
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>After procuring the medicine, the player heads back to Sylvania where the mayor lets the player keep his horse as thanks
>Alternatively, the player can sneak onto Tybee Island and join the Union military, where he is then stationed in Boston and advances the storyline by participating in battles in the Eastern American South (the first of which will be the capture of New Orleans) until 1864, roaming the entire New England Countryside for side quests
>Get to see the snowy hills of Northern Appalachia
>Occasionally have to defend territory fronts from invading Sioux
>Taverns play comfy music like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsNiReoCsw
>If the player doesn't figure this out, there will be another chance to join the Union at a later date
>After saving the mayor, some Confederate soldiers come through town looking for conscripts
>Get on a train to Nawlins
>Lose battle, get captured
>Player can either escape with a Confederate soldier or stay with the Union and become a Union soldier, triggering the above Union storyline
>If Confederate, the player then gets to roam the western American South, with each state being at least 4 or 5 square km in-game, taking part in battles from Arizona to Louisiana
>Get to see the beautiful nature east of the Mississippi
>Taverns play comfy war songs for either side depending on location, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfHigPsC_s
>Get to see the western deserts
>Locations of previous battles don't restore - all battle marks and corpses remain and slowly are carted out or rot over the course of the game
>If the player doesn't want to do the FPS gameplay, they can always get a sword and fight the Union charges with a sabre
>Mix gunplay with martial arts and cannons
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>After the campaign has advanced to 1864, if in the Union, the player joins Sherman's army, and if Confederate, the player gets captured at Laredo Texas and is held at St. Louis PoW Camp
>If Union, player watches as his family's house is burnt by Sherman's troops, player can intervene and either save his family or get himself killed for treason
>If Confederate, player escapes just in time to return to the South and find Atlanta's smoking ruins
>Last third of the game takes place in Western American South (Kentucky down to Mississippi over to Virginia and Georgia) as the player takes on battles for whichever side of the war they chose, either watching their beloved country get destroyed or the fruits of their labor ripen, depending on whichever side they are.
>Player advances storyline by taking part in Civil War battles, but can just free-roam and sidequest too
>Get to see the beautiful nature of Appalachia
>Get to explore comfy cities like Savannah and Charleston
>Every time the player enters a tavern, comfy music like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSi6RyS4a0Q is playing
>Player can go explore the mountains, fight bears, or work on their old farmstead in their free time
>Game world in all areas is super densely packed with interesting things to see or do, with lore about the lives of people at the time scattered all over
>Campaign ends with the battle of Appatamox Courthouse
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>Player can choose where they want to live
>Small epliogue to the game in which the player gets to roam New England, the American South, the Wild West, or the Northwestern front and settle their new life, adding maybe 15 or 20 hours into the endgame
>A few more sidequests and a small epilogue storyline depending on where player chose to stay, with a Clint Eastwood-like dramatic action-adventure gunslinging ending for choosing the West, a town building game-like gameplay scheme for the northwest (where the player has to either eradicate or reconcile with natives), a depressing, harvest moon-like ending for the South, or a business management-type epilogue for the northeast wherein the main character tries to start a business
>After successfully completing the game, the entire game world opens up for exploration, but, unless some of the late-game sidequests weren't completed (as some sidequests will become unavailable after certain dates in-game) or some of the world's hidden secrets weren't found, there won't be much to do other than boring and vapid Minecraft-tier stuff
Think of it like The Legend of Zelda meets Battlefield meets Harvest Moon meets Morrowind

Anyways, that's my idea.
What are your historical game ideas, /his/?

Why isn't life/universe perfect?

Why do we experience the imperfect universe, the imperfect life? Why not a perfect life?
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Because we're a jumbled mass of atoms and chemical reactions trying to live in a universe full of things that could kill everything on our planet with the cosmic equivalent of a fart.
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>>818267
epic
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I don't understand. Why don't you think this is a perfect life?

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What was the name of this ship again?
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That's the Olympic
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>>817779
I think that's the "Gigantic".
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The Very Large

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Does mysticism belong here, or in /x/?
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>>817203
no idea, but you better post prophecies. This one from the 1600s

The Fifth Church Age started in 1520 and will end in 2038

"The fifth (Church age) period is one of affliction, desolation, humiliation and poverty for the (Catholic) Church. Jesus Christ will purify His people through cruel wars, famines, plagues, epidemics, and other horrible calamities. He will also afflict the Latin Church with many heresies. It is a period of defections, calamities, and exterminations. Those Christians who survive the sword, plague, and famines will be few on earth. Nations will fight against nations, and will be decimated by internecine (characterized by great slaughter) dissensions. Are we not to fear during this period that the Mohammedans will come again, working out their sinister schemes against the Latin Church?"2 "During the fifth period, we see only calamities and devastation, oppression of Catholics by tyrants and heretics, executions of kings, and conspiracies to set up republics"3 "A great lament will come over all mankind and only a small batch will survive the storm, the pestilence and horror."4

At the end of this fifth Church age, humanity will have no choice
but to go back to living directly off the land.

A remnant of people will be left on the earth at that time,
mostly from the Catholic Faith."
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>>817217
The Sixth Church Age will start in 2038; ending in about 345 years
Of the sixth Church age: "The Powerful Monarch, who will be sent by God, will uproot every republic. He will submit everything to his authority, and he will show great zeal for the true Church of Christ. The empire of the Mohammedans will be broken up, and this Monarch will reign in the East as well as in the West. All nations will come to worship God in the true Catholic and Roman faith. There will be many Saints and Doctors of the Church on earth. Peace will reign over the whole earth because God will bind Satan for a number of years until the days of the Son of Perdition. No one will be able to pervert the word of God since, during the sixth period, there will be an Ecumenical council which will be the greatest of all councils. By the grace of God, the power of the Great Monarch, the authority of the Holy pontiff, and the union of all the most devout princes, atheism and every heresy will be banished from the earth. The Council will define the true sense of Holy Scripture, and this will be believed and accepted by everyone." 5 "The Great Monarch of the world will create new laws for the new mankind and will cause a new age to begin, in which there will be only one flock and one Shepherd, and peace will be of long, long duration, for the glory of God in heaven and earth..."6
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>>817217
>>817225

Source?

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Europe owes its success to the ancient Greeks and Romans. The Rennaissance would not happened without the intellectual and architectural foundations left by these two civilizations. They would still be in a much worse dark ages were it not for the Greeks and Romans. Christianity is inherently anti-intellectual ism and set technological progress 1000 years back. Mars would have been colonized by now had the Roman Empire had not perished to these barbarians.
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>>817162
>le renaissance was good maymay
The period of scientific regression was not positive in any way.
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>>817162
Is this a meme thread?
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>>817162
What if there was a true technocracy that developed in Europe similar to Belka in Strangereal? They would need a current day population of at least 100 million to have an effective space industry though.

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How was shit like this ever considered acceptable by even a minority of people in the 20th century? Who looked at that and said it was "okay?" I can understand wanting a "subhuman" punished for a crime, even beaten severely. But this? What was going on in the minds (or culture) of some groups to where they didn't vomit at the mere thought of doing something this extreme. This is 13th century Mongol tier shit. I know /pol/ talks a mean game, but I have a hard time thinking that even they would actually go through with something like this to the full extent, if given the opportunity.
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>but I have a hard time thinking that even they would actually go through with something like this to the full extent, if given the opportunity.

I'll bet you they gladly would.
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OP here. Just to clarify mine is a confusion on the mindset of the people at this time and not the human capacity for violence or cruelty. I am under the impression that this was in Era in which these people unapologetically considered themselves not only the masterace, but the peak of human achievement. Ideologies like the White Man's Burden would have been prevalent, so my confusion stems from how some people could be proponents of such a thought process while at the same time finding no fault in acts of barbarism of this magnitude. You'd think they'd consider these kinds of acts beneath them.
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>>817034
>You'd think they'd consider these kinds of acts beneath them
What did you think was going to happen when you told a group of people that they were special-er than everybody else?

What are some times during history where it looked like the world was ending and civilization was going to collapse?
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right now
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The Migration Period.
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>>816828

25 year rule :^)

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You just have to look at hollywood, they are basically the biggest incidentally bisexual community out there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050819063131/http://www.geocities.com/mnussitch/gossip.html

So how come people are doubting me when I mention how Ceasar was a bisexual for example? Or how Hephaestion was the lover of Alexander the Great and best friend from his childhood?

I mean do they somehow think it's an insult or demeaning and for various reasons see these figures as more myth than actual real persons?
I have to say that I myself am at least bisexual and obviously don't see a problem with that. I think the christian morality of also including the dominant top of homosexual sex as sinful/shameful is still engrained with us.

Or you are just a bunch of teenagers who played crusader kings and Europa universalis and call each other gay.
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Satisfying your sexual pleasures by using another man isn't necessarily gay (still degenerate though).
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>>815256
Homosexuality and bisexuality didn't exist as identities in the ancient world. No-one considered themselves 'heterosexual' either.
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>>815273
I agree, I am just using these terms for convenience sake, not as an identity.
That's why I call myself bi, but probably would say gay if I'm with a guy or straight if I'm witha girl.

>>815267
just call it bi or whatever then

>not gay if it's dominant
I am fine with that interpretation :^)

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Why did USA entered WWI ?
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>>815157
because the germans were being obnoxious pricks.
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Krauts wouldn't stop killing American sailors, krauts tried getting spics to invade us (lel), krauts wouldn't buy our shit, in that order
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Jews forced the Japanese navy to attack the civilian liner Lusitania, thus propelling America to seal Germany's fate to set the stage for the second war in which the Jew was finally able to achieve the genocide that would allow them to fully control the West.

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Post (and discuss) funny things throughout time itself!
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>>815079
Wanna hear a joke ?
Yugoslavia.
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>>815701

here come the balkanlars
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>roman empire
>not republic

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Is absence of evidence, evidence of absence?
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No.
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>>814830
Then how do you disprove something like fairies? Wouldn't the whole argument be "theres no evidence"?
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>>814839
That's not entirely relevant to your earlier statement

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